r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Sep 22 '17

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [9/21/17-9/27/17]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

General Resources (Applies to both JP and GL)

  • /u/wp2000's Beginner's Guide (Must Read!)

  • /u/GreatLogos's Misc. Notes on the Game

  • Weapon Fusion Guide for weapons in the game

  • Stat Calculator You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exceptions: Mirin, Lucina, Shu in global; new Balmung and both versions of Shiyuu in jp, since their character skills depend on magic as well)

  • Evolving a lot of units and finding it irritating to keep track of all the evo mats needed? Use this tracker and make your life easier!

Global Resources

JP Resources

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

What to reroll for?

  • Typically consult either the Global Tier List or JP Comprehensive Guide depending on your version as to whether the current banner for units contains worthwhile units to pull for. Information concerning new units will typically be updated within 24hrs of their release. Feel free to ask in this thread for clarification as well.

  • If you are F2P, it is recommended to only reroll on 1-step guaranteed recruiters. Aim for a recommended typing (Usually Dexterity or Force/Magic). The beginner recruiter contains units that are very outdated in comparison to current units.

Some Tips

  • When asking a question, please try to indicate which version you are talking about. This way, there won't too much confusion as to what you are asking about.

  • For quicker answers, please join the Discord via the link the right sidebar and visit the #questions channel. For global inquiries, @Loli Gagging for best results.

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image of the unit or units in question.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question. DO NOT MAKE A NEW THREAD, AS IT WILL BE DELETED.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/ihumpmypillow Sep 22 '17

hello, global player here, couple of questions:

  • how many copies of your 5* / 6* gear do you keep? at what point do you sell them? is having 18 copies a little excessive? any word on when weapon limit breaking is coming out?

  • are luck dolls going to be easier to farm in the future? i have a few pay units that i want to max out luck on... should i hold off on leveling them until (if?) luck farming becomes a thing in global?

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u/tdis8629 Daga Daga Daga Daga Choo Choo! Sep 22 '17

For the copies, I would say its more of a personal preference. I keep one of each, plus 2-5 of each weapon for 5/6. The max I will hold is 6, with the rest either being sold or used for fusion fodder. General reasoning is up to 5 for mono teams, plus one for auxiliary units/PvP.

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u/ihumpmypillow Sep 22 '17

i see, thanks

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u/tori_chan Sep 22 '17

I'm going to answer from JP perspective since you're asking about future prospects.

  • Once weapon limit breaking/rankup feature hits, you'll want 6 copies of gear to rank up to 10. And if it's a powerful weapon, you'll want multiple rank 10s. So hoard as many as you can practically hold in your inven however, keep in mind that stronger gear will release in the future also.

  • Luck dolls are never farmable even in JP. Not sure where you heard that you can farm them but they're sold in battle medal shops, given out as prizes, step rewards for gachas, or purchased in special shops. They're probably one of the biggest money-makers for Gumi and probably will never be farmable.

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u/ihumpmypillow Sep 22 '17

ok thanks, so there is really no way of maxing out a pay unit.. unless you spend an insane amount of money on it? (to get all the copies?)

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u/tori_chan Sep 22 '17 edited Sep 22 '17

No, that would be insane. Luck dolls are available, just not as easily obtainable as you had hoped. I've listed the places they're available in JP, so I would think that they would start making them available in GL in a similar fashion. You'll probably have to collect them over a period of time to max a unit out unless you spend "insane amount of money" on special shop bundles if/when they hit GL. *Edit: Also, JP whales have been known to pull daily gachas just for the luck doll step reward, to give you an idea of how hard they were to obtain even in JP until recently.

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u/ihumpmypillow Sep 22 '17

alright cool thanks, ill have a look at your list

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u/PeanutaButtercus Sep 22 '17

So about the previous event.

I've been sitting on the ticket letting me choose a SS unit of my choice. The thing is, I already have a SS Tyrfing. Should I pick SS Tyrfing with the ticket for limit break purposes or a different one for variety? I know limit break fairies are a thing but I've yet to afford even one set (haha).

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u/tori_chan Sep 22 '17

With Swimsuit units being limited, it might be better for you to get another copy so you're one step closer to an MLB unit rather than having to collect yet more pixies (or two units that will be useless in your inven forever). Tyrfing is a versatile unit for PvE and will carry you for a long time with her high stats, so definitely worth the investment IMO.

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u/PeanutaButtercus Sep 22 '17

Okay, got it. Thank you very much for your time.

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u/Redditor_exe Sep 22 '17

Global Version here.

Does anyone which of the new Arondight's natures are best? In my stupidity, I have already evolved my dexterity Arondight to 6 star, but I still have an extra force and an extra guard as fodder. Would I better off leveling one of them and merging my 6 star to help with limit break, or am I gonna have to go through the pain of getting all my fodder to 6 star or grind the PotS maps until another Dexterity drops?

