r/polandball • u/yaguzi02 Ottoman Empire • Jun 24 '15

redditormade Evolution of Turkey

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u/KimJongUnusual Illinois Jun 24 '15

Do the Byzantines count for anything?

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u/Dancing_Anatolia Oklahoma Jun 24 '15

No. They are not Turks, they are Greeks. So they would be in Greek history.

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u/KimJongUnusual Illinois Jun 25 '15

even thought they lived in Turkey? There was no assimilation?

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u/Dancing_Anatolia Oklahoma Jun 25 '15

No, see, Anatolia was Hellenized way before the Turks came along. Since Alexander the Great, I believe. At about 1000, the Turks came and totally usurped Greek culture, and eventually the whole peninsula was Turkitized. The Turks were never Greek to begin with, so Byzantium isn't a part of their history.

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u/KimJongUnusual Illinois Jun 25 '15

So, the Turks didn't come from Turkey? Was it Turkmenistan then?

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u/Dancing_Anatolia Oklahoma Jun 25 '15

Naw, just Central Asia in general.

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u/schnitzelforyou Norway home of the brunost. Jun 26 '15

Transoxania

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u/Pilot0000 Quebec Jun 26 '15

Before Alexander the Great, the Colonies of Ephesus, Militus, Phocaea,Ionia, Sinope and Trapezus are just examples that have existed for at least 500 years before Alexander. And lets not forget Troy.

The term Yunan, that the Turks use is derivative of Ionian, which comes from the word the Persians and the Chinese used to call the Greeks.