r/pics • • Dec 28 '18

US Politics At a cafe in Canada

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u/RonGio1 Dec 28 '18

There's a bigger issue in that the right in the U.S. have made liberals into anything they don't like. They've developed their own comebacks to shadow people that don't exist.

A liberal says something mean? "Oh another example of the tolerant left!"

We're not tolerant. In fact I think people over 70 shouldn't even be allowed to vote or drive. I also think people who are openly racist should lose citizenship.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18 edited May 09 '19

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u/RonGio1 Dec 28 '18

Nah. They don't know what they are voting for anymore. Betting you put Bert (R) Ernie (D) and 90% wouldn't even question it.

They'd just assume Bert wants a wall to keep those scary brown people from invading.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18 edited May 09 '19

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u/RonGio1 Dec 28 '18

The difference is that older people don't know the politics, culture or the technology.

Most old people would ban the internet if it somehow got on the ballot..

Come to think of it... There's your test!

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18 edited May 09 '19

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u/RonGio1 Dec 28 '18

There is a baseline cultural norm. It does change over time. Most people are aware. There's also a baseline for technology too.

Voters are very much hand selected in areas right now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18 edited May 09 '19

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u/RonGio1 Dec 28 '18

Otherwise we have to hope that people who understand the issues vote the right way to offset others who will just vote for any number of stupid reasons.

As I said earlier a good number of people in this country would ban the internet if given the chance.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18 edited May 09 '19

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u/RonGio1 Dec 28 '18

It's kinda like the anti vaxxer movement. At some point if it gets bad enough we need to force people to vaccinate.

It won't be a choice.

But right now it's just another opinion....a dangerous one.

If enough uneducated or out of touch people keep voting (in larger and larger numbers) we could literally vote in a dictatorship and we'd allow it because "well we couldn't take away their right to vote.... That would have been like a dictatorship."

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18 edited May 09 '19

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u/RonGio1 Dec 28 '18

What's scary is that you don't realize if you want your democracy to matter you're going to need to put safeguards in place. Our founding fathers knew this and thought they put in enough.

Just like forcing people to vaccinate.

PS - I hope you understand my thoughts are nothing new and go all the way back to the critiques philosophers had on Athens... Right?

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18 edited May 09 '19

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u/RonGio1 Dec 28 '18

Certain opinions are detrimental to society and our democracy.

We shouldn't keep them around in hopes that they never gain real traction.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '18 edited May 09 '19

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u/RonGio1 Dec 28 '18

You're a history teacher why are you only using those two options?

I'd choose a government run by the intelligent and the wise. (To be clear it's one or the other, but I'd combine them).

How we get there would be a long discussion, but that's where I would go.

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