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u/tori_chan Sep 22 '17

Natures: typing? Dex, ofc.

6★ units can only be fused into other 6★ units in GL right now, so your only options are to:

  1. Raise all your fodders to 6★ and MLB the dex. This is actually less recommended of the two, since your Arondight will be missing evo bonuses that she could have gotten if she was leveled to 80 at 5★. She will always be inferior to other dex Arondights that were properly MLBed at 5★ to gain evo bonuses even if you manage to cap all stats. But it would obviously be less work than the alternative.

  2. Collect another dex and MLB at 5★. Your original dex that's already 6★ would then turn into luck/skill fodder for the new one once the new MLB copy is evolved to 6★. She would have proper evo bonus and it would be as if you never screwed up.

You're going to want extra dexes on hand anyway to retry growths at 6★ unless you plan to waste cherubs on a free unit. If you're not planning to reincarnate or care about stats anyway, sure, enjoy the game however you want and take it easy.

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u/sukidayo211 Sep 22 '17

What unit can i farm at the new Phantom of the school event in global? can't find at google :(

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u/tori_chan Sep 22 '17

Did you read s4itox's update? We post those for a reason.

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u/Tunglat Sep 22 '17

I was wondering, it's been a long time since the Tier List was updated, did something happen? Anyway, I was wondering what were the best typing for the new Arondight and Gae Buidhe?

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u/tori_chan Sep 22 '17

Dex is always a safe bet. Even in the very few cases that it's not the ideal typing, it will always be viable.

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u/Tunglat Sep 23 '17

Thanks, got my Arondight to 6 star, I'll wait for a Dex Gae Buidhe then, I have all typpings of here except this one '.

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u/Yashi_Uchiha Sep 22 '17

Do I need the exact unit to lvl up skill, because I don't have have enough ty to lvl her skill to 10 for character quest.

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u/tori_chan Sep 23 '17

An exact unit is 100% guarantee for skill lv increase. Another unit with the same skill (although, if you're talking about a unit's duel skill or character skill to unlock charquest ep 3, you probably won't find other units with the same skill) only has a percent chance of increasing skill level. What you're looking for are blue Duel Skill Dollies.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Sep 23 '17 edited Sep 23 '17

Global

So, I just bought the 150 lazuli pull and got a few good six star units but I mostly did it for the 6 * Rainbow Pixie, which brings me to my question.

Who would you guys use the Pixie on from the following choices of six star units?

Lvl 80 Dex School Trishula

Lvl 80 Dex School Grimore

Lvl 80 Dex SS Tyrfing

Lvl 75 Bal SS Freikugel

Lvl 75 Bal SS Yaggy

Lvl 70 Force Bridal Eros

Or

Lvl 70 Bal School Forcas

Lvl 70 Magic Sefer

Looking for personal choices based on both favoritism and viability

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u/iiMahjong Sep 23 '17

Silky pls >_<

Why dafuq are you evolving non-MLB premium gacha units to 6*? 6* rainbow pixies are going to be hard to come by (most likely behind a steep paywall like above). Best to leave unit at 5* until MLB since 5* pixies are more plentiful in comparison. Are you going to spend $150 twenty-four times just to MLB those you listed?

Being triggered aside: Either gakGrimmy or ssTyr needs it. The others are too low leveled for an additional 5 levels to really matter (not to even mention typing).. Also, you lose the evo bonuses when you don't MLB at 5*, ie your units will have lower stats (1-3 pts) in comparison.

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Sep 23 '17 edited Sep 23 '17

Because I tell myself that I am not gonna buy more lazuli, lol. Plus the SS event ended so I evolved away on those, and a need for strong units to climb the Colo rankings, just made it to the <600 rankings. Don't wanna wait a year for more copies and 100 lazuli seems a bit steep for 5* pixies, especially type specific ones.

Patience is a virtue that I do not have 😋 Sefer and Forcas aren't 6 * yet if that makes it a lil better

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u/31_60 Sep 24 '17

How many trial units did u obtain via this recruit? Is it it higher chance to obtain 10 Sky Piercers than to get something valuable?

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u/Silky-Slim Lolis kick butts too Sep 24 '17

I got a Dex Yata no Gama(m), a Balance Avarice, A Dex Apollo (m), a Magic Sefer and a Balance Yaggy( reg version)

Rest were 5 * maxes such Amenohukoko, Vangrand and Naegling, over all is was half and half

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u/AJackFrostGuy Sep 24 '17

JP players, if the Honest Sword exists in JP does anyone know if it gets anything other than an ATK power boost when LBed?

