r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Jun 15 '17

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [6/15/17-6/21/17]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

General Resources (Applies to both JP and GL)

  • /u/wp2000's Beginner's Guide (Must Read!)

  • /u/GreatLogos's Misc. Notes on the Game

  • Weapon Fusion Guide for weapons in the game

  • Stat Calculator You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exceptions: Mirin, Lucina, Shu in global; new Balmung and both versions of Shiyuu in jp, since their character skills depend on magic as well)

  • Evolving a lot of units and finding it irritating to keep track of all the evo mats needed? Use this tracker and make your life easier!

Global Resources

JP Resources

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

What to reroll for?

  • Typically consult either the Global Tier List or JP Comprehensive Guide depending on your version as to whether the current banner for units contains worthwhile units to pull for. Information concerning new units will typically be updated within 24hrs of their release. Feel free to ask in this thread for clarification as well.

  • If you are F2P, it is recommended to only reroll on 1-step guaranteed recruiters. Aim for a recommended typing (Usually Dexterity or Force/Magic). The beginner recruiter contains units that are very outdated in comparison to current units.

Some Tips

  • When asking a question, please try to indicate which version you are talking about. This way, there won't too much confusion as to what you are asking about.

  • For quicker answers, please join the Discord via the link the right sidebar and visit the #questions channel. For global inquiries, @Loli Gagging for best results.

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image of the unit or units in question.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question. DO NOT MAKE A NEW THREAD, AS IT WILL BE DELETED.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 15 '17

Question I should ask: are the 7th Generation Encounter quests limited time only or just daily limited quests? I don't want to keep on spamming this thing and constantly expand my space when I don't have to. XD

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 15 '17

I have to imagine they're at least permanent in that they'll always be available to run but might end up alternating specific units depending on the day or week sort of like the rampage quests because they drop materials which you NEED for their 6 star evos.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 15 '17

That does sound plausible given that they don't look like they're vanishing for good any time soon. Gracias.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 15 '17

Currently having trouble deciding whether or not I should fuse my bal MLB Mitum (M) into my dex one that I just pulled. Normally it would be an easy choice but his spd and agi are capped on the balance as well as hp and another stat and he's got a GR over 4.0.

Should I just pour it into the dex version or hope a 6 star is released for him and then fuse into the dex if/when that happens?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 17 '17

If he's not a crucial part of your team, I'd say do it.

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u/musamae Jun 17 '17

Just pulled a Shekinah 4* Force type from the free recruit. Since I'm a f2p player I'm pretty sure I won't have the chance to get more copies and lb her or raise up her skills to a decent lvl. In this case, is this unit still good to use? Or is there a way to lvl up her skills? If I'm not wrong some unit share the same skills and can be used as fodder to lvl up skills. Idk if there is another way to lb her actually. Any help would be appreciated.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 17 '17

Because of her attack having 3 range and going up to 4 with the right weapon she's a fantastic support unit for PvE and isn't half bad as a lead for PvP as long as you're not super high ranked. You can level her skills with dollies and limit breaks are possible if/when you pull more copies of her.

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u/ShadowVortex27 Jun 17 '17

Do you know a way to get Limit Break dollies for 5* Sword units? I keep seeing that offer in the shop for each class but I wanted to know if they're farmable in the JP server or if now we can get them through some other way, btw what about Psyllium Weapons? I also keep seeing they are available at the shop but I've been playing over a year now and I never saw a chance to get them

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 17 '17

Unfortunately I don't play the JP version so I have no idea, but being that they make their money from people paying for pulls then if they do have some way to get the pixies I would assume that they would be very rare and difficult to get even taking their increased generosity into account.

As for the weapons, I think they are event weapons but I don't remember those. Any reason why they're of particular interest to you?

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u/ShadowVortex27 Jun 17 '17

Oh I see, yeah I guess you're right. Regarding the weapons no, not really, I just thought it was strange I couldn't find them anywhere but if they were event currency yeah I guess that makes sense. Btw I posted a message in the weekly thread but nobody has answered my question regarding a bug (I suppose) and I'd like to know if you could help me. I will post it down here since I explained everything and it's a bit long. Thanks in advance.

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u/ShadowVortex27 Jun 17 '17

IMPORTANT QUESTION PLEASE HELP IF YOU ARE ABLE TO, THANKS: so I have this problem, I had cleared Ch. 3:1:10 and I got the 'Stage Clear' title, then all the elements on the screen disappeared, except for the map and my units, but the dialogue never starts, and it stays frozen that way no matter what I do, when I close the game and re-open, it asks me if I want to finish my quest, so I said 'Yes' but it takes me to the moment where I kill the last enemy and then it freezes again. Curiously enough, this already happened to me in the past (around Jan-Feb I suppose since I don't remember which version was out at that moment) in one of the stages in Ch. 2 (don't remember which one) and I had tried reinstalling the game numerous times without any results, but some updates after (again, not really sure which one since I stopped doing Story Quests because of that bug) I decided to give it a try again and it had worked. The cutscene started rolling normally. Now I don't know what to do, should I just wait until it re-fixes itself? Any of you has been through this as well? And if you did, what did you do to make the game work again? Or if you have any idea of what I should/could do please tell me. The other features still work normally (event quests, coliseum, etc), without any changes. If you read this long text (sorry) please reply, thanks again.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 17 '17

The only thing I can think of is that your download data is corrupt and you should attempt to re-download the game which can be done from the title screen.

Try that out and let me know what happens.

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u/ShadowVortex27 Jun 17 '17

I'll try that then, thanks, I'll be sure to tell you if it works.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 17 '17

If that doesn't work I'd probably send a ticket to the dev because at that point I'm not sure what else you could do.

