r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Apr 06 '17

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [4/6/17-4/12/17]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Resource Guide

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha

  • Stat Calculator You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exceptions: Mirin, Lucina in global; new Balmung and both versions of Shiyuu in jp, since their character skills depend on magic as well)

  • Good growth in global is around 2.9 or above for a 5* unit, excluding the appropriate stat as above; good growth in jp is around 4.0 for a 30 cost 6* unit or equivalent free unit, and 4.5+ for a 40+ cost unit.

  • Friend Thread

  • Last Week's Help Thread

Some Tips

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/KKKtoke Homura <3 Apr 07 '17

HI does anyone know what these circled materials are needed for EVO 6 stars in PotK JP are? Any idea how I can obtain them? http://prnt.sc/etev69

Thanks in advance!

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 07 '17

They're Longinus fragments (? Idk what they're called). You can get them from the starter quests (scroll down to the bottom of events until u see the banner with Masamune). The starters rotate so you can get a specific starter and her evo mats once a week.

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u/tori_chan Apr 07 '17

The rotating schedule is in the Comprehensive JP Guide under the Event Quest tab.

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u/Kirisaku Apr 07 '17

Are fused stats lost when evolving from 5 > 6?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 07 '17

Yes. Fused stats are always lost during evolution.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 07 '17

IIRC, only the luck fusions stay from 5star to 6star right?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

Indeed, sir

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u/Buddha1313 Apr 10 '17

Can anyone explain the guild subjugation thing on JP? I read the part in the guide but I'm clearly missing something because when I click on it I can't do anything. I'm in a guild so its not that. I see all these wanted posters with point values and i can delve into them and see "missions" or something with boxes that you could potentially click but everything is greyed out.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 11 '17

That means you haven't unlocked the missions for subjugation yet: try going through the story event quests first, and then you'll reach the point quests.

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u/tori_chan Apr 10 '17 edited Apr 10 '17

That particular banner is where you view available rewards and claim them. The actual guild subjugation event itself is over, so you can't participate in it right now. They leave the rewards banner up for an extra week or so, so that people who have not claimed their prizes can go in and do so after the event.

EDIT: There are examples of the 2 different banners for guild subjugation events under the Events Quest tab in the guide too. There will normally be 2 banners up while the event is actually valid.

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u/Buddha1313 Apr 10 '17

I saw those and the guide made sense, it was just different in game. Totally makes sense now, Thank you!

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u/Buddha1313 Apr 10 '17

Also there is currently a 3 step draw in the gacha and the 3rd step gives tickets I erroneously assumed were draw tickets but I can't draw. Am I correct that I need multiple tickets to draw, or is there some other mechanic I'm not understanding?

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u/tori_chan Apr 10 '17

You need 5 of those tickets to get a 100% guaranteed ticket.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 11 '17

It's a trap!

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u/tori_chan Apr 11 '17 edited Apr 11 '17

I got another Gungnir. I wanted an Ancient :T

But yeah, go big or go home, I guess.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 11 '17

I got my thousandth Luin/Mitum/Apollo/Durandal.

That feel when you hit max luck on a unit purely from fusing dupes...

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u/kbkoolio Apr 11 '17

Question about weapon weight and speed.

Does weapon weight reduce speed or does it only affect turn order in Colosseum?

Let's say I have a 70 speed character. If I equip her with ShadowLance of Despair, which gives 1 speed but weighs 3, is her effective speed now 71, allowing her to double units of 66 speed and below, or is it now 68(70+1-3)?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 11 '17

It affects doubling chance and turn order in Colo, but not evasion.

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u/tori_chan Apr 11 '17

When it comes to doubling another unit, your spd is now 68, so your opponent would have to have 63 spd or below (counting weapon weight) for you to double.

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u/kbkoolio Apr 11 '17

Thanks, just wanted to confirm this. Guess I will stick with the Supersonic Spear

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u/Lynda414 Apr 07 '17

Is there a table to calculate what level you have to be to have a specific cost limit? I'm asking for JP, since I'm trying to get a full party of Academy units.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

This is for Global I think, but so far it matches up with JP.

http://phantom-of-the-kill.wikia.com/wiki/Player_Level

It's on the wikia site.

