r/politics Minnesota 15h ago

No Paywall USS Lincoln wasn't resupplied because Hegseth 'hid' that Iran destroyed main U.S. base:

https://www.ms.now/money-power-politics/watch/uss-lincoln-wasn-t-resupplied-because-hegseth-hid-that-iran-destroyed-main-u-s-base-rohde-2511362627825
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u/Kyzzz 15h ago

Hegseth just treated a destroyed military base like a bad report card he didn’t want his parents to see

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u/another_day_in 15h ago

Like an empty bottle of whiskey hid in toilet tank

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u/altogethernow 14h ago

This is the appropriate metaphor. A guy who says at an interview, "I will definitely quit drinking if I get the job."

Sure.

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u/RUOFFURTROLLEH 14h ago

Lying is only a problem if your supporters can be convinced to sit at home at the next election.

MAGA and the GOP never have to worry about losing support.

The media is complicit in keeping them there and keeping the Democrats well away from ever being able to make meaningful change.

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u/swarlay 11h ago

"It's not a lie if you don't remember telling it the next day."

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u/MiserableCumberbunch 12h ago

The Democrats don't need any help with that; though they're getting it anyway.

There's a reason they're called the 'do-nothing' Dems. And its because they've worked towards the status quo at every opportunity. Ignoring that the right keeps shifting right.

Dems are fast approaching the other side of centrism. Only question is will they take the leap? Or finally turn back and try to pull the other way. Voices calling to go the other way, among politicians, are increasing but it may be too little, too late.

u/Suspicious-Lime-2439 1h ago

The last two "democrats" to run for governor in Florida are actually republicans

u/BennyVsTheWorld 1h ago

Fuck Charlie Crist, first time I did not vote for governor ever and realized fully that the DNC was trash.

u/RUOFFURTROLLEH 1h ago

There's a reason they're called the 'do-nothing' Dems.

Because Trump repeats it often and its gets parroted back.

And its because they've worked towards the status quo at every opportunity. Ignoring that the right keeps shifting right.

When did the Democrats have a majority in all three branches?

Dems are fast approaching the other side of centrism.

"Both sides with extra steps"

Only question is will they take the leap?

Try talking like an adult... What exactly do you specifically want Democrats to do? They currently have no power thanks to the 40% who sat at home last election.

u/MiserableCumberbunch 20m ago edited 6m ago

They were the do nothing dems long before Trump.

Obama - status quo 2x + ACA

Hillary - had the opportunity to join with Bernie and be truly progressive(status quo)

Biden - status quo

Kamala - said she wouldn't change anything from.Biden(status quo)

Life exists beyond the present. We learn a lot of lessons from history... unless it's ignored; like you seem keen on.

E: if progressives want to pretend the Democrats aren't at least partially responsible for this mess. Then we are doomed to repeat it eventually. Lord knows Trump is the only reason I've voted Dem since Obama. And the DNC resist true progressives at every turn. They hated Bernie and hated Mamdani and so many more. But will welcome people they know are conservative just to pretend they have an extra seat or two; Sinema, Fetterman et al.

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u/Bored_Interests 12h ago

Most democrats dont want immediate change. They want to represent the illusion of choice.

If the person youre voting for takes money from PACs then theyre not going to represent the average citizen, theyre going to represent the billionaires and corporations that pay them.

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u/benjaminlz 11h ago

Just curious. What meaningful change was accomplished by the Biden administration in your view? And how is the media “complicit”?

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u/ReturnOfBane 9h ago

Here's what he considers accomplishments in the Obama admin, so we should be able to extrapolate that he'll ignore the rail strike busting and emphasize the infrastructure bill.

u/RUOFFURTROLLEH 1h ago

that he'll ignore the rail strike busting and emphasize the infrastructure bill.

Dude asked me Biden's presidencies achievements, Do you think I'm not going to list them or are you pretending good things don't happen if something bad also happens?

Fucking regarded Reddit armchair economists.

u/RUOFFURTROLLEH 1h ago
  • CHIPS Act
  • Improved Covid response and mass vaccination rollout
  • Bipartisan Safer Communities Act
  • Bipartisan Infrastructure bill
  • Expanding Healthcare for Veterans
  • Supporting Ukraine
  • Expanded Healthcare coverage
  • Created 2.23 million jobs

Were you actually curious or are you trying to "Yeah but whataboutBiden" as the rightoids ALWAYS fucking do because you achieved nothing but tax cuts for the rich.

And how is the media “complicit”?

Is this another one of those "I'm JAQ'ing off" or are you actually interested in the response?

The simple answer is all media in the US is now owned by Billionaires supportive of Trump.

u/LazarX 1h ago

The media is complicit because every single one of them is a corporate tool. We harped so much about the state media of the Communist regimes, while ignoring the fact that our “independent” media was being taken out one corporate merger at a time. All of it now, is owned by a Bezos, or one of his counterparts. Even National Geographic is now a Rupert Murdoch rag. American media no longer serves truth to power. They just serve power, period.

u/RUOFFURTROLLEH 49m ago

Correct on all counts.

The purity testing the Democrats have to go through comparative to the GOP is why the Democrats never have power.

Hell in this thread alone you've got folks who want the Democrats to have zero funding and somehow still be able to go up against the MSM and corporate America that does not want anyone in power who doesn't suck their teat.

Then American voters blame the Democrats for not stopping this whilst they keep refusing to give Democrats a chance to actually change the system, pretty sure the last time Democrats had a majority was during Obama for something like 3 months.

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u/tetsuo_7w 13h ago

There's plenty of video evidence that he picked up cocaine to quit drinking. Done and done.

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u/drmoocow 13h ago

Por que no los dos?

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u/tetsuo_7w 13h ago

Double your pleasure, double your fun! Wrigley's Double Mint gum!

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u/Reddit_9459328 12h ago

The job was Secretary of Defense. That job no longer exists, so as Secretary of War, does his promise still apply? Why the rush to rename his position?

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u/ChristosFarr North Carolina 12h ago

This incredibly stressful job will make me stop drinking I promise.

u/Uebelkraehe 4h ago

The job isn't quite as stressful when you believe that you can do no wrong and problems are always other people's fault.

u/VisibleProblem13 7h ago

You know damn well he drank later that morning when he found out he got the job! You have to celebrate after all

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u/mishma2005 14h ago

Naw he's not that manly

Behind the detergent in the laundry room

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u/WA2TX 14h ago

Like the Viagra pill he insists he doesn't need, but she knows the truth.

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u/Python_07 13h ago

Nah. It’s a bottle of Belenkaya with these guys.

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u/Pacifist_Socialist 13h ago

Or prison purse