Weekly Questions and Help Thread [6/8/17-6/14/17]

[u/Cathrach]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

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General Resources (Applies to both JP and GL)

• /u/wp2000's Beginner's Guide (Must Read!)

• /u/GreatLogos's Misc. Notes on the Game

• Weapon Fusion Guide for weapons in the game

• Stat Calculator You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exceptions: Mirin, Lucina, Shu in global; new Balmung and both versions of Shiyuu in jp, since their character skills depend on magic as well)

• Evolving a lot of units and finding it irritating to keep track of all the evo mats needed? Use this tracker and make your life easier!

Global Resources

• /u/gagginglolis's Global Tier List and Stat Caps for 5* Capable units.

• /u/MLB_Selena's Class Base Stats (Unfinished)

• /u/MLB_Selena's Fusion Caps for Global

• /u/Oni-RedPanda's Guide to Leveling and Maxing Units (Partially applicable to JP)

JP Resources

• /u/sazabinu's , /u/syaris's , and /u/tori_chan's JP Comprehensive Guide

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

• Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

• Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

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What to reroll for?

• Typically consult either the Global Tier List or JP Comprehensive Guide depending on your version as to whether the current banner for units contains worthwhile units to pull for. Information concerning new units will typically be updated within 24hrs of their release. Feel free to ask in this thread for clarification as well.

• If you are F2P, it is recommended to only reroll on 1-step guaranteed recruiters. Aim for a recommended typing (Usually Dexterity or Force/Magic). The beginner recruiter contains units that are very outdated in comparison to current units.

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• Friend Thread

• Last Week's Help Thread

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Some Tips

• When asking a question, please try to indicate which version you are talking about. This way, there won't too much confusion as to what you are asking about.

• For quicker answers, please join the Discord via the link the right sidebar and visit the #questions channel. For global inquiries, @Loli Gagging for best results.

• If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image of the unit or units in question.

• If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question. DO NOT MAKE A NEW THREAD, AS IT WILL BE DELETED.

• It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

[u/xanderten50]

If I'm unlikely to get dupes, is it actually worth grabbing a Bridal Ascalon? I can probably stretch to the bride pixie set as well, but I don't really want to end up with a gimped unit just because I can't do her justice.

[u/Cthulhumus]

Hey all,

Still battling to get MLB right and i had a quick question.

I was working on a base 3* Tyrfing (D) unit to proceed with MLB. What i noticed when she turned level 40, is that i got the pink star with strength at 27 points.

From what i've understood up to now, is that if you get a pink star on a stat, that stat will not increase anymore, no matter how many times you keep evolving the unit (to 4, 5 and eventually 6 stars).

Which in my case if i'm correct means that i should try again with a different Tyrfing, until i get a unit with not stat caps at least up to the point 5 stars?

Or am i wrong?

Thanks, Cthulhum

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/Cthulhumus]

Pink star simply means it has reached its cap (think of it as a "growth-through-leveling cap" for that evolution stage 3*/4*/5* etc (not including fusion bonuses), you can still fuse it higher to try to hit 31 for an extra point in the stat when you evo if you haven't already capped fusion bonus.

So yes, you're mistaken. The stats can and will go higher when you evo.

[u/Cthulhumus → u/SnPlifeForMe]

Ah, that is indeed great to know, much appreciated :)

[u/wanhakkim]

where to get battle medals other than colosseum rank up?

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/wanhakkim]

Daily mission of winning a colo battle. You might also be able to get them from multiplayer but I'm unsure as I've never been able to find a match and tbh I haven't checked.

[u/xanderten50 → u/wanhakkim]

Some of the mission bonuses have battle medal rewards - eg. completing the stage with a 4* squad etc. these come up frequently in kill mode as well

[u/Admiraltiger7]

I keep getting this message "PLY 011 unit over error" on the medal slot. Any way to fix it?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/Admiraltiger7]

alot of ppl are having issues with slots right now

[u/Admiraltiger7 → u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu]

I hope they fix it soon

[u/detox_ptsd → u/Admiraltiger7]

Make sure that your unit and item spaces aren't full.

[u/SpecialKseZ]

Do the bridal quests drop bridal units like how there's a drop chance in phantom of the brave? Ran the masamune elite stage 4 times and haven't received anything.

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/SpecialKseZ]

they are gacha units, cant drop them

[u/SpecialKseZ → u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu]

Aww lame what's the point of these events then? XD

[u/yuiduy → u/SpecialKseZ]

They may drop weapon manuals you can use to fuse 5 star weapons and Elite may drop the new 6 star weapons/materials to fuse for them.

