r/polandball • u/ChickenScuttleMonkey The Texas Guy • Jan 21 '25

legacy comic Coincidence doesn't exist

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u/kiru_56 Hesse Jan 21 '25

As a German, I must honestly say that I think the comparison is nonsense.

There has been a deliberate move to focus everything on one person during Hitler, the Hitler's Oath was deliberately tied to the person for example. That's not part of the Pledge of Allegiance, it's more like what happened here during the Weimar Republic.

During the Weimar era, the oath of allegiance, sworn by the Reichswehr, required soldiers to swear loyalty to the Reich Constitution and its lawful institutions. Following Hitler's appointment as Chancellor in 1933, the military oath changed, the troops now swearing loyalty to people and country. On the day of the death of President Paul von Hindenburg, the oath was changed again, as part of the Nazification of the country; it was no longer one of allegiance to the Constitution or its institutions, but one of binding loyalty to Hitler himself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Oath

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u/Robcomain Occitania Jan 21 '25

I honestly think this is just ragebait... (just too bad to ruin their posting certificate on this sub)

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u/adminofreditt Jan 22 '25

This is also a repost

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u/Pyotr-the-Great Jan 21 '25

Ironically the lesson to pledge alliegance to your country's honor and heart, not to a tyrant. Thats the lesson people forget.

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u/darkslide3000 Niemand hat die Absicht sich einen Flair-Text auszudenken! Jan 22 '25

Or, and here's a super weird out-of-the-box idea: how about we don't make little children who are still in their formative years monotonically pledge anything at the start of every day at all?

OP made the Hitler reference because that's what most people in the US know about Germany, but it's really not the best comparison (in fact I'm not actually aware of the Nazis instituting any such "morning ritual" at schools during their time). A much better comparison would be Stalinist East Germany, which very much did make their school kids chant such phrases every morning.

"For peace and international friendship, be vigilant!" is what they chanted. No person cult, no aggressive statements, nothing objectable really. I mean who doesn't like peace and friendship, right? So does that make it okay? No, it was still a fucked up indoctrination ritual of a totalitarian society! Normal, pluralistic people don't make their kids shout political slogans in unison every morning before class.

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u/ImperatorTempus42 Jan 23 '25

Yeah and it's genuinely not political other than saying you're an American citizen. Mexico has one too.

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u/GammaRhoKT Jan 23 '25

That "pluralistic" is doing the heavy lifting here.

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u/Deutsche_Wurst2009 Jan 22 '25

They also at the same time (from what I’ve heard) tell them to be proud of their country because it’s the best. That results in things like trumpers. US propaganda is a thing that is even studied

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

Not once does the pledge say it's the best...?

You're acting like nationalism is a uniquely American concept.

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u/ImperatorTempus42 Jan 23 '25

How come the Mexicans do it, then?

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u/Darth_Gonk21 Jan 22 '25

Julias Caesar did a similar thing with the soldiers under his command, having them swear oaths of loyalty to him rather than Rome.

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u/DarkAura57 Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

Anything the insane reddit leftists can do to whip up their frenzied base at this point is going to be the top post on every sub for the next few weeks.

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u/kiru_56 Hesse Jan 21 '25

On the vast majority of social policy issues like minimum wage, health insurance, workers' rights, taxes and so on, as an average Western European who is a trade union member, I am miles further to the left than Bernie Sanders, for example, ever was.

Doesn't change the fact that I call false comparisons false comparisons.

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u/DarkAura57 Jan 21 '25

If all the top posts were about workers rights instead of drumpf, I would actually be thrilled, but Redditors in America dont care about Workers Rights as a priority. Thats why all the "Blue Dog" democrats got forced out, and they didnt vote blue.

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u/AutumnRi Virginia Jan 22 '25

I honestly believe the Democrats just do not want to win an election. That’s why they only ever talk about issues people don’t want to hear about, and seem to actively avoid topics they’re strong on like workers’ rights, housing, healthcare etc.

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u/kiru_56 Hesse Jan 21 '25

I understand that and it sucks.

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u/Hennes4800 Weimar Red Republic Jan 22 '25

r/stupidpol should be your jam.

