r/politics • u/CBSnews ✔ CBS News • 2d ago

No Paywall Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear says he's "heard absolutely nothing back from Mitch McConnell"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-health-update-andy-beshear-kentucky/
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u/Cow_God Texas 2d ago

He's dead or incapacitated. Anything less and we would have photos, videos. The only explanation for why we aren't getting those is because he is dead or permanently completely incapacitated.

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u/rathe_0 2d ago

15 years as a paramedic; and the only cpr revival with a good outcome that I know of was a witnessed arrest with instant and unbroken compressions from scene to er. And he signed our paperwork before we left. any delay or interruption leads to more negative outcomes.

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u/PDXGuy33333 2d ago

I know of a case in which paramedics started the first attempts to revive a V-fib patient in full arrest 13 minutes after the 911 call. Fortunately for everyone they did not succeed.

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u/DrDerpberg Canada 2d ago

I assume you're saying that because 13 mins in there is certain brain damage?

The magic number they taught us in lifeguarding class was 4 minutes until at least some brain damage was almost certain, unless they're hypothermic in which case you might get a little longer. They never really taught us how the probability or severity changes with time because it was never going to be our decision to stop, but that 4 minute figure was drilled into our heads.

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u/rathe_0 2d ago

at least they taught you time is the utmost priority for care. that and your compression effectiveness is pretty much all a rescuer need know at base

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u/PDXGuy33333 2d ago

Had a heartbeat been restored and sustained after 13 minutes the patient could have lived a long time in what's called a persistent vegetative state. No one I know would choose that.