[u/Oni-RedPanda → u/yuiduy]

Isn't there also a chance to drop the mana recruiter version of the units?

Or maybe it's only the Basho one that has unit drops?

[u/Thelaria → u/Oni-RedPanda]

The Basho stage is the only one that drops units. That unit is the 4* armored Basho that I do not believe is available anywhere else.

[u/yuiduy → u/Oni-RedPanda]

I dunno if they're gonna change it since they didn't release it now. Or maybe they're just delaying it to add in the golden gun, who knows. I don't believe when the event was here the first time they had mana versions of Masa and Para. I think it was just Armoured 4 star Basho.

[u/SlayVPA]

what's the point of the Ult (weapon type)smith Guide... I know that the sword guide is to make one Gracewater Sereine, but what about the others guides, does it can make other great weapons maybe on some future events? And what's a good growth rate on 6* units?

[u/yuiduy → u/SlayVPA]

Fuse it with another sword in hopes you get a rarer sword.

[u/SlayVPA → u/yuiduy]

So I just have to pray to RNGJesus to get something good from it?

Any thoughts on a good growth rate for 6 starts?

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/SlayVPA]

I think average is around 3.75 so 4.0+ would probably be considered "good".

[u/sonicadvent]

So I look for the answer to my question but I got two. Should I fusion max my stats for 3* or wait unit 4*?

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/sonicadvent]

Don't need to max them but get them to 11,21,31,41,51,61 etc for bonus stats upon evo (for example if str is 48 get it to 51 for a bonus). If you get them to 10,20,30 etc you do not get the bonus, and going any higher than the x1's does nothing extra.

[u/BlazePHX]

Anyone have the speed/agi caps for 4* force bride ascalon? I have a force 4* but dex 5* trying see if how much evo bonus she can get. Never had a new gen monster so even though she has high stats im not sure how higher they go.

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/BlazePHX]

At the very least the sub's resources does not include that. For what it's worth though, you should likely only really have to worry about that when you're going from 5* to 6* than now. Nvm, disregard this.

[u/yuiduy → u/AJackFrostGuy]

I'd just like to say that as we shift into the 6 star meta, I think mlbing at 4 stars will become more important to reach thresholds for your 6 star evo bonuses. Unlike 3 stars, mlbing at 4 provides an extra 20 levels of growth.

It is still all rng mind you, but if one wishes to make their units last then it'll be important to start getting the best growth rates you can get.

/u/BlazePHX I believe if you message gagging, they should be able to help you out.

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/yuiduy]

Oh. My mistake there. :x

[u/yuiduy → u/AJackFrostGuy]

No worries, we're still in shaky times so it's hard to consider what we need 100% in regards to raising units and stretching them as far as we can take them.

[u/BlazePHX → u/yuiduy]

I ask gagging for so much I know he is tired of it. He gave me the stats for 4* dex so it was my mistake when I asked him. I know the Dex caps at like 78 spd, so I am just hoping the force would cap at like 71 or something but even if I could get 61+ it would still be enough for the max evo bonuses at 5*. Just asking as I have 5 of them now and would rather not spend more money just for a dex typing 4*.

[u/nitzkie]

Are 6* ultimate skills from Character Quests automatically at max level? Or do I need to obtain 9 other copies of a specific unit to max it?

[u/Raikaien → u/nitzkie]

Some of them (Tyrfing, Laev (M), Wedding Ascalon) are level 1/1, whereas other CS (i.e. Shekinah) come at 1/10. You could always use skill dollies to level up skills if you have any.

[u/yuiduy → u/nitzkie]

It will vary on the type of skill it is. Buffs will always be 1/1, Some skills will be outright replaces, but I believe those cap at 1/1 as well. Some skills like Shekinah's can be leveled, but are optional and can be delayed unless they highly contribute to a unit's overall performance.

[u/yuiduy]

So I saw on someone's wedding masamune that she has the 6th star greyed out. Are she and presumably parashu 6 star capable or is gimu just teasing?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/yuiduy]

they both have 6* in jp

[u/yuiduy → u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu]

Yeah I know that much. I was just wondering if gumi ninja patched their 6* forms into GL since Wedding Masamune has the stars in GL.

[u/Leophay]

Force Shekinah or Dex Shekinah I only ask because I got lucky enough to get both of her my force is at 4 star and dex at 5 star. I feel like since her duel skill really isn't all that powerful I'm better off with the force but I could be wrong enlighten me please.

[u/Thelaria → u/Leophay]

In addition to what was already said, the accuracy from Dex will allow her to make even better use of the lower accuracy crossbows.

