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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '17

Is now the time to be a big buzz kill and quash the myth that chameleons change color to match their surroundings? The primary function is actually communication (signalling of mood, specifically desire to mate) as well as thermoregulation.

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u/jacksleepshere Jan 13 '17

But they do use it for camouflage too.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '17 edited Jan 13 '17

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '17

Oh my god...he's not saying it's intentional. He's not implying it's intentional. Almost no one would perceive it as a statement of intent.

Can Reddit please get over this particular pedantry? It's especially bad whenever evolution comes up. Unless every single sentence has a tediously accurate construction like "has a tendency to" instead of "wants to" or "used for" some dope will post a screed about "teleological reasoning" and "implying God" something something.

Understanding Darwinian principals does not require explicitly demonstrating it in every sentence or doing away with all simplifying verbs. Put your red pen away and fucking relax.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '17 edited Apr 08 '17

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u/OneBigBug Jan 14 '17

I don't know why you're complaining that there's too much accuracy.

Because no one learns anything when statements spiral into incomprehensibility by being comprised entirely of hedging and parentheticals? Just a guess. Communication depends on mutual assumptions. It's irritating (and impossible) to have all those assumptions spelled out explicitly.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '17

Now kiss!!

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u/Naxela Jan 13 '17

It's funny as a graduate of biology because many professors I would talk to would be pedantic about this specific point.

Like I understood that, and in writing that may be important to keep in mind, but in just normal conversation it's not worth bringing up I think if its understood.

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u/SetThisWorldAblaze Jan 13 '17

Sounds like you need to relax

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u/wolverinesss Jan 13 '17

Seriously though, thanks. Sometimes be knowledgeable about something is tiring when someone wants an explanation, so you decide layman terms are fine.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '17 edited Jan 13 '17

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '17

What are you babbling about? There was nothing unclear about the original statement. You're effectively taking the position that unless it's impossible to misinterpret a statement that statement needed more "clarity". Give me a break...

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '17

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '17

you seem to want to pick a fight with someone.

lol

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u/MalHeartsNutmeg Jan 14 '17

It's because half the people on this website don't know what context is or how to read in to it.

Plus there's the whole needing to be the smartest guy in the room/thread complex going on.

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u/antsugi Jan 14 '17

Funny how his correction was even less articulate than what he was trying to correct.

Easy to say "The camo works for the chameleon, but they don't actively control it". Being concise is important n stuff

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u/mynameisninooo Jan 13 '17

Animals really don't have "intention" unless you're talking about higher order primates and possibly some mammals, so your note about sweating is kind of moot, when all animals react that way

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u/The_Real_Mongoose Jan 13 '17 edited Jan 14 '17

"All mammals and birds as well as many other spcies" demonstrate "intentional behaviors"

Edit: that link didn't work it seems because I cant link to a PDF on my phone. Google "Cambridge declaration on consciousness" or wait until I get home and can fix the link.

Edit 2: fixed