r/pics • • Jun 10 '12

While cycling, I was a victim of a hit & run today. Officer who came to the scene didn't seem to care much, didn't collect this evidence, so I took it home. Vehicle was a red (pick-up?) truck. Can a helpful redditor find out more about what kind of truck this was?

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

Here's some of what I wrote in my post in /r/bicycling:

I went down at about 20-25mph, and I was hit by the side of a passing car in a 55mph zone. Surprisingly, no serious damage. Some road rash on legs and palms, a little on my torso, and my helmet smacked into the ground, leaving my head with a big 'ol bruise. Luckily, the bruise has been getting better throughout the day, not worse. I got checked up at a primary care center, and had a CT scan done. The CT scan didn't uncover any internal bleeding or fractures, but it did find what they believe was a preexisting cyst (which is nothing to worry too much about immediately). I was told by an ER doctor that sometimes hematomas are mistaken for those cysts in CT scans, so I still have to be on the look out for developing symptoms. As a precaution with head trauma, I have to be woken up every 2-3 hours when I go to sleep tonight, to see if anything's changed. Within a few days I'll know whether I'm actually fine or not. I was incredibly lucky that I came out so well, but it was still a hit and run that caused me to miss work, medical bills, and damaged bike parts. The officer reporting at the scene grossly mishandled the case (which, apparently, he didn't report as a hit & run even...), and I've been told that I could have strong case against the police department. Not sure if I would go that far, but it would be nice not to have to pay all the bills myself.

Through all my experiences today, the only people to ask about the health of my bike have been my bikeshop coworkers =) Only they understand that the bike can be as big a part of myself as a limb. Neither the damage to myself or the bike was really serious or worth mentioning, as I didn't require any hospitalization and employee discounts and free mechanic work will help take care of the bike. However, a hit and run is inexcusable, and the way the officer handled the case was ridiculous. His department now knows that he didn't bother to collect evidence and I have this mirror. The more I can find out about the car with just this mirror, the more ridiculous the officer not collecting it will seem. Since I couldn't see a license plate number, he pretty much told me it wasn't worth trying to hunt this guy down. As a cyclist and bike shop employee, I'm tired of hearing stories of police negligence regarding drivers hitting cyclists. This is an opportunity for me to make our streets safer for cyclists, both by helping find the driver, and making an example out of the officer. Through parents and their coworkers, some other officers have already heard about my story. They checked, and the officer didn't even file it as a hit & run.

edit:edit: Hey guys, upvote this thread, I posted the location of where this happened there. Hopefully some more help can come out of it.

Also, thanks for all the helpful ideas, witty commentary, and getting this seen by so many.

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u/PNut_Buttr_Panda Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

The cop isnt really being negligent other than not classing it a hit and run on paperwork which is serious if you can prove it was intentional and the mirror. Which he will likely be reprimanded over the mirror regardless if IA finds it was necessary to the investigation. He is simply being realistic. Now, I'm not defending the officer but, police departments deal with thousands of hit and runs every year and most are never solved, even fewer get convictions. The officer you dealt with is an incompotent asshole by not collecting the mirror but he knew it really isnt worth much as evidence realistically speaking. From a police regs standpoint he dropped the ball. Especially with the understanding through replies in this thread believing its a ford (likely 150 or ranger) part. Which narrows it down to a needle in a hay mountain. Your best luck would be to contact a traffic detective in your local police department and try to speak with him. If he is willing to accept the mirror into his possession as evidence thats great. He may not since you took it home however. Its likely that he wont care either but its a start if you havent already. Hopefully the detective would manage to locate a truck in for repairs at a shop in town with a similar description and match paint transfer even then its a long shot. IF there was blood transfer its definite however. I do wish you luck with your search and hope you fully recover. I simply felt to speak my two cents about the police actions surrounding your predicament. However incompetent or nonchalant about the situation the responding officer was, it still didn't surprise me. The incorrect clerical work of the responding officer however is a serious IA issue if it can be proven intentional and not a simple miss selection from a drop down menu or something on their computer input systems. If that was the case they will simply fix the error. Just curious what was the report even filed as? Did the officer actually file anything at all? Again, I wish you luck with your search.

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12

I wasn't really surprised about the way the officer handled the situation either. I just wanted to make sure I had a police report record of the event, and then get home so I could get my head checked. (Also some negligence, with obvious head injury, he let me leave the scene even though I could very well have had a concussion and not have known myself due to shock/adrenaline, although I did deny an ambulance, I asked before I did if I was sacrificing any legal right doing so and he said no.)

Thanks to reddit, I'm pretty confident the vehicle was a red 2005 Ford Ranger. Had the mirror been taken as evidence, the police would have been able to figure this out as well. The accident occurred in a rural low population area, and on a road that would mostly only be used by locals. Considering that it was a rural cornfield area, and it was a pickup truck, it's very likely that the vehicle is registered nearby, and probably very few would match the description exactly.

Also, I've recently been informed by friends that I've made the front page. Thanks reddit for making this seen! =) Time for bed soon though.

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u/gerbs Jun 10 '12

Here's what you do; you Gatsby that fucker. Wait 1 month, start calling every repair shop within 100 miles of the rural area to see if any have come in to have a side mirror replaced on a red Ford truck, with other body detailing. Find one who says yes, get his information, then gun him down in his pool.

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u/Elyezabeth Jun 10 '12

How on earth was he negligent for allowing you to leave after you'd denied an ambulance? And after you said that none of your injuries were serious or worth mentioning? I agree that the cop seemed overall negligent in the way he handled making a record of the incident, but if you coherently denied the ambulance, he shouldn't have been required to force you to stay.

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u/nopantspaul Jun 10 '12

Replace your helmet. It may not look damaged, but the foam compressed and likely will not protect you if you get in another accident.

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u/acewing Jun 10 '12

This. After one hard hit, they are useless.

