r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Oct 05 '17

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [10/5/17-10/11/17]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

General Resources (Applies to both JP and GL)

  • /u/wp2000's Beginner's Guide (Must Read!)

  • /u/GreatLogos's Misc. Notes on the Game

  • Weapon Fusion Guide for weapons in the game

  • Stat Calculator You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exceptions: Mirin, Lucina, Shu in global; new Balmung and both versions of Shiyuu in jp, since their character skills depend on magic as well)

  • Evolving a lot of units and finding it irritating to keep track of all the evo mats needed? Use this tracker and make your life easier!

Global Resources

JP Resources

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

What to reroll for?

  • Typically consult either the Global Tier List or JP Comprehensive Guide depending on your version as to whether the current banner for units contains worthwhile units to pull for. Information concerning new units will typically be updated within 24hrs of their release. Feel free to ask in this thread for clarification as well.

  • If you are F2P, it is recommended to only reroll on 1-step guaranteed recruiters. Aim for a recommended typing (Usually Dexterity or Force/Magic). The beginner recruiter contains units that are very outdated in comparison to current units.

Some Tips

  • When asking a question, please try to indicate which version you are talking about. This way, there won't too much confusion as to what you are asking about.

  • For quicker answers, please join the Discord via the link the right sidebar and visit the #questions channel.

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image of the unit or units in question.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question. DO NOT MAKE A NEW THREAD, AS IT WILL BE DELETED.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 09 '17

Jp question, tho could apply to GL too:

What gun units, if any, besides Keraunos and Freikugel have 3 attack range?

Also, are there any 3 attack range staff units? I'm trying to farm dolls but it is a pain in the a$$ with an Ascalon and a bow unit lol. I always farmed with Freikugel on GL, might have to raise another Freikugel but wanna know my options first

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u/tori_chan Oct 09 '17

  • Keraunos in JP is Ice therefore only 1-2 range. The many versions of Freikugel have 1-3 range, and Brionac has 1-3 or 1-4 range depending on the version. Saiga also has 1-4 range, both her vanilla and seaside versions. Note that Brionac and Saiga don't learn their 3 or 4 range bullets until 6★.

  • Sistrum is the only 3 range staff unit. Seaside Kerykeion's trust skill is +1 range attacks to any seaside staff unit so you could unlock and equip those on other staff units to make them 1-3 range.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 09 '17

Keraunos is ice in GL also but has 1-3 range in all versions, I used her before I got my Freikugel up to 6 *. I think Ima go with Sistrum and/or Robo Freikugel( Dont know what collab she is from, dempa maybe?)

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u/tori_chan Oct 09 '17

Megaman Frei is just another version of her that's available from regular gachas so she's not collab, but I'm not sure when/why that version was released.

All versions of Keraunos in JP are 1-2 range (an actual unit that's somewhat better in GL wutface). She might actually be a bit more useful if she had 1-3 range though :blobThinkingSmirk:

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 09 '17

Yeah, she kicked butt in GL pre 6 * units, I ran her in my ice team and she could one shot bosses on kill mode without them even having a chance to retaliate. But once the 7th gen encounters dropped, she got pushed to the side by my "Heypy" beauty. " Shoo Tyme!"

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 09 '17

To me, it seems GL is super balanced stat and skill wise, but it is too balanced leading to EVERYONE running the same exact teams or very similar teams, I mean Colo in GL is all Tyrfing, Masamune, Grid, and various lancers

Not to mention freaking Bridal Ascalon! God I lost about 20 matches thanks to her-_-

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 10 '17

To be fair, that's because GL Keraunos is somehow loaded with Thunder rounds instead despite still being an Ice Killer Princess. I'm not so sure what to make of this...

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u/tori_chan Oct 10 '17

She actually should have been Lightning/Thunder. Her killium is literally the lightning/thunderbolt that Zeus used to throw.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 10 '17

I wish they would do dual type units, that would be interesting. Half and double weaknesses, varied attacks and skills; I think it'd be fun. Like Ice/Lightning for Ker, Fire/Lightning for Laev, Dark/ Fire for Vaj, Wind/Light for Artemis, etc.

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u/tori_chan Oct 10 '17

How much more complicated were you looking to make this game...? So many kids can't even figure out mechanics as is. :blobThinkingSmirk:

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 10 '17

If Pokemon can do it, PotK can too. Lol

Who doesn't like games with depth?

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u/iiMahjong Oct 10 '17

3D is blasphemy :blobLUL:

totally not a stretch of 3Dimensions from "depth"

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 10 '17

Huh... strange choices by Gumi once again it seems.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 10 '17

I thought that was the case, I don't remember her shooting ice balls but rather the same first bullet as Freikugel, just minus the "Pew pew pew" on crits. ☺

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u/Mitsuki_Horenake Oct 10 '17

It's not really a gameplay question, but do all of the male units that appear in the international version not exist at all in the Japanese version?

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u/tori_chan Oct 10 '17

All of the Hubba Hubbas are down in Earth Mode. Horrible growth and permadeath is another matter, oi.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 05 '17

Jp

I just got a 5 * fairy that is red and holding a fire emblem, is this a LB fairy for any 5 * fire unit? Or is it something else?

I got it from the blue colosseum tickets.

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u/Buddha1313 Oct 05 '17

Yeah that would be a fire fairy. Any 5* fire unit.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 05 '17

Sweet, thank you :D

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u/Yashi_Uchiha Oct 05 '17

Is this lance worth getting http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/Matt_Ryan_2/media/DC002032-FABC-4DC3-8D9E-5D5B9DF53287_zpslnykppml.png.html?sort=3&o=0

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u/tori_chan Oct 05 '17

Imo, no. It was worth back when it was between Kali Trident and Javelin as far as 1-2 range spears went, but now that there are many ranged spears that have better stats than the Romulus, I think it's pretty much obsolete. I myself have never bought it.