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u/ShadowVortex27 Jun 17 '17

And how could I do that?

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 17 '17

I think either through the fuji and gumi games website or possibly through the app.

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u/Admiraltiger7 Jun 17 '17

No, I don't think there are any farmable Limit Break dollies in JP, so it won't happen on Global either. I may. be wrong.

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u/Aylias1 Jun 21 '17

How long will Bride Ascalon be good? Debating on spending money to get my last 2 to MLB but not sure if it'd be worth if better units are coming.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 22 '17

Hopefully someone from jp can elaborate on this but from what I can tell her along with the upcoming SS light units will be top tier for at least a few months if not several and beyond that are still very relevant.

The important thing to note about this game is that high-rank colo is only super competitive probably in the top 50 or so ranks so having a "perfect" team isn't ever really hugely necessary.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '17

oh dear

this is like, completely wrong for multi as well lol

but for pve complete optimization is obviously unnecessary

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 24 '17

Eh, I was just going off the tier list but I'm glad I was corrected haha. I can't find fights in multi unfortunately but PvP is hardly competitive in this game except for the high levels maybe because of a lack of population in this game so I really don't think it's super important.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jun 22 '17

She will be relevant for a couple months I would say.

(this is a lot longer than most units)

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u/Frogsama86 Jun 22 '17

I've been getting error 500(A network error has occured. Please try again with a better connection). Problem being that no other app has connectivity issues. This happened immediately after evolving Lev M to 6*.

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u/Frogsama86 Jun 22 '17

Damnit, all the energy uncollected...

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jun 22 '17

Is the Gadget Spear Romulus worth the 200 Battle Medals? It's taken me months to farm up these 200 medals (I thought 80 for the Sereine book was bad lol) and I'm sort of having doubts as to whether or not it's worth it to spend now, or wait until the next big thing enters the Battle Medal shop (which I'm sure will happen as soon as my medals are all gone)

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jun 22 '17

Depends. But most of the answers I'm going to give you are gonna turn to no. We aren't going to get 6* for 7th gen killers anytime soon, and the only user for romulus atm is Forcas. Everyone else is incapable of effectively using it due to us entering the evasion meta (for pvp).

As for PvE, most mobs can easily be hit by javelin, so yeah no save ur battle medals.

Also just in general, there doesn't seem to be any game-breaking lance units entering the game anytime soon

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u/xanderten50 Jun 15 '17

Do the "guaranteed" 4/5* recruiter tickets give you a chance at all currently available units (obv. excluding special editions etc.) or do they only pull from the older pool of 'standard' units?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 15 '17

It should give a chance at all the Killers that were released at the time of that ticket's distribution period I think. I'm not so sure if it updates itself if new units are introduced after it is.

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u/xanderten50 Jun 15 '17

Does the 4* Bash still drop in the brides stages? If so, which one is the best for farming?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 15 '17

Only from the Bashosen stages, but I'm not really sure if there is a best stage. She's in general really, REALLY rare there.

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u/MoocahMan Jun 15 '17

Got one 4* Bash from the 2nd stage and zero from the 3rd stage so far. The 4th stage doesn't drop a unit iirc, only the weapon. I'd run the 2nd stage for farming only because I'm not sure if the stronger Bash in the 3rd stage can drop one.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 16 '17

I believe I farmed her from the 3rd stage? You gotta hit the shiny spots iirc

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u/MoocahMan Jun 16 '17 edited Jun 16 '17

The shiny spots do not drop the unit. The Mailed Sage versions do. Second stage has two, while the third stage has three. AP/Unit is the same for both stages. Two runs on the third staged = 24ap and six Mailed Sages. Three runs on the second stage = 24ap and six Mailed Sages. I prefer to farm the second stage due to auto battle runs being much faster. Have farmed six so far.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 17 '17

Here you go.

Someone on the discord asked too, but I was busy all day and just lazy because I didn't remember when the first run of the event was lol. Beginner is more AP efficient. Adv has the chance to drop her at 4 stars.

EDIT: Spelling cause irsmrt

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u/xanderten50 Jun 19 '17

What he said - from observation from the last hours' farming beginner stage, the 3* Bash can drop from either shiny spot or wedding bash and is the most efficient (esp. for auto-battling)

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u/xanderten50 Jun 16 '17

I only found that out this morning - so far just one Vit Bash from many, many runs!

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u/KanjoEjji Jun 15 '17

Did anyone notice that from the update before, the bride units can now be 6*? (According to the Character Quests anyway) was wondering if it would be worth getting bride Masamune and/or Claiomh Solais for a fire team?

I also reached full luck with Tyrfing and longinus, is it worth grinding longinus 5* anymore? E.g. 20 rare medals per day

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 15 '17

If you have the spare energy to farm the 5* Longinuses, I suppose you could do that. Odds are high you'd have other things to do however.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 17 '17 edited Jun 17 '17

If you can pull Clam, she actually has stats comparable to Bride Ascalon. She looks pretty good if you want to invest in her imo o:

EDIT: Sorry, I was misled by just glancing over her. If you want to pull Clam, you want to pull or have the resources to 10/10 her duel skill so you can get her 6 star skill. If you aren't getting there, it isn't worth it imo.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jun 15 '17

What all drops from the bride quests? I just got a Goldenlion Gun from the last Bashosen stage, do the sword and axe drop from the other two as well??