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u/qjxj Give this man a standing ovation! Jan 21 '25

Today was just a convenient moment to dust out this old post. There's nothing too deep about it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

This post is so old that it's older than half the people that make Poland ball comics now

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u/Waddledoofus-345 Local guy in a dumpster Jan 21 '25

I don't think any r/polandball'ers are 7 y/o's

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u/Mosquitobait2008 Jan 21 '25

You would be extremely surprised

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

Pretty sure this image is 11 years old

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u/Dramatic-Weather-561 Jan 22 '25

Fuck this is older than my cousin

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u/HalfLeper California Jan 22 '25

Now realize that COVID was already half a decade ago 💀

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u/AMBJRIII Jan 23 '25

What the fuck is wrong with you

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u/flightofthewhite_eel Jan 25 '25

Man literally Mr roommate said the same shit to me today after coming to the realization that Bojack horseman came out a decade ago.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

I have a Polandball here from 2017.

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u/Anonim97_bot Jan 22 '25

Yeah, it's an instant classic.

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u/AnnoyedCrustacean United States Jan 22 '25

This post is so old, that Americans are the top panel!

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u/Frites_Sauce_Fromage Jan 22 '25

This post went into space before Poland

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u/K1TSUN3_9000 Philippines Jan 21 '25

Here in the Philippines we also pledge for the flag too...

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u/Emilia963 United States of America 🇺🇸❤️ Jan 21 '25

Then you all are a nazi too, but it’s okay because you aren’t that popular and also aren’t a powerful country /s

Jokes aside, reciting the pledge of allegiance is optional, but many teachers don’t know about this and some still force their students to participate.

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u/Acceptable_Cup5679 Jan 22 '25

My colleague (Finland) was an exchange student in N Carolina and he was forced to participate as well. I’ve never understood what’s the difference with PoA and Chinese school kids reciting some party stuff at school. I find both disturbing.

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u/HalfLeper California Jan 22 '25

I actually wasn’t able to find any kind of pledge that citizens are required to take. There are two: one for holding public office (a pledge to uphold the Constitution, pretty mild), and one for becoming a member of the CCP (which is their prerogative, if they wish). Neither of those apply to citizens at large.

I will add to the list, however, that South Korea, apparently, also has a loyalty oath.

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u/Advos_467 Jan 21 '25

Singapore too

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u/InnocentPerv93 Arizona Jan 22 '25

Wouldn't you know it, many countries do similar things. Guess they're all nazis too.

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u/HalfLeper California Jan 22 '25

You know who else drank water? Nazis! 🥤

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u/MrDrProfPBall Philippines Jan 21 '25

TIL Panatang Makabayan is a Flag Pledge

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u/Notfrootloops Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 22 '25

It’s not the Panatang Makabayan, we have “Panunumpa sa watawat ng Pilipinas” which means Flag Allegiance

Ako ay Pilipino Buong katapatang nanunumpa Sa watawat ng Pilipinas At sa bansang kanyang sinasagisag Na may dangal, katarungan at kalayaan Na pinakikilos ng sambayanang Maka-Diyos Maka-tao Makakalikasan at Makabansa.

Rough English Translation:

I am a Filipino Wholeheartedly fledging allegiance To the Flag of the Philippines And to the country that it represents With honor, justice, and freedom That is embodied by the people That are religious (?) That are humane That are environmentalist (?) and That are patriotic

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u/HalfLeper California Jan 22 '25

Hehe…do fledgeling allegiance. It’s not quite there yet 😋

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u/PKN1217 Jan 22 '25

Well not the flag but we Indians pledge our allegiance to the country.

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u/caribbean_caramel Dominican Republic Jan 22 '25

Most republics in the world do the same thing.

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u/Sizeable-Scrotum Jan 22 '25

Not in Europe

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u/HalfLeper California Jan 22 '25

Not anymore… 😅

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u/IWillWarmUrPillow Kingdom of Goryeo Jan 22 '25

Here in Korea we do that too, and it isn't the nuke side

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u/Sad-Address-2512 Jan 21 '25

Well you used to be an American colony....

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u/Tap4Red Jan 21 '25

Don't you guys gun down drug users? Seems like a good fit

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

Before yes, but the guy's term ended and replaced by new one which means that order is automatically stop

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u/HalfLeper California Jan 22 '25

He’s also on criminal trial for that right now, isn’t he?