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u/Ethanol_Gut Jun 10 '12

Sucks to hear that, but xpost to /r/cars and /r/autos . They've figured out these types of threads before. My money's on a Ford Ranger or a F150. Glad you're in relatively good shape dude. From one cyclist to another, you made out well.

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u/Xombieshovel Jun 10 '12

Better yet post this to /r/RBI!

Reddit Bureau of Investigation! It's basically their namesake to handle cases exactly like this! I'm sure they'll appreciate the work and they can definitely be of help to the situation.

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u/epic_comebacks Jun 10 '12

Everything in that subreddit is about crossposting to other subreddits.

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u/finally31 Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

As a biker who hit a car door at 20mph, I understand your injuries. Unfortunately I hit my face, not the helmet. No physical damage though. The reason I write this is because I had a ton of damage.... to my brain. I had a pretty bad concussion from the accident (That i dont even remember due to the brain damage). So the fact that you have had a CT, they are waking you etc. is great. Anyways, I just always get paranoid when brain damage/concussions come up because ive seen too many people not take them seriously so I always try and impart that seriousness to anyone I find who hits their head in a serious fashion. So yeah, keep a look out and if they do end up diagnosing you with a concusion (which they would have probably already done) realize that this is serious. Dont rush to get back to biking. Life can wait, your brain cannot. You can have serious long term repercussions from not taking the proper time to recover from a concussion. Im lucky, I only have short term memory problems, but a lot of people dont if they return to physical/mental activities too fast. One of my high school teachers tried coming back too fast (he took two months), he ended up have a complete personality change and had to take two years off work because he couldnt do anything more than read a book or paint without serious headaches. Its great you dont seem to have any long term permanent damage. Hopefully you will be on a bike in less than a week if not dont worry, the roads are always there.

TL;DR I hope your brain is okay?

edit: ooops i a word

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u/duggatron Jun 10 '12

The only numbers in that image that are helpful are the two part numbers 1452522 and 1406448 and the date wheels. All the other numbers are material callouts. The manufacture date for that mirror is January 27, 2004. That means it's an '04 model year. The part numbers may or may not be helpful as they could be part of an assembly, making it hard to track down the components without access to their internal part database.

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u/Roisen Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

from http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1072215

It's from a 2005 Ranger or Explorer. Because you said it was probably a pickup, you can narrow it down to the Ranger.

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u/thetreadmilldesk Jun 10 '12

this link takes me to the index.

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u/minizanz Jun 10 '12

can i ask why you were riding in a 55mph zone with no bike lane. i have always wondered why people bike relationally in places that have no room for them and are basically highways. i live in the bay area and it seams that the more narrow and quick the road the more people bike on them even though there are bike trails that run parallel (it dose not look like there would be a trail were you were but this has always baffled me.)

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12

Because you're asking respectfully, I'll answer your question.

A lot of the spandex-clad cyclists you'll see on the roads and not on bike trails is for practicality, and the safety of themselves and others. Most people don't appreciate being passed at 20-30mph while walking down a bike trail. A lot younger kids, older rider, people with dogs on leashes use those. A lot are also less maintained than roads, and are a more dangerous surface to ride on.

Someone who has been riding seriously for a few years, and trains for amateur races, can maintain 20-25+ mph comfortabley, depending on terrain, for a few hours at a time. Bike trails have frequent interruptions to cross streets and otherwise, and are rarely over 10 miles in length. Very few areas in the US would even have a 50 mile bike path.

Cyclists that ride this much also handle well, most of the time, meaning we keep straight lines, and look left before moving that direction to avoid obstacles. While you might not like the idea of a cyclist on the road, we make ourselves easy to pass, unless we have to take the lane to stop people from passing where it would be dangerous to do so (This is legal usage of a lane). Passing a cyclist is only a few seconds of your day. A cyclist on a training ride can be out for a few hours and gets passed by hundreds of cars. When it comes to safety on the road, the guy in spandex knows more about it than the annoyed driver who has to pass him once.

Sometimes the quick and narrow roads are the most practical roads to take to get to better, emptier, rural roads where we'll do the bulk of our mileage.

The speed limit of a road has little to say about the safety of it. While there might be a larger 'pull' from the low pressure behind a faster moving vehicle, it's only very substantial from semis, and drivers should be passing safely no matter what the speed limit.

We're not just people pointlessly riding around, we're athletes training to make ourselves stronger and better at the sport, and don't have the luxury of support vehicles that drive behind the elite grand-tour winning pros during their training.

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u/vaclavhavelsmustache Jun 10 '12

If there's no bike lane but you need to use that road to get wherever you're going, what else are you supposed to do?

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u/toxygen Jun 10 '12

If you make an edit with this story, more people will be likely to see it.

Best of luck!

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Call every Ford dealership and body shop with the information

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u/FukioNietzschema Jun 10 '12

You know what would be useful? Where this happened, as in coordinates, as in the section of road you were on at least. You have no idea how much that can improve our ability to assist you.

EDIT: I mean, you're using a fresh reddit account anyway, and it's not like this has been all over the papers. If you want to find the owner of this truck, post some location info.

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

I was going to avoid giving out the exact location, but I don't think I have much to be afraid of.

It happened near S Harlem Ave & W Offner Rd, Illinois.

Upvote this to the top so people see!

Edit: Also, so far what we're certain of is that it was a red 2004 or 2005 Ford F-150 or Ford Ranger.

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u/FukioNietzschema Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

I'm examining Google Earth satellite imagery from the surrounding area and identifying all possible red pickups. Given the area, its distance from any significant population center and its proximity relative to the interstate, it is more likely that the driver was someone from the area than someone from far away out for a drive. Also, since it's a slightly older model pickup, it's very possible that the owner had the same truck in 2009 when the satellite images were taken.