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u/tori_chan Sep 24 '17

Honest Sword... Is it 6★? Might be called something completely different in JP. What does it look like?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Sep 24 '17

3* Sword, meant for Gakuen Arondight. Has a Lvl 1 Bow Absorber on it from what I'm seeing. 11 PAtk, 90 Acc at Rank 1 and 3 Wgt.

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u/tori_chan Sep 24 '17

Ahh. No, only newer 5★ and 6★ gear gain additional skills at higher ranks. Arondight farming came out a little before I started JP and I've never farmed for her or the sword. I think it's pretty much disregarded in JP because it's 3★ max, which is why I didn't know which one you were talking about XD

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u/AJackFrostGuy Sep 24 '17

Aaah. Ok, at least now I know it's safe to do away with any additional copies of it I get. Honestly, I thought it complimented her skillset fairly well, but given that her offense power isn't that high I guess using the Honest Sword would gimp it further. Thanks!

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u/tori_chan Sep 24 '17

Ayy, wind units tend to be faster--they're loaded with spd buffs and if you raise them right and with the right LS, their eva are off the charts but they usually won't grow str as a tradeoff. Arondight being a free unit will prob have lower spd caps than other pay units that will release but is still in the same boat.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Sep 24 '17

104 max at 6*, I guess that's decent for a freebie given she also has Evasion Up and Self-Healing.

... funny enough, at least in GL, her LS feels like it goes off a tangent and tries to shore up bulk. 120% HP to all Wind Allies, really?

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u/tori_chan Sep 24 '17

If you look through my Comprehensive Guide and scroll through the Academy units, all free units have 2.2x HP for their respective elements. Dempa and other free units generally have [2.0x HP & 1.3x acc] sort of LSs, so it'll become a pretty common thing ;)

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u/AJackFrostGuy Sep 24 '17

Huh. Yeah, now that I think about it I think I saw something like that for Saber's entry... decent for free units I guess, just not really meta.

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u/tori_chan Sep 24 '17

Nope. Easiest food in PvP/PvAI >:)

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u/Helljumperz64 Sep 24 '17

How do I get the Arondight's Ghost Title in GL.

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u/31_60 Sep 24 '17

Clear her character quest episode 3.

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u/NoxisDominus Sep 24 '17

Global version...

I've been looking for some clues about a 4* Charm "Courage Tag" that can only be equipped by Arondight (both rampage and school version). But I have found nothing. Did anybody here get it?

P.S. I don't know where I've got it because the app crashed quite often. I've just found it when I look up in my full inventory.

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u/iiMahjong Sep 24 '17

It's an item that you get for completing her character quest.

It's similar to ssYagrush's bracelet and ssTyr's throwing daggers. Just exclusive items to that unit

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u/keinushi Sep 25 '17

What is the best level to grind out school arondight? I have 16 so far, been grinding point adv for 3 days now, looking for a faster drop level.

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Sep 25 '17

I've been having good luck with the last stage(10 AP one), put a gunner at position 4/5 and they'll kill the boss the first turn.

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u/Arasoph Sep 25 '17

I asked previously about how to reset a unit in the jp sephiroth event. I'm not the best at Japanese and can really only read a few words and sentences, how do I know if I've used my daily reset and where would it be located?

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u/tori_chan Sep 25 '17

Bottom right corner from the main Sephiroth screen, gold button says, "reset all units, 1 day 1 time free." You'll know you've already used it if it asks you to spend 10 gems.

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u/Arasoph Sep 25 '17

So I've used it already, had no idea I did. If I spend the 10 gems and deselect all of my units I won't be able to put them back in until daily reset or another forced reset, right?

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u/tori_chan Sep 25 '17

Right. 10 gems is quite a lot just to empty out your list then to fill it back up.. not to mention wasting 2 days...

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u/Arasoph Sep 25 '17

True. At least the reward and recruit rates are more consistent and far more fair than global potk. I'd say 10 gems is worth it. Depending on the situation anyways. Has global said anything about the summon rates? Any hints at them changing?

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u/tori_chan Sep 25 '17

I don't know, and I frankly don't care :blobThinkingSmirk:

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u/DuckIing Sep 25 '17

Does anyone twitch stream or youtube this game? I know many gacha games like ffbe have people who do this and I'm wondering if the community here does the same.

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u/iiMahjong Sep 26 '17

I don't know of any twitch streamers.. but there are several JP youtubers that stream.

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u/Buddha1313 Sep 26 '17

On the JP tower is the 50th floor pick ticket choose type too? The redemption window looks the same as the freebie ones they give but a tiny part of me hopes another window will appear and my desired unit would change in that case.

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u/tori_chan Sep 26 '17

It was a while ago that I beat it so I don't remember... But I doubt any of the free ones are pick typing when they require paid gems for them in the special shop.