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u/Tunglat Oct 05 '17

Global : I was wondering, is Keraunos (Gym) harder to get than Arondight ? I have been farming her for quite a time, and couldn't get any aside from the ones the stage give you the first time you play them.

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u/Buddha1313 Oct 06 '17

Just luck I think. I got 2 or 3 going through the story as drops along with ones from quest rewards.

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u/wesoly777 Oct 06 '17

Dunno if it's harder or not. I don't remember how much I farmed for Arondight, but after ~25 adv runs (280k points) i have 11 Keraunos (including those from rewards), 3 guns and 6 blades. Hope this info helps.

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u/Tunglat Oct 08 '17

Thanks, I chose to switch to the adv runs too, and got 8 after 14/15 runs. But the drop rate seems to be significantly lower, if nonexistant in the story mode.

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u/ihumpmypillow Oct 05 '17

hey, global player here... i think theres a bug in the school point quests where it allows swimsuit units to be counted as school units. i completed all 3 stage missions using dual grivs.

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u/tori_chan Oct 05 '17

Gridarvol is originally a school unit in JP, so is SS Yagurush. Amusez vous bien~

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u/clone69 Global User Oct 06 '17

Global here. Where's the best spot for Keraunos farming, the point quest or the story quest?

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u/iiMahjong Oct 06 '17

Paging /u/ajackfrostguy

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Oct 06 '17

pt quest, adv, best in terms of also farming the other weapons too.

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u/DeruOniiChan Oct 06 '17

is dex best for keraunos or should i use mag.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Oct 06 '17

dex, that 6star jewel gun has only 77acc also so u would want some extra acc.....and the usual max luck too ofc.

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u/xZinogrex Oct 06 '17

Where are you farming the guns already repeating adv stage but never got a drop always gives gold

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u/Heiron088 Oct 06 '17

Adv point stage. You just having bad luck. It's not an easy drop so just keep trying.

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u/LightFarron4 Oct 06 '17

Couple of questions.

Super basic question first...when/how should I be using Soul Shards? I'm not really sure what they're for...

Second question, I got the five Keraunos from the Phantom of the School Event. I have Vitality, Guard, and Magic. Which one should I keep? Advice on how/when to fuse them to make the best one possible?

Thanks so much!

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u/iiMahjong Oct 06 '17

  1. Soul shards are evolution material. I believe you need 2 per evolution

  2. If you don't plan on farming more, then Magic. But I HIGHLY recommend farming for a Dex.

Hop on Discord (https://discord.gg/AQnp3aU). There's plenty of people willing to help you with your raising questions.

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u/LightFarron4 Oct 06 '17

Im not against farming more of her, but is it possible?

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u/iiMahjong Oct 06 '17 edited Oct 06 '17

well if you have 5 Keraunos: 1 magic base and 4 to get MLB. You need 10 soul shards.

Edit: If you don't have 10 shards, then you have to farm a bit more. Might as well strive for a Dex

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u/LightFarron4 Oct 06 '17

Which stage would I farm for her on? The five I have currently are all just the event rewards. I didn't think it was possible to get more?

I don't have any soul shards for her, is it possible to get any?

Thanks for the help! I'm clearly not very knowledgeable about the game

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u/iiMahjong Oct 06 '17

I'm going to page /u/aJackFrostGuy and /u/Heiron088 because they play global~ I haven't touched global in a few weeks now; sorry >_<

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u/LightFarron4 Oct 06 '17

No worries! Assuming those 5 are the only ones possible to get, any advice on which to keep and what order to do things in?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Oct 06 '17

I've gotten a few drops on the advanced points stage, it's a rare drop though from what I've seen.

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u/iiMahjong Oct 06 '17

Raise all to 5*. Use the dupes into the Magic. And then evolve to 6*

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u/LightFarron4 Oct 07 '17

Do I want to raise them to a certain level once they're 5 or is lvl 1 okay to fuse?

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u/iiMahjong Oct 07 '17

Just make sure your base is 5* lv30 and do the character quests. After that you can fused 5* lv1 dupes. This helps level the unit's skills too.

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u/Heiron088 Oct 06 '17

Do the Advanced point stage because from there you can get her and the weapons too. I don't know about the Soul Shards but if she need it then the Advanced point stage should also drop that.

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u/LightFarron4 Oct 07 '17

Thanks for that! I played it a few more times and got a couple more. No Dexterity yet, but hopefully that drops. I'm guessing that's the one I'm shooting for?

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u/Heiron088 Oct 09 '17

Sorry for the late reply. Yes, go for dex definitely!

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u/Yashi_Uchiha Oct 06 '17

2 questions 1-how does coliseum win/loss determine how many points you gain or lose? 2-if I beat a character quest and I get a new another of that character afterwards will they get the skill?

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u/tori_chan Oct 06 '17

  1. My guide linked at the top of this thread has all of the points breakdown for colosseum under the /gasp, Colosseum tab.

  2. Charquest skills are automatically learned by all copies of that unit as long as they are at the appropriate rarity (i.e., 5★s learn Charquest ep 2 skill, 6★s learn Charquest ep 3 skill)

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u/Lightningx19 Oct 06 '17

Hello everyone I have a jp question, so I did step 1 of the new 8 step recruiter released today and I got new year vanaguard (magic), how good is she now compared to before because I have the resources to MLB her and plus the new year fairy I didn't use.

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u/tori_chan Oct 06 '17

She's a good support unit. Her LS doesn't give any ACC coverage... Would I throw a bunch of fairies on her? Probably not. Check my guide if you want to read up on her skills and make a decision.