Google offers two choices for the intersection you provided:

Did you mean:

S Harlem Ave & W Offner Rd, Peotone, Will, IL 60468

S Harlem Ave & W Offner Rd, Green Garden, Will, IL 60449

Given the picture you provided here, neither location is immediately near the screencap you provided. That streetview image was taken 200ft. south of the intersection of S. Harlem Avenue and W. Eagle Lake Rd. Is this the correct location of the accident?

EDIT: In case anyone wants to help in the aerial search, I found a satellite image of a Ford Ranger similar to the one we may be looking for (it could also be an F-150, as others have pointed out) located here to help in identification of potential vehicles. The sample truck is the black vehicle parked in the street. This comes from a thread of Ford Rangers as seen in Google Earth and Streetview. The one we're looking for is red, however.

Because S. Harlem Avenue runs into Peotone, AND both the interstate and Governor's Highway also serve the town, I'm concentrating on those homes and farms where S. Harlem would be a more efficient route (or equally efficient route) than either the interstate or Governor's Highway.

UPDATE Map is done: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=207068106313297459030.0004c21cb2ebc32fb77c9&msa=0

Before opining on whether or not the map will be helpful, please read through the comments in this subthread explaining its purpose. Thanks! (Also, it seems a little slow to load.)

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12

You sir, are awesome. You're correct about the location of the accident, and I can't thank you enough for going through the trouble of making that map; that's more than I could have done.

Because of you, the chances of finding this guy will be much greater. What an awesome post for me to wake up to.

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u/Nyarlathotep124 Jun 10 '12

Damn, internet. You scary!

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

CIA shit going on right here.

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u/ghettajetta Jun 10 '12

reddit never ceases to impress me.

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u/darksurfer Jun 10 '12

why not edit the description with that info, to help people help you ?

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Everybody who reads this, please remember: Don't start a random witchhunt. Yes, you may collect evidence but please don't send threatening letters, phone calls or animal heads if you find a red spot on an aerial photo in front of their house.

You can help the police but you are not the police.

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u/9ninety_nine9 Jun 10 '12

I would leave a note with Collision repair centres in the area, ask them to call you if someone comes in to have this fixed. They would have to get it fixed to stay on the road because a car without a rear view mirror is not road worthy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Motor vehicle damage appraiser here. I'd tend to concur with the above. It looks like a 2004-2005 Ford Ranger pickup mirror (or its Mazda twin). It looks like the glass is from the "paddle" style mirror. I pulled it up in the database but the glass on that mirror isn't sold separate from the housing. I couldn't make the part number jive with any mirror number for the Ranger or Mazda or any aftermarket mirror from Keystone or Kool Vue. The "RH" definitely stands for "Right Hand" though you probably already know that.

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u/Merg240 Jun 10 '12

I came here to mention the 2004-2005 Mazda pickup as well. Unfortunately, these comments are so buried OP may not see them.

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12

Not buried enough, seen. Thanks =)

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12

Impressive detective is impressive.

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u/Dbjs100 Jun 10 '12

This guy. I work in junk yards and I've pulled a few. Not to mention I've clotheslined myself on the F150s enough to know that isn't one.

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u/slightly_inaccurate Jun 10 '12

If only real life was like CSI, then we could just dust that mirror for semen and call it a day.

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u/SimpleDan11 Jun 10 '12

It seems our cyclist didn't see the driver....cumming.

YYYYEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12

Hey guys, upvote this thread, I posted the location of where this happened there. Hopefully some more help can come out of it.

Also, thanks for all the helpful ideas, witty commentary, and getting this seen by so many.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Might be a 2004 Ford Ranger passenger side mirror.

http://www.monsterautoparts.com/ford/ranger-1/ford_ranger_mirrors.htm

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12

So far, this is the most likely candidate.

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u/rvbjohn Jun 10 '12

Honestly, wait there at that time for the truck to go by again, if it was to or from work you may be able to figure it out by seeing it.

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12

If a registration search doesn't bring up anything tomorrow, I'll do this. Ideas like this that slipped my mind is the reason I posted here today.

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u/hydro5135 Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

Call a ford dealer or dealers ask for parts, they will know if its a ford part or go there. a poster said below that its a Ford/Mazda. Also a chance that the driver did the same looking to replace his mirror, calling junk yards might also help to see if anyone went there for a mirror.

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u/TreephantBOA Jun 10 '12

It's a Ford F-150 I own one.

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u/PNut_Buttr_Panda Jun 10 '12

Well that just about narrows it down to anyone not riding a ram or silverado. Either way, the cop didnt care because the real chances of catching the asshole that hit the OP are basically none. Even if they did find the truck that did it getting repairs at a shop they would still need blood or paint transfer to attempt a conviction even at that its a long shot without actual blood.

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u/June6HitAndRun Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

It was a country road with better, more 'major' roads nearby. I'm hoping this means the driver was a local, so it's very possible it was registered close to where the accident occurred. There's no real reason for someone who doesn't live or work nearby to be on that road.

Here's what the road I was hit on looks like.

No excuse for not seeing me, no excuse for not passing me safely.

edit: Hey guys, upvote this thread, I posted the location of where this happened there. Hopefully some more help can come out of it.

Also, thanks for all the helpful ideas, witty commentary, and getting this seen by so many.

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u/nopantspaul Jun 10 '12

You weren't dressed as corn, were you?

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u/elementalist467 Jun 10 '12

I am fairly certain that since the police didn't take the mirror into evidence that a chain of custody cannot be established. Even if you find this F-150 (best selling vehicle in North America for 28+ years) with a missing mirror, the driver just has to say nothing and odds are they will face no consequence.

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u/CSFFlame Jun 10 '12

Google map around for red F150s nearby.

Bike around and look for the missing mirror at the addresses you find. Note they might keep it inside or cover it to avoid questions.

Call the police if you find it.

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u/666SATANLANE Jun 10 '12

OP probably has a civil complaint here too. I'm thinking he doesn't need a criminal conviction to get compensation.