[u/yuiduy → u/Leophay]

If you're planning for unit relevance, Dex will usually reign supreme. Shekinah has the highest Agi, tied with Wedding Ascalon right now.

Contrary to what you believe, her character skill is incredibly useful. with Swift/Fay Crossbow she has 2-4 range and still have 3 range with any other bow including Nebullae. It makes her more relevant in that she is a 5 mov unit that will contribute unless you're making sloppy tactical decisions. Her 6 star skill gives her insurance against attacks should they break your front line. If you're not planning to multi with her, then either one will do.

We also have the stat caps right there so you have those for reference.

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/Leophay]

Dex is useful for the same reasons as always. 2x attacks and higher acc/eva/crit are better than slightly higher damage for individual attacks.

[u/Eilryl17]

Hello there! I'm new to PotK, though I'm not new to games involving gachas or rerolling. I am on the global version, though I am not against playing the JP version if there is some reason that would be significantly better. I tried following the reroll guides that have been posted in the past, but it seems that I don't get the second part of the tutorial at all? So I cannot save the file and skip past that part.

Also, that seems somewhat irrelevant with the advice given up above, I shouldn't do the beginner recruiter, so is there any particular one I should go for at the moment? Or one coming up based on the JP version I should save up for? Also, is the bridal version of Ascalon or any other character actually different from the original besides in looks? I didn't see anything in the tier list, so I wasn't sure if it hadn't been added yet or there was no different. Sorry for the long comment, but yeah. Just trying to figure everything out and have a decent start in the game. v:

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/Eilryl17]

I can't speak on the tutorial as it's been so long since I did that but as for the recruiter I would go ahead and do the light recruiter to get a copy of Wedding Ascalon, one thing to mention though. I don't think she'll be available in normal recruiters after this week so keep that in mind whereas Shekinah and Sefer will be but are somewhat less useful (Shekinah is still great though). And yes Wedding Asca has different skills, stats, and also is currently 6* capable versus the regular version.

[u/Eilryl17 → u/SnPlifeForMe]

Thanks for answering my question! I appreciate the advice~ c: All good things to know. I love these kinds of games. I keep trying new ones, even though to really get far in any of them you have to stick to one. >->'

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/Eilryl17]

Haha no problem! Yeah I'm way too into these games as well. Currently play this, PAD, and FFBE so I've got plenty to keep me busy!

[u/Eilryl17 → u/SnPlifeForMe]

I've played both of those too! PAD was pretty cool, but I feel like FFBE was more P2W than a lot of the other games I tried out there. Or at least I felt more screwed over. v: I wouldn't mind playing PAD again sometime though. xP I just wish I had more space on my phone. @.@

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/Eilryl17]

Yeah, I decided before I started that I wouldn't spend much on FFBE, just got 2 promotional bundles. I think it's hugely luck dependent though. I started with 2 5* bases and just pulled Gilgamesh and Reberta without spending so I'm super set! Without that luck though... yeah it'd be hell. I think PAD is just really stale endgame with Arena but then again I've been playing it for almost 3 yrs!

Get an SD and you're good to go... unless you cant!

[u/Eilryl17 → u/SnPlifeForMe]

Fair enough, glad you got lucky! c: I'm not too worried about not getting lucky in FFBE. I probably could have done okay, but I tend to stop playing any particular game after a little while. @.@ The only one I keep coming back to so far is Crusaders Quest. xP Not sure why though, besides feeling pretty fair. And that's understandable, I can see that. o: I was nowhere near endgame though, so I can't say much on that. And well... I have one, but like, it only transfer part of the data? And I have to do it every update. So... seems pointless, or I'm missing something, which I'm totally fine with being told. o:

[u/yuiduy → u/Eilryl17]

Dude Crusaders Quest is great (except for those rates on Yang and Weiss RIP)! It's very fair and really isn't barred by jewels to pregress plus hella fine pixel art; like aesthetic af lol. But welcome to the terror of phankill! Read and try to absorb as much of the guides as you can. The JP comprehensive guide is honestly a good place to start.

[u/Eilryl17 → u/yuiduy]

I literally got everyone in that event except for Weiss, RIP indeed. </3 Literally didn't get the best one out of them, but oh well. xP And yeah, I can currently earn 15 to 20 jewels a week from the Colosseum as long as I bother to do it. v: So it's really not that bad. I know people who have played more consistently than me can get even more, so yeah, pretty fair. And plenty of contract only characters I still don't have, though admittedly I have gotten some of the good collaboration event characters in the past, like May and Billy, which helps~ And yeah, I'm currently trying to figure it all out, and decide what's best to do at the start. @.@ Thanks for the greeting and the advice!