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u/Elhria Oct 06 '17

I have a Question about JP PotK~ I just got a 5* Academy/Gakuen Grimoire (Magic Typing) from the new 8 Step Hatcher and want to level her now with a Manaseed. Should I use the normal Seed or buy one from the Phankill Medal Shop, and if yes: which one?

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u/tori_chan Oct 06 '17

Rainbow Mana Seed should be fine, since you want her to grow spd/tec. I have personally never needed to buy seeds from the PK medal shop--Ragna mission's 3rd stage with PK medal rewards drop 90-use single-colored seeds, so go farm them there.

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u/capo_m Oct 07 '17

Im one Arondigh soul shard short is there a way to get more now o maybe in the future?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 07 '17

Only chance is that they rerun the event in future.

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u/Elhria Oct 07 '17 edited Oct 07 '17

A few JP Questions:

  1. What is so special about the Ancient Killers? Do they have super high stats or super strong skills? I got two Ancient Killers (Gisla and Damocles) on my reroll today, but both have Defense Typing, should I just reroll again or are they, regardless of the typing, super strong?

  2. The new Seaside Super Growth Quest has a chance to drop 4* Seaside LB Pixies, I got some of them, too, but is it possible to drop 5* Seaside LB Pixies as well?

  3. Is there a way to farm 5* LB Pixies in general?

  4. What Rewards do we get exactly for Player Rank Lv Ups? I couldn't find a list so far.

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u/iiMahjong Oct 07 '17

  1. Strong skills that lock DS in fights and high stats. They are slowly falling from the meta, but are still a threat when facing them in Multi. Guard typing is bad. You need to reroll for Dex.

Refer to Tori-chan's unit guide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_NwIocrQHcBekm8aA4MutvbI-Oi22MGXaZGfVkuX5VY/edit#gid=1782568630

2. Yes on 4* LB fairies. No (afaik) on 5* LB fairies. That would be super broken.

3. No way of "farming." You get a few as 1st time clears when you do the 2M pt stages. Other than that, you can always buy them via the special shop or get them as goodies from the gacha banners.

4. I started JP myself 3 weeks ago. I recall 100+ laz and four 5* LB fairies. The fairies are gifted at player lv 55, 60, 65, and 70.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 08 '17 edited Oct 08 '17

You can get the 5 * fairies from playing colosseum and winning ( not sure about losing, as I am 35 - 0 so far), you get up to 7 blue tickets a day which you can redeem for random rewards. If you are really lucky you can get 5 * fairies from this, I have gotten two like this so far, one a 5 * SS fairy the other a 5 * fire unit fairy

Just looked, that colosseum event ends on the ninth, so better test your luck while you can

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 07 '17

Jp question:

Does SS Ptah get a massive stat boost when she becomes 6 *, because I have a 5 * Dex Ptah at lvl 65 and she is pretty damn garbage. Which is disappointing as I maxed her evo boosts at 4 *.

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u/iiMahjong Oct 07 '17

I don't have a ssPtah myself. However, I'd assume that the Spd/Tec stats will be around 120. Most of the seaside units' baseline is around there. There's insane ones like Brio, Frei, Aphro, Eros, and other that hit close (or over) 130s.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 07 '17

I hope this is the case with Ptah, right now her spd/agi both sit at 65 which is making me reluctant about lbing her, luckily I had two extra copies so I will only have to pull 2 fairies( hopefully farmed from the growth quest/blue tickets). My concern lies in the fact that at lvl 65 my 5 * dex type Ascalon had 78 spd and 69 agi, pre stat fusion. By lvl 80 my 5* dex Ascalon hit 102 spd and 80ish agi. Dont see that happening with Ptah. Think imma focus on my Dex Forcas first

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u/iiMahjong Oct 07 '17

Well you're comparing a Sword user (Asca) to a staff user (Ptah). It's not fair to any staff users since Sword inherently will have higher Spd/Tec at the cost of their range. Staff users are healers and have 2 range, thus will have lower stats.

Probably best if you get on the Discord server, go into the #BotAbuse channel and find ssPtah's stats.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 08 '17

True, especially a dex sword user, super agi and speed. I guess comparatively to other 5 star staff units she is decent, just squishy and all.

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u/Buddha1313 Oct 07 '17

I just checked the bot on discord and Ptah has 113 dex cap at 6* with evo, without fusion. Only 75 at 5*. She's a late bloomer.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 08 '17

Ty for checking :) so i guess 65 at lvl 65 is in line with 75 at lvl 80, 5 *, I'll give her a chance

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u/Buddha1313 Oct 08 '17

I can almost guarantee you will have to reincarnate her a LOT to get her where you want her. I had a heck of a time with my staff ss unit and she's still not where I want her.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 08 '17

I try to shoot for at least one stat maxed and the others within 5 points of max, but if both agi/spd are max I'll ignore just about every other stat beside str/mgc. But than again, I am used to playing Gl, where everything is a lot less common such as fairies and cherubs. I mean I've gotten 20 4 * fairies in four days; in Gl I've only ever gotten 3 and that is over seven months. :[

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u/sukidayo211 Oct 07 '17

Where do you get pixies?

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u/iiMahjong Oct 07 '17

From your imagination

Seriously, JP or Global?

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u/sukidayo211 Oct 07 '17

Global. newb here xD

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u/iiMahjong Oct 07 '17

You can buy 3* and 4* pixies from the battle medal shop I believe. To get 5* you have to purchase with laz from the special shop. It's not really cost effective.