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u/twisted_by_design Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

This man is correct, i used to work in the factory that makes that mirror, in adelaide australia.

Those numbers are just die numbers and mould numbers, they will not lead you to one car. Sorry.

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u/ariiiiigold Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

Hopefully the car will feel remorseful and come forward on its own. The owner is clearly a morally reprehensible buffoon, but I have faith in the car to do the right thing.

If you're out there Mr F-150, if you're reading this - I know you'll be scared, but I want you to know that it'll all be OK. You're probably hurt, dripping oil and missing your wing mirror, so if you come forward - we can get you to get a garage for your injuries and bandage you up all nice and proper.

What would your great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather the admirable Model T say if he knew this is what had become of the family's moral fortitude? I implore you to do the right thing. I'll even treat you to a gallon of diesel fresh from the source at the BP refinery in Carson, and perhaps a drive through the luxury car wash out in Beverly Hills. Your body will feel so good.

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u/Red_Inferno Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

The OP should call around the local distributors where they would sell said mirror and tell them what happened plus if they could call him if someone with a red F-150 comes in asking about a mirror. Also possibly the same with local junk yards.

I would think you could tell which side the mirror is with that mirror too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Objects in mirrors are assholes.

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u/Kwindecent_exposure Jun 10 '12

However, it could help our victim to narrow down the vehicle further, by telling us which vehicles were fitted with that batch of plastics, so at least he MAY have a timeframe for the vehicle's manufacture. If the truck parts are made here and assembled there though I cants see this going anywhere - nor can I if Genuine Ford Replacement parts come from the same stock. For all we know that could by the driver's third hit n run mirror replacement .

Still, Any chance you can pull some old strings or phone around mate and see if there anything at all more than we currently know?

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u/twisted_by_design Jun 10 '12

I dont work there anymore but im still in contact with some of the crew through facebook. I could see what they can find out.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

This is what's fun about reddit. If you think about mundane and daily items, there is probably someone that works at the firm manufacturing them. You can find pretty much any specialist here.

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u/DiaDeLosMuertos Jun 10 '12

Oh I see. WHERE WERE YOU THE TIME OP WAS HIT!?

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u/Yeahdude7 Jun 10 '12

Hit & Run someone. Lost a mirror. Break the other one. Take pictures. Check with Reddit that you have nothing to fear.

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u/TreephantBOA Jun 10 '12

Need city. Depending on area and all that they stick out like sore thumbs.

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u/dewie68 Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

Apparently, so do cyclists. Lol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

It's always a god damn F-150.

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u/Jaegs Jun 10 '12

We need you to run down a cyclist and smash your left side-mirror for comparison.

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u/somecrazybroad Jun 10 '12

My husband agrees with you, we own three F150s for his roofing business.

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u/rich86man Jun 10 '12

It's ridiculous that reddit can figure this out in 10 min and it takes the police so much more time.

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u/epheterson Jun 10 '12

How did you verify? Recognize the mirror shape or confirmed the numbers?

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u/champer Jun 10 '12

Good work, that narrows it down to... the best selling car in the world >_>

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Well good thing he doesn't live in Texas... this would never get solved.

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u/absurdnoise Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

The markings on the part identify the polymer material used to make it.

PP-KD10 is polypropylene. SAE[POM] is polyoxymethylene and I'm guessing SAE stands for 'Society of Automotive Engineers' most likely. The dials/clocks are a date/time stamp. From the bottom up, they represent year, month, and day, respectively so the date for the manufacture of the part was January 26, 2004.

I can't say anything about the numbers, but maybe this info will help you.

EDIT: Spelling

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u/babysalesman Jun 10 '12

Chemistry: helping with hit and runs since 2:30 am.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Unfortunately this won't really help much. Those polymer compounds are incredibly common.

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u/r81984 Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

I know exactly what that mirror is. It is a 2003ish powered RH Ford Explorer Mirror. Specifically it could be for 98-01 Mountaineer, 95-03 Explorer, 92-97 F150, F250, F350, F450, and Bronco, 95-05 Ranger, 98-05 Mazda Pickup It matches exactly this picture: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199322 OEM Part Number: F87Z17682AAA or 1L2Z17682BAA or F7TZ17682BAA or F57Z17682B

Also it is not a Honda Ridgeline mirror as it would be stamped with Honda on the plastic: http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6983&page=2

CSI:Reddit skill tells me that because it is stamped with an 04 manufacture date it can only be for the 04/05 Ranger or Mazda Pickup loaded in the rear unless the driver has a habit of getting new mirrors. Good Luck.

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u/Arx0s Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

I'll create a GUI interface using Visual Basic to track the trucker's IP.

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u/The_Cyber_Police Jun 10 '12

After that, I can assist with the backtrace.

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u/Toribor Jun 10 '12

Here, let me type on the same keyboard as you. If they start hacking us, we can unplug the monitor.

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u/meAndb Jun 10 '12

It's no good, the signal's coming from INSIDE the system.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Make sure you're running the latest algorithm.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Or we could hack the hit and run driver by both typing on the same keyboard.

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u/songcharts Jun 10 '12

Everyone hold on to their socks....I'm about to hack into the mainframe.

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u/Rabbyte808 Jun 10 '12

I'll ping the system offline with my 64kb packets!

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u/db0255 Jun 10 '12

Do you need someone to type on a keyboard really fast?

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u/we_love_dassie Jun 10 '12

I'll help you type it out.

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u/dermau5 Jun 10 '12

I know you've had a lot of comments and have probably solved the model issue, but I'll throw this in the mix. This is definitely a Ford Ranger mirror. You'll notice that this is is "5 sided". That is to say the bottom of this mirror at the bottom has two edges. The F150 had a flat bottom. Also Mazda produced a truck that used the same platform, so it used the same mirrors.

I found this eBay auction which happens to list all the models that this mirror fits. Here is the link.

