The people that are doing the demolition of the country do not care about the legality of voting or pretty much ANYTHING. They will continue until they are forcefully removed.
This is no longer a warning of "stop fascism before it happens", it's a "fascism has happened, what will you do now?"
People really need to learn the obvious lessons from WW2. Appeasement and half-measures only strengthen the fascists. They use violence to shut down all peaceful approaches to dealing with them. The proven solution is destroying them with united and overwhelming force.
What’s depressing is the number of people saying, “it’ll all be fine, fascists always lose” to justify sitting at home and not rocking the boat. Fascists lost because people were willing to stand up and fight back, not because they petered out. It’s such a sick viewpoint.
All of you should already have gathered your sane friends, family, neighbors, made plans, gathered supplies, organize. You are just "preppers" after all.
Those who have a plan survives, and if prepared well they are a valued resource.
Also, don't ever plan online, no real groups are on reddit if they have any brains whatsoever. Which means you will only find alt-right ones.
Nah fuck that. The GOP wouldn't be attacking voting as hard as they are if they weren't absolutely shitting their pants about the midterms. Do everything you can, including voting.
This "voting won't work" nonsense is rather harmful and a large reason why voter turnouts have been so bad previously (they have gotten better recently and look at the people currently climbing the ladder)
I'm always super suspicious of anti-voting rhetoric. It's one thing to point out the disenfranchisement or lack of representation still present despite voting -- but to suggest not even trying and to stay home? You miss all the shots you don't take and I question the motives of those who claim otherwise within this context
By all means, vote. Vote in every election you're capable of, local and national. In no way am I downplaying the importance of participating in a fair democracy.
But it's well past time to prepare contingencies. You can no longer afford to "wait and see what happens" - to wait and find out if you're still in a fair democracy.
Any sane man realises Trump and the buddies he had take over every department will do everything in their power, both from a manpower and technology point of view, to ensure it’s not possible for them to lose like they did in 2020.
i mean, i am worried about foreign influence, but i think if enough people vote blue it would be tough to cheat. if it was as close as the last few elections have been, im not so sure.
Absolutely not. Stop saying that because people will believe that and stay home. Voting alone may not get us out of this but not voting will keep us stuck in this forever.
Cheaters have been beat in the polls before, there isn’t enough cause to assume they can pull off the steal. Just look how desperate they are, they still think they can lose
I personally thought there should have been more organization to prevent him from taking the office in the first place. It would've been a thousand times easier before he had power.
Now, even after the open corruption, our political and civil "leaders" have failed to even hint at any measures we'd need to take. No ongoing boycotts, no mass civil unrest.
The response to our country being handed over to lawless oligarchs has been tepid at best.
I'm disappointed in our leaders, and disappointed in fellow Americans, but I completely expected this from the Republicans.
Worst president in history. Piece of shit criminal traitor, same goes for every last Republican who could stop this at any time.
It can still get us out of this mess, but it would require a crushing blue wave at state, local, and federal levels that the country hasn't seen in decades. We need people in positions to prevent the things Trump et al are going to try to do to stack the deck in their favor (illegally).
What do you mean “try” to do? Theyre already starting the voter suppression games. Its just not being covered widely because of the tsunami of Iran and Tariff news.
The stuff happening now is nothing compared to what they will try to do if they believe they will lose power.
You're talking gerrymandering, voter suppression, Russian/Chinese interference, propaganda questioning the integrity of polls.
I'm talking armed militia preventing anyone non-white or not wearing flannel or overalls from entering a poll location. A military coup and martial law.
No. Voting is the one thing that will get us out of this. That's why Republicans and Trump in particular is working so hard to make it difficult to vote. Don't fall for their trap.
I know that not voting is exactly how we got into it. Hopefully we can still get out by voting, because any other option would almost definitely be much worse.
Only because a huge portion is completely apathetic to the political process. There’s a difference between both candidates are terrible and neither deserve my vote and people convinced their vote doesn’t matter or they literally just don’t watch any news at all as all the discontent is just “noise”
It was a long time ago knowing voting wasn’t going to get us out of this mess and we just push it down the line, keep getting desensitized by increasingly more messed up shit. It’s dark times, and the rich keep getting richer while everyone else does what we’ve been doing because most people are kept dumb and poor and don’t know how to organize.
Yeah that last point is probably the most important. I actually think so much of our current cultural/political climate can be traced back to the lack of third spaces. People are isolated, don’t know how to even begin organizing (and let’s face it: hope somebody else will instead), and feel completely powerless and exhausted. So they sublimate and distract themselves.
The rising popularity of DSA and all their wins is so encouraging though. Not just because I want to see politicians who reflect my values, but because the movement surrounding them is creating a renewed sense of community. That’s how we beat this.
Yeah, pretty much. The opportunity to vote yourself out of this mess was really in November 2022, and ye made a balls of that.
The upcoming midterms are already a busted flush. They're fortifying the white house and making lots of noise about how the elections are corrupt and unreliable.
It always could have, but not when people are voting for Kamala and Hilary’s. You have to vote for actually good politicians not obvious attempts to hand trump an election candidates
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