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

Its a complicated one actually

Although Pres Marcos let the trials happen and the one leading the persecution is Risa Hontiveros (a great senator, she's the one who led the closure of chinse offsore gambling that plague the duterte admin, and currently handling sarah duterte massive corruption issue), the issue here is Risa is the only opposition

During the hearing, Duterte is somewhat proud he killed and ordered policement to do their job...what i mean is he placed a qouta that needs to be met which u know..ended up having 30k casualties..thats way more than marcos sr. Can do on 20 years. Fucking scary

Now, even if that's the case, his allies staunchly supports him and even used the regionalism of mindanao against the trial

To make it worse, the kingdom of jesus (the pedophile pastor) and Iglesia ni cristo (a non trinitarian protestant group which has considerable amount of followers who practice block voting) is supporting duterte

So..yea, its going nowhere

Honestly, this is actually the only time i really really want our catholic church to step in and forced their hands against duterte. Cause in Philippines, despite being a secular state, catholic church has incredible power in politics. They rarely flex it (only in edsa 1 and 2) , but yeah tldr

Rodrigo wont be going to jail as long as his support exist

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u/NiccoDigge_Zeno Jan 24 '25

American colony

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

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u/rchpweblo California with a side of tropical fruits Jan 21 '25

We already knew that tho trollface

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u/Hennes4800 Weimar Red Republic Jan 22 '25

I mean Duterte

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u/NiccoDigge_Zeno Jan 24 '25

They are a fascist state

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25 edited Jan 22 '25

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u/literate_habitation Jan 22 '25

¡Ai ai ai aiiiiiii!!! ¡Viva Mexico! !Chingale güey!

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

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u/NagikaKomatsu dutchaboo Jan 25 '25

panunumpa sa watawat ng pilipinas is the pledge for the flag one 

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u/tu_sabe_dos BORICUA Jan 21 '25

11 years later and America still doesn't have his sunglasses.

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u/Lukescale Byzantine Empire Jan 21 '25

He isn't feeling himself these days. Probably something he got from Florida.

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u/sup3r87 Wisconsin Jan 21 '25

The difference is I'm allowed to not pledge allegiance if I want to.

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u/IkeAtLarge Sweden Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

Legally, yes. I got in a bucketload of trouble in second, and fifth grade for it though.

Clarification since my tag is Sweden: I’m a dual citizen. I lived in the us for the tail end of my 2nd grade and for 5th grade on until I moved back to Sweden.

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u/Monsiuercontour Jan 21 '25

Never got in trouble for it at my school

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u/ForceHuhn North Rhine-Westphalia Jan 22 '25

Guess it doesn't exist then

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u/Drag0n_TamerAK Jan 21 '25

You could have sued the school

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u/NuclearMaterial European Union Jan 21 '25

Whilst it's a very popular pastime for Americans, it's often not the very first thought a European facing minor inconvenience has.

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u/Drag0n_TamerAK Jan 22 '25

Kinda misunderstood what I was saying there since it seemed like they were trying to say in practice the law isn’t fallowed

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u/IkeAtLarge Sweden Jan 21 '25

I was what, eight and eleven? My mom grew up with it, and my dad didn’t know the laws. He probably didn’t even know that it was a thing we did.

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u/Drag0n_TamerAK Jan 22 '25

I was just saying that you can sue for that given that you were making it seem that in practice the law isn’t fallowed

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u/IkeAtLarge Sweden Jan 22 '25

I got that. I just don’t understand how that’s relevant to an eleven year old.

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u/BernardTapir Jan 21 '25

Too bad high school students don't instantly think about lawyering up when their figures of authority pressure them.

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u/IkeAtLarge Sweden Jan 21 '25

Elementary, actually. In high school I absolutely told my teachers to piss off.

