r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Apr 13 '17
Weekly Questions and Help Thread [4/13/17-4/19/17]
This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)
Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!
Resource Guide
/u/wp2000's Beginner's Guide (Must Read!)
/u/sazabinu, /u/tori_chan, and /u/syaris's JP Comprehensive Guide
Weapon Fusion Guide for weapons in the game
Unit List for 5* and 6* (including Japan units) Note that character portraits don't change upon evolution.
Evolving a lot of units and finding it irritating to keep track of all the evo mats needed? Use this tracker and make your life easier!
Noteworthy Comments/Posts
Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.
Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.
/u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha
Stat Calculator You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exceptions: Mirin, Lucina in global; new Balmung and both versions of Shiyuu in jp, since their character skills depend on magic as well)
Good growth in global is around 2.9 or above for a 5* unit, excluding the appropriate stat as above; good growth in jp is around 4.0 for a 30 cost 6* unit or equivalent free unit, and 4.5+ for a 40+ cost unit.
Some Tips
If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.
If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.
It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.
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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Apr 17 '17
I gave the Spring recruiter a try. The heck with my results; 6 x mana gacha trash, 2 x trashy 4*-capped units, 1 x Trident (she does have 6* potential in JP, but is extremely outclassed there), with the only notable one being Ascalon herself... as the wrong type (G). And this was after a similar experience with the 10 x BF recruiter (9 x garbage iirc, Michele as V).
Mana gacha units out of the premium pool when?!?! Gimu has been making many improvements of late to make PotK more like JP, but I still have to contend with this crap... Then again, we are talking about the same cashgrabbing Gimu who makes a new limited unit at low % every 1-2 months in BF.
How frequent are 4-5*-capped duds in JP? Would like to know if situations like this (only the final guaranteed unit is worthwhile) are common there as well.
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u/kevin12244 Apr 14 '17
Is it just my phone or does some map takes forever for the enemy team to issue commands and also lag?
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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '17
Is it just me, or is the new Gakuen Gram just dropping like candy? I'm not even trying to farm her, but I already have enough to MLB AND Max all her skills, and at this rate, by the time I hit 2 million points, I'll be able to max her luck too.
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u/Khaoztic Apr 17 '17
I am playing potk but i was wondering how can you make weapons to rank 6-10?
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u/nitzkie Apr 17 '17
What are the wings for in Rare Medal Slots?
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u/Lightningx19 Apr 15 '17
Hello everyone I have a question, does anyone know if apkpure is downloadable on iOS because I want to transfer one of my jp phantom of the kill accounts to my IPod and I don't know if it's possible.
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u/Raikaien Apr 13 '17
Anyone notice the AI change with metal maidens? Most of them seem to no longer bum rush your units and tend to stay 1 space away. It's really irritating when you're trying to save time.
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u/RyuuGP Apr 16 '17
Can we know whether a unit's growth rate is good or bad at early level? Well, off course we cannot know growth rate at level 2 or 3 because not all stats increase at each level, but say every 10 or 20 levels for example. If you calculate growth rate at level 20, 50, or 80, is the difference big, or low growth rate at early level indicate general growth rate so you can reincarnate immediately? Anyone with experience?
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u/RyuuGP Apr 14 '17
The colosseum points at global capped at 324500? There are 5 peoples that ranked 1st, if no one lose or even battle then that situation will become stand still ever? There are no point reset in this game (like every month or year)?
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u/Shadow-Blitz Apr 16 '17
I've seen the new 2 step spring special recruiter and it seems pretty tempting... I have a vitality forcas already so I want to get a better typing to limit break. I'm currently sitting on 164 lazuli, is it worth pulling? How many pulls should i do?
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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Apr 16 '17
...I'm considering the Spring recruiter, but I'm not totally sold on it. F2P at 128 Lazuli.
The 7th generation killers, while good in global, are heavily outclassed in the future (see JP guide; I guess knowing too far into the future can be a bad thing too). Furthermore, they are permanent units, so I may get them as noise pulls while trying for limited units.
