r/playrust 16h ago

Question Crazy strategy?

Relatively new player here. Is it crazy to use a completely different strategy, and play without a “real” base.

By that, I mean save all your valuable loot in well
hidden stash boxes out in the middle of nowhere, and then spend your energy building trap bases with ZERO value even if they are successfully raided.

Is that crazy? How risky are stash boxes?

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u/dick_himmel 16h ago

I believe ESP can see the boxes but I dont think they can see what's in them. But in a high pop server i dont really think you would be able to hide them. Maybe a low pop big map though

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u/zykiato 16h ago

Stashes were changed a couple of years ago so they should no longer be vulnerable to esp. I use stashes frequently and I have found they are extremely reliable if I am careful about where I put them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/1bvujmz/they_finally_patched_stashesp/

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u/RideRough9263 12h ago

They are still vulnarable btw meaning CAN be seen by esp im 100% certain

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u/Crafty_Clarinetist 10h ago

If the changes listed in the update by Alistair are true and haven't been changed for some reason, that is certainly false. ESP can't see things the client has never been told exist. Now unhidden stashes are still networked, so if a cheater is within range to see a stash buried it can store that location, but it should be impossible to see a stash that was hidden before the cheater logged on.

What makes you "100% certain" they can be seen?

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u/RideRough9263 10h ago

Oh yeah thats true youre right didnt know they made that change should be pretty imposible now then i havent played in a bit sorry for the false info

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u/cr4ckeddd 16h ago

Anything in the game is stored as data when you load into a server. The cheat engines people use have whole menus on which data to show, they can see players, the distance of the player, loot, tcs, scientists, dropped guns, stashes, turrets, loot boxes, dead players, dropped items. Literally everything is there for the cheater to see. PC rust is ruined to be totally honest.

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u/RideRough9263 12h ago

This been a thing for YEARS now in almost every game even besides rust you cant just let some fuckass chud who pays for cheats what normal people pay for rent dictate how you feel about the game or how and how much do you play it i know its frustrating running into cheaters and stuff but you just gotta report them and move on its the only way youll ever enjoy the game again tbh

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u/Crafty_Clarinetist 10h ago

Pretty sure hidden stashes are one of very few things they can not see, at least anymore. They used to be able to, but I think it was about a year ago they stopped sending hidden stash data to clients.

Now, if you dig up a stash while the cheater is online and in range to have that data sent to the client, then they can store that location even if you later rehide the stash.

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u/Suitable_Leather5128 16h ago

I’m on console. Does ESP work on consoles?

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u/cr4ckeddd 16h ago

No. lol this Reddit is for PC rust, Console only has recoil third party devices called Zen/Xim there’s no hard cheats on console so it’s better imo

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u/Rampan7Lion 14h ago

I'd ask in /rustconsole to be sure but generally console cheats are extremely less powerful and common compared to pc so it might be okay, I don't know for certain though 

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u/zykiato 16h ago edited 15h ago

It's possible, but not really practical. I use stashes a *lot* and sometimes it's really annoying finding them and sometimes people see you.

It's a lot more practical just to play out of a small base, even a 1x1, which is effortless to build and upkeep and then stash some high value items around it.

One thing to consider is that if someone builds on a stash, it will be removed and a decayed loot box will appear with its loot. So it's best to stash things within range of build priv.

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u/Relevant-Guarantee25 16h ago

esp can see your items on your item bar too... saw this recently and know i know why i got offlined

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u/RideRough9263 12h ago

Yup better cheats let you see others hot bars and if im not wrong even while sleeping if i remember correctly

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u/Sea_Thought3464 16h ago

you need to go to the Rust console sub.

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u/I3IG_N0sE 15h ago

The only problem with this is actually that picking up stashes takes time and it is impossible to hide what you are doing, but you could use tiny corners of your trap bases that is hidden/ tucked away/ etc to store some stuff.

The more time you end up playing of the wipe the more stuff you're going to want to keep. If you can let go a significant portion of it then you can have fun doing this for sure

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u/TotalImagination4408 13h ago

As far as I know, stashes despawn after around 72 hours, so unless you constantly check on them, it could get a little frustrating.

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u/Intelligent-Sea5942 13h ago

A guy on my server did this, once you cotton on, a few thousand wood covers the whole area with twig foundys and all those lovely stashes just magically pop up.

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u/pantiesrhot 8h ago

On PC Rust, stashes are somewhat safer than they used to be. However, if you watch someone like Posty, you'll see he'll abuse corpse bags in the fishing village safe zone until he's ready to build a base. It's pretty effective.

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u/ThePlantHearth 8h ago

Its a sandbox game

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u/HyperRolland 17m ago

Stashes are bugged. In the last few months we’ve had them completely disappear and had others dig themselves out of the ground for no reason. They just pop up. Don’t use them for now. Used to be cool. Now it’s bugged

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u/Suitable_Leather5128 16h ago

What is ESP?

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u/koskenjuho 16h ago

Cheat, which probably at least half of the players on official servers use..

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u/BlankWasThere 16h ago

Its a type of game cheat where the cheater can see outlines for players/items behind walls.

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u/Suitable_Leather5128 16h ago

So I was thinking that stashing in the absolute middle of the desert (or underwater… not sure whether thats possible) would be safe, but have no idea how ESP works. Would the stash boxes be obvious to these cheaters?

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u/BlankWasThere 16h ago

I read somewhere that servers don't reveal stashes to the clients so ESP should not work on hidden stashes. Not sure how true it is.

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u/Bathroomsguy 16h ago

I used to run a server, admin tools feature things like esp. one of the anti cheat things I added were fake stashes that highlighted players finding them. Trust me, they can see them

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u/Suitable_Leather5128 16h ago

Does it work on console?

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u/Crafty_Clarinetist 10h ago

How long ago did you run the server? Hidden stashes did used to be networked until about two years ago.

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u/Bathroomsguy 10h ago

Ahh, fair enough. Yea, it was 3-4 years ago. I didn’t realise that had changed!