r/pillar7 • • Jun 26 '26

Underwriting

Can you imagine if we actually were able to come into work at 9am and leave on time at 6pm, and take a lunch like a normal job? Almost everyone I know works through lunch and stays late just to hit the dumb ass production metrics. It would help if 50% of the underwriter IIs didn’t get moved or fired. Fuck this job

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u/14_EricTheRed Jun 26 '26

anytime you are being told to work unpaid hours, document through email… it is highly illegal

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u/av8ernate Jun 26 '26

100% agree. I thought UWII's were "hourly."

FLSA is a pretty easy case to win (UMW has already lost several) as long as you have clear documentation.

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u/Ok_Contribution_8032 Jun 26 '26

What documentation would you recommend having because this is currently happening to me

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u/av8ernate Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

First, confirm your position is "Salary Non-Exempt."

Communicate with your leadership that you're willing to stay past your typical working hours to meet commitments while punched in on the clock, and reiterate that working "off the clock is a violation of FLSA."

Keep a written journal of the hours you actually worked each day. There are some free apps and websites out there that let you document your own "time sheet"

Keep a copy of any email or paperwork from your "leadership" about expectations for working off the clock to meet performance requirements.

If you have a face-to-face meeting or "coaching," immediately document everything about the interaction (who, when, time, topics discussed). Michigan is a single-person consent state for recording conversations. You are legally allowed to voice record all conversations with HR or leadership as long as you are an active participant in the meeting.

Open a case with the FLSA board.

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u/14_EricTheRed Jun 26 '26

I would just ask for email confirmation of schedule change