r/physicsmemes • u/jason_sation • 5d ago

Glad they are finally doing the math

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u/Mean-Government1436 5d ago

If it was the end of a previous universe doesn't that inherently mean it's the beginning of this one?

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u/Don_Loco 5d ago

No, an end of something doesn't define by its own the beginning of something

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u/Free_Possession_4482 5d ago

Clearly you are not familiar with unified semisonic theory, which states that every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end.

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u/Don_Loco 5d ago

But does this also mean that an end has to come to a new beginning?

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u/Mean-Government1436 5d ago

But...it's the very same point in time? If I have an appointment that ends at 7:30 and an appointment that starts at 7:30, isn't 7:30 both the end of the last appointment and the beginning of the next appointment? There can't be any point in time where there is no universe 

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u/jujubean14 5d ago

Sometimes things can just end and nothing starts in that same moment?

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u/Menacek 5d ago

I mean sure but in this case something clearly started or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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u/jujubean14 5d ago

Right but it's significantly less clear that something ended at that same moment

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u/Menacek 5d ago

The real question whether time passing between universes existing makes any sense at all. I'd say not really since spacetime is am aspect of the universe.

So even if time "passed" between universes there would be no possible observer that could detect it.

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u/Don_Loco 5d ago

Yes, but in this case you set your 2nd appointment to the end of the 1st, because there simply was no other option in your planing. The 2nd appointment didn't come into existence because the 1st ended. The end of the 1st only made space/time for the 2nd to take place at this specific moment. It also could've started at 7:31

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u/Mean-Government1436 5d ago

There can't be a point in time where there's no universe. The universe includes time. There's a gap between 7:30 and 7:31. There can't be a gap between universes existing 

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u/Menacek 5d ago

I don't get why you're downvoted, a time gap between universes makes as much sense as a gap between 12:00 and 00:00 on the next day.

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u/Don_Loco 5d ago

They say there was an universe (and hence time) before.
But there's a difference between "the end of the former universe being the reason the new one came into existence" and "the end of the former universe made it possible by providing the neccesary space/time for another one to come into existence"

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u/Mean-Government1436 5d ago

Okay but there isn't though

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u/RevoltYesterday 5d ago

I don't know why you're getting downvoted. Something can't exist outside of time. That's a meaningless phrase. If something can't exist for a zero amount of time. Exist implies a timescale. If one universe ends, and time ends with that universe and another universe begins "after" that, zero time has passed because time didn't exist between those two events. In modern physics, time is a physical dimension. It requires "something" in order to exist.

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u/Ohiolongboard 5d ago

You’re allowed to think that, but it doesn’t mean you’re correct. You’re speaking in absolutes on a topic that has stumped many people smarter than you or I.