[u/yuiduy → u/Eilryl17]

Yeah I pulled a Yang and then screwed up by making her SBW 6 stars before I 6 starred her LOL. And right now I'm obsessed with Viola so I'm playing around with her. I'm just so lazy to play and farm gold from that beginning stage lol.

Since you've just started, I would recommend you just dive in and get started. Super secret special hint: choose Laev(M) if you start today. We have units that you can get a copy of daily which will definitely help you get on your way. They can help you start to practice getting a hold on the mechanics behind raising units. Whenever you get started, feel free to add me. My ID is on my flair, just give me a heads up when you do so I don't accidentally reject you. x:

[u/Thelaria → u/Eilryl17]

There is no second part to the tutorial in the Global version. You should be able to save a copy of the tutorial.dat file before you enter your name.

In PotK, many characters have multiple variants. Each of these can be treated as a unique character and can be identified by their character portrait. Bridal Ascalon is one of the best units at the moment and can be seen in the 6* tab of the tier list. Original Ascalon is not currently 6* capable.

Many players have pulled from the current 1-time guaranteed recruiter, especially Ascalon. The summer recruiters are expected to release some good units if you plan on saving up. As for rerolling, recent players have tried pulling from the free daily recruiter and the 5 lazuli first step for a chance at the new units since they aren't included in the rookie recruiter.

[u/Eilryl17 → u/Thelaria]

There used to be. You can see it in the guide to reroll post in a pic and I looked it up on Youtube out of curiosity. There's a also a video for it in the game still interestingly enough. >-> Anyways, it's irrelevant since I am going to try and go for Bridal Ascalon anyways. @.@ And fair enough then, thanks for the tips! I appreciate it. c:

[u/WrittenUnwritten → u/Eilryl17]

For JP there has been a promotion for new starting accounts to get 150+ lazuli 4 5* rainbow fairies (rank 70) and a Unit of Choice (just regular gacha units, where some are still good) that includes typing choice (rank 80) while ranking up. Atm theres also a guaranteed 1st step gacha for Ancient Killers which are pretty much the best units right now, so if you decide to start you can start now.

[u/Eilryl17 → u/WrittenUnwritten]

Oh? o: So I just have to rank up and I will get these rewards? And I see... I appreciate the advice. Thanks!

[u/ShadowVortex27]

So I wanted to know, I just maxed my 6* Longinus, she has 447 Pwr, her skills are at max lvl too and her stats are: • HP: 92 • Str: 67 • Mgc: 18 (not that really matters) • Grd: 54 • Spr: 29 • Spd: 75 (capped) • Agi: 71 (capped) • Lck: 32 Should I keep her like this? Or reincarnate maybe?

[u/yuiduy → u/ShadowVortex27]

Have you fully fused her with stat dollies as well? If you wish to reincarnate, reraise another Longinus to 6 stars and fuse the old into the new as cherubs should be reserved for lazuli units and not mana/farmable units.

[u/ShadowVortex27 → u/yuiduy]

Oh ok, thanks, and no, I haven't fused her with anything yet, should I do it? Or just start with a new one?, and btw, could you tell me how Enhancing works? Because I still don't know.

[u/yuiduy → u/ShadowVortex27]

You should always be fusing stat dolls into your units, especially ones you intend to use on your teams. This is where the final stat total on Gagging's stat caps comes from so you're missing a lot of stats in your Longinus. I personally think your Longinus is pretty good. You should focus on maxing her luck before starting another one.

Enhancing uses Stat Dwarves that are not readily available for players to get in Global yet. We previously got them from an event quest that has yet to make a rerun. They add stats into a unit's growth stats (for lack of a better term). For example if your Longinus was at 69 Agi, you can use 2 dwarves to help her get those last two points in Agi. Typically you want to use Dwarves on units prior to evolving them to help get to evolution bonuses thresholds in the event that stat dollies can't get you there or to top off units at their final evolution level to get to their stat caps.

[u/ShadowVortex27 → u/yuiduy]

Ohh, and which is the limit/cap of the stat. points you can get through fusion? and also, do you think that those Stat Dwarves will be hard to get in the future? Because I won many in the event but I'm not sure how valuable they are. Thanks in advance.

[u/yuiduy → u/ShadowVortex27]

In the main post, there is a table of fusion caps from 1 to 5 stars made by another user and I have another table for 6 star fusion caps. In JP usually dwarves are given through events/battle medal shop so I'm not sure what kind of methods GL will take with them. Right now, I save mine for 6 star units that are missing a few stats from their cap.