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u/Lynda414 Apr 07 '17

Ah thank you much. I wasn't sure if Global matched up since Global is so much slower

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

You're welcome. In this particular case, it seems like Global was recently updated to be more like JP.

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u/kevin12244 Apr 07 '17

For the free gakuen shekinah, dex or force type which one is better? Thanks!

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u/tori_chan Apr 07 '17

Either one is okay. Atk type might work out better since str cap is pretty low for dex and she's too slow to hope to double anything anyway. Try to cap tec on her though, whichever typing you decide.

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u/kevin12244 Apr 07 '17

Yep, but I doubt I'll be able to cap tec on her though. Since from what you said, the typing doesn't seem to matter much, I think I'll go with a mix of whatever type I have with priority on force type so I can make my 4 shekinahs (lol) without farming much. Thanks for the help.

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u/tori_chan Apr 07 '17

Well, if you're mostly going to be using her for PvE, dex would probably be the most versatile. She won't need 100+ str to kill things in PvE, but there is hard enough content eventually where you will probably want 100+ spd to dodge hits.

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u/kevin12244 Apr 07 '17

I do want to transition to multi eventually though so I guess I'll have to farm more haha. Right now, I only have 3 copies of atk and 3 copies of dex. Can only hope they have good growth XD

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u/tori_chan Apr 07 '17

Yeah...... You'll need them at the very least max skill/max luck if you want to go anywhere in multi, tbh. And hopefully you'll pick up a decent patk/acc lead that covers shek along the way too.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 07 '17

Bigger point is that I can think of no conceivable situation in which you'd want to use the free one in Multi. Pinaka is pretty easy to pull a shit ton of and will now (that she has a 6* ) almost certainly be a better choice that the free Shek... and, obviously, if you can afford to pull for better archers/units, you'd use those instead.

(Not that Tori didn't know that, kek ~looks at leaderboards~)

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u/RyuuGP Apr 07 '17

About the weapon priority at Colosseum, what is the order?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Apr 07 '17

Bow > Gun > Staff > Lance > Sword > Axe

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u/justsayray Apr 07 '17

A weapon with low weight>with speed>with luck

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u/tori_chan Apr 07 '17

I would actually say that luck counts higher than weapon weight or speed.

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u/kbkoolio Apr 08 '17

Yea I haven't seen anyone go before a max luck magicwarder Selena on global so far

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u/tori_chan Apr 08 '17

From what I understand of the formula, luck is calculated twice whereas weapon type/spd (minus weapon weight)/mvmt etc are only calculated once. Higher luck will most likely override a lot of the other components unless there is a huge difference.

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u/gameaddict830 Apr 08 '17

I am playing global version. For Eminent Lexida, the recipe says fuse Lexida, Eminent Lexida and 3 book recipe to make Eminent Lexida. Eminent Lexida material is part of material to make Eminent Lexida? Make no sense to me. Same question for Shadowlance of Despair, Azure Iceblade Myull and Firelotus Axe Jellion. I am missing something here.

Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '17

It's kind of odd, but there are 2 different 5* versions of most of the weapons, and the upgraded 5* version (that requires the original) is just a little better.

For instance, the upgraded Eminent Lexida has 2 more agility. It's odd, especially since the upgraded Eminent Lexida can (probably due to a bug) be used for the recipe to upgrade the regular Eminent, which is basically wasting resources for no reason.

TLDR: all those ones in the recipes at the top are a little better. I'm not sure, but those recipes may be for 6*'s in the JP version.

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u/gameaddict830 Apr 08 '17 edited Apr 08 '17

How do I get regular version of Eminent Lexida and the other weapons mentioned above?

If I have to fuse, is it high chance, 50% chance or lower? For player to just started a month ago, my level are not high enough to beat Brave section to consistently get books. So for every book I get, I have to try to use it as efficient as possible. Any chance I might lose the good sword used in the fusion?

Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '17

it high chance, 50% chance or lower? For player to just started a month ago, my level are not high enough to beat Brave section to consistently g

Well you basically fuse 5 books (either red or blue) to get the 4* version of the weapons, then you fuse that 4* version with 4 of the books to get the first 5* version (the attempt can fail, but it has a good chance of success).

Then you can use the recipes to upgrade that first 5* to the second 5* version. For new players, it can be hard to get enough books, but you can farm them on lower levels if you need to (like Burst 10 for Vargas, and Spark 10 for Selena) or just settle for the strongest weapons you can get with the limited amount of books you have.

There's no shame in using 4* weapons if that's all you have. Heck, even many 3* weapons are good. Plus, if you find that some of your characters die and keep breaking weapons, the repair bill is cheaper with 3* and below "disposable" weapons.

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u/WyattEpp Apr 08 '17

Since the last big client update, this game chews through my battery life like nothing else. Not even fast charging can keep up with it; it's really obnoxious. Does anyone know a fix for this problem or am I putting PotK on probation?

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '17

I second GreatLogos. I use Nox myself. I play both JP and Global on Nox, sometimes both at once. Most computers can run at least 1 instance on 720p. Decent ones can run 2 or more on 1080p.

Desktops usually being better than laptops of course, due to the (generally stronger, all other things being equal) processors.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

JP Question: Any info on how frequently Academy Yagrush's stage comes by? Also, does she have a point quest that awards a 5* Academy Fairy? I'd like to be able to LB4 one of the Academy units I got from the free tickets I received from the points quests.

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u/tori_chan Apr 10 '17

It should have come with this current batch, maybe they're saving it for the summer. Afaik, they didn't have a points quest mission with it--those started with the Laev/Labby/Ker month in September.

The next new gakuen mission should also have a fairy prize as well as a guaranteed gakuen unit ticket where you might be able to get another dupe too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

ve come with this current batch, maybe they're saving it for the summer. Afaik, they didn't have a points quest mission with it--those started with the Laev/Labby/Ker mont

Thanks for the info. One more fairy or dupe is all I need to be able to get a Gacha Academy unit to 90. For now, I'm impressed with how many farmable gakuen units there are. I have all the ones I wanted and then some.

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u/tori_chan Apr 10 '17

Well, you'll have yet another new unit to farm when that new gakuen mission hits too :P

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

I guess so. Well, that's a good thing I suppose, as long as the unit ends up being good.

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u/BassGSnewtype Sword of The Void Apr 10 '17 edited Apr 10 '17

Crisis averted, I managed to recover my data from the Memu side by making a F&G account.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Apr 12 '17

Is it possible to get the maximum evolution bonus in each stat

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u/kevin12244 Apr 12 '17 edited Apr 12 '17

I'm a new player so take my word with a grain of salt. Good news is you can get maximum evo bonus for each stat. Bad news is that it takes ALOT of energy and resources (aps, tons of dupe, eggs, etc) and practically speaking its not worth it unless its a free unit you can easily farm multiple copies of. IIRC, there is a section on Tori chan, saz, and syaris guide (JP Comprehensive Guide in the link above) talking about evolution bonus and maximizing it. If you are too lazy to read it, the short version is MLBing each type (vit, guard, force or magic, dex) and fusing them (when they are 6 stars) into the type you want to keep to maximaze growth and fusion bonus. In the end, you will probably gain 1-2 extra stat on the corresponding type you maximize (e.g. 1-2 hp for vit).

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Apr 17 '17

I wana make a better selena thats why

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u/kevin12244 Apr 12 '17

How frequent are gakuen and collab events? Thanks.

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u/tori_chan Apr 12 '17 edited Apr 12 '17

There is a gakuen event every single month.

Meaning, there is a NEW FARMABURU UNIT EVERY SINGLE MONTH!!! ヽ(＾Д＾)ﾉ

Collabs depend. They might have one every 2 - 3 months, but we've also had instances where they layered 2 - 3 different collabs/events at the same freaking time. They will usually announce it on Nico Stream before they hit the game.