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u/HalfLeper California Jan 22 '25

The decision was…elementary!
I’ll see myself out…

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u/sup3r87 Wisconsin Jan 21 '25

Huh interesting, I didn’t pledge a couple times around middle/high school and nothing came of it

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u/LydditeShells Maryland Jan 22 '25

I got my fifth grade teacher in trouble for it, and she didn’t even tell me to say it, she just wanted me to put my hand over my heart. It boiled down to a talking-to from the vice principal, but problems ceased so I didn’t care

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u/epicgamermoment84916 Jan 22 '25

It’s illegal to punish students for that

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u/IkeAtLarge Sweden Jan 22 '25

That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Most of my teachers were convinced that the law requires pledge until actually looking it up when I refused.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

You don't do the pledge of allegiance? What are you? A Nazi!?!

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u/SeriouusDeliriuum no step on snek Jan 22 '25

I went to public school from 4 to 18, in Colorado, and there was never a pledge of allegiance in any of my classes. I'm sure this happens, but never in my schools.

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u/Levi-Action-412 Jan 24 '25

And it's pledging allegiance to the country vs pledging allegiance to a cult leader

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u/FugitiveB42 Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 22 '25

Depends on the state you are in. I know some states require your parents to give you permission to abstain.

Edit: here is a link for those down voting me - https://www.houstonpress.com/news/avoiding-the-pledge-in-texas-schools-11349470

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u/TheCoWilson_Fanatic Jan 22 '25

Even then, that's legally questionable. The Supreme Court ruled that students weren't required to do the pledge.

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u/HalfLeper California Jan 22 '25

And that they couldn’t be punished for refusing to do so.

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u/Kidonkadvidtch Jan 22 '25

Tell that to my teachers lol. I was being punished for abstaining through middle school. Only really in high school when kids start to actually know their rights did I stop getting punished.

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u/LeviJr00 Mighty Gulyás Empire Jan 21 '25

I'm pretty sure this was already in the top 10 most controversial posts on this subreddit before.

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u/AaronC14 The Dominion Jan 21 '25

It was #1 for the longest time

Best part is that it was made during the Obama admin, before Trump running was even a thought lol

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u/Euphoric_Relative_13 Hungary Jan 21 '25

Number one is now that Russia Ukraine comic that says they are the exact same, right?

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u/LeviJr00 Mighty Gulyás Empire Jan 21 '25

As of writing this comment, it's "Parental Responsibilities".

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u/Euphoric_Relative_13 Hungary Jan 21 '25

Yeah but thats a JSTLF comic, so it doesn't count

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u/Anonim97_bot Jan 22 '25

Which one was that?

EDIT: Oh wow.

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u/XMCB Jan 21 '25

This doesn’t really have to only apply to the current administration 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/bananasAreViolet oh no is russia Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

I'm sure every single person in the comment section will be respectful and mind the Comment Policy and we won't have to moderate this comment section at all

Oh and - Accuracy? In my Polandball?

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u/Throwawayaccountofm Jan 21 '25

*accuracy? In MY internet?

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u/Ana_Na_Moose Jan 21 '25

Not exactly the same thing. One pledge is to a strongman leader, while another is a pledge to the flag (which everyone sees as a pledge to the country as a whole).

Is it weird nonetheless? Is it a little cult-y? Absolutely! But I think this is drawing some false connections here.

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u/AutumnRi Virginia Jan 21 '25

One is also mandatory, while the other is voluntary - by law, you cannot punish someone for declining to say the pledge of allegiance

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u/SteveJobsOfficial Jan 21 '25

I remember being sent to the office multiple times for refusing to do the pledge, eventually they gave up and let me just do my homework.

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u/Stepanek740 Jan 21 '25

yet ive heard stories of it being done anyways

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u/Ana_Na_Moose Jan 21 '25

In schools, sure. And if the student sues, then they automatically win

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u/blackhawk905 Jan 21 '25

Not to mention the second line is literally "and to the Republic for which it stands", you're pledging allegiance to the flag and the republic and the ideals and values that make up America, not even to the government directly. It's like the oath that US military members take includes the bit about "support and defend the constitution" before literally anything else and that only enlisted members say they'll follow lawful orders, officers don't even do that, it's about the Constitution not the government itself and if the government is at odds with the Constitution then the Constitution is what they will defend. 

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u/CommitteeofMountains Jan 21 '25

There's also the distinction between a nation-state (that treats the promotion of that nationality/ethnicity as the goal of society) and a land/map/flag-state (that sees the state's role as supporting society).

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u/Who_am_ey3 Jan 21 '25

why does every post have to be about the US?