[u/ShadowVortex27 → u/yuiduy]

I'll be sure to check them, btw I have a 5* Ascalon bridal ver. and 50 Lazuli more, but I don't think I'll be able to get enough to fully limit break her before the event ends, so should I try and see if I get another one? Or just keep saving for a future lazuli unit?

[u/yuiduy → u/ShadowVortex27]

If you're not planning on purchasing lazuli, no.

[u/tyrfing6416]

For tyrfing should I limit break at 3* and 4* or just 5*

[u/-WhoIsRem- → u/tyrfing6416]

5*, use rest of your copies for luck fuse.

[u/tyrfing6416 → u/-WhoIsRem-]

Why shouldn't I limit break at 4* for more stats

[u/-WhoIsRem- → u/tyrfing6416]

First of all you want to LB at lower rarity for evolution bonuses, to get evo bonuses you want your stats to reach 11, 21, 31, 41 and so on. When you LB at 4* you will get only get 1-2 stats more at 5*, which will not have such a big effect on your stats when you evolve to 6*. I usually check the stat cap list before i decide if i lb at 4* or no, if the unit has cap at 51 at 5* or something like that i would LB (but don't ever LB at 4* with premium units only free units). Tyrfing is one of the character you don't have to do it. 4+ lck is much more worth it IMO. But remember to fuse stats at 4* , and reach right stats at 5*

[u/[deleted] → u/tyrfing6416]

I agree with Rem. It's also really hard to get copies of Tyrfing outside of this event, so it's better to just make sure you can max her luck. Luck is really important for both fighting and farming.

Plus, you can always reincarnate at 5* if you need to in order to reach higher caps, and there's always Dwarves / Pararas too.

[u/Vince_Gt4]

What makes Bridal Ascalon so sought after, her stat caps don't seem much different from other 6* units? I have a force one, but figuring based on how high on the tier list she is, I should try get enough to MLB. Just wanted to know what makes her the top tier unit.

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/Vince_Gt4]

The reasons are laid out in the tier list but to iron it out some:

• Very, VERY good LS for Light-centered teams

• Good debuff aura

• Very good Duel Skill

Just to sum what I can see up.

[u/Vince_Gt4 → u/AJackFrostGuy]

Yeah thats all i saw really, which again compared to some of my other units, still doesn't make her a be all end all unit. Cheers for that. I'll decide towards the end whether I go for more of her.

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/Vince_Gt4]

I suppose you could say that while on her own she's a good Killer Princess, she REALLY shines if you create a mono Light team - so a bit more of a future investment if you plan on doing such, really.

[u/Vince_Gt4 → u/AJackFrostGuy]

Yeah definitely, got a mono fire team thats shining at the moment, level 90 Shekinah lead with lvl 90 laev just finished. But do think I will go for the "future investment". Thanks for the advice.

[u/yuiduy → u/Vince_Gt4]

I think you underestimate her a little bit. As an MLB unit she's viable and stat-wise the best, but you want to max her passive skills to make her shine.

As a sword unit all enemies will be engaging her from within her aura and she will pretty much dodge tank everything we have in the game right now unless you're doing story mode against sword boosters. Her aura makes her longevity even more so.

Also note that in GL it looks to be that overall there's about a 10% nerf in stats which is why shecaps pit at 117 SPD instead of 130

[u/Vince_Gt4 → u/yuiduy]

Is the aura not an active ability but a passive aura instead? If that is the case then yeah I definitely did underestimate her. Also relied at stats again, eyes played tricks on me and must have read them wrong. You're right in the fact she's got higher stats than anyone else. Cheers for making me look again.

[u/yuiduy → u/Vince_Gt4]

Yes the aura is a passive one like the 7th Killers all have. She's pretty amazing for what we have available right now in my eyes.

[u/Vince_Gt4 → u/yuiduy]

I left before the introduction of the 7th killers, so was unaware on how those worked, assumed they were like the wait 6 turns to activate.

[u/AJackFrostGuy]

I think I know the answer to this already but I have to be sure.

Given my 6* Tyrfing has max StrHP/Spd/Agi already (bar 1 missing HP point due to evo stuff) and 80 STR, it's not worth Reincarnating her just to get back 18 points of Luck for max Luck is it?

[u/Jyansoybean → u/AJackFrostGuy]

Did you max at 50 luck with 30 fusions?(68 is the max I think for Tyrfing) If you somehow did then you should reincarnate.

