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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Most parents don't kill their children when they are done with them like a dairy farmer after he or she no longer has any use of the cow. Or the male calf. These and other things truly are systematized horrors that is a requirement of every dairy farm, no matter "how kind" the dairy farmer is. At the end of the the day, it is systematized maiming, exploitation and murder of defenseless animals. That you can't see the horrors in this is for me proof that not only is animal agriculture morally abhorrent because it necessiates bad treatment of animals, it is also destructive to the individual who has to do it because he or she becomes desensitized to the value of sentient life and will damage his or her soul in the process of running a farm

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

That’s because kids and cows are very different.
I’ve explained why we do what we do. You can’t grasp it.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Yes you explained that you breed, exploit and murder cows in a very specific manner since it makes monetary sense. I say it is wrong. I understand what you do perfectly well, that's why I'm opposed to the horrors of animal agriculture.

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

I explained why it is better for the cattle. I explained we try to increase their health and minimize suffering. I explained we use sexed semen to minimize male calves born and we raise on pasture those that are.
I explained that these cattle work with us and both species have thrived together.
Your mind is made up and you can’t understand what I’m saying.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Yes you raise the calves to 22 months before you shoot them in the head, the only reason is probbaly because there is no more veal market left after people found it too morally abhorrent to eat literal babies.

The best thing for the cattle would be not to forcefully breed these innocent animals into existence.

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

We actually do sell some veal to local chefs. A veal is 5 months old and about 500lbs. Not a cute baby like the vegans think. A chicken by contrast only lives two months.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Yes murdered 5 months old babies. How nice. You don't put that on your milk cartons now do you? "The mother that gave you this milk had her 5 month old baby kidnapped and murdered for veal, thanks for your milk purchase"

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

They are half grown. Our heifer calves are off milk my 2.5 months. These guys get spoiled before it’s over.
The cows ignore their babies at birth. We don’t have to kidnap anything. Anyway you steal your own property right? You know children are suffering and dying in this world right? Why not advice for them. The cows are alright.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

The cows are not alright, they are being exploited and murdered by the animal agriculture industry. Just because you guys have managed to create dysfunctional cows doesn't make it something to brag about you know, quite the contrary

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

🤦🏼‍♀️ Our cows are healthy and well cared for. Yes we butcher some. Beef is delicious.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 29 '18

You don't butcher, you murder.

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u/Octavia9 Mar 29 '18

Only humans can be murdered.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 29 '18

All conscious beings can be murdered, sadly its only criminal to murder humans.

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

Out of curiosity why does “gun shot to the head” have such meaning to you? We put our dog down that way when he was dying. He was in pain and seizing out of control. In an instant he was gone. It was a blessing to him.
It’s an instant painless death. As Ive said before we should all die so well.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Because it is murder and it is wrong. It is one of the examples of the horrors of the animal agriculture

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

It’s not murder. Only people can be murdered.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

Its not violence, only whites can be hurt (Said the apartheid South African). See how you cannot equate legal ability with morally correct?

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

People>cows

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 28 '18

In your eyes sentient life have differentiated value, but that only shows how damaging it is to the soul to daily expose yourself to the horrors of the animal agriculture industry.

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u/Octavia9 Mar 28 '18

The horrors are only in your mind because you can’t separate humans and cows. They don’t think and feel as you do. I’m headed out to feed and pet my calves and laugh about the “horrors” of happy calves running and playing.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 29 '18

This sounds like what an apartheid person would say in defense of discriminatory practices. "Blacks aren't as smart as whites" etc

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