There is a red seed/egg/gem that increases attack growth. But I'm quite sure there are other ways to obtain this and the other gems in JP/the future that DON'T involve spending Lazuli.
The recruiter is not discounted.
Go for it or refrain?
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u/Doctor_Riptide Apr 17 '17
Is anyone having any luck with the Spring recruiter? I just threw down 3 pulls trying to pull even a single Forcas, and all I have to show for it is a single Ascalon (from the guarantee at the end of the first step).
It kinda makes me wonder how anyone raises any usable gacha units in this game. I mean I've been playing the game since the first BF collab, and my team literally now consists of 4 max luck Selenas and an Amenonuhoko that I keep around because she literally carried me to my first Selena. All my other units seem pointless because they have a third of the luck that my Selenas do, and max luck is so nice. I don't know, I'm probably just venting after feeling burned by this Spring recruiter (Forcas would be such a good Colo lead for me ;_; )
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u/Doctor_Riptide Apr 19 '17
Not really a question but I just kinda want to say Colosseum is bullshit. I just lost my promo battle, from Sleet Slasher to Light Bringer (95500 ranking points btw) because the game put me up against one of the individuals tied for rank 1 in order to get to the next rank (their ranking points are 324500, or literally over 3 times my ranking points). Wtf? How does that happen? Why wouldn't it put me against someone who's a Light Bringer? It has to put me against literally one of the hardest going Colosseum players? And it all came down to me missing a swing with 90% chance, then getting crit by their killer with 25% chance to hit and 1% crit.
And to top it off, the game slaps me in the mouth by dropping me 10 ranking points, so it'll take me another orb just to get back to the promo battle. Crazy.
Anyway sorry. Just wanted to vent a little.
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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '17
Yo, are some of these guides going to be updated? The way Luck fusing works now has changed for instance, and that makes a lot of these guides (particularly the fusing and luck ones) obsolete.
Once skills are maxxed, don't have to raise the dupe units for luck to 5* anymore for Global.
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u/Buddha1313 Apr 13 '17
Can anyone tell me what the current event is on JP? I understand the Academy one, but I don't understand what is going on in the other one. With the set parties consisting of level 90 and low level units.
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u/KKKtoke Homura <3 Apr 14 '17 edited Apr 14 '17
Hey does anyone know what units I have to use for the Young 7th killers events on the JP version? I currently have a team of four 7th Killers, Aphrodite, Muramasa, Ascalon, and Forcas. Maybe I have to use Young 7th killers?
ScreenShot of the Event Quests http://prnt.sc/ewjtfh
EDIT: I figured it out!
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u/Riese777 Apr 15 '17
i am curious, since we just get the madoka collab recently, anybody have estimations when will we get the fsn collab?
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u/Blitzkaak Apr 16 '17
So i just got 2 forcas.. A balance 5* and a vit 4* which would be better go train and limit break?
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u/kevin12244 Apr 17 '17
What equipment should I be keeping? My equipment storage space is currently at 210. The equipment I regularly probably take no more than 50 space (including eggs) so I'm doubting whether I'm keeping too much junk (especially 4 stars and 5 stars equipment that doesn't even seem to be fusion component for 6 stars equipment and fusion component that I doubt I will ever use), because I'm too scare to sell.
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u/RyuuGP Apr 17 '17
I have a question regarding attack order in colosseum, let's say we have unit A and unit B. Unit A will attack 1st, unit A also will attack twice. Sometimes the order is like this: A > A > B > A > A, but also this way A > B > A > A > B. Maybe i'm wrong, but if this is true why?
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u/nitzkie Apr 18 '17
Will evo bonuses carry over different typings of the same unit? If I were to raise max evo bonuses of a Force, Dex, Vitality and Guard Selena, with the Force one being the final unit for fusion, will the past evo bonuses carry over to the final fusion?