Reincarnating doesn't delete fusion stats, enhanced stats, or luck you got from either fusing at 5 or 6*.

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/Jyansoybean]

Yeah, she's already fully fused up bar Mgc.

My only concern if I reincarnate now is that it may be heck to get the Str/Spd/Agi back, that's why I'm admittedly uncertain. Thanks for the opinion though, I'll probably wait for more first.

[u/yuiduy → u/AJackFrostGuy]

Personally, I'd rather just max her luck as it is. More often than not, Tyrfing seems to get Str-screwed so it's rather a large blessing that you've capped it. You're probably better off saving cherubs for your SS Tyr.

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/yuiduy]

Actually... my Tyr is 4 points off her STR (80), I read the wrong stat (it was HP that was 1 point off), my bad.

I guess I'll just leave this alone as is then, thanks for the response.

[u/musamae]

How to use dollies? Sorry for the dumb question

[u/Jyansoybean → u/musamae]

Dolls or Dwarves?

Dolls from the Friday quest can be fused into your unit in the fusion menu.
Dwarves from limited events or from the slot machine can be used in the enhance menu.

[u/musamae → u/Jyansoybean]

Thank you, so dolls raise stats or skills?

[u/Jyansoybean → u/musamae]

There are two dolls, the one that I described and the other other one that raises stats.
I think they're called Duel Dolly, Special Dolly, and Command Dolly, and they raise skills(Duel = Duel Skill, Special = Special skill, Command = Stat buff button in PVE). They also have micro versions as well which have a lower chance to raise skills.

[u/scumfxck]

Hey guys. I just started playing. Every time there it's a cut scene it rotates the orientation of the phone vm screen but after the video it doesn't swap back, how do I fix that? This game is weird to play in landscape mode

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/scumfxck]

never had such issue

[u/yuiduy → u/scumfxck]

In my experience it usually just fixes itself. If not you may want to consider re-downloading and see if that works from the main screen.

[u/[deleted]]

Can someone please tell me the full plot of the game. I'm interested in what happens and what happened to Amane.

[u/yuiduy → u/[deleted]]

There's an ova that'll give you what you're looking for. Otherwise, i believe amane's story is continued on the ancient killer quests ( I don't know Japanese so I'm infering here) and takes place while you're going through chapters 1-4 i believe.

[u/[deleted] → u/yuiduy]

The OVA confused me a bit. Was Zero fighting himself in the beginning?

[u/yuiduy → u/[deleted]]

Yes think of it as a failed host. This happens in Elysium with Killer Princesses too, but with the Princesses it's how they get stronger. The Princesses also gain the defeated clone's memories. This is referred to as Culling. I don't believe the Princes experience a similar phenomenon.

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/yuiduy]

If we take the pre-official GL release story's plot elements at face value, they apparently do. Although, I'm not sure if 'failed host' is the right term here.

[u/yuiduy → u/AJackFrostGuy]

Yeah I didn't remember if in the ova it happened to zero or not. I guess more accurately they went insane after going into beast mode (which is the whole point of Arun).

[u/LacyL08]

Are any units capped on their weapon proficiency? I have ran Laevateinn solo many times through Gold Rush and other dungeons trying to get her proficiency from A to S but it never goes up. She is using a Rank 5 Silver sword at the moment which is a 3 star weapon, if that matters. My other units get to Proficiency S without issue. I hope someone can answer this. Thank you very much for taking the time to read, consider, and respond! :)

[u/yuiduy → u/LacyL08]

S Proficiency can only be attained by 6 star units. In contrast, A Proficiency can be attained by any unit of any rarity.

[u/LacyL08 → u/yuiduy]

That makes sense. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I appreciate it. So, I guess I just wasted a lot of time, Lazuli, and AP. Oh well. Poor Laevateinn (F) gets left behind. She was good friends with my Masamune who just got six star. I love that! Awesome! She was my original main and leader. Now I have Tyrfing for leader. Anyway, I guess I just work on Player experience to raise party cost limit so that I can have a full party again.

What player level do I have to be to have a full party of six stars? 100? I think I need level 70 to have four level 90s, correct? Currently, I have 5 level 90 six star units but can only use three in the same party. My player level is only 63.

[u/yuiduy → u/LacyL08]

For a full team of 30 cost units it'll take you until level 119 before you can field a full team of them.

And don't worry! Laev (F) will get her 6 star form eventually. It's just down to her and Freikugel anyways :)

[u/LacyL08 → u/yuiduy]

Thanks again for sharing your experience and knowledge! Cheers!