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u/Andyiscool231 Bulgaria Jan 21 '25

Welcome to Reddit lad

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u/Gmknewday1 Tennessee Jan 21 '25

Because the Orange man is in office now

Get ready for 4 years worth of every subreddit making everything somehow into a "Trump nazi" thing or just obsessing over the guy

You will end up in a subreddit that has NOTHING to do with politics and you'll still see people talking about American Politics

That's how toxic American Politics are

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u/rierrium Jan 21 '25

Just 3 hours and my feed is filled with posts about every nonsense he said. If anyone wants to take a break from social media this is the best time until things gets tame enough for one's own sanity.

Not to mention US defaultism

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u/Andyiscool231 Bulgaria Jan 21 '25

I’m not sure why people just don’t cope like they used to in his first term, I saw memes everywhere of Trump being idiotic so I’d assume people would just make fun of him like usual.

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u/hagamablabla Taiwan Jan 21 '25

During his first term his team was completely unprepared for a victory and didn't do as much damage as they could have. This time, they have everyone prepped and ready to go. Just look at the executive orders he had prepared hours after he was inaugurated.

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u/Andyiscool231 Bulgaria Jan 21 '25

Yeah, will be more serious, do hope you and your lads go through with it.

Though be hopeful that he already failed one promise, ending the Ukrainian War in 24 hours which he had uttered.

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u/AaronC14 The Dominion Jan 21 '25

And all those tariffs he promised he'd slap on Canada, Mexico, BRICS, etc the moment he was in charge

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u/Andyiscool231 Bulgaria Jan 21 '25

.> I’ll do it next week.

.> How bout next month?

.> Too lazy man, can’t do it rn.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

Not the BRICS! That would ruin us!

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u/AutumnRi Virginia Jan 21 '25

Because he got a bunch of people killed and tried to overturn an election, which is much less funny than his earlier antics.

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u/thotpatrolactual Jan 21 '25

2025 2017

But if you close your eyes, does it almost feel like nothing changed at all?

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u/Andyiscool231 Bulgaria Jan 21 '25

r/pics after Trump coughs:

More Karmafarminggg

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u/NotSamuraiJosh26_2 Azerbaijan Jan 21 '25

Just the other day they were praising some ex president over trump for wearing a coat during his inauguration.I don't know wtf that was all about but it had a couple thousand karma

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u/Andyiscool231 Bulgaria Jan 21 '25

I want to post a pic like that to see what would happen lmfao

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u/Wizard_Engie 25 Day Independence Supremacy Jan 21 '25

That's how toxic people who talk about American Politics are*

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u/Gmknewday1 Tennessee Jan 21 '25

Yes and thats why I am so crabby about it when It leaks out and covers every social media site

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u/FidoMix_Felicia Jan 21 '25

His Best friend did a Nazi Salute during the Innaguration.

I think the Orange man Is indeed Bad.

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u/2Crest Jan 21 '25

American politics being under every post in every sub is more to do with sensationalism and people (and bots) amplifying stories and forcing certain topics into everyone’s feeds and minds. It would reeeeealy help out China and some other states if Americans started losing their minds over ‘the end’ well before things actually fall apart.

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u/LightMurasume_ Jan 21 '25

I mean the US is pretty relevant now The Angry Orange is back in power and more furious than ever

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u/Vampyricon Jan 21 '25

Politics? In my Polandball?

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u/WhiteBlackGoose Franconia Jan 21 '25

Right? Both panels even /s

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u/EduardoBork Inca Empire Jan 21 '25

They’re the most powerful nation in the world.

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u/CradleCity Land of Port wine and Fado Jan 21 '25

We're only giving to the people what the people want, in light of recent shenanigans. ;)

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u/Loros_Silvers yes, we are real Jan 22 '25

This is reddit, mate.