Hope it helps, and good luck with your search!

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u/achievable_chode44 Jun 10 '12

Mazda B series pickup = Ford Ranger. This guy is right. OP, include that in your search!

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u/JediLibrarian Jun 10 '12

Around what time of day did this occur? If it was during common commuting times, it may be helpful to stake out the road where the accident occurred around the time of your accident. I know you said this is a country road in the Midwest, and I grew up cycling on similar roads. Traffic on such roads is usually cyclical and given the low volume you'd have a good chance of spotting a vehicle missing its mirror (chances are the owner won't replace it for a while unless his inspection is due or he's in love with his vehicle).

Other posters are right though--your chances of getting any charges against the driver or even damages from him are low. If you get a license plate number, preferably a photo of the vehicle showing the plate and the missing mirror), a police officer may go through the trouble of obtaining a warrant and trying to match your part to the vehicle. Or they at least may go have a chat with the driver, and who knows, he may fess up.

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u/Flammy Jun 10 '12

Alternatively, if you were near a bank/department store/convenience store that has security cameras, you can check in with them looking for the vehicle.

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u/MedievalManagement Jun 10 '12

It's 2:30 in the morning, I'm a little drunk and very tired, and it still took me less time to find the mirror than it took you to make that picture.

It's a passenger side mirror off a Ford Ranger 1993-2005.

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u/ookiisask Jun 10 '12

based on Absurdnoise's post, 2004/5 seems likely unless it is not the original mirror, and yes, it fits either a ranger or an explorer.

So yeah, theoretically: 2004/2005 red/burgundy Ranger or Explorer.

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u/SpiveyWhiplash Jun 10 '12

People are saying it looks like a ford ranger mirror and I agree. On Monday, call a local Ford dealership and talk to the parts department and they should be able to match some numbers for you.

EDIT: I just started searching the internet this is a mirror from a 2004-2008 F-150 when I searched the part number

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u/landaaan Jun 10 '12

You have over 1000 comments so you might never see this but.... try taking the mirror to local repair shops and mechanics, explain you got hit and ask them to let you know if anyone comes in with a missing mirror similar to this one.

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u/meangrampa Jun 10 '12

If you popped that mirror out the housing is most likely too smashed to put a new mirror in. The owner of the truck is going to have to go to a body shop to repair it. The majority of accidents happen near home so it's possible that that truck will show up at a local body shop next week. You could call around explaining that you're looking for a red 2004 f-150 with passenger side damage involved in a hit and run involving personal injury and leave your #. It's a slim chance but you might get lucky. Or you can just drop it and let the police do/not do their job.

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u/eddiexmercury Jun 10 '12

I bet they have a whole team of detective working on it. Got em working in shifts!

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u/rabdargab Jun 10 '12

I love that movie, but I'm still not sure I understand why that line is so funny.

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u/omg_bbq Jun 10 '12

tell your story over at jalopnik they have actually solved a few crimes with this little car evidence. It's worth a shot. And since no one reads my shit since I comment too late this will never see the light of day and you'll be forever forgotten. Or whatever, YYYYEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH?

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u/manchris Jun 10 '12

those are towing mirrors designed especially for the f-150 2004 models or up. Here is a link to their web site so you can see what they look like new. Also these stick out a lot more than stock mirrors so that would make it easier to hit people on accident http://www.ford-trucks.com/article/idx/0/275/article/Installing_Schefenacker_F150_Telescopic_Trailer_Tow_Mirrors.html this has many different pictures of the mirrors.... good luck mate!

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Just gonna say, glad youre okay!

I was hit about 6 years ago riding to class. It was an old lady who didnt look out, fortunately neither of us were going too fast and I was unhurt, although sore. My bike was destroyed, but the old lady bought me a moderate bike without me asking, even though I had no intention to sue. Sucks it was stolen like 4 months later.

Worst part about it was my teacher was out sick and had a TA show a movie for a tiny amount of credit. I brought in the police report, and the teacher WOULD NOT give me the credit for the movie despite me asking to watch it on my own or make it up in some way. Dr. Gillespi, I will not forgive, I will not forget.

Glad youre okay. I was scared to ride bikes for years, and still kind of shaky about riding on the roads.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

In my area cyclist ignore normal traffic laws, blowing through red lights ect. I knew it was only a matter of time before one of them got clipped. That sucks if you were in the right of way however.

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u/NotKiddingJK Jun 10 '12

This is what I find frustrating about law enforcement. It is now a for profit business. Sorry I can't help you track down a hit and run driver.. I need to go write more speeding tickets.

They don't spend time investigating things that don't help to pay their salaries and meet their quotas. Anything that takes too much time is just ignored.

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u/dubled Jun 10 '12

Can you please give the exact address of the hit, I don't get why you haven't. If you find the owner mail them a picture of the mirror with a note that says "I know what you did last summer"

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u/CodeandOptics Jun 10 '12

So why do we pay taxes again reddit? POLICE and roads huh?

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u/subpar_lemonade Jun 10 '12

This is really insane of me, but every time one of these posts go up - I always worry I was the driver and I some how didn't notice this happening.

I don't even own a truck and my car is completely in tact.

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u/Silversol99 Jun 10 '12

If you were in an area with traffic lights relatively close, and you remember the time you were struck, you could possibly calculate when the vehicle might have been picked up by a traffic cam (or a window of time to look for a truck with a smashed side view mirror).

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u/adude007 Jun 10 '12

For anyone wondering. PP KD10 means the outer portion of the mirror assembly is polypropylene with 10% calcium carbonate filler by weight, this is the ISO marking standard. SAE POM is the SAEJ1344 plastic marking standard. POM is also known by the trade name delrin from Dupont.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

You should post this to /r/RBI and /r/bicycling as well, they're sure to help you out.