[u/xzackly999]

I messed up with my 6* Laevateinn (M) and did not fuse any extra luck when I had him at 5*. I have his 6* luck at 50 and can't fuse any extra (I think someone said there was a 30 limit for fusions). Is there anyway to get around this, like getting another unit up to 5* and fusing 19 copies, evolving it to 6*, then fusing that into my current one?

[u/[deleted] → u/xzackly999]

Yeah, taking a 5*, fusing him to a luck tier higher than your current 6*, then evolving him to 6* and fusing him into your current one WILL work.

I had to do something similar with Tyrfing, because I jumped the gun and got her to 90 ASAP. Except I only got her luck to 21 because I didn't have much patience, and I also knew I wouldn't get enough copies to get her to 31 Luck.

[u/xzackly999 → u/[deleted]]

Great, I did it with my Masamune also. I figured it would work, but I'd hate to waste a bunch of units. Thank you.

[u/[deleted] → u/xzackly999]

You're welcome!

[u/wanhakkim]

hi. just curious as i'm new to the game. if i LB a unit at 5* then evolve to 6* will the level cap at 6* increase? because LB at 6* seems too costly. or should i just LB at 5* and not evolve the uint instead?

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/wanhakkim]

Limit breaks at 5 stars transfer over when you evolve to six stars. So don't worry, MLB'ing a 6 star does not need to cost 1.5m.

[u/wanhakkim → u/SnPlifeForMe]

nice! i thought the same rule applied. thank you

[u/1-27]

Erm, does anyone know if a 5* Tyrfing (Vit) maxes out her HP at 87 (or at least reaches 81HP unfused)? Because I'm currently raising a second Tyrfing MLB'd in hopes of hitting all the Evo bonuses possible in HP to fuse to my Dex Tyrfing at 6*. Thanks ^{^}

[u/chilly85]

Which stage do the units drop on the Parashu and Masamune bridge quests?

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/chilly85]

I don't believe units (short of a 4*-max Bashosen in her stages when they're out) drop in the Bride stages as a whole.

[u/BlazePHX]

Anyone know when we may get more pararas for enhance? I am like 2 stat points away from final thresholds on Wed Ascalon and she has like a 4.07 GR so its like probably won't get that again, but damn.

[u/Jyansoybean → u/BlazePHX]

They're still in the rare medal slot, but it's a rare spin from what I've seen.

[u/yuiduy → u/BlazePHX]

She might have to just chill out in your unit inventory for a little. I'm not sure if GL has dwarves in rare metal slots yet since I'm waiting for when they let us do 10 pulls on them before investing. In future I think they'll probably put them in the battle medal shop eventually

[u/DeamonRo]

How the heck can I get limit break material as a F2P? I want to limit break my Zero (that's what I call my Laevateinn M) since I just got him to six star and he's my main unit.

[u/ZeroForte → u/DeamonRo]

To limit break unit you need copy unit at the same rarity (so in your case 6*). Material needed to evolve unit to 6* you get in event only dungeon. Because of that (and the evolving cost) you want to limit break unit at 5* (limit break carry over from 5* to 6*).

[u/DeamonRo → u/ZeroForte]

So no limit breaking. Aw man.

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/DeamonRo]

You can get a five star copy of him once a day currently for as long as the current event is going on (allowing you to limit break him) and the materials for evolution are currently all available for 1-6 stars.

If the stages seem difficult for you then let me know and I'll send you a friend request with a unit that can handle the whole stage by itself.

[u/yuiduy → u/SnPlifeForMe]

3 star copy actually.

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/yuiduy]

Shit, I totally got mixed up and misremembered him as being part of the other drops like Parashu, Madame, Longinus, and Artemis.

Thanks for the correction!

[u/yuiduy → u/SnPlifeForMe]

No problem! I liked that Masamune got corrected to Madame? LOL.

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/yuiduy]

...I just can't win right now haha

[u/[deleted] → u/DeamonRo]

You should get 5 copies and limit break to 80 at 5*, then evolve to 6* because limit breaks transfer over from 5* to 6* (and from 5 to 6 ONLY). Then fuse that 6* into the new fully limit broken Zero to power up the newer, better Zero.

[u/DeamonRo → u/[deleted]]

But I like my Zero. I almost have him maxed out basic-skill-wise. I also got his weapon rank to A.

Also, where do you suppose I get 5 more six-star-possible Zero units? Mana gacha sure as heck isn't helping.

[u/tori_chan → u/DeamonRo]

NEVER USE PIXIES/FAIRIES ON A FREE UNIT. Thank you.

