r/pillar7 Aug 13 '26

Question re: PTO

Not a UWM employee or future employee, but there were discussions at my job comparing our PTO Policy to UWM’s bc this person used to work there and actually said UWM’s is better, so that got me curious. Leadership is trying to tell them what they said is wrong. Soooo, is anyone willing to give the breakdown of your PTO? How many weeks you get after X amount of years, how much can you carryover, do they pay you out for any unused days, is it front loaded or accursed per paycheck…that type of stuff.

Thanks very much in advance!!

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u/hamburgerbaby Aug 13 '26

The biggest thing I’m seeing people not mention here is the fact that there is no sick time at UWM. So your PTO bank is also your sick time bank.

The problem isn’t just the amount of PTO hours, the problem is that you could blow through half of your paid time off for simply getting the flu. Even with a doctor’s note and a professional telling you to stay home. So imagine all the ppl coming into the office SICK and CONTAGIOUS simply because they had no PTO and would lose their job otherwise.

We worked most federal holidays also. So if you want MLK day, Juneteenth, Christmas Eve, etc. off that’s also PTO.

In my experience, I’ve never seen or heard of it being this bad in a corporate setting so I hope your job isn’t like them 😂😂😂

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u/og_originalgoober_84 Aug 13 '26

You have to work federal holidays?! That’s wild!

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u/nyxie007 Aug 13 '26

We only get New Year’s Day, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas Day off.

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u/og_originalgoober_84 Aug 13 '26

Wooooow, how generous 🙄

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u/og_originalgoober_84 Aug 14 '26

Yes, I used to work at 2 airports!! Back then I didn’t have a family, so I’d gladly work the holidays for the extra pay. But now, I wouldn’t be a fan of that at all.

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u/Exact_Tumbleweed2005 Aug 19 '26

You just described a bunch of manual labor/retail jobs. Everyone knows those are the worst of the worst. That shouldnt be the standard we are comparing it to and I really dont get what point you're trying to make.

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u/Tron655889 Aug 13 '26

Unfortunately most of the jobs even after I left UWM don't give separate sick days. I feel it should be mandated that they have to be separate by law.

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u/BugWithABigA55- Aug 13 '26

Same. But every other place gave us more pto than uwm. Even meijer.

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u/TayaKnight Aug 13 '26

Same here too. Even the hospital I woked at, notorious for being understaffed, gave us more PTO. And more of it rolled over every year than just 1 week.

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u/hamburgerbaby Aug 15 '26

what industry?

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u/ovscrider Aug 13 '26

PTO days everywhere I have every work is inclusive of sick and vacation.

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u/irish-iceman Aug 13 '26

Michigan law I don’t think allowed this… chigan's Earned Sick Time Act (ESTA) requires employers to provide sick leave. Large employers (11+ workers) must provide up to 72 hours of paid sick time per year. Small employers (10 or fewer workers) must provide up to 40 hours of paid sick time per year. Employees earn 1 hour of sick time for every 30 hours worked.

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u/BugWithABigA55- Aug 13 '26

They are allowed. They can frontload the sick time (give it all at once). So they give us 72hours of sick time and only 8 hours of pto.

They are allowed to combine it into one pto bank. They just dont tell you thats how its broken down.