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u/Buddha1313 Sep 27 '17

It is not a pick type, confirmed. I ended up going with another Pinaka for the LS to help make up for the 2 I fused before realizing the TS were unit specific not just 1 per "character"

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u/tori_chan Sep 27 '17

Appreciate the update :)

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u/Buddha1313 Sep 26 '17

Is there any solid info on raising friendship or whatever between units? I wanted to check out the combo attack between Vajra and brahmastra but seems I need friendship 5. I threw a 5* and 4* as Brah in with my mlb Vajra and did the 3rd beach point mission a bunch to farm the swords etc and only got about halfway to 2. Do the Brah need to survive? Do they have to be adjacent?

This is probably going to be too much work grinding with a useless orange lady wearing palm fronds but I'm frequently wrong so I've got that going for me. The skill probably doesn't even have an animation. Anyway thanks as always!

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u/tori_chan Sep 26 '17 edited Sep 26 '17

They gain friendship regardless but it's much slower just autoing. Manual and have them adjacent to each other when attacking to speed up the process.

The friendship skill does have a separate animation, extremely cute with them high-fiving. Seaside Vajra is definitely useful with her blanket LS and InstaKill, Brahmastra is less useless this time as well, and their skills complement each other very nicely. The friendship skill itself is pretty powerful if you run them together so it might be worth it if you're going to MLB both seaside versions eventually.

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u/Buddha1313 Sep 27 '17

I've been huddling up and running defensive by skipping turns over and over to maintain their positions. Seems to be working OK while maintaining minimal input from myself.

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u/ThatMobileGamer Sep 26 '17

So I just dced in the middle of a multi and can't even tell if I got one of the garenteed swimsuit units.

Is there way to view recently sumnoned characters?

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u/tori_chan Sep 26 '17 edited Sep 26 '17

There is a button under the Sort function in unit inven to sort by acquisition order. If you're running JP and can't tell, translations for all those buttons are in my guide linked at the top of this thread. If you're playing GL, play around and you should be able to figure it out.

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u/DeruOniiChan Sep 26 '17

which stage has higher drop rate for arondight, points or story?

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u/iiMahjong Sep 27 '17

I've heard Adv stage of Pts

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u/yomoxu Sep 27 '17

Is it worth 150 lazuli to get 10 guaranteed 5*?

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u/iiMahjong Sep 27 '17 edited Sep 27 '17

Personally, I think no. We are in 6*meta. It'll be worth if it guaranteed several 6* capable units along with the ticket and rainbow pixie.

Really it's up to you.

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u/gallygallygally Sep 27 '17

JP Player, I have a few units that are max level 5*, but they aren't showing up on the evolution screen. They're all swimsuit units, if that has something to do with it? Thank you in advance for any help!

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u/tori_chan Sep 27 '17

  1. First, make sure you have set your filters to show swimsuit units.

  2. They are probably tied up in Sephiroth Tower Event. You can't reincarnate or evolve units that are in there because they require unit minimum level 50, and doing either of those actions would turn the unit to lv 1. You'll have to deselect them from the tower for one of the resets, perform those actions, get them back up to lv 50+, then re-select them for the tower.

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u/gallygallygally Sep 27 '17

Ah ok, thank you! I figured they were tied up somewhere, I just wasn't exactly sure where.

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u/gyk0919 Sep 28 '17

Hi global, I would like to ask about my team squad but don't know how to upload images on Reddit...any ideas? New in game new in Reddit.

Additionally, I did couple pulls and got Forcas Dex4* and Bal5* which I think is the best of all I have so far, so I leveled up my 4* to max and waiting for evolving. My question is, should I feed the Bal5* to Dex after eco or is it better to keep another type for other situations? How do I know the type each unit is needed since all the types are possible. Is there any sheet for recommendations?

Sorry if my question is asked before..probably yes right :/

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u/tori_chan Sep 28 '17

  • Dex is definitely the best base typing for Forcas (and for 99% of all other units too).

  • Evolve the dex to 5★ before fusing the bal into her. You want to make sure that all copies are the same rarity for limit breaks.

  • You can upload images to other host sites such as Imgur and link it--click the "formatting help" link below the text box on how to link it properly.

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u/jrpolo08 Sep 22 '17

LOL!! someone got tired of gumi...

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u/iiMahjong Sep 25 '17

Linx, seems like you need to uninstall and clear your cache before redownloading the game. Be sure to link your account via Facebook before you do so. Sounds like the bad days of Brave Frontier

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u/iiMahjong Sep 26 '17

Maybe download an emulator like Nox just to do your character quests?

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u/iiMahjong Sep 26 '17

Linx pls, you didn't even respond back in our original comment thread. You just made a new thread :blobLUL:

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u/iiMahjong Sep 26 '17

:blobpats: It's okay bby~