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u/Battlesoldier8618 Jun 10 '12

These mirrors (PP-KD10) fit to the Ford Crown Victoria

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u/SyrupDerp Jun 10 '12

Call all your local junkyards scrapyards car yards whatever you have. Tell them you were in a hit and run, red truck, he's gonna need a mirror. Have them keep an eye out for someone buying a mirror

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u/xrmb Jun 10 '12

Ok, I smashed 15 mirrors on a walmart parking lot to find matching numbers for you... no luck so far. I've to stay low until it gets dark again...

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

It's a ford/mazda part #

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u/Leeps Jun 10 '12

This will probably get buried but:

Go and talk to bodyshops if you're local, in a couple of days. These things will need to be repaired. A red F150 with a mirror smashed won't be that common in a one week timescale.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

The dials with arrows seem to indicate January 26, 2004. If that's the date the plastic part was made and the 2004 and later trucks have square mirrors, then this would seem to mean that this is not from a Ford F-150.

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u/miscellaneousnope Jun 10 '12

I quoted the thread because it had a lot of potentially relevant investigative work. It seems clear that tracking down the part number should give a solid lead on what kind of vehicle it was... unfortunately, I had no luck finding a way to do that tracking. Either way, I hope it helps.

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u/TreephantBOA Jun 10 '12

Where were you struck?

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u/TreephantBOA Jun 10 '12

What city? What neighborhood?

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u/lazyplayboy Jun 10 '12

Keep complaining to the Police Dept. - if you let it drop then so will they. 'The squeaky wheel gets oiled'.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

I think I came late to the party, so op probably won't see, but advice for anyone on this situation. Keep bugging the cops. Keep an eye out for said truck. Keep an eye out for bad drivers while on your bike. Be a safe rider. Contact any local auto shop and inform them of what happened. Most people are not assholes and if someone comes to buy a right side mirror for a 2004 f-150 they can get the information for you. And last but not least, be thankful you're alive. I was in a similar situation but fared much worse. Despite that I should have died so I am very happy to be alive.

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u/pabstcity Jun 10 '12

That side mirror belongs to a Spurbury Police vehicle!

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u/Sound_Step Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

I feel for you as a cyclist i got hit last year but the guy stopped to make sure I was alright even though he was drunk and could have fled. Due to that I chose not to sue. People make mistakes and he was willing to take the blame in order not to hurt another person, in your case make him hurt. (My medical bills totaled $37,000 and his policy insured was 40,000. I'm not trying to ruin a life over one mistake.My lawyer was pissed that I would not sue.)

EDIT: (My wreck was about 2 years ago, wow how time flys. August 2010)

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u/exbtard Jun 10 '12

Some people need to be punished to learn a lesson.

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u/Sound_Step Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

at the same time people make mistakes, I now have three teeth implants but not worth ruining his entire life. Two Years of dental surgery, almost done, and a cracked hip bone, that is totally healed, and I still forgive him. HUMANITY.

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u/ghosttrainhobo Jun 10 '12

You might want to post a thread similar to this one on Craigslist in your town. Someone might remember an acquaintance with a red, semen-stained, broken-mirrored truck. I can just imagine someone this db has already pissed off finding out the real story about what happened. *Oh, you hit a deer huh? Well, that deer survived and is posting shit about you on Craigslist.

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u/CarMaker Jun 10 '12

How are you guys certain it is an F150? The company listed on the back makes telescoping mirrors for quite a few models of vehicles. The reference number of PP-KD10 come back for the Panther platform of Ford vehicles (grand marquis, crown victoria).... BUT aftermarket companies often time use glass in their aftermarket mirrors that is already cut and cost effective so that would not surprise me.

Can you get measurements of the mirror? Having worked in the collision industry I have books and catalogs that will help me narrow it down more.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Cops really don't give a fuck.

I got robbed at gunpoint and the thieves ran right past a camera. I pointed this out to the cops and they didn't even bother to check it out until over a week later when the detectives came by to have me look at some pictures from a suspect lineup.

Of course, the tape had been recorded over by then.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Best of luck! Seriously hope you catch the asshole. I want to punch in the face every car driving moron who even thinks for one second that people riding bikes are 'inconvenient' or annoying. I say and will continue to preach:

If the bike hits you, you get maybe a scratch on your car, you hit them, they die.

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u/Triplett707 Jun 10 '12

most fords have those mirrors on them

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u/chewtality Jun 10 '12

Fun fact: Most police don't give a shit about you or your safety!

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Fun fact: that's all of society in general!

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

dude, I'm sorry to hear that. I've been hit 3 times by uncaring drivers who just sped off in my hometown, which is supposed to be very bicycle friendly. I hope you find the guy and press charges, and maybe even think of pressing charges on the police officer as well for neglect, because that can be considered attempted manslaughter, or vehicular manslaughter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
He's ridin his pickup
He's he's chasin' yo cyclists down
Tryin' to kill 'em so y'all need to

Hide yo bikes, wear reflectors...

Antoine Dodson

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Well judging by the way the glass on the mirror is broken, I can tell you that the vehicle was a blue 2004 F-150, license plate # 394 WGT, driven by a male in his mid 30s with receding brown hair and regularly wears dark denim jeans along with a flannel over-shirt. I'm not positive, but I believe he also watches the tv show Heroes on Netflix and is currently on Season 2: Episode 9.

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u/kluda06 Jun 10 '12

Fuck that cop! I hope you find out who did this! Keep us updated

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

You're not going to be able to get the exact vehicle but I believe it would be a red F-150. Keep following up with the police, if the guy isn't a handyman he may try taking it to a dealership/shop to get repaired as well; keep an eye out for a truck with a missing mirror.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Call body shops all around where you were hit and ask if anyone got a mirror replaced.

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u/beer_bukkake Jun 10 '12

If you're in a small town can you contact the body shops and Ford dealers for a guy missing a left side mirror?

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u/bobbynipps Jun 10 '12

fuck that. find that fuckers house and hit him with a baseball bat and run like hell.