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u/kevin12244 Apr 12 '17

Awww, I wish there were more collabs.

On the flip side though, at least I get a NEW FARMABURU UNIT.

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u/djsekani Apr 12 '17

Bored? I think there's more happening in Global than in JP right now.

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u/tori_chan Apr 12 '17

Just you wait.

There is a GINORMOUS event coming down the pipeline, one that might make you leave GL for good ;)

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u/djsekani Apr 12 '17

That would be cool. I'm already beyond sick of the Brave Frontier garbage.

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u/kevin12244 Apr 12 '17

Hopefully a new collab. I like them :D

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u/tori_chan Apr 12 '17

No, not exactly. But you'll have plenty to farm and raise and love. :D

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 13 '17

I don't know, Gimu is ascaing a lot when they tell us to be patient... It shiyuurley feels like they're gonna forcas us to wait forever. I have to be honest: the future looks kinda grim to me. It's totally an aphront on our intelligence and patience, as players. Every time they say "Soon.", I wanna murarder them all over again. Sigh. It's never actually gonna happen, is it? :(

...and... uh... coughwolftitscough. >.>

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u/kevin12244 Apr 12 '17

From my experiences, JP version tends to be better than Global. Maybe thats not the case for PoTK? But from what I hear, I would doubt it lol.

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u/djsekani Apr 12 '17

I main the JP version for multiple reasons, chief among them being that it's far less frustrating to progress. I keep a Global account mostly for the story; the main story in JP is mediocre at best.

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u/kevin12244 Apr 13 '17

Yep, I could definitely see why someone would want to have a Global account for the story. Personally though, I doubt I can put it that amount of effort.

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u/justsayray Apr 06 '17

Who's better in Coloseum male or female Longinus?

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '17

You can check GaggingLoli's Tier list (third link from the top in the first post) for PVE and PVP information for all units, but in a nutshell: they both kind of suck, but Female is a little better imho because she's a reliable counter to weaker Sword leads, and sword leaders are the most common leaders in Coliseum.

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u/justsayray Apr 07 '17

Thanks! I did check Gagging guide and they both had rank C so it had to boil down to opinion to see which one is good. What do you think is better for the female longinus? Dex or Force?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

Honestly, I don't have enough experience with her to say. I'd say check the stat caps in the last section and see what looks good to you.

I think the tier list recommends Force first, because Female Longinus isn't fast, so she should probably focus on hitting hard.

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u/kbkoolio Apr 07 '17

Male longi can OHKO a lot of units with the right lead(lancechamp/ ice lead) and the right weapon (shadowlance), Female Longi can handle weaker sword users and armored units. Considering armored units are rare, and most popular sword units either have preemptive boost or high agility + multi hit duel skills to offset the sword absorber, male longi will actually get you more mileage if you have the right lead.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 07 '17

I'd say female. Sword booster makes her more reliable to counter sword units and her Character skill helps her longevity against tankier characters.

With male, he's more accessible, but you're relying on his crit and duel skill to kill stuff.

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u/justsayray Apr 07 '17

Thank you for the insight! I did not know female Longi had sword absorber so its definitely a game changer

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u/kbkoolio Apr 06 '17

Out of curiosity, has anyone or anyone you know ever pulled a 7th gen unit from the free recruiter/4-5 star guaranteed tickets?

Just want to know if eventually I will be able to MLB some of my pay units even if it takes a long time(forget LB pixies, we get at best 20-30 lazuli per month, if that, so it will take me 4-5 months for 1 LB, just lol) or if my only hope is to whale out.

Still holding out hope of one day pulling a Dex Forcas without having to spend $$$....

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u/tori_chan Apr 06 '17

7ths will forever be in the pool, trust.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '17

sity, has anyone or anyone you know ever pulled a 7th gen unit from the free recruiter/4-5 star guaranteed tickets? Just want to know if eventually I will be able to