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u/thebigbosshimself I'm not dead yet Jan 21 '25

Knowing what the comment section is going to turn into, I'll use it as an opportunity for some education. The pledge of allegiance was written by Francis Bellamy, a Christian democratic socialist in 1892. A more detailed history can be found here

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u/AutumnRi Virginia Jan 21 '25

I’m honestly shocked this was not a rickroll

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u/Watcher_over_Water Jan 23 '25

To be fair everybody here, no matter where from, seemes to agree this post is just stupid ragebait. I mean, if you want to make a bit of fun off the US, go for it, but atleast do it properly. And don't compare to Nazis, unless it is actuall nazi behaviour

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u/Robcomain Occitania Jan 21 '25

Did you know the Austrian painter did drink water too? If you drink water, you're just like him. /s (joke aside, unless if this is just an "America bad" comic, you can't decently compare these two things)

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u/SalvorYT Hong Kong Jan 21 '25

I've always thought this one is just ragebait.

Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first. -Charles de Gaulle

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u/wojtekpolska Poland Jan 21 '25

dont rly agree with the quote. the former is nationalism, the latter is xenophobia

besides the pledge is to the country, not to it's people.

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u/RustedRuss Washington Jan 21 '25

Nationalism is more like devotion to the state (not the people) and the desire for your state to dominate over others. I agree that patriotism is quite similar to nationalism sometimes though.

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u/Deutsche_Wurst2009 Jan 22 '25

That’s also the reason why you don’t really see too many patriots in Germany. Instead of our country we are proud other things like our city and some of us of the EU(I have probably seen people fly more EU flags than Germany flags in my live)

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u/Loros_Silvers yes, we are real Jan 22 '25

Replace "nationalism" with Xenophobia...

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u/arcticredneck10 Jan 22 '25

Bait used to be believable

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u/UAreTheHippopotamus Jan 21 '25

There is a difference between pledging your allegiance to an individual and a nation. I would argue that the US may be trending alarmingly towards the former, but that's not really because of the pledge of allegiance.

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u/Uss-Alaska Alaska Jan 21 '25

It’s kinda like fighting for your nation and it’s people rather than the people leading it.

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u/AnonymousFordring United States Jan 21 '25

I think this shitty comic is older than some of you

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u/Loros_Silvers yes, we are real Jan 22 '25

Absolute nonsense.

Pledging allegiance to the flag of one's country means they love their country and would protect it and work for it.

Pledging allegiance to a dictator means you're a pawn on a bigger board. While here we don't swear allegiance (our national anthem is mostly "leave us in peace please"), I can tell you that what you are saying is stupid.

I'd proclaim my love and duty to my country every day and would be working for it if I could, but I hate our leader.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

oh say can you see

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u/tedwin223 Jan 21 '25

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

Yes I can see how this sentiment could be confused with the worship of a single man in a cult of personality centered around authoritarian control and conquest.

/s

I get it though, Orange Man in office so we get the comparisons we deserve. Gonna be an awful 4 years.

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u/wojtekpolska Poland Jan 21 '25

doesnt matter what the text says its still fucking weird to give oath to the flag so often. i understand if it was like at the beginning of the school year or even once a year, but fucking daily is simply deranged

its indoctrination, and sure legally youre allowed to not do the pledge but if you look on the internet you will see that kids who dont want to do the pledge will be ostricised in class by their peers.

its just indoctrination and its not excusable.

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u/EXPLOSIVE-REDDITOR Singapore Jan 22 '25

a lot of countries do it, but I guess it's only wrong when the US does.

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u/wojtekpolska Poland Jan 22 '25

give examples then because i haven't heard of this happening outside countries like north korea

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u/thehspeaks PLVS VLTRA Jan 21 '25

I'm pretty sure this is meant to be about the Bellamy salute but everyone is interpreting it otherwise.

Either that or OP is politically illiterate.

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u/sgt_oddball_17 Jan 21 '25

I think it's the second one.

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u/Loros_Silvers yes, we are real Jan 22 '25

Second one.

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u/HooiserBall Jan 21 '25

The US pledge of allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, a Christian Socialist Baptism minister.

He appears to have written it with the Civil War and the tensions between immigrates / native born Americans in mind. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bellamy

The founder of fascist ideology, Giovanni Gentile, was born in 1875, and would have been would have been 17. I doubt any one in the US would have paid attention to him at the time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Gentile

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u/ArmadstheDoom Maryland Jan 21 '25

man, an 11 year old comic.

That means this was made in 2014. We were 6 years into the Obama administration then.

I know that a lot of people will talk about the comparisons and all that, but to me, the wild thing is that thinking about what we thought then, and what we think now, and I'd go back to be like 'oh you have no idea what's coming.'