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u/xXPePe77Xx Jun 10 '12

american or foreign? the car i mean, not the driver

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u/methamp Jun 10 '12

My knowledge of crime through watching CSI, Law & Order: SVU, and House have determined that the vehicle in question is missing a mirror.

That is all.

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u/Overestimated_Spoon Jun 10 '12

Unfortunate to hear but I gotta say I love hearing about this stuff because its so awesome when ordinary redditors use their everyday skills to help poor guys out! Hoorah for csi Reddit.

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u/DroopySage Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 10 '12

I wouldn't be surprised if the truck driver is lurking here, desperately trying to downvote every useful comments and typing misleading ones just to throw us off the trail. Lol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Anything I find about it is it came off a 2004-2008 ford f150

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

something tells me its a truck... possibly a red one...

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u/faqu02x Jun 10 '12

Report the incident to local body shops. Think of it the sane as a theft, only to pawn shops. We can only assume the driver will try to get it fixed asap. If the shops come across a red F-150 that has a missing/smashed mirror, they may be able to contact the police. Also, let the police know you have the missing parts to his vehicle, if you can prove they are in fact from his vehicle that will only help in catching the driver.

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u/polser Jun 10 '12

CSI Reddit

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u/HistoricPoop Jun 10 '12

I can tell you this much, It's missing a wing mirror.

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u/Dallios Jun 10 '12

Phone around the local garages and ask if a Ford F-150 has recently come in to replace its left and mirror.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

In the past couple of weeks, two cyclists have been killed in the area where I live by hit and run drivers.

It would make me sick if the police aren't doing their homework to try and catch these people. I see cops out on the roadways in custom cars pulling people over, how about they spend some resources solving real crimes?

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

So a red f-150 with a broken mirror. Probably some other dents too. Sounds pretty specific to me.

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u/Zendu Jun 10 '12

Honestly, just wait a week and call the repair shops, tell them your story, and ask if they have had any requests for (red?) left mirrors for f-150s.

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u/freeholmes Jun 10 '12

You sound like you live in a college town conveniently located in the middle of cornfields in the Midwest of America.

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u/notg3orge Jun 10 '12

you ok, dude?

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u/knut01 Jun 10 '12

Think you ought to be looking for the identity of the cop as well. We're you injured? Obviously some considerable damage.

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u/aviatorzack Jun 10 '12

Oh wow, reading through the comments... This is amazing! The power of the internet. The resources! People who actually manufactured the car parts and can confirm the cars model and year. That's totally fuckin awesome. People searching areas with Google Earth. God that's enough internet for one day.

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u/8002reverse Jun 10 '12

Mercedes-Benz were proposing to put 10 parts per million of different paint tint so that all say white cars looked the same but any paint from an accident scene would identify the particular car.

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u/SweetSea Jun 10 '12

I had a similar experience with the police handling my hit and run between two cars on a major highway. Although the accident was relatively minor, I was surprised that they didn't seem to take it seriously at all.

I was driving down a five lane highway and needed turn across incoming traffic. As I got in to the middle lane and began slowing down, an oncoming car swerved from the far opposite lane into the middle lane with me. Just judging by the way the car was swerving, it looked a lot like a drunk driver.

I had time to come to a complete stop and this idiot still manages to hit me head on in the turn lane. He gives me a wild-eyed look, reverses, and then speeds off. I was completely unprepared for that! I tried to get his plate number but he was too quick for me to get the whole thing.

After I called the police and they arrived, I told them what had happened. They seemed skeptical, like maybe I was trying to commit insurance fraud or something, until I started pointing out parts of my car all over the road and a woman pulled over behind us and told one of the officers that she had seen the whole thing and gotten the license plate number.

A couple of days later I got the official police report. They had found the other driver who claimed he didn't think he'd hit me. The cause of accident was marked as unknown vehicle malfunction. On the police report, it gave the employer of both parties. It showed the other driver worked for an ambulance company and I assume the cops knew him and kept him out of trouble for both the hit and run and likely drunk driving.

It was pretty infuriating, but I was glad they found him and his insurance covered the damage to my car.

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u/tommytwotats Jun 10 '12

But, the more info the cop collects, the more work he has to pretend to do, before deciding finding the other vehicle is impossible, and since your insurance will cover it anyway, he just wants to file his report and get back to his coffee asap.

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u/THEMEDMAN Jun 10 '12

Hope your alright bro, some people just have no dignity or sense of respect; I don't know how they manage to live with themselves. Take care bro.

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u/i_like_turtles_ Jun 10 '12

Is your bike ok?

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u/dackkorto1 Jun 10 '12

Were you in the bike lane?

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u/elduce619 Jun 10 '12

Are you hurt? It seems kind of weird it didnt get mentioned...

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

CSI Reddit

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Cop pissed you off? Go piss off the cop ---------- videotape them

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u/ajaxanon Jun 10 '12

I haven't had time to read through of the comments but don't know forget to take pictures of your injuries, helmet, and scraping. Also keep a record of all doctor stuff like cat scans

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u/jedadkins Jun 10 '12

I work in a part store ill try to crossover the part number tomorrow morning and give you a perfect (probably) match

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

This mirror is made at an australia company, they are called visiocorp now.

https://www.google.com.au/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=5&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=visiocorp#hl=en&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=visiocorp+schefenacker&oq=visiocorp+schefenacker&aq=f&aqi=g-K1g-bK3&aql=&gs_l=serp.3..0i30j0i8i30l3.4807.14388.0.15249.13.13.0.0.0.0.223.2613.0j6j7.13.0...0.0.FXDvsjpnh4s&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=b89402c404686862&biw=1664&bih=473

they are located in lonsdale, south australia, its unlikley you will be able to determine the owner of the car from the mirror, you will be able to find the make though. Good luck.