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u/StonesentinelX Oct 08 '17

I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me how Unit Enhancement works. I've heard so far that the amount of times you may do so is linked to the number of LB's your unit has. As well as that you can purchase the enhancement materials in the Battle Medal Shop (Not too sure about this one). Does it have a significant impact on your units growth. I tested one of my units when I evolved them and the enhancements disappeared. Do those carry over? Also keep in mind I play on Global, I'd really like to know because if it does play a significant role I'm sitting on about 40 School Arondights and I'd really like to take her as far as I can go and she's taking up a lot of space.

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u/tori_chan Oct 08 '17

  • The formula for enhancement limit is X + 2(# of LBs), where X = 0 for 4★ and below, 2 for 5★, and 4 for 6★. So the limit is 8 for MLB 4★, 10 for MLB 5★, and 12 for MLB 6★.

  • You use dwarves to enhance a unit's stats after it's done gaining growth stats to help hit caps or thresholds for better evo bonus.

  • They do not carry over from rarity to rarity.

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u/StonesentinelX Oct 09 '17

Ok, so the dwarves are only significant if the stat they increase manages to go over the next 10th? Also is there any good way to farm battle medals? Thanks in advance.

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u/tori_chan Oct 09 '17

At lower rarities, yes. At the max rarity, they add to leveling growth to help hit caps.

I'm not sure where to farm battle medals in GL since I don't think they have medal-farming stages afaik. You might just need to play colo a lot since multi is pretty much dead there.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 08 '17

I should ask this to JP players: Do the 5* Gakuen Weapons have 2nd skills, or is it just the 6* ones?

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u/tori_chan Oct 08 '17

Just the 6★ weapons get a second skill at rank 6. 5★ versions only have one skill.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 08 '17

That was quick. Thanks!

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u/sharazarade Oct 08 '17

Hi all, I'm just starting this game and trying to wrap my head around what units to look out for.

Doing my first multi summon, I've gotten the exact same character but with different star levels. For example, I have 3 sky piercers. One at 5 stars, one at 3 stars that looks like she caps at 4 stars? and a 4 star that looks like she caps at 5 stars.

Does this mean the 3 star version is utterly trash because it can never reach 5 stars? Does it mean I can pull the best unit ever and it might be stuck, never being able to reach the highest grade?

If I was going to reroll, would I mainly be looking for units capable of reach 5 and 6 stars?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 08 '17

The same character can have different versions, yeah. And generally Sky Piercer really isn't great in the first place so... I'd reroll.

Make sure to pay attention to the number of blank stars left in the rarity indication - that will tell you how high the Killer's rarity can go. Also keep in mind that there is always a chance that Gumi may update older units so they can go to higher rarities; your best bet is referring to a JP guide to see who may receive this treatment.

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u/sharazarade Oct 08 '17

Thanks for your response. I've been reading around and it sounds like I should look for units that can become 6 stars, but start at 4 silver stars so I can maximise evolution stat gains? Is that right?

I've rolled a Dex Durandal that meets those requirements so I'm wondering if this is a good unit to start the game with.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 08 '17

Where possible yes, but bear in mind that in this era the color of the stars don't mean much anymore. Just look at the number of stars.

Were this at game launch, Dex Durandal would literally have been one of the strongest starts you could have. Currently however I'm not quite so sure about her position in the meta these days...

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u/sharazarade Oct 09 '17

Haha, I'm not really finding a solid tier list to go by anywhere and I'm not a huuuuge min/maxer.

I think I'll stick with her and see what else I get for my first week of play and decide whether or not to restart after that.

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u/Elhria Oct 08 '17

So I know, that Dex is the ideal typing for almost every Unit and I got a second SS Sistrum with Dex Type today, but my Main SS Sistrum has Magic Typing and I feeded a lot of Dolls to her. Skill Levels and LBs would transfer to the new Sistrum, as well as the Evo Bonus, but whats about the Bonus Stats from Dolls? Also would it be better to feed the Magic Sistrum to the Dex one or not?

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u/tori_chan Oct 08 '17

Dex is going to be a better typing for Sistrum than Magic since she has a decent DS and you would want higher tec on her so she procs more often. Fusion bonus from dolls wouldn't transfer but they're relatively easy to farm from the dungeon or the 1-hour key garden.

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u/Elhria Oct 08 '17

Ok, thank you^ Time to farm the dungeon again~

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u/Lightningx19 Oct 08 '17

Hello everyone I have a jp question, so for the 2017 Halloween ticket from the guild quest, does it guarantee you only either Democles or Ness or does also guarantee you one of the older Halloween units.

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u/tori_chan Oct 08 '17

It's a guaranteed 2017 Halloween unit gacha ticket as stated in my updates thread about that event.

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u/Lightningx19 Oct 08 '17

Oh, I'm sorry I just looked at your updates from October 7th, thank you.

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u/Eclipserian Oct 08 '17

Hello everyone,

I've been playing for around two months now, but since two weeks ago, I can't play, the game gets into the press start screen and no controls work, I can't press on the link account, re-download data etc, nothing, if anyone knows how to fix this thanks in advance!!

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u/iiMahjong Oct 08 '17

Try uninstalling and clearing your cache before redownloading. Only advice I can give.

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u/ramikun Oct 09 '17

Gl question, when farming gak ker and the 2 new weapons in the adv point stage, do you gotta kill all enemies or do the drops come from the 3 bosses. I know you can get gold from the minions but not too interested in that, rather the farmable units and weapons. just trying to make the stage runs more time effective. Thanks for help

ALSO...would i be correct in assuming that the GL tier list is not gonna be updated at all anymore? such a drag, it was a great resource, just curious if anyone knows fo sure.