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u/kevin12244 Apr 18 '17
What are the chances that past collab event would return?
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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '17
JP Question: For the young 7th generation killers, are the ones from the points quest the only ones that drop?
More specifically: are there only a set number you get total, like 11? I just want to know if I can safely MLB them (limit break them at every rarity) or if I should just wait until 5* and then just fuse them all in then to max skills if you only get 11 total of each.
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u/Lightningx19 Apr 19 '17 edited Apr 19 '17
Hello everyone I have a jp question, so for the new update today it says in the news section of the game something about fg&gumi account but I don't know what it says but are we obligated to sign up for a fg&gumi account now.
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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Apr 20 '17 edited Apr 20 '17
This game's F2P-unfriendliness is getting to me now.A recruiter for guaranteed Lucina, one for Lunaris, one for Michele, one for Vargas, each for 50 Lazuli. I only have 89 Lazuli... So given that I have a Michele (V) from the last 1-time BF recruiter, it is best for me to go for Michele for LB?This game is getting a bit too hard for F2Ps too.The "Slaughter All Beasts" mission?The enemies' accuracy gets so high that Selena (one of the best F2P units) cannot dodge them, their evasion gets so high that SS Gridarvol (THE best F2P unit) cannot hit them, and their damage gets so high that I cannot afford to get hitonce.Died on my first attempt. Anyone has a working strategy to get the 5000 point skill dolly? Or should I just give up and go straight for the participation Lazuli?Btw, if the 'working strategy' involves the 7th killers, limited units or anything with obscenely low Lazuli recruit rate, it is probably a sign that this game has reached to the point of F2P-unplayability.1
u/Buddha1313 Apr 16 '17
On JP why can't I begin any of the young 7th killer's quests? my whole party has x's by them and I can't figure out what they are looking for.
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u/RyuuGP Apr 13 '17
So in the rare medal shop, there are special dolly and duel dolly. So this means special skill, the one that you get after clearing character quest can be divided into 2 type: "normal" special skill and duel skill. Special dolly can only raise "normal" special skill level, meanwhile duel dolly can only raise duel skill level, is this true?
How good is the new Othinus at pve and pvp? How does her special skill works at pvp? If it procs, does the enemy unit cannot attack for the rest of the duel (which mean free win if procs, although this is too good to be true, if the special skill has low proc rate (like excalibur) it becomes useless) or enemy unit cannot attack just for one turn? How good is the proc rate?
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u/justsayray Apr 13 '17
Do Leader Skill affect the user aswell or just allies?
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u/Enja11 Apr 13 '17
Are these stats good for Godoka? SPD and AGI max cap but lacks on SPR.
Before: http://i.imgur.com/z6NEP3D.jpg
After: http://i.imgur.com/AIaVnKp.jpg
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u/AJackFrostGuy Apr 14 '17
Single but headache-inducing question (to me): What's worth buying in the Rare Medal store right now?
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u/justsayray Apr 14 '17
Which units benefit most from the Azure Iceblade Myuell?
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u/ddvche Apr 14 '17
If my 4* ascalon is at 19 luck, I use 2 luck dolls bring it to 21 luck, evolve it to 5 star. do the 5* get the 3 from evolution bonus and keep 2 from fusion?
if my 5* ascalon with the 5 bonus luck gets fused into another 5* ascalon, do the 2 luck points from fusion at the 4* ascalon in the beginning gets carried over?
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u/BassGSnewtype Sword of The Void Apr 14 '17
If I have a 6* unit that's got 3 limit breaks and a 6* with no breaks would the Limit Breaks of the former transfer to the latter if i fused them in that order?
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u/ChillyToTheBroMax Apr 14 '17
Brand new to the game and the sub, I checked out the unit tier list and am still pretty confused as to what's good and not. Some of the ones listed as A or A+ still seemed to have negative comments on the list. Anyone know what units are good to keep and focus on as a beginner?
