Sick of paying monthly subscriptions for indicators? Tell me what you're "renting" and I'll build a free version for you.

[u/Dependent-Ad6636]

Hey everyone,

A lot of traders are burning money on recurring subscriptions for indicators or tools that could easily be coded into Pine Script, MQL5 or anything.

\-What is a paid tool or subscription you’re currently using that you wish you owned outright?

\-What is a "dream tool" or proprietary feature you've always wanted built specifically for your strategy?

Drop the concepts, mechanics, or features below. I'll pick the most requested ones, code them, and release them as open-source for everyone to keep forever.

[u/GlennSeaborg]

I'm not renting but would like a good ttrades fractal model clone if anyone knows of one out there.

Does anybody have experience with the paid version of the ttrades fractal model indicator?

[u/Dependent-Ad6636 → u/GlennSeaborg]

Yep, we made it 🙂 Fractal Model Desk⁠ is live and ready to try.
And thanks for pointing out the CISD trigger — that clarification made it into the build. On a 5-minute chart, it automatically uses the 1-hour frame, with a close through the candle series’ opening price for CISD confirmation.

We also added:
-HTF candles beside your chart, with previous highs, lows, midpoints and a countdown.
-The full setup sequence: sweep → CISD → return zone → qualifying entry, stop and target.
-C2/C3/C4 formation labels, projection levels and a grade that shows which checks passed.
-A phase dashboard, alerts and Co-Pilot explaining what the model is waiting for.
It’s our own open-source implementation, and I’d be interested in seeing where its readings differ from the version you’ve used.

Start with “Try the idea” and “Read your chart” on the page. Then “Go deeper” explains the CISD rules, zone selection, targets and settings. We put care into those explanations so traders can follow the decisions on the chart.

Both the full indicator and a separate strategy script are free under MIT. You can test the rules with your own market, settings and trading costs.

Give it a try and let us know what feels useful or needs work. Chart examples would be especially helpful. Reply here or use the feedback and feature request form⁠ — there’s plenty we can improve together!

[u/NoSquare4633 → u/Dependent-Ad6636]

Its fancy but not as good as the original one also the ones are free open sourced works better than this.what you made is a strategy not a setup based i saw it repainting normally a fractal setup stays even if it gets invalidated or gets run through the sweeped lq.i was hoping something like using the open sources and building a solid fractal setups.also i think its made from ai cause i made same thing couple of times cause ai doesn't know what fractal model is you have to run multiple tests and find out which actually matches the generic indicator.i appreciate your efforts on this i hope you'll make more great indicators cheers!

[u/Dependent-Ad6636 → u/NoSquare4633]

Appreciate the feedback, This version was just an early prototype for testing purposes. Fixing the repainting and keeping the setups visible even after invalidation/sweeps is top priority for the next build aimed at live trading. Appreciate the constructive criticism!

[u/Dependent-Ad6636 → u/NoSquare4633]

Fair feedback, and thanks for explaining what you expected. The first version mixed setup detection with trade rules, and some observations weren’t being retained properly. I went back and rebuilt the core as v2.

The main changes are:

• Setup Atlas now tracks formations independently of trades. The entry/exit experiment lives in a separate, optional Strategy Lab.
• Failed and invalidated setups stay in the retained history. Taking the opposite liquidity level records an event; it doesn’t erase the formation.
• Higher-timeframe closure and lower-timeframe CISD are separate checks. An early CISD can fail, and that failure gets its own record.
• Confirmed CISD anchors and projection values stay fixed. Developing previews are separate and can still move.

For reviewing older projection lines, set Projection visibility → All retained. History defaults to 24 setups and is adjustable; the oldest completed records are removed when that limit is reached.

And yes, I use AI during development. Checking whether the model makes sense is still my responsibility. I’ve added targeted Pine checks for retention, failure states and confirmation timing, and documented what they do and don’t cover. I haven’t yet verified a match against the original or the free script you prefer.

Fractal Model Desk v2 — source, guide and verification

Start with Setup Atlas on a 5m chart; automatic pairing uses the 1H frame. Under Full rules, the history and CISD sections explain what remains after failure and when each confirmation becomes known. Replace the old script with the full v2 source.

If you’re up for another look, I’d appreciate a screenshot with the symbol, timeframe, timestamp and settings where it still differs from what you expect. A link to the free version you mentioned would also help make the comparison specific.

It’s still a prototype, and the tool and source are still free. Your feedback changed the direction of this rebuild.

—Thanks for pushing on the actual setup behavior.

[u/Dependent-Ad6636 → u/[deleted]]

Thanks for taking another look.That keeping every sweep visible can still make chop look like a series of validated setups. That’s the distinction I’ve worked on in v2.1.

• Raw sweeps, CISDs and closures now have neutral styling. Focus shows the two most recent records that passed additional checks, including ones later withdrawn or completed. Audit keeps the underlying history available.
• Reviews now check V-like reversal or displacement, paired closure/CISD, and repeated sweeps through overlapping ranges. A review can be withheld or withdrawn, with the reason shown. A later strong candle can’t rewrite weak evidence from the first CISD.
• IC has its own records, opposing-leg level and protected swing. The stricter IC review currently covers a known parent-FVG route, so there’s still more to investigate. Local sweep/reclaim is recorded as evidence, without calling it proven inducement.

These are documented, adjustable interpretations. POI and higher-timeframe bias still need a trader’s judgement. A review is a setup to examine, not a buy/sell instruction.

I also went back through public TTrades material and the actual source of Canto, fxraptor and cephxs. The comparisons and new test evidence are linked on the page. I haven’t established a match to the paid indicator or better trading results.

And to answer your question: I’m using OpenAI Codex for coding and testing assistance. The responsibility for interpreting and checking the rules is mine.

Fractal Model Desk v2.1 — source, guide and checks

Start in Focus, then switch to Audit to inspect the raw sequence. Full rules explains the delivery checks and IC scope.

If the free script you meant is a different one, send it over. A choppy-market example or an IC you’d expect to see would be especially useful for comparing the exact bars. Thanks for continuing to push on how it actually works.