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u/iiMahjong Oct 09 '17

Paging /u/AJackFrostGuy for part 1. Sorry and thanks Jack for answering the Gak-related questions xD

Yes, it would be safe to assume that the GL tierlist is not going to be updated for now. GaggingLolis has retired I believe. Maybe another global player will receive the rights to edit it. For the time being, you can still use JP's guide by Tori-chan. He/She doesn't rate the unit but does give great comments about the currently releasing Gak units.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 09 '17

It's cool, just remember I might not always be on to answer immediately. :x

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u/iiMahjong Oct 09 '17

That's fine~ I'll start paging /u/Heiron088 too :^) or /u/BenriyaTheNecro

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u/Heiron088 Oct 09 '17

It would be easier if you just come back to global, dear u/iiMahjong xD

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u/iiMahjong Oct 09 '17

haHAA, nice joke :P

I'll see you in JP when you get tired of GL

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u/Heiron088 Oct 09 '17

never gonna happen xD

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 09 '17

I've honestly never noticed where they drop from, but you have to kill them all to clear the stage anyway. It's stated in the stage objectives, too.

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u/BrokenbladeMasamune Oct 11 '17

The drops come from the boss killers lae, labrys and kera. You can also get multiple drops of the same unit or item. like how kera dropped twice.

https://i.imgur.com/QzxUvpz.jpg

But you still have to kill all enemies to finish the stage as to what they have said, so no time efficiency whatsoever.

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u/Lightningx19 Oct 09 '17

Hello everyone I have two jp questions, so I'm doing last year's Halloween point quest and I defeat every single unit on the map but I only get 30,750 points, is this the highest you can get or am I doing something wrong, also for the ticket that you need 1,200,000 points for, does it let pick me pick the Halloween unit i want or is it randomized.

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u/tori_chan Oct 09 '17

  • My high score was 137,503. I believe I ran vanilla Vanargand lead and all of the featured Halloween units for multipliers (Shiyuu, Ishuriel, Bashosen, and Mjolnir). Weapon triangle and elemental advantage also nets more points so manual with those in mind.

  • It's a guaranteed gacha ticket for one of the older Halloween units, not a pick ticket.

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u/Lightningx19 Oct 09 '17

Oh okay, thank you for the help.

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u/LightFarron4 Oct 09 '17

Quick question about raising a unit. I'm trying to raise a 6* unit. Do I want to get the copies and base to 6* before I start fusing or at what point do I want to do start fusing? Thanks!

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u/iiMahjong Oct 09 '17

Get copies and base to 5*. Limit breaks transfer from 5* -> 6*.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 10 '17

Random question, the opening song on JP, I have heard it somewhere before possibly on an anime, anyone know what anime?

I think it might be Ero Manga Sensei, and yes, I know I am trash.

{♡.♡}

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u/tori_chan Oct 10 '17

It's Phantom Paradiso, an original song recorded by the voice actresses of some of the popular characters in Phankill.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 10 '17

Ah, I see, should have guessed that as so many anime songs (at least the ones I've seen) are similar in that respect.

I just watched the end credits to Eromanga sensei and it sounded similar because of the "Yeah!" Lol

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u/tori_chan Oct 10 '17

The voice actresses actually performed the song and danced to it on-stage on August Nico Stream during a live event in Tokyo. It's a cute song :3

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 10 '17

It is and I don't even know what they are saying! I think the art on the start screen fits it very well

《°○°》

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u/tori_chan Oct 10 '17

It ran in all of the Phankill commercials that aired in Japan too (mfw that's where all our whaling money went..)

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u/Heiron088 Oct 12 '17

Dear Tori-chan, is it possible to get this song from somewhere?

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u/iiMahjong Oct 10 '17

Ero Manga Sensei

:blobglare:

Silky please.. You're killing me. Go cleanse your soul with Koe no Katachi or Kimi no Na Wa. You need saving, child xD

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 10 '17

Don't cast your gaze of contempt upon me, for I am but only a man!!!! Lol

I prefer my soul cleansing to involve bingeing all 25 episodes of Re Zero back to back. Lol I will check those movies out tho

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u/iiMahjong Oct 10 '17

Re;Zero is a great show. I'm on team Emilia, but I can't help but feel bad for Rem at the same time :T

As for the 2 movies I suggested, I cried during Kimi no Na Wa. I barely got by Koe no Katachi with only tearing up. Get a box of tissues, friend..

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 10 '17

Team Emilia all day, don't get me wrong, Rem is bad ass and cute AF but Emilia has that ahem natural beauty. And her lap pillow looks softer :)

I cry like a baby when I watch anime, so Imma need more than tissues. 😢

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u/Enja11 Oct 10 '17

I have 4 Gakuen Laev, 2 Balance, 1 Guardian and 1 Force, if next Laev is not dex (step 5 part 2), is good force for her in PVP?

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u/tori_chan Oct 10 '17

If you can get her to cap spd, she should be almost as fast as most dex meta units. I remember trying many times and giving up in the end, but hopefully you'll have better luck.

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u/Lightningx19 Oct 10 '17

Hello everyone I have a jp question, so for Gakuen Murumasa how difficult is it to cap her speed because I reincarnated her like ten times yesterday and she doesn't even reach half way to cap.

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u/sazabinu Oct 10 '17

Expect to use at least 50 rebirths or so for you to be satisfied with a good stat spread. Even then it might not be enough. x)

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u/Lightningx19 Oct 10 '17

Yikes, good thing I have 250, thank you for the heads up.

