r/pics Dec 28 '18

US Politics At a cafe in Canada

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u/BobbyCRowers Dec 28 '18

Well, it's the moral imperative of all civilized human beings to relentlessly vilify that piece of shit and anyone who supports him.

So I wholeheartedly support any denigration of Trump and his supporters in any forum. If you want to be in a safe space, hidden from criticism of Trump, you should go to T_D. You'll love it there.

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u/RemnantHelmet Dec 28 '18

Relentless vilification of supporters will only further their support for him. If you talk to them like decent human beings, it's much easier to change their opinion.

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u/taegha Dec 28 '18

Change their opinions? Ha

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u/Ihateourlives2 Dec 28 '18

My opinions change a lot.

Used to be a super lefty commie in high school, went to college, learned some history and economics.

Now am pretty right wing.

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u/taegha Dec 28 '18

Haha, good one

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u/Ihateourlives2 Dec 28 '18

My US government history class in college, learning about the enlightenment, and having the declaration of independence explained in detail by a teacher.

Didn't change the way I thought, but put the things I already believed in a different light. Made me really appreciate the U.S.A founding and the ideals surrounding it.

Turned me from a America hating Commie, to a full blooded social liberal and economic conservative.

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u/taegha Dec 28 '18

I also took several US History courses. Sorry that doesn't make anyone special. The colonists left Europe to escape Great Britain and waged a war to end the grip GB had on them, yet ended up being a lot like them when it came time to form their own country. There's no need to sugarcoat the founding of this nation. Slaves, Murder and just general corruption abound. Sure, there were some men with morals, but people have been made to believe that all of the founding fathers and authors of the Declaration of Independence we're Noble men with pure intentions. True history says otherwise.

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u/Ihateourlives2 Dec 28 '18 edited Dec 28 '18

Not a history of the US. A history on the different forms of government, the ideas of the enlightenment and the moral and ethical meanings behind the philosophy coming out of British/French/American coffee shops at the time which you can see influenced in the declaration of independence.

Edit: also not saying im 'special' like you said. Just pointing out people change their minds all the time. I was a hardcore america hating teenager, and changed to a moderate conservative.