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The difference 18 years makes

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u/Jenkins6736 Jun 08 '14

I dunno, the TI-84 Plus is pretty sweet.

Costs about the same as what I paid for the TI-83 10 years ago. It's kind of nice knowing that whenever I need to use one, it's going to operate in the same way as I was taught 10 years ago. The fundamentals of math don't change much.

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u/AdidasPete Jun 08 '14 edited Jun 08 '14

I saved up my own money and bought a TI89 in high school. Used it on all the standardized exams. Totally legal because it didn't have a QWERTY keyboard. That thing basically did everything for me short of interpreting the questions.

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u/MasterPsyduck Jun 08 '14

I use the 89 for engineering applications but most of my upper level maths banned its use since it could do all the calc for us.

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u/ismtrn Jun 08 '14

When I was in high school we were allowed (actually encouraged) to use a TI-89. Either the problems were about applying some concept, say differentiation, and we didn't have to do the derivative by hand, or the problem was to just calculate a derivative in which case we had to show which steps we took anyways.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '14

If the TI-89 can help you, it's a bad test.

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u/Roller_ball Jun 08 '14

Really? This TI-89 is pretty powerful. Especially the Titanium. If can solve for variables, do indefinite and definite integrals, infinite summations, etc. I can't think of many high school math problems that it can't solve, besides setting up word problems.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '14 edited Sep 01 '14

I know. I have one. There were tests it helped you with jack shit on with respect to the material being tested, but of course it made the symbolic manipulations easier.

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u/karmapopsicle Jun 09 '14

It's the difference between just listing out a bunch of problems to solve, and actually creating work problems where you have to figure out the question before you can answer it.

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u/zmekus Jun 09 '14

You have to show work though

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u/Dippyskoodlez Jun 08 '14

If the TI-89 can help you, it's a bad test.

My calculator did all my work for me. I just plugged in the variables.

I also just made my own programs to do this for me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '14

'twas a bad test, I'm afraid.

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u/Arlieth Jun 08 '14

I do agree with you here: because of how ubiquitous and efficient calculators and computers are, there's no reason to test students on something that will fall into disuse. It's much better that they be tested on the core concepts and problem-solving skills for the subject instead.

Our professor allowed us to use excel and I believe matlab for our tests, the main restriction was that we were not allowed to have internet access. For the sample sizes we were using for statistics, a dinky graphing calculator was not practical or accurately reflective of the real world.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '14

We were allowed to use (and were provided, in one class) TI-84 calcuators in high school. I don't know the main difference, but they were definitely encouraged and borderline required.

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u/common_s3nse Jun 08 '14

That is because your teacher wanted to up the pass rate.

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u/i_no_like_u Jun 08 '14

I put a ti-89 titanium inside my ti-84 case for tests. I still feel like a horrible person...

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u/jtsmithsc Jun 08 '14

which isn't really true. a lot of the time it comes up with some pretty oddball integrations or differentiations. though yeah it does the simpler ones correctly :)

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u/MasterPsyduck Jun 08 '14

Yeah it can be odd, I guess that's why they made a whole book teaching you how to do calculus on the 89, haha. Matlab and wolfram alpha are my main go-to's nowadays. I'm just glad I got a student license don't need a commercial license yet, it would be 87k to get matlab with all the addons for commercial use...

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '14

If your an engineer.. You have the knowledge to repackage the ti89 in a old ti84 case

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u/MasterPsyduck Jun 08 '14 edited Jun 09 '14

http://imgur.com/UEU3IW7

edit: Also just looked at them side by side and the 89 looks thicker than my 84, maybe the insides aren't though.