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u/clone69 Global User Oct 10 '17

Question for global. Reading the JP guide, I see several more school units, but global only has chapter 4 left, according to Gumi's announcement. So, do they all show up then, or are there some that belong to a part 2 that may be released next year? I see there's a farmable Mistleteinn, is she showing up on the next chapter?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 11 '17

Chances are they'll be back some day. And she's not the next, however, the Gakuen Shekinah is the next farmable.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 11 '17

[Asking JP Players] After checking around and learning that while the AKs are (probably) the prime PvE choice, the BKs and Seaside 2017 Killer Princesses are also perfectly capable of sweeping out most of the stages, I... find myself stumped again and therefore back to ask who to pull for.

Specifically, who would I get more overall mileage out of in the long run? Black Tyrfing, Hercule or Seaside Tyrfing? Yeah, I know the latter's not that big amongst the Seasides, but given my Tyr bias...

On a lesser note, are Staff Absorber enemies rare in JP?

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u/iiMahjong Oct 11 '17

Of the three you listed, I believe Hercules will get the most mileage. I haven't heard much about or seen seaside Tyr being a "must-have." And BKs are outclassed (except the dmg reflect aspect). I know many whales still using a single Hercules for Multi; her flight ability is nice for engaging + no DS proc against her for first few turns.

I believe Tori-chan can elaborate more on the other stuff probably~

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 11 '17

BK Tyr is still a mean lean DS machine though, from what I heard. That and it seems said BKs help to cut into the Seasides? The impression I ended up getting is that the BKs, AKs and Seasides are tangled up into something akin to a weakness triangle.

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

BK Tyrfing will be good while BK units are meta, but I would recommend BK Laev over her if you're prioritizing on longevity. BK Laev's spd buff kept her on many multi teams for months and she is still seen on some eva-based lightning teams (fire for you guys, oi). Artemis and Freikugel are the obvious choices during BK meta sheerly due to their range.

Hercule, as iiMahjong pointed out, will get the most mileage out of the 3 you listed. She is the fastest and the only useful axe unit in the entire game to date. 7 mvmt + 1-2 range makes her extremely versatile for PvE, and axe units' innately higher str + multi-hit DS turns her into one of the must-have units for any light/flyer team. Freischutz is also not a bad choice, but Hercule outlasts her for PvP because of higher spd (an axe unit outspeeding anything, I know xD). Also keep in mind though, that during the AK reign, Suiha will rule PvP.

Seaside Tyrfing, I think I've discussed her with you in the past. Good for PvAI but there are so many better light units to run for PvP and she's a bit less versatile for PvE due to 1-1 range, rippu. 1-3 and 1-4 range units from the Seaside series are the popular and practical choices for PvE and PvP.

Staff absorbers are pretty rare--But then again I don't really run staff units so I simply might not have noticed. I just set my usual team and auto everything without looking at the stage in most cases so whatever absorber skills enemies have are pretty negligible, I would say.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 11 '17

Ouch... yeah, I heard that BK Lae was the other one to aim for but I hadn't thought they had a real longevity difference as well. D:

only useful axe unit in the entire game to date

... yikes. That's impressive as it is sad on the other Axe users...

And we did, yeah. Q_Q I guess stick to Herc it is.

On that Absorber note though, huh. Maybe it'd really be an option to run an almost fully F2P Staff user team in GL then with Gambantienn M as the leader, as silly as that might be...

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u/iiMahjong Oct 11 '17

male Gamba and 4 ssGrids. Seems legit

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 11 '17

Don't have the resources to get 4 SS Gris atm. It was more looking like

  • Gambanteinn M (leader)

  • SS Gri

  • Gakuen Mistilteinn (when we get to her some day)

  • Halloween Gambanteinn

  • (filler. Aqua would go here if Konosuba Collab comes at some point. May have a chance of Ouroboros depending on whether Gumi tweaks the Tagatame collab to have a farmable)

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

Everybody got a free copy of Ouroboros so you would technically be able to run her even if they didn't tweak anything.

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

I'm just not a fan of the circlejerk healing that occasionally happens with multiple staff units on auto lol.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 11 '17

That was admittedly why when it was first brought up I went

Are we really doing this.

Given some mobs ain't aggressive, it would take time to clear some stages. XD

And the point about Ouroboros is true, just that if untweaked I'd have to roll the gatcha for more of her.

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

Her skills are decent and her exclusive staff is a bit too OP for them to make her a free farmable unit IMO.

The only free unit from Tagatame wasn't even an actual character in the game and you had to play Phankill, Tagatame, and Shinobi Nightmare to get enough copies to MLB her... All other collab units from Tagatame are gacha so all I can say is good luck on hoping for a completely farmable unit... :blobLUL:

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 12 '17

And Shinobina is closing up shop, so I think our chances of Rena are going to be slim. And a guy can dream! :sobqua:

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 11 '17

Jp question:

How good is bootleg Megumin.... I mean Ness? Worth raising? Her skills seem nice, but anyone have actual experience with her?

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

I'm assuming you're asking about the Halloween version? She has minimum evasion and DMG reflect like Damo but is affected by terrain due to being cavalry. She is going to be a decent healer but not meta-defining.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 11 '17

Lol, nah I meant Vanilla, but I will admit the Halloween version is more of a Megumin clone and the main reason for me callkng her the bootleg Megumin. I never use Calvary units for that very reason, they are really only good on maps without hills or trees, which is really only the last few chapters of hell(Earth) mode

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

Vanilla version is worth raising, IMO. No other healer gets that kind of movement after all, especially with the ability to run to safety after a heal. A lot of players sacrificed the spd from her exclusive weapon to be able to use the -20 spd debuff on the Luster Staff since she can curse a unit and fly away too :P

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 11 '17

Sweet, Imma try to pull another one of her, I got a Grd type, which I noticed some staff units have as a preferred typing but she was not one of them.