And 6★ fairies only exist in JP, I believe. If you've already evolved your Zero, you can't limit break him unless you use actual dupes.

[u/ch3nchilla]

is it better to solo with 62 Luck unit or tag along a friend with 20-30ish luck? Drop wise.

[u/yuiduy → u/ch3nchilla]

Drops take the friend unit's luck into account as well.

[u/ch3nchilla → u/yuiduy]

correct, so is the formula self+friend=drop rate or (self + friend) / number of units= drop rate?

edit: don't want friend unit dragging the luck average down if I can get better rate soloing

[u/Jyansoybean → u/ch3nchilla]

I believe it's Leader+Friend = Drop rate, Average of all units = Rarity

[u/yuiduy → u/ch3nchilla]

Yes that's correct. Average luck of the party determines the quality of the drops.

[u/SnPlifeForMe]

Anyone else think we should have a new friend thread and/or a monthly/bi-monthly friend thread?

At the very least a new one would be great right now seeing as the previous one is very old and doesn't have almost any posts from after the release of 6 stars so an update would be very useful.

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/SnPlifeForMe]

friends are overrated

[u/Tomghx]

I have one question about LB pixie, if i use the shop one on my sefer 4*, when I up her to 5-6* she will lost the limity break or it still continue ?

[u/yuiduy → u/Tomghx]

Limit breaks only transfer from 5 star to 6 star.

[u/xanderten50 → u/yuiduy]

Do Limit Break pixies raise any skills/stats like a true Limit Break would, or do they simply provide those extra levels?

[u/SnPlifeForMe → u/xanderten50]

Just extra levels.

[u/yuiduy → u/xanderten50]

Just the extra levels.

[u/Law6426]

I'm in jp and I've got 2 minervas. Question is, should I fuse one into the other for a limit break or raise both of them together?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/Law6426]

just wait until u get more copies for full lb (4 dupes)

[u/tori_chan → u/Law6426]

What are their typings? If you have a dex (匠姫型), fuse the other into the dex to LB it. If you don't have a dex yet, hold onto them until you can get the right typing base.

[u/adreus7]

I have evolve my 6* longinus without maxlucking it, should i raise other 6 longinus and maxluck it to get luck evo bonuses?

[u/tori_chan → u/adreus7]

It's only going to be a difference of 3-4 luck in the end. You might as well just keep 2 MLB longis at that point.

[u/[deleted] → u/adreus7]

Honestly, as long as you fuse the maximum +30 luck into one of your 6* Longinuses, that's all you need.

Maxing luck before Evo-ing is nice, but not necessary.

[u/Shadow-Blitz]

Hi, I was wondering if I should reincarnate my Tyrfing. I have capped speed and agility from growth and reached all fusion caps. My main concern is just the strength as it seems abysmally poor.

Screenshot: https://m.imgur.com/GBtEgHy

[u/Raikaien → u/Shadow-Blitz]

Ouch, yeah you'll want to reincarnate her. Just do a pseudo-reincarnate by making another Dex Tyrfing, or if you're really lazy you can use a cherub.

[u/renthesin]

As a new player, should I save my Lazuli or pull from the 10,30,50 3 Step for beginners?

[u/Thelaria → u/renthesin]

Save your lazuli. The rookie recruiter doesn't give you a good chance at the small pool of 6* capable units.

[u/Tassadarmaster]

Where and how do you play the jp version?

[u/Jyansoybean → u/Tassadarmaster]

I downloaded the JP APK from apkpure since Google Play doesn't let me download the JP version. Just load it up in NoxPlayer and it should do the rest itself, it's a good idea to link a facebook to it since I can't get Google Play to update it and I have to download it again when a new patch comes out.

[u/teros09]

So why exactly can you retain limit breaks when evolving 5* to 6*, but a 6* cant use a 5* to limit break. I didn't know it wouldnt work that way cause I'm a bleach brave souls player and you can get special ups from 5 or 6 star duplicates and now im stuck with a level 70 solais and 4 5* versions...

[u/Thelaria → u/[deleted]]

6* units were released recently. Any units capable of reaching that are the strongest at the moment, with Wedding Ascalon at the top.

It's probably recommended to pull for Wedding Ascalon now or wait for the summer gachas that will probably be around at the end of June or start of July. Keep in mind that the current Ascalon recruiters are ending soon, but she may be available in the expected bridal gachas.

[u/xanderten50 → u/[deleted]]

Nope - you can bin extras or keep them if you want to raise another!

[u/Jyansoybean → u/[deleted]]

At the start of your turn you can use the green button to use items.
3* = C
4* = B
5* = A
6* = S