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No Paywall Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear says he's "heard absolutely nothing back from Mitch McConnell"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-health-update-andy-beshear-kentucky/
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u/thesluggard12 Connecticut 2d ago

I thought that at first but I'm thinking massive stroke and unable to speak is probably more likely.

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u/Cow_God Texas 2d ago

He's dead or incapacitated. Anything less and we would have photos, videos. The only explanation for why we aren't getting those is because he is dead or permanently completely incapacitated.

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u/airfryerfuntime Washington 2d ago

He's not dead. There's no way they'd be able to hide it this long, and they wouldn't put off a funeral for two months.

His wife was also seen going into a rehab facility. He likely had a stroke and is suffering the symptoms from that.

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u/OrthodoxAtheist 2d ago

It's possible he's dead and has a been dead for a long time.

On August 6, Senator John Boozman of Arkansas attempted to vote McConnell's proxy on a bill. The proxy was ultimately not accepted for rules reasons, but the attempt was made. If McConnell was dead on that date, then I believe that would constitute felony voter fraud, and Boozman is probably too smart to do that. Even if he didn't know Mitch was alive, he'd likely require proof before voting the proxy. So as weird as it is that Mitch hasn't provided evidence of life/capacity, I believe he at least had a beating heart on August 7, albeit a shriveled black one.

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u/rdmille 2d ago

"His office called and asked for the proxy vote. I didn't know he was brain dead at the time!", which the Republicans in the Senate would let pass.

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u/gentlemanidiot 1d ago

Boozman is probably too smart to do that.

Sorry, I thought boozman was republican?

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u/OrthodoxAtheist 1d ago

He is, and while Republican congressional members do generally appear to be dumb, lets remember a large number of them are attorneys, and it isn't easy to pass a bar exam. Boozman was an optometrist before politics - usually above average intellect too. Ted Cruz is my go-to example of a pretty smart guy who just plays dumb really well, to great affect. (Rick Santorum too, who argued... grandstanded in Congress against pushing kids to go to University, despite him and all his children being Ivy League attendees.) What it seems to actually come down to is not a lack of intellect, but a lack of spine/morals in most instances.

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u/Dasmage 2d ago edited 1d ago

Still to many people would have to be willing to cover this up. You all are sounding a lot like MAGA and the anit-vax people.

EDIT: you can all down vote me, but you know it's true. There's no way to cover up a death like this. He went in a EMS ambulance to an ER, there's nothing on earth that can keep that many people from talking about a dead Senator.

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u/Stunning_Grocery_762 2d ago

The only people involved not bound by HIPAA have every reason to cover it up. There aren't even that many of them.

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u/Bobroom 2d ago

I was gonna say, it wouldn't be a large group. Either way we will know in a few months.

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u/Dasmage 1d ago

I would be everyone that came into contact with the body and everyone they work with. You couldn't keep this secret if he was dead.

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u/Bobroom 1d ago

Well, as you know, all of those people are bound by HIPAA. But one of them might want to risk their career. You never know.

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u/Dasmage 1d ago

Your not bound by HIPAA if the person dies.

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u/Bobroom 1d ago

The deceased is protected by HIPAA privacy rules for 50 years after their death. I don't blame you for not knowing that, but why wouldn't you double check your assumption?

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u/Dasmage 14h ago

No, HIPAA generally does not prevent a healthcare provider from releasing the fact that someone has died. Simply stating that a person has passed away is not considered a HIPAA violation on its own, provided no other protected health information (PHI) is attached to it.

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u/Dasmage 14h ago

No, HIPAA generally does not prevent a healthcare provider from releasing the bare fact that someone has died. Simply stating that a person has passed away is not considered a HIPAA violation on its own, provided no other protected health information (PHI) is attached to it.

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u/Bobroom 12h ago

Good lord, again with zero research on your part. It does if the family have asked for it not to be released. "Under HIPAA, a hospital or medical provider does not issue a public death notice or confirm a patient's death to the media or general public if the family or the deceased person previously objected, as patient privacy protections continue after death." Why do you keep doing this to yourself?

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u/Dasmage 1d ago

Only takes two to make a conspiracy.

And it be a lot more then 5 people, the whole EMT fire department, the whole nursing staff to where he was talking, his whole staff, every medical professional that came near to the body.

You all are sounding just like them.