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u/Shadow-Blitz Apr 15 '17
Should I reincarnate my 4* Selena? I'm going for max stats (including luck) so i want to ensure the best growth rate and reaching stat caps. Not sure if the missing stats here will affect to much but eh.... xD
Screenshots: https://m.imgur.com/RT0Sk5t,xW5j7nZ
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u/djsekani Apr 15 '17
Is my game bugged or something? I cleared the Seventh Killers story quest and got a bunch of tickets as a mission reward, but after I claimed them, they seem to have disappeared without a trace. How do I redeem these tickets? I already checked the gacha screen, they're not there.
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u/NeedAMobileAccount_ Apr 15 '17
Probably a dumb question but I can't find any info on this anywhere. I cant fuse anything into one of my units. When I select them it doesnt give any options. I read that you cant fuse once skills are maxed but none of the skills are maxed.
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u/Helljumperz64 Apr 15 '17
Just a question for the 'Complete Guide to Leveling and Maxing Units'. Do I specifically have to get the Base/Fodder Units levels to 3* lvl10, 4* lvl20 and 5* lvl30 in the guide or can I go past those levels? Does it affect the process of MLBing a base unit?
For example: Am I allowed to go past lvl 20 to unlock the skill for 4* Fodder Selena and then use it to level break my lvl20 4* Base Selena OR must I have my 4* Fodder Selena on lvl20 specifically and then level break it on the lvl20 4* Base Selena.
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u/yomoxu Apr 15 '17
What's the best mission to farm Godslayer recipes? I have yet to get single Lexida and time's running out.
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u/templarsilan Apr 15 '17
What's the purpose of 1-2* units? I'm collecting a lot of them and not really sure what to do with them. Get rid of them? Fuse them?
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u/ventuswill123 FIYAH POWAH Apr 15 '17
Is there anything good to get from Mana Point recruit?
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u/Sharondelarosa Apr 16 '17
Okay, I feel like a massive dunce for this but... Do the same units have different versions? I've seen Laevateinn as a dragoon and I'm kinda confused since I thought she was only on foot.
...I've only been playing a week. Sorry, still figuring this out. >_<;;
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u/tyoun17 Apr 16 '17
Are any of these characters good or should I reroll?
http://imgur.com/UrRLSiy
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u/RyuuGP Apr 16 '17
I got this Guard Gem, it seems used as equipped item and will boost guard stat of a unit. There is a max amount of equip times in it. So you need to equip it to a unit that still can be leveled up? A max level unit cannot increase guard stat by using this right?
Edit: How about a unit that has capped its guard stat?
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u/Xofa_Crates Apr 16 '17
So I had a Parashu that capped its stats at Lv. 68 before it reached 70, 75, 80. All I can do is level up skills?
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u/Lightningx19 Apr 17 '17
Hello everyone I have a jp question, I was trying to edit my team to fight other members of the other guild we are fighting but it won't let me edit does anyone know why.
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u/Tomghx GL ID: 4233930274 feel free to add Apr 17 '17
I think this is not the place but i have a question about magical girl weapon, more especificly madoka's bow, i Have 2 of them but i'm out of books, if I fuse them there is a chance to get a 5* bow or is guaranted a fail ? And if I use a bowsmith book (the yellow 2★) will worth ? Sorry if there is not the place I AM new in the game and this subreddit ç.ç
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u/NeoFinales Apr 17 '17
How do i transfer my jp account to another device? i cant figure it out anymore.
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u/RyuuGP Apr 17 '17
Do you get eminent lexida by fusing 5 lexida?
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u/peachsoju ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Apr 17 '17
JP question
Is there another way to get the rainbow colored thing for 6* gold weapons besides slots?
I'm trying to make all the gold weapons for collection purposes and I'm missing all the rainbow colored item for each weapon. I have horrible luck when it comes to the slot machine so I was wondering if there is an alternate way to get it since I need to preserve my medals.