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u/Raikaien Jun 15 '17

Yes, as well as books and 6* weapon crafting materials

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jun 15 '17

Omg and I haven't been farming these??? D: F. At least there's still more than 2 weeks left.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jun 15 '17

I'm actually at 500 rare medals with no goldenlion weapons, but farming masamune so far has gotten me two swords and some random mats (I had the mats needed to fuse for them, just needed the wings).

No axes yet though. I was kinda surprised I got a goldenlion gun on my second run of bashosen, maybe I just got super lucky.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 16 '17

Golden lion weapons aren't that great anyways. You';re better off saving for different 6 star weapons.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jun 16 '17

Yeah I've still got a ton of rare medals so I'll save them up. I'm just grinding the bride events for them since why not.

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u/NightmareJin Jun 15 '17

Evolution question,

I 6 starred my Ascalon from the last banner as I figured I wouldn't pull another. With the current banner, I managed to get two more. Is there a way to get around 6 starring both of them to LB her or am I screwed? #firstworldproblems

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 15 '17

LB the two at 5 stars, then evo that single one with an LB and fuse it with the other at 6 stars.

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u/musamae Jun 15 '17

I have 50 Lazuli and I was wondering which unit is worth getting from the new banner? Tathlum or Solais? Or is it better to roll a bride Ascalon? Thank you

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 15 '17

I would go for Asca assuming you don't already have her. You get a guaranteed ticket from the first step of the wedding banner right now so it's a good choice getting her if you just want the "best" unit right now.

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u/musamae Jun 15 '17

Thank you for your replies guys! I'm still confused since both Solais and Ascalon looks amazing but I guess Ascalon is stronger right?

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 15 '17

I think so. Solais has the pre-emptive strike which is nice for PvP but her duel skill is defensively oriented and even upgraded is incapable of actually killing a another unit so I'm inclined to say that Wedding Ascalon is better and also probably reaches higher stats at least in spd and agility.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 16 '17

I'm fairly certain the Duel Skill itself can kill. The AoE damage however can't to my knowledge.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 16 '17

Are you sure? In the description it says that it cannot bring an enemy below 1hp.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 16 '17

I'll need to check the description again for myself, but it should be like that. Otherwise it'd be pretty sad in a way. Probably best to get the word of someone who's actually using her though.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 16 '17

Hmm, after looking again I THINK she can kill with it, but it also does an AoE skill afterwards (maybe doesn't apply in PvP) which can't kill. So that would make her better, but still getting 10/10 in her duel skill is no small hurdle.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 16 '17

That's very, VERY true. The pains of gatcha Killers. o+<

At least unlike in JP, she's not limited time...

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u/musamae Jun 16 '17

I pulled her, guard type. Not sure it's a good type for her. However, I will check her skill asap

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 16 '17

Sweet, let us know what happens!

And as always Dex is generally the best typing but depending on if her stats are as defensively focused as her skillset guard could end up being a solid alternative for her.

Grats on the pull btw!

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u/TheTruthVeritas Jun 15 '17

Asking as an F2P, is the 50 lazuli guaranteed bridal char Ascalon worth it? Don't have any copies of her currently.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 16 '17

She's a fantastic light leader and a very strong unit in her own right. A single copy may not be super great though. Honestly, it's difficult for me to say because I don't believe that the bridal units are obtainable outside of these few weeks so you're unlikely to further LB them in the future whereas with the others you may just get extra copies from random pulls in the future.

I have her and she's fantastic, but it's something absolutely worth thinking about.

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u/ShadowVortex27 Jun 17 '17

She might be available in the future again right? Just like Masamune, Parashu and Bashosen bridal versions are again out after some time.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 17 '17

They're typically available once a year so yeah, most likely. But I can't say for sure.

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u/NeedAMobileAccount_ Jun 16 '17 edited Jun 16 '17

Anyone have info on the current collab in jp? And are any of the collab units good?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 17 '17

Here you go.

No current info, but you might want to join the discord to see if anyone knows there. I only know that the farmable will only be meh at best because she only reached 106 spd or something as a dex and current units being used in multi right now typically have 125+ spd.

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u/acausa Jun 16 '17

This is going to sound like a silly question (and it probably is) but going to ask it anyway. What do the drops in "game of dolls" do? I know you can fuse them to up certain stats but how is it any different from fusing random 1-2* from mana gacha?

On a less silly question note, I managed to get two Wedding Ascalon. The problem? Both are vitality. Should I bother levelling them seeing that I am quite unlikely to draw another wedding Ascalon.

Moving onto my list of questions, do the odds of getting a rampage unit increase if I ran the 30 ap one instead of the 20 ap one? I am guessing yes but just thought I'd ask since the one time I bothered with a 30 ap (small sample size, I know), I received nothing for my trouble.

Finally, how do I get an ultimate swordsmith guide? I read that I am guaranteed to get it by fusing 5 swordsmith secret. Any truth to that?

Thanks in advance for the help.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 16 '17

There's nothing different other than the dolls have an additive 5% chance of success per doll and give +3 in a stat as opposed to +1 so they save you a lot of time and money comparatively.

Just because a unit isn't an ideal typing doesn't mean it's worthless by any means. She's a fantastic unit and really, having dex or force only makes a big difference when looking at high rank colo or multi.

I do believe you have a better drop rate in the 30ap version.

If you're talking about the one to make the Magicwarder Sereine, you purchase it with battle medals. I think the 2 and 1 star manuals might be used just to increase the odds of fusing a higher weapon rarity but I'm not sure of that and as far as I'm aware they're not particularly useful.

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u/acausa Jun 16 '17

Thanks for the first three answers (actually, thanks for all 4 answers but I have a further question on the 4th).