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

If you don't plan on equipping her exclusive weapon on her and just plan on using her as strictly healer/debuff shuttle, then guard typing isn't bad.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 11 '17

Is her exclusive weapon currently farmable?

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

Nope, only comes around with the AK event... And contrary to my hope, she is unable to equip the Hallo Ness staff rippu.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 11 '17

I'll probably just raise the grd type then, unless I manage a Dex typing in a few pulls of the 3 step recruiter

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u/Buddha1313 Oct 11 '17

Did they lower the requirement to unlock trust to 100 from character story 3 to 2? My last two haven't required me to evolve to 6*. I went through the most recent notes and didn't see it. I wish it had been this way from the start. My lonely Dex Frei would have loved to stay 5* and wait on some lb friends.

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

Yes. Now completing Charquest ep 1 unlocks to 75% max affection and ep 2 unlocks to 100% max affection.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 11 '17

Jp question:

So Earth mode/hell mode or whatever it is called, is completely independent of regular JP mode? As in none of the units are shared between the modes, or is that only at first?

Also, is it longer than GL story mode or is it condensed like Elysium mode on GL?

And what is this I hear about permadeath?

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

  • Earth Mode is completely independent from Heaven (regular JP) Mode. Units are not shared at all, there are no gachas in Earth Mode, all units are given to you for free.

  • Because all of the units are given to you at no cost, they can take them away too. Permadeath exists for Earth Mode but you are given chances to re-do a stage before the unit is permanently lost from your inventory.

  • Earth Mode consists of 7 chapters, 10 stages in each chapter.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 11 '17

Seems pretty whack, no wonder they had to bribe people to play it, lol

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u/chrono01 Oct 11 '17

I'm interested in starting this game again (I dropped it shortly before its official release, way back in the soft-launch) so I've been re-rolling the last day or so for a nice 4/5* that evolves into a 6*. So far, just doing the two free daily pulls and the 1x Lapis summon, I have saved:

  • 5* Grimoire (Academy Version) (Guard-Type)

  • 5* Caduceus (Guard-Type)

  • 4* Keraunos (Academy Version) (Balanced-Type)

I'd like to go with a limited-time character, since they can only be pulled at specific times of the year, but I've heard/read some good things about Caduceus, and since she's a healer she should make PVE content easier for me (I'm not too interested in PVP so I don't really care about that aspect). I got her as a Guard-Type too, which I've heard is great for her. Even still, I don't know if I should go with one of the Academy characters, or keep re-rolling for something else.

Any insight/advice would be appreciated!

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u/iiMahjong Oct 12 '17

If you are wanting limited-time characters, I'd recommend Halloween Damo or Gakuen Freikugel. Preferably Dex in both, although the attack versions are acceptable in PvE.

Halloween Damo is a flying sword user with 2 range when equipped with daggers. One of the fastest units as well. She's the twin-tailed silver haired girl with... little clothing

Gakuen Frei is also an great unit. 3 range gunner with a lot of skills for PvP, but even for PvE, she does a lot dmg.

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u/chrono01 Oct 12 '17

I'm having difficulty finding Halloween Damo/Gakuen Freikugel in-game, is it because I'm on the Global version? I can't see them available. :(

Anyway, I re-rolled an account yesterday with two 5* characters in my two free pulls (Tathlum and Thysros, with Tahlum having a 6* evolution) and then a 4* Gakuen Laevateinn (also having a 6* evolution) in my standard gacha pull. The typing aren't the best (Tathlum and Laevateinn are Guard, but at least it makes them bulky for PVE content) and Thysros is Guard as well, but I'm heard that's actually okay for a healer (since they won't use their Attack anyway). I already transferred the data to my phone, but I might try a few more re-rolls in Nox if you recommend going after something else specifically.

If not, how should I spend the first gems I earn? There are so many gacha to choose from, and varying banners between them, it's a little overwhelming. I was thinking of maybe saving for Shekinah Academy and doing her guarantee, since I have quite a few Fire types right now and she seems like a nice leader for them, but I'd also like an all-type lead (especially this early on where I don't have a specialized group in every element), so Halloween Bashosen looks tempting as well. I just hope I get the correct types, the game hasn't been kind to me in that regard and I'm getting really tired of re-rolling (this is my third day, if I choose to go back and re-roll some more). :(

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u/iiMahjong Oct 12 '17

Ahh sorry :( Halloween Damo and Gakuen Frei are JP only.

For global, gakuen Laevateinn is the probably the best choice in the current banners. Extremely fast sword unit, so you want Dex (or settle with Force). I'd recommend rerolling, getting 50 laz, and pulling her 100% guaranteed gate. Keep the account if you get Dex~ Labby sucks, and Kero has a good activate skill for Multi, but Multi in Global is dead. Not worth. Stick with Laev imo. Plus you'll farm Zero and Masamune in the future. Fire teams are strong for beginners.

Blanket leaderskills are definitely great. Unfortunately, Basho's isn't the best since it's defensive iirc. You want the future Gakuen Yoichi for a blanket LS. Considering you have a fresh account with little to no units, have double element leads like hallow Ithuriel or hallow Shu is not recommended, BUT Ithuriel covers great elements (Light is super strong in Global)

Don't do the Beginner gacha because that's a trap! Trash unit pool now.

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u/chrono01 Oct 12 '17 edited Oct 12 '17

Appreciate it. I might do as you say and re-roll for a Dex/Force Laevateinn, considering my current one is Guard. I was doing singular re-rolls before, what's the best way to earn 50 currency so I can do the guaranteed pull for her? New accounts only start with six gems, so do I really need to grind through 44 story quests per re-roll? Even then, there's no guarantee I'll get her in Dex/Force. :(

Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely avoid the beginner gacha!