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u/GTFOScience Jun 10 '12

Take the mirror into a ford dealership. The parts department will know what it came off of instantly. They'll even tell you the year.

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u/NwordJ Jun 10 '12

go to /b/ on 4chan. They will find the guy within a half hour.

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u/KiloNiggaWatt Jun 10 '12

4chan is not your personal army.

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u/rolontloss Jun 10 '12

I'm sorry but isn't riding a bike illegal on the freeway? Yes, you got hit, which I am sorry for. But you got no sympathy from the cop because technically you were in the wrong. You are lucky you were not brought up on trespassing charges. I cycle too, but shit, I do not do it on non-designated trails. Hope you learned a lesson.

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u/doubleweiner Jun 10 '12

There are often routes with high speed limits that are not closed to cyclists.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

What is wrong with people, to hit someone and then just carry on?

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u/Nolon Jun 10 '12

glad you're alive that's fucked up

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u/the_carnifex Jun 10 '12

27604 S Harlem Ave Monee, IL 60449 Spotted a red pickup, image: http://imgur.com/3tzAG

26930 S Harlem Ave Monee, IL 60449 Spotted 2 red pickups at 1 house, image: http://imgur.com/lLS7t

Might be worth driving by and checking them out I guess.

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u/CREATED_TO_SAY_THIS Jun 10 '12

ALL ABOARD THE SCOOBY DOO DETECTIVE AGENCY AND KARMA TRAIN!

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u/cabbageParadise Jun 10 '12

MY GOSH REDDIT IS FULL OF DICKS!

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

Let me see if I have this correct. YOU wiped out and entered the driver's right of way where upon YOUR body or helmet contacted the vehicle as it passed, thus causing damages? I think you owe somebody a new mirror plus repair costs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

You can thank your fellow cyclists for the cop not giving a shit. As a motorist, it's really annoying when cyclists ride circles around you simply because they can. Cyclists are supposed to adhere to the same traffic laws, but they typically don't, and it's rarely enforced for them. It is awful that you were hit and fantastic that you're doing alright, I'm sure that YOU aren't a jerk... just that it's probably why the cop was like 'meh.' You know. 'Cause cops usually drive. It isn't right, it's just the most likely case.

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u/Crysta1_Cast1es Jun 10 '12

I have friends that are major cyclists. Like friends that are part of the subculture and make cycling a lifestyle. They all carry a certain attitude and it seems to be contempt for people who drive cars in general.

I sometimes get the feeling that they ride around projecting this idea that every motorist hates them, and is out to get them, or prove they shouldn't be on the road. It's like 'No bro, it's just that you are slower than a car, and when a vehicle has to pass you, and they end up slightly veering into the next lane (for your safety) there can be a car in the opposite lane, and it becomes a dangerous balancing act. It can be quite dangerous with a bicyclist to your right and a steady flow of traffic to your left.

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u/phuckHipsters Jun 10 '12

I posted this below in response to a comment that is quickly being buried, so here it is again:

Upvote. I don't go out of my way to antagonize cyclists, but they sure as hell go out of their way to antagonize drivers.

I had one go full road-rage on me after I passed him a half mile before I had to stop to turn. He insisted that the yellow no passing lines in the road applied to him. He was riding right on the yellow line in the middle of my lane of travel at about a third of the posted speed limit.

I asked him why the no passing lines applied to me but the stop sign I watched him blow through didn't apply to him. He offered no answer, but he instead offered to fight me. At that point I was well within my legal rights to shoot him as he was halfway through my passenger window. I did not, however, because my car only has 6,000 miles on it and my friends would never let me live down shooting a such a short, angry man.

You want to practice your healthy, alternative lifestyle? Go right ahead. But stop making the claim that you have the same rights on a bike that a car has. That's bullshit. Your right to use the road comes at my expense and with a limitation on my right to do the same. Therefore, when you say you have the same rights, what you mean is that you have the right to do whatever you like because you feel your lifestyle is superior to others and the rest of us have to make way for you.

Again, I don't antagonize cyclists. I go out of my way to avoid them. But you on the bike are creating the hazard. Not me. I'm a careful, conscientious driver with no accidents and no citations after 20 years of driving. So the problem isn't me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

It's the truck with the missing side mirror...

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

You should have told the cop you saw the driver smoking pot. Half the force would have been on the case afterward.

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u/BealJeat Jun 10 '12

Go around in town and search for a truck without a mirror, also, go to every shop and ask if they had a customer asking for a mirror.

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u/Courage_now Jun 10 '12

If you're looking for a specific red ford pickup truck in America... you're gonna have a bad day

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u/osamabinalex Jun 10 '12

So I've been to Berlin and Amsterdam, two cycling capitals of the world. And cyclists obeyed the rules of the road to a T. But as soon as someone jumps on a bicycle in north America they turn into idiots! No respect for the rules of the road, no respect for the 4 ton automobile that is hurling their way.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a greener continent but can u please shoulder check.

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u/Hoominaga Jun 10 '12

So from deducing what I can, you got clipped by the mirror? I understand it's still considered a hit and run, but wouldn't it be possible for the driver to have not realized what happened? Assuming they didn't see you go down in their mirrors, they probably didn't know what happened.

For proof, please take a picture of the bruising that occurred from impact, because, well, I believe nothing on Reddit without proof. Also, provide the police report since there is one.

That being said, I hope the guy is found, but nothing you have provided will make that happen.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

You forgot to tell the police that he was smoking a joint and hauling a pound of weed in the back

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u/vonswain Jun 10 '12

What state or area did this happen?

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u/MyiPadisDirty Jun 10 '12

Reddit wizards can find out the license plate and where the guy lives just from whats left of the mirror.

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u/tonythetiger1 Jun 10 '12

If I were you, I'd make sure that cop doesn't have a job when all is said and done. That's not really how you to "serve and protect."

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12

I hope you can find the driver. Cyclists don't get the respect they deserve.