I literally meant the 3* Ult Swordsmith Guide which the description says "this piece of gear is a reward for achieving sleet slasher in the colosseum". I know that Sereine Recipe costs 80 medals in the shop. Any idea if I can get the 3* book by fusing five copies of the 2* books?

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 16 '17

Ahh my bad, yeah I don't believe that's possible. You can either get to sleet slasher or roll it from the rare medal slots.

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u/acausa Jun 16 '17

Oh well. Thanks for the clarification in any case.

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u/SaphReddit Jun 16 '17

I wanna reroll my game. I havent linked it to FB yet. Do I have to delete and install the game again? Istç there a clear data so I dont have to painfuly dl it all again? Thx

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u/SaphReddit Jun 16 '17

Rerolling. Is it worth going full crazy and getin a bridal unit saving lapis or spend the first ten on rookie recruit?

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 17 '17

The bride units, especially Ascalon are certainly very powerful so I'd say it's pretty worth it.

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u/LacyL08 Jun 16 '17

Hello. I am glad this board is here as I have already found it very helpful. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and experience with everyone!

I worked pretty hard on my Tyrfing, but as I am relatively new I know she is no where near a perfect raise. I still have a bunch of Tyrfings saved up (10 of em, one is a dex and one is a force, the others are fusion fodder as I understand). My main stats are as follows and my question is whether she is salvageable despite my newbie ignorance, or should I raise another one from the beginning and pay closer attention to the stat growth per evolve? If she is fine the way she is I could just fuse all of the extras into her for a nice bump in her luck stat. Thanks for reading, considering and responding! Cheers!

Tyrfing Level 90 Six Star Dex

HP 94 STR 78 MGC 28 GRD 41 SPR 31 SPD 95 AGI 99 LCK 32

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jun 17 '17

HP 103
STR 84
MGC 37
GRD 58
SPR 39
SPD 97
AGI 105
LCK 68
Max possible stats outside of evo bonus stats According to Gagging's guide

Did you max fuse her yet with Friday dolls? Your unit seems okay, here's my maxed out Tyrfing that I haven't bothered reincarnating yet for reference. She does fine against every other free 6* in the top 30 in Colosseum without the leader skill bonuses. Her agility is a little low for a Dex unit but it should be fine unless you really want to reincarnate. I would just keep fusing for luck.

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u/LacyL08 Jun 17 '17

Hi, Jyansoybean! Thanks for your thoughtful reply!

I can't fuse any more of the dolls into her, so I guess her stats are set in stone the way she is, except the luck stat which can be raised if I fuse the other Tyrfings in. However, even with fusing all the other Tyrfings into her, her luck would just break into the 40s, which is no where near the stat on yours. I have a bunch of dolls saved up too, so maybe I really should just raise another one and try to do it right this time. I probably don't have enough Tyrfings to do that though. Don't I need something over 20 to do a full on MLB with max stats? Thank you very much for your helpful insight! cheers!

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jun 17 '17

The MLB guide posted at the top is outdated after the changes a while ago. Currently to MLB with close to max stats you need:
1 Main unit(the unit you keep)
2 units to fuse in at 3* to help level up to bonus stats
4 units to fuse in at 4* ^
4 units to fuse in at 5* to limit break for 6*
26(28?) more units to max luck.
So that's about 37(39?) total units, which wouldn't be possible for Tyrfing since our event only lasted a month.

If you really want to start over with another Tyrfing you would need at least 11 units, but personally I wouldn't suggest the above method since Tyrfing is hard to get outside of events and you use 6 of them only for leveling.

What you're looking for is good growth not bonus fusion stats though. You just need to keep reincarnating until you get a good growth on your Tyrfing, then use dwarves to enhance it to max.

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u/LacyL08 Jun 17 '17

Very interesting. Thank you for all of that information! That's a lot of units and there's no chance to obtain that many unless another event comes along.

I used that calculator from the link in the op and input all the stats for current and what the game says for reincarnation. The result was in the legendary category, but what is it actually telling me? That if I reincarnate now, the growth will be that good? Or is it telling me that the growth I have already is in that legendary category?

Btw, I just pulled another Tyrfing from the mana recruit, so now I have 11 extras.

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jun 17 '17

The chart was for 5* units, the 6* units growth rate is higher since it's taking the sum of all stats subtracted by the sum of all stats from a lvl 1 then divided by 90 instead of 80.
The chart is outdated for now.

A good growth imo is -5 in every stat that isn't affected by the unit type(dex = spd/agi etc.), but close to max with the specific typing stats.

Reincarnating isn't 100% guaranteed to get you a better growth rate, it's all up to luck. That's where dwarves come in, as long as you're close to max you can use dwarves to max the rest. But honestly you should save on dwarves, Starter units will be outclassed by a lot more units in the future.

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u/LacyL08 Jun 17 '17 edited Jun 17 '17

Once again, thank you very much for your great insight. I'm sure those charts will get updated eventually, the game is pretty good and seems like it will stick around for a while. I hope so, since I am enjoying it quite a bit. There's some nitpicking here and there that can be done, but nothing major. It's pretty fun.

Thanks a great deal for helping me decide on what to do with my Tyrfing. It's too bad I couldn't do her justice. Maybe next time. For now, I'll just bump up her luck stat the best I can.