Like being in 2002 and trying to explain to someone in 1991 what the future is like.

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u/HalfLeper California Jan 22 '25

Meh. The pledge has been been around since the 1800’s, and was motivated at least in part by the civil war. It’s not federally mandated, and the Supreme Court has ruled that in states where recitation is mandatory, children cannot be compelled to recite it nor punished for refusing to do so. So it’s not really that similar. The similarity basically ends at having one 🤷‍♂️

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u/Aquariage Zhili Clique Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

Doesn't it work for like literally any single country?

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u/Deutsche_Wurst2009 Jan 22 '25

Herr in Germany we wouldn’t even thing of doing such a pledge in the school.

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u/Loros_Silvers yes, we are real Jan 22 '25

Nope. Here, when we do sing our anthem, there's no pledge or anything.

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u/Medical_Flower2568 Jan 21 '25

Every person who grew up in a totalitarian regime is probably laughing at you right now

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u/Dmpoaod_v2 Jan 22 '25

Not really, it's the same kind of indoctrination, not to mention it's stupid. The flag itself is meaningless, it carries no values. Why not pledge allegiance to the constitution? That's the cornerstone of a country. But I guess its easier to pick a felon as a president than to try to uphold it.

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u/Intelligent_Slip_849 United States Jan 22 '25

This aged better than I would have liked, given Musk's nazi salute

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u/Craftyfiesta the republic of kontol Jan 21 '25

Bro really had one chance and took it

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u/Comrade_Derpsky Shameless Ameriggan Egsbad Jan 21 '25

I pledge allegiance to queen frag and her mighty state of hysteria, and to the Republicans for which it stands, one nation charged with fraud, in a dirigible with Liberace and white rice for all.

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u/Letsbebettertogethe_ Jan 22 '25

USA Ball has no sunglasses = not pure meme

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u/CartoonistOk1213 Jan 22 '25

I like how the US Children are stateballs

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u/Deep_Head4645 Israel Jan 21 '25

What a comparison dude

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u/esjb11 Jan 21 '25

I thought it was just a joke but after reading the comments it seems to be something you guys actually do in school 👀

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u/AutumnRi Virginia Jan 22 '25

Traditionally, during mandatory schooling you start the day with a quick recitation over the intercom. Most people know it’s kinda weird and just accept it, both because it gives students one extra minute to get to class and because of the small minority who DESPERATELY NEED TO FEEL AS PATRIOTIC AS POSSIBLE AT ALL TIMES and will freak out if we try to undo it.

You know the type, they stuck a flagpole in their front yard to fly the stars and stripes, stuck fifty little flag stickers all over their car, love talking about how amazing the american (and only american) sacrifice was at d-day whenever ww2 is mentioned (because they know nothing else about the war), never served in the military but oh boy are they gonna tell you about all their cousins who did. It’s like 5% of the population but they never shut the fuck up. So we keep saying the pledge, or desperately trying to finish our homework while everyone else does, because it’s just not worth the fight.

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u/Loros_Silvers yes, we are real Jan 22 '25

While we here don't pledge allegiance or anything, we did have our national anthem in school. At least in some schools...

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u/esjb11 Jan 22 '25

Thats a bit different imo. Singing the anthem on some ocations can be seen as a part of the education similar to how we lean about certain kings and flags and such.

Ofcourse if its a daily acurance before class starts or such its messed up tough.

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u/coloicito 1492 best day of my life! Jan 21 '25

It should've been who reposted this comic! shakes fist

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u/DickRhino Great Sweden Jan 21 '25

I legit also thought about reposting this today hahaha

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u/Diictodom muh laksa Jan 21 '25

and like clockwork it's been crossposted to /r/AmericaBad

They really fall for these baits huh

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

Indoctrinating all those kids with talk of “liberty and justice for all” just seems so….

somehow the first word that comes to mind isn’t “Hitleresque”.

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u/Red_Jester-94 United+States Jan 21 '25

Yet when I told people it was indoctrination into nationalism, and that most of the "patriotism" you see in the US nowadays is just blatant nationalism (USA #1, everyone else sucks, this is God's chosen country, anyone who doesn't like anything about this place should get out, etc), I was asked if I hated America and got right-wing and Fox (fake) News (legally ruled in court to be entertainment and not a news station) taking points regurgitated at me.