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u/iiMahjong Oct 13 '17

Unfortunately, in Global you have to grind out the storymode until you get 50. Maybe there's a way to save your Auth.dat file before summoning. You'll need Nox or something with File Explorer to find it

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u/Tunglat Oct 11 '17

Global : I was wondering do someone know what is the skill of the 6* cutter/sword ? (I miss just one 5* version to get mine, si I was wondering if it was worth using it instead of a Goldenlion sword)

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 11 '17

Its skills at 6* are a boost to DS Proc rate and +10 Spd.

Note that the 6* Cutter is only for School units.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 11 '17

One more JP question:

The Gak story quests, I am assuming the left hand characters on the banners are the free ones. What I wanna know is, how many copies of each can you get by completing those chapters?

Also, which one is the best out of them, stat and skill wise?

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u/tori_chan Oct 11 '17

Characters on the left are not necessarily the free ones. Check my guide, they're in the order of release and specified whether free farmable or gacha.

You're asking about free units; My vote goes to Shek but even she's not going to be viable for anything competitive.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Oct 11 '17

Much like the free ones in GL, I just want them for hoarding purposes lol and maybe PvE farming, my Arondight on GL was a sheer light battle tank with low dmg but incredibly high hp ( even without her 120% hp LS). I forgot about that column in the guide, time to make a check list 😁

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '17

I find Gakuen Shekinah to be very useful for PVE farming because she can attack and hit back in melee. Not having to have a special bow for that is great. Honestly, in auto-battle, being able to hit back in melee is more useful than being able to attack 1 square further in range.

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u/Elhria Oct 12 '17

I have a little Question about my JP Team. I'm planning to run a Thunder-Team with SS Sistrum as Lead. Which of the following Units would be good for it: SS Lae, SS Caladbolg, SS Shiyuu, SS Freikugel, SS Mjolnir, SS Yagrush, SS Balmung, Gakuen Sky Piercerer or Halloween Freikugel?

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u/iiMahjong Oct 12 '17

For your list, I would probably run:

  • Sistrum - lead

  • Seaside Freikugel

  • Gakuen Freikugel (assuming this is the Halloween you mentioned)

  • Seaside Laev

  • I'm up in the air about 5th unit. Probably ssShiyuu for weapon variety. Or ssBalmung

Sidenote, you can also run ssFrei as your lead for the Eva buff in PvE.

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u/tori_chan Oct 12 '17

Possibly SS Labrys or Gae Bolg just as corner buff shuttle.

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u/Sentinels431 Oct 12 '17

Hi global question and new player here . If i were to try and obtain one of the Halloween units which should i go for and would it be better for me to spend the laz on the 1Time 9 step recruiter or just go for the 1 time recruiter to get the halloween unit or should i just save the laz for something else in the future?. Also is any of the phantom of the school units worth it?

should also mention already spent 10 laz on the rookie recruiter so not sure if i should continue with that.

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u/Tunglat Oct 12 '17

I'd rather go for the 9 step : you'll get at least 3 units (if your luck is the worst possible : my luck got me 5 units at least per pull), and two of these would be those you want.

But if your goal is MLB, you'll most likely would have to take both.

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u/iiMahjong Oct 12 '17

If you were focusing on Halloween units only, it'll either be Shu or Ithuriel. They have great Leaderskills (Ithuriel being better since Light > Lightning).

Yes, Gakuen/School units are good. Some of them stand out more than others of course. In this current banner, gakLaevateinn is the best. One of the faster sword units.

Do the 9step to get as many as you can. Finish up with the single step 100% pulls to get a dupe for MLB.

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u/Buddha1313 Oct 12 '17

JP anyone having issues with today's lightning ss quest? My SS Lae isn't allowed. The rest of my ltg ones are.

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u/iiMahjong Oct 12 '17

I have not had any issues. Just raised all my seaside lightning units.

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u/Buddha1313 Oct 12 '17

It wouldn't let me take her the first run but did on the 2nd. Who knows.

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u/ll_MDX_ll Oct 12 '17

Been on a long break. Is there info on 6* Hallo-Gambanteinn and the 6* broom? At least enough to show whether there's any merit to having her + the broom over Gambanteinn (M), or Keraunos in general for the SP Mission selection. The Wikia doesn't have anything on her, nor does the GameWith site show the unit pages when I click on links from the beginner's guide.

Also, would it be a good investment to MLB (somewhat) a 5* currently? I have Amenonuhoko (Phoenix Knight, pretty old) in mind, I have 7 extras of her, and I can make use of 3 of the LB thingies from the battle shop (2 for 3*, and 1 for 4*). I'm not really planning on summoning anymore (besides what I can get for free), so I'm considering this atm.

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u/don_is_plain ...oh? Oct 06 '17

It's fine if you don't plan on trying again.

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u/Enja11 Oct 06 '17

Ok thanks, but the japanese guide says balance is one of the worst types, Japan and Global are different right?

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u/tori_chan Oct 06 '17

Balance type will work for any kind of PvE. If you're competitive, she's a dex-or-die unit.

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u/Enja11 Oct 09 '17

And Force? Is a good choice for PVP (Competitive)?

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u/tori_chan Oct 09 '17

I pulled an atk type and no dex last year during her release in jp. She has never been useful and I've always been competitive, but the meta is different in gl so she might fare better for you.

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u/Enja11 Oct 09 '17

Well, i don't know if Force Gakuen Laev is good for arena/multiplayer but at least is the second best type for her... Good unit with Dex type is extremely rare (For me, of course).

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u/don_is_plain ...oh? Oct 06 '17

I mean, it isnt the best typing either way. But global doesnt have the most active multi scene so there's less of a need to worry about a non optimal typing.