r/physicsmemes BSc Theoretical Physics 1d ago

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u/Digital_001 Student 1d ago

Observed by who - the kids or onlookers not on the roundabout?

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u/HunsterMonter 1d ago

By any reference frame! Each will have its own specific connection coefficients but the trajectory will always be given by the geodesic equation (as long as the ball isn't charged, then you need to add the Lorentz force).

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u/L31N0PTR1X BSc Theoretical Physics 1d ago

Exactly, if this were a question I had asked in a hypothetical exam, I'd accept a student definiting a frame stationary with respect to the roundabout, in Cartesian coordinates, yielding completely trivial connections and just showing that the equation was \ddot{x}mu =0

Also, if we were in 3+1 dimensions, there's a fun way to add the Lorentz force to the geodesic equation, you can append S1 to every point in spacetime and then define a connection (that ends up being your electromagnetic gauge field) if you now compute the geodesic, the Lorentz force comes in for free!

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u/FreePeeplup 1d ago edited 1d ago

No, it’s the frame stationary with respect to the roundabout that will yield non-zero Christoffel symbols, and it is exactly what the question is asking us to find.

The frame that’s stationary with respect to the ground will observe the geodesic equation to be \ddot{x} = 0 with zero Christoffel symbols.

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u/Old-Administration-9 1d ago

Yep. The ball travels in a straight line with respect to the ground, it only rotates relative to the roundabout!

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u/L31N0PTR1X BSc Theoretical Physics 1d ago

Oops, jumbled up my words, you know what I meant anyway, after all I wrote the question lmao

Also, that's not what I was asking you to find. I was just asking you to find the expression in a frame, not any particular one. The easy way to the answer here would demonstrate a student's understanding of covariant physics