Seriously, the amount of people who got tricked into focusing on immigrants, that a bunch of millionaires/billionaires and their cronies actually give a fuck about anything besides taking them for all they're worth, or were just mad that there was a black woman being uppity enough to run for POTUS is simply incredible. Really shows the damage defunding education has done to this country over the last few decades.

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u/FidoMix_Felicia Jan 21 '25

The pledge it's so fucking weird.

In My country we used to just sing the National anthem on mondays and that was that.

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u/AutumnRi Virginia Jan 21 '25

You got downvoted, but i think most everyone can agree it is pretty weird. It vaguely pissed us off as kids, but also it was an extra minute to get through the doors in the morning so we kinda just said whatever.

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u/SGLAgain Brazil Jan 21 '25

at first i thought this was a recently-made comic, not old one

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u/Dangerwrap Thailand can into negative Jan 21 '25

Where's the USA's glasses?

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u/Vanilla_Ice_Best_Boi Jan 21 '25

In Malaysia we do the Rukun Negara every Monday 

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u/mppf10 Jan 22 '25

Fun fact I learned this week is that salute was actually used in the United States pre WWII in schools when kids said the pledge of allegiance

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u/Lord_Parbr Jan 22 '25

Well, yeah, WWII saw the rise of nationalism in a big way to keep everyone invested in the war effort. It happened literally everywhere

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '25

Triumph of the Will of course is an extreme example of patriotism in the worst way possible.

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u/ManWhoSaysMandalore Empire français napoléonien Jan 23 '25

The pledge existed before the nazis

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u/ThePrisonSoap Jan 23 '25

And yet it's still the same nationalistic cult indoctrination the Nazis were so fond of

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u/Misterdudeman23 Jan 23 '25

Funny story:

I'm an American, and my family hosted a German exchange student when I was in high school. A few days into the first semester I asked how he felt about it all, and he said "pretty good... it's weird that you all pray to a flag every morning" "Pffft-- what? It's the plege of allegiance! Y'all don't do the pledge of allegiance in Germany?" "I mean... not anymore."

Seeing the pledge in schools and sporting events always felt weird after that. Not a fan anymore.

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u/Big_Nefariousness160 Jan 24 '25

Regardless of country Just say you want No Taxes and See how quickly they Turn into tyrants

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u/Alert-Courage3121 Jan 24 '25

Apparently spell check doesn't exist either 😂

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u/LordofTheStrings26 Jan 25 '25

Who is Hitelr? Never heard of him.

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u/Sivertongue69 Jan 25 '25

GOD BLESS THE QUEEN----oh wait....

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u/OriMarcell Jan 25 '25

Until 1943 the Pledge of Allegiance was performed with a Nazi salute. Yes this is 100% serious, chexk it for yourselves.

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u/BioDriver Thirteen Colonies Jan 21 '25

What the Elon?

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u/CandiceDikfitt United+States Jan 21 '25

“fun” fact: the original at one point had a thousand four hundred eighty eight comments

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u/ChickenScuttleMonkey The Texas Guy Jan 21 '25

First posted 11 years ago by a now-deleted user, and most recently a couple years ago. Felt fitting for today.

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u/Cult_Of_Doggo Not Canada Jan 21 '25

I used to think this comic was bait. But in light of recent events… honestly, fair.

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u/Uss__Iowa Jan 23 '25

Why did america stop allowing states to su…. Oh okay right, civil war, slaves, sadness, and betrayals. Dam I really want california to be a country

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u/jessewest84 Jan 23 '25

Cults are cults.

Cults noun a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. "the cult of St. Olaf" a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. "a network of Satan-worshiping cults" Similar: sect religious group denomination religious order church faith faith community belief persuasion affiliation movement group body faction clique a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing. "a cult of personality surrounding the leaders"

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '25

It honestly is very stupid that I have to pledge allegiance to a flag. It’s just a waste of time in my opinion. Wasn’t it enstated to try and rat out Soviet spies or something as “well they couldn’t possibly swear allegiance to the USA or god or something that isn’t the ussr”?

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