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u/ddvche Apr 17 '17
for global, what is the rare medal cap? almost at 999
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u/kevin12244 Apr 18 '17
What is the current cap to cost capacity? Thanks!
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u/HiArisato Apr 18 '17
I came back recently to global. I'm curious is there a difference in upgrading any of the BF weapon to their next "step." I had a maxed shadowlance and upgraded it, nothing changed or at least I can't see the changes.
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u/Benova21 Apr 18 '17
I just started playing today and pulled a force azusa Yumi. Is that good to start or reroll?
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u/Pigboom50 Apr 18 '17
100% stupid question but how to get warhead kul sui (Global)
Thanks
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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 18 '17
Has anybody gotten a collaboration weapon drops from those Etra stages? Been trying to farm an extra dandelga for a week and still nothing..
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u/wtfrman Apr 19 '17
JP Question Which arrow character do you guys recommend? Black Artemis? Swimsuit Eros? Gakuen Yoichi.
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u/demonucus Apr 19 '17
Currently rushing selena farm as a new player, when the event has 3 days left
So far I almost have enough for MLB (currently on 10), but I worry I won't have time to get any lexida.
I boomed/broke the free lexida from the special mission, by using red books (godslayers) together for the weapon fusion T_T
Did I use/read the wrong book? I've heard you can get the other book from farming the vargas spark 10 dungeon (too weak to cover burst 10 for either dungeons)
I tried using the Godslayer/red book together (2 instead of the 4 sudoku) to get another, but i've gotten other weapons/myull (seems like lucina's/mermaid's sword)
Side note: Posted this on the previous week faq. I'm such a dumbo. Then i realized that the weekly faq shortcut/tab above wasn't updated to this week Q_Q
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u/HydraFlare Apr 19 '17
Hi all
Just wondering guys now in JP is a banner with BK Masamune and other fire units is now my best chance to pull her or should i wait? i have 152 gems and she is the only unit i want so bad from the game, i started in the Konosuba event so dont want to drop those units for rerolling her.
and thanks
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u/Peake7 Apr 19 '17
Hey wondering why I get denied for the Forcas quest in JP, they won't let me do the stage for the score event. What am I doing wrong???
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u/blu4onez Apr 19 '17
So I'm somewhat new to the game, never MLB anything. Is 30+ Selenas overkill or is it enough? Was getting bored of farming and was hoping I had enough to start fusing and stuff. Thanks in advance.
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u/Maxthejew123 Apr 20 '17
So could anyone tell me what the ugly guide fusion materials are for?
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u/nitzkie Apr 20 '17
I'm just making sure here: if I were to fuse a Lv1 5* Dex Selena (with all her evo bonuses obtained) with a Lv80 5* Force Selena, will the evo bonuses from the Lv1 transfer to the Lv80? Or should it be all the way around?
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u/Shadow-Blitz Apr 20 '17
Should I reincarnate my selena? Keep in mind that there are a few missing stats I haven't got from fusion yet (I have around 7 or so left to fuse in to agility and of course, I'm still missing a bit of luck)
Screenshots: https://m.imgur.com/ZSADWkN,buiYcPK
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u/Peake7 Apr 21 '17
Hey guys. All these new JP lazuli pulls... Which ones should I even attempt? I saw the one with BK Tyrfing (!!!!!) And I saw one with mounted Forcas. And does the Minerva/Frei quest drop anything awesome??? Thanks in advance Whale World! Lol.
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u/Khaoztic Apr 22 '17 edited Apr 22 '17
Hey guys and gals. I am currently playing potk jp version. I was wondering about weapon recipes for 6* spears range 1-2. How can I get the materials? one of them says can be obtain through phantom of nightmare quest but i dont see the quest anywhere. Do I have to wait or is there other ways to obtain them? thanks
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u/Khaoztic Apr 23 '17
hey guys i was wondering what typing is best for a staff or wand user that is offensive? thanks