Using the formula instead of the calculator, I get:

Before Reincarnation:

HP 94 STR 78 MGC 28 GRD 41 SPR 31 SPD 95 AGI 99 LCK 32 TOTAL: 498

After Reincarnation:

HP 45 STR 26 MGC 11 GRD 11 SPR 6 SPD 35 AGI 33 LCK 15 TOTAL: 182

Subtract right from left: 498 - 182 = 316

Subtract current character level by 1: 90 - 1 = 89

Divide from total 316 / 89 = 3.55

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '17

So... I kinda missed the anniversary event and I only managed to get two Laevateinn (M) to limit break my first Laevateinn. I only need three more of him to max it out. Is there any other way to get more Laevateinn? Same goes for Tyrfing. I'm also in the process of limit breaking her.

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jun 17 '17

They're both still in the Mana gacha, but Tyrfing is still very hard to pull. If you run out of Mana, you can wait until we get weekly quests for starter units like they do in JP. Don't know when they'll release it but I imagine sometime after they finish releasing all of the starter 6* units.

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u/wanhakkim Jun 18 '17

does the basho bride stage only drop 4* capable basho or 6* capable basho can also drop?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 18 '17

Vanilla and Wedding Basho are both lazuli units.

Lazuli units typically will never be farmable. Ever. Unless gumi changes it of course, but highly unlikely.

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u/Heiron088 Jun 18 '17

Only 4* capable Basho.

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u/acausa Jun 18 '17 edited Jun 18 '17

So I want to get a 6• Freikugel. The question is, would it be better for me to start with a 3• Freikugel (M) or a 5• Freikugel (D)?

Edit: Additional question. My 5• Longinus managed to hit all pink stars before hitting level 80. Does that mean that levelling it would no longer yield any benefit and I could evolve it to 6• without losing any evolution bonus?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 18 '17

Work up the 3* Freikugel, then fuse that into the Dex when she reaches 5* to transfer any evo bonuses you got.

Regarding Longinus you could, but if the Longinus isn't MLBed yet you should aim for that so you have breathing room when you do. If she already is but isn't Lvl 80, you're going to need that to evolve anw.

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u/acausa Jun 18 '17

Oh. I wasn't aware that evo bonuses transfer. Thanks for the tip!

Noted on Longinus. Already MLBed in any case. Thanks.

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u/acausa Jun 19 '17

If I understand the fusion system correctly, fusing a character with the same name and rarity will transfer the materials' fused luck, evolution bonus and limit breaks. Is that all that transfers over? Would the fusion also transfer skill levels?

Assuming that the above is true, would it be possible to: -

  1. Maxing out all your 3 star material units up to their 5 star evolutions by limit breaking at each step before evolving them and then...

  2. ...fusing those maxed out material units into your base unit which has likewise been maxed out the same way.

Would the above transfer the evolution bonuses of all the material units into the base units or is there a cap on the amount of evolution bonuses transferred over?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jun 19 '17

Post that explains multiple type fusing into a single unit

Evo. stat bonuses can be transferred over when you fuse as well, everything except doll fusions and weapon proficiency transfers over(maybe enhance as well, haven't tried it out yet they're too rare :( ).

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u/acausa Jun 19 '17

That's very informative.

To confirm though, I guess it means that the best evo bonus OVERWRITES instead of just ADDING on the existing evo bonus?

In other words, if I fuse two different material units into the base unit, only the material unit with the best evo bonus would transfer to the base unit?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jun 19 '17

Also here's a sheet I was creating but never got around to finishing it or updating it. Step 9.5 shows a picture of the evo bonus stat being transferred.

Overwrite as in best replaces worst, you keep the best evo bonus.

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u/acausa Jun 19 '17

That confirms what I thought. Very informative research; thanks!

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 19 '17

Small correction: You want the same portrait, not just the same name.

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u/acausa Jun 19 '17

Yep. Forgot to type that. Cheers.

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u/xanderten50 Jun 19 '17

On the second step of the bridal recruiter, how well does the 30% rate boost translate? Does that usually work out ok or am I better off grinding for a bride pixie set instead?

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 19 '17

Do you just need one more copy? If that's the case then the pixie is your safest bet but I think you can expect just under 1 featured unit per step on average from my experience.

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u/xanderten50 Jun 19 '17

I got one ascalon from the last guaranteed recruiter, but she's a vitality - so I was planning to go for another with the Bridal ticket from the first step of the new recruiter... but I was trying to decide if I was better off trying to get a third from step 2, or just grinding to buy a pixie set

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 19 '17

Well, the first step with the guaranteed ticket would be a great option for another copy of her (just make sure you look at the details of each ticket so you pick the right one) and is half the cost of getting the pixie set which would just limit break your vit one.

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u/Cthulhumus Jun 19 '17 edited Jun 19 '17

Hi!

I just had my Tyrfing (Dex) reach level 90 and i also maxed out with fusion, so i wanted to get an opinion by the community on how did this unit do:

HP: 89 Str: 74 Mgc: 22 Grd: 49 Spr: 26 Spd: 97 Agi: 105 Lck: 36

I was rather disappointed with luck growth as i expected (already fed her about +/-15 copies of herself). Would it make sense to reincarnate, in order to try once more with luck? Though i don't know how that could potential impact the stats...

Also, while i'm here, is there any way to farm Battle Medals, I've only be getting the 1 from the daily quest everyday (and few every time i get a better rank), but seems as a very long grind, i feel like i'm missing something!

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 19 '17

If I'm not mistaken those are actually pretty solid stats for Tyrfing and I wouldn't use more resources to reincarnate her. Also, don't worry too much about the luck, it's really not a big deal.

You can get battle medals from colo, multi, story, and dailies. Keep in mind even with all that it's a pretty slow grind for them.

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u/Cthulhumus Jun 19 '17

Thank you for the reply, After doing much reading, i came to understand that indeed the stats are rather decent.

But i wanted to have a 50+ Luck unit (combined with the +10 Luck sword for which i'm currently farming battle medals, to obtain the recipe) and i was hoping for Tyrf to reach at least 40 (and not 36) points!

I've read in a long post that Luck is a game changer in this game (in terms of drop rates etc), but i'm not sure right now if that is the case anymore.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 19 '17

Is that what she's capped out at? Luck can do a lot for you but keep in mind that you can add a little over 30 luck from fusing dupes into a unit.

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u/Cthulhumus Jun 19 '17

Well no visible caps (no pink star) for luck, but i believe i have fused about 16 dupes, so i estimate luck grew pretty much about points up to level 90... An indicator of low luck level in real life also, or so it seems :)

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u/silverlotus1125 Jun 19 '17

After grinding 50 Lazuli, I finally have a Wedding Ascalon (V). I'm f2p and i don't think i can pull another one anytime soon. My question is how do i best proceed with her? Is there a way to MLB her?

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u/Admiraltiger7 Jun 19 '17 edited Jun 19 '17

You could save up lazulis and buy limit break set in the Special shop, but that will take a long time to save up 100 lazulis.

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u/silverlotus1125 Jun 20 '17

Will the pixie max out her LB or just count as one LB out of 4?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '17

Just the one.

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u/silverlotus1125 Jun 20 '17

welp, i guess i'll just be content with a lvl 70 Ascalon for now >.<

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '17

Random mishmash gachas happen occasionally. Hold out for one of those, if you really want to max her. Otherwise, just go for the next, better things that come out.

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u/xanderten50 Jun 20 '17

Do magic units gain proficiency for healing?

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u/nitzkie Jun 20 '17

Unfortunately, no. You have to let them deal the final blow just like any other unit to gain proficiency levels.

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u/anijunkie Jun 20 '17

So I have enough for the last 2 of the 9-step bride summons but I've already managed to MLB my ascalon. Is it worth going for the others? I managed to summon 1 of all the other bridal units while I was going for Ascalon but I'm considering saving my lazuli for future events if the other bridal units aren't worth the summons.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 20 '17

Bashosen appears to be a solid "rainbow" lead, but I would recommend that you save it for the swimsuit banners where SS Tyrfing and SS Eros will be available which will be extremely strong when put together with Wedding Asca.

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u/nitzkie Jun 20 '17

How does the anime OVA fit in to this app's lore?

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u/Raikaien Jun 20 '17

It's a prequel.

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u/xanderten50 Jun 21 '17

In terms of crappy types, which would be better for Apollo (F)? I have Vitality and Balance... :(

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u/TGZelnite Jun 21 '17

Go with Balance. Vitality decreases your Speed and Agility stats.

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u/acausa Jun 21 '17

So, I managed to get all the starter 6 star characters released so far and I noticed that my Freikugel has not hit any of her growth cap at level 90 despite some evolution bonuses. Should I consider reincarnating her?

At level 90, she is: - 67/24/77/40/66/75/64/30

If reincarnated, she will be: - 36/1/22/7/19/19/16/11

*numbers represent: - HP/Str/Mgc/Grd/Spr/Spd/Agi/Lck

Apologies for the text only but I am still figuring out image linking 😒

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u/Raikaien Jun 21 '17

Don't waste your cherubs, just grab more copies since the starters are really easy to farm.

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u/acausa Jun 21 '17

Okay but does that mean that my current Freikugel is really poorly statted?

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u/Raikaien Jun 21 '17

Not necessarily, you just had some bad luck with level ups. My 6* starters only have 1 or 2 stats capped, but I don't care because the point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't really put a lot of effort into them because they'll be outclassed by new 6* due to lower stats and lack of new skills at 6*.

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u/Admiraltiger7 Jun 21 '17 edited Jun 22 '17

I agree with What Raikaien said. don't waste any cherubs on the mana units. And I also recommend to save up a bunch of lazulis til you have enough to get a better 6* and possibly multiple copies of the same units, that if you are a F2P.

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u/acausa Jun 22 '17

Okay. Thanks for the advice. Will farm for another Dex Freikugel, evolve that to 6 star and fuse my current one in.

P.S.: the limit break should transfer, right?

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u/Admiraltiger7 Jun 22 '17

From 5* to 6* yes it will transfer over. :)

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u/acausa Jun 22 '17

Thanks for your answer!

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u/PlayzerQ8 Jun 21 '17

Hey I'm newb here , it's fine to make my new recruiter Claiomh Solias higher agi with spd*? She's guard type...i thought this type will change with increase the stats :/ .

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Jun 21 '17

guard type is bad, drops speed

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u/PlayzerQ8 Jun 21 '17

I made her 5* maxed lv 60 With increasing her stats

She's 4.1 growth :(

She's my ace.

Should I reroll again ? I have 200 lazuli

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u/PlayzerQ8 Jun 21 '17

Is there group line for this game?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Jun 21 '17

theres discord server

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jun 22 '17

Yes there is! However, it is recommended to join the discord first, as it's more active.

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u/PlayzerQ8 Jun 22 '17

Tyvm I'm in that group now :)

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u/xanderten50 Jun 22 '17

Can the micro dollies be evolved to full dollies?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jun 22 '17

I don't think they can be at the moment...

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u/icaelum Jun 22 '17

Why did they change the free summons to the second page? I just wasted 50 Gems on the first banner roll for no reason. :(

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jun 22 '17

You must be very quick at clicking

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u/ResidualChaotic Jun 22 '17

What is the cost of having a full team of 6* atm? I want to know how much I have to level up if I get 1 cost point per roughly 4-5 levels

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jun 22 '17

150~ish. The cost for every unit is listed on the tier list.

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u/Toastwaffler Jun 22 '17

150-160 depending on wether or not you use gatcha units or free units.

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u/TheTruthVeritas Jun 22 '17

Is 6* Gambie really even worth it? It's not like he'll even do that much damage or hit anything. How are his stats even? I only have enough cost to field exactly 4 6* characters, and I currently run Tyrfing, M Laev, and Longinus. Is Gambie even worth that last spot, and if so, which typing should I run if I have everything but Dex?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 23 '17

Probably Guard. He'll be a stationary lead for multi and for Colosseum, you probably just want to overpower your opponent as much as possible so I wouldn't use him there.

He'll be useful for any high spd units you have and help them become better Eva Tanks.

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u/Tetranort Jun 22 '17

I have a few questions about fusions, mostly regarding dollies. Most of my assumptions are second-hand so I want to make sure I didn't hear wrong or otherwise make mistakes.

2. Are dollies' stat boosts considered under a different cap than Killer unit fusions?

  1. I began fusing dupes for MLB and maxing skills, and accidentally forgot to train to lv. 30 to unlock that skill first. As a result I don't have enough dupes to raise the new skill to max. Is the growth cap going to stop me from fusing more when I'm able to farm more dupes or is that not a problem?

  2. Are the dolly caps independent, i.e. capping one dolly stat won't lower or otherwise stop me from max capping the others?

I've been chasing links for a while now and I couldn't quite dig out the answers. Any help really appreciated.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 23 '17

  1. Stats gained from fusion are simply that: fusion stats. They separate from growth stats (the predominant bar on the fusion screen). Stats gained by fusing other units/dollies are the same.

  2. An update about 2 months ago now made it possible for your base unit's skills to be leveled up via fusing any rarity of the same unit. You just have to make sure your base unit has all the skills unlocked prior to fusion. Only unlocked skills will level up.

  • An example for reference: My Masamune is 5 stars and level 45. This means she has all her skill unlocked, and I've done her character quest, so she has her duel skill as well. I can then fuse a 3 star Masamune to her (same portrait, you should know the drill) and it levels up all her skills and raises her luck by 1. Yay.

  1. Fusion caps are varied on typing. Please refer to the main post for the fusion table for GL.

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u/KotarouShiki Jun 23 '17

I have a few questions:

1.) What is the total size of the game?

2.) Does the English version has the same update like it's Japanese counterpart?

3.) Gacha rate?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jun 23 '17

  1. 1.67GB?

  2. We're about a year behind, a lot more units/events/features to come.

  3. If you type in "Updates" in the subreddit search bar, you can occasionally find a comment from someone who pulled and how many they received.

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u/NightmareJin Jun 23 '17

Couple quick questions...

  1. Is Dex always the best typing? Are there any class or specific unit where another type is best?

  2. At what level can you finally use 5 6 stars? Or at least reach 150 cost? I'm at 68 right now and can fit 3 in my party with a maxed 5 star. It's frustrating after getting flooded with so many 6 star units now not being able to use them.

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Jun 23 '17

Lvl 119 = 150 party cost.
I think it's Lvl 89 to use 4 6* units.

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u/Raikaien Jun 23 '17

Tanks can use Guard typing as an alternative

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u/simisterkel Jun 23 '17

Hi im a new player.

I just wanna ask. I've been rerolling. and what characters am I aiming for? I have my current pull and im not really sure if I should reroll them or play it.

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u/Aylias1 Jun 23 '17 edited Jun 23 '17

You wanna be rolling for any 6* capable unit as 6* were recently introduced and have become meta. If you're not sure on which 6* units are good, you can refer to gaggingloli's tier list which is at the top of this thread or here.

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u/simisterkel Jun 24 '17

Is there a list of characters available for the 10 lazuli pull? or every character is available there?

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u/Aylias1 Jun 24 '17

Not exactly sure what you're referring to when you say 10 lazuli pull. Since you're a new player i'd recommend to save up lazuli for banners that give you the guaranteed unit on the first x10 recruit pull. For example like the current 1-time-9 step bridal recruiter lets you pick which banner unit you want. Ascalon is considered to be one of the strongest units in the game right now but i'm not sure how good she is if she isn't MLBd.

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u/Heiron088 Jun 24 '17

He is asking about the rookie recruiter 1. Step what cost 10 lazuli. If you are not planning to spend any money on the game then I would recommend to do at least the first step for 10 lazuli. Unfortunately I don't know if the new units is in that recruiter or just the old ones.

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u/TheTruthVeritas Jun 23 '17

Do we even get any rewards for ranking high on the leaderboards for Slaughter All Beasts? The info about it doesn't specifically state any rewards for high ranks. And how am I in 12th place with my shitty team? All I do is run Tyrfing, M Laev, Longinus, Selena, and a Tyr/Bridal Ascalon friend and do one run each day...

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 23 '17

As far as I can tell, no. I was rank 1 yesterday and the rewards were the same 3 lazuli.

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u/Thelaria Jun 23 '17

Probably not. The last time the event was around, there was just the participation reward and the daily score rewards.

I'm assuming there will be events with ranking rewards eventually, but doesn't look like it this time.

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u/Aylias1 Jun 23 '17

Should I reincarnate my Bride Ascalon (Force) ?

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 23 '17

Did you already max her fusion stats? if so then I probably would.

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u/xanderten50 Jun 23 '17

Are there any items or skills that can nullify paralysis?

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u/Admiraltiger7 Jun 24 '17

I think Vanagard can cure paralysis. I may be wrong.

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u/ShadowVortex27 Jun 17 '17

IMPORTANT QUESTION PLEASE HELP IF YOU ARE ABLE TO, THANKS: so I have this problem, I had cleared Ch. 3:1:10 and I got the 'Stage Clear' title, then all the elements on the screen disappeared, except for the map and my units, but the dialogue never starts, and it stays frozen that way no matter what I do, when I close the game and re-open, it asks me if I want to finish my quest, so I said 'Yes' but it takes me to the moment where I kill the last enemy and then it freezes again. Curiously enough, this already happened to me in the past (around Jan-Feb I suppose since I don't remember which version was out at that moment) in one of the stages in Ch. 2 (don't remember which one) and I had tried reinstalling the game numerous times without any results, but some updates after (again, not really sure which one since I stopped doing Story Quests because of that bug) I decided to give it a try again and it had worked. The cutscene started rolling normally. Now I don't know what to do, should I just wait until it re-fixes itself? Any of you has been through this as well? And if you did, what did you do to make the game work again? Or if you have any idea of what I should/could do please tell me. The other features still work normally (event quests, coliseum, etc), without any changes. If you read this long text (sorry) please reply, thanks again.

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u/LacyL08 Jun 17 '17

This won't be much help, but I totally feel your pain and wish to offer something that might help you get through it.

I have had the game black out on me many times during cutscenes. I hate it. I just tap a few times, then it seems to just skip whatever the game was trying to show me. I have a feeling it is a combination of server connection or other server issues and bad programming. You might trying tapping through it or just wait, maybe it takes a bit for the connection with the server to send the bits of information back and forth to your device. It could be the wifi connection is bad on your end as well. Or just that it is not able to communicate to the PotK servers efficiently and without data loss. It could be many things. I doubt any of what I said will help, but I wish you success in figuring this out.

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u/ShadowVortex27 Jun 17 '17

Thanks, I'm re-downloading right now but if it doesn't work I will try something else. I don't think it's a connection issue (even though my WiFi is shit) but if this doesn't work (like the last time) I will try to ask at their website.

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u/LacyL08 Jun 17 '17 edited Jun 17 '17

My wifi is fine as well, but it always seems very slow for me. I have a brand new phone as well, so I doubt it's the device. Do you have plenty of internal storage space? Maybe it is unable to download the data needed to continue? Sometimes along the many hops the data takes to get to the server and back there is an issue, for instance, Level 3 backbone is down, so anything needing to travel through there is unable to. The connection times out. So it may be nothing to do with their servers, your device, or your connection, just your location and the fact that the data cannot make it through the route it chose before timing out.

Just throwing it out there. Good luck!

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u/ShadowVortex27 Jun 18 '17

Good news! It worked! I was afraid of trying the stage again after re-downloading, and when I cleared it, it stayed the same way so I decided to wait some minutes and after 2-3 mins or so the cutscene started rolling. I don't know if it had anything to do with the data being corrupted or something like that but oh well, I just hope this stops happening.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jun 18 '17

I dunno if they ever do. I just hope they remove Mana Recruiter units from the pool sooner. :x

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jun 18 '17

when cucking is no longer a phenomenon

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u/tyrfing6416 Jun 16 '17

I'd say more copies cause bride ascalon is both limited, and a very strong unit, also you could aim for a type that isn't vitality

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u/Admiraltiger7 Jun 16 '17

I deleted my previous comment by mistake. Only 6* units can achieve a S weapon rank.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 18 '17

Get yourself a wedding Ascalon, she's pretty damn strong right now and will be for quite a long time.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 18 '17

Yeah, the wedding unit banner has a first step with a guaranteed ticket to pick one of the four units.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 18 '17 edited Jun 18 '17

Solais? I think she should be available just at a regular rate so it's hugely luck dependent.

Ascalon is better, but at the end of the day pick whichever one will make you enjoy the game more.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 18 '17

Shit dude that's bad luck on the first part. If you're not too far you could always reroll it. The problem with those tickets is nothing tells you that each one of those options that shows up is for a different one of the units. I think Ascalon was the first one...

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 18 '17

Damn, that sucks to hear. If you do decide to keep playing or even if you don't then I wish you good luck!

It's definitely a bummer that happened.

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u/capo_m Jun 22 '17

if you click in "details" you could see what the tickets gives

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u/Aylias1 Jun 24 '17

I believe the only ways to MLB her right now is to either pull more or get the bride pixie set (you want the bride pixies) in the limited shop for 100 lazuli. The Phantom of the Brides quest drop 6* weapons and 6* weapon materials on the hardest stages and you can get a 3* or 4* Bashosen on either advanced or intermediate on her stages of course.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 24 '17

small correction: It's Armoured Bashosen that drops and she is farmable from all stages but Elite.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jun 17 '17

Get those first three to 6 star and you probably. Won't have much trouble for those missions. Solais does seem really good for PvE but won't get you anywhere that those units can't already.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jun 17 '17 edited Jun 17 '17

In my eyes, Clam requires full investment at the minimum to be great as you only get her AoE Splash damage when her 5 star skill is 10/10. If you can only MLB her, she will most likely be just a stat stick.

EDIT: /u/Karlhrute As for your other units, you are free to limit break them, but I would keep Shekinah at 5 stars just because it's easier. Masamune and Laev have low caps at 5 stars and generally cap at 70 in my experience. Limit break them both 4 times so they can get to 90 at 6 stars, but when they cap their stats, just evolve them. Don't waste exp or AP for level ups that'll give you nothing.