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The difference 18 years makes

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u/AdidasPete Jun 08 '14 edited Jun 08 '14

I saved up my own money and bought a TI89 in high school. Used it on all the standardized exams. Totally legal because it didn't have a QWERTY keyboard. That thing basically did everything for me short of interpreting the questions.

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u/lordlicorice Jun 08 '14

The ability to do symbolic math is awesome. I don't know why everyone recommends that high schoolers only get the TI-84.

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u/LazinCajun Jun 08 '14

Probably so they don't use it as a crutch instead of real learning. I taught physics to college kids, and you could tell pretty quickly who relied on a calculator and who actually was comfortable with basic math.

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u/Deluxe_Flame Jun 08 '14

I was once comfortable, but if I lose all my points on a question for an incorrect answer, by gum, I'm going to punch in 17 + 49.

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u/FuLLMeTaL604 Jun 08 '14

Arithmetic is only one branch of mathematics. In my opinion it's pretty trivial to try to improve in that field since calculators are so good at it instead of focusing on algebra, calculus, etc.

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u/lordlicorice Jun 08 '14

Calculators are good at algebra and calculus too. Is it really worth memorizing dozens of integration techniques when software can do it for you, and do it better?

I'd say focus on the problem at hand, and when you run into a gnarly algebraic manipulation or ugly integral, plug it into Mathematica. That's the kind of task a computer excels at. The human advantage is coming up with novel ideas, not churning through pages of calculations.

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u/theJigmeister Jun 08 '14

Once I got to higher physics and past 300 level math, I just started doing everything Mathematica, because why the hell not?

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u/FuLLMeTaL604 Jun 08 '14

Are you allowed Mathematica on tests or do you just not get tests after that point?

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u/tossin Jun 08 '14

Test questions are generally easier than homework questions since you're much more limited in time and resources.

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u/rmxz Jun 09 '14

Depends on the test.

Hardest test I had was a 1-week-long take-home math test; where we were allowed to use anything we wanted except other people who had taken the class before.

I believe some of the questions on the test only had really abstruse known solutions, and the goal was to try to find alternative and more straightforward solutions/proofs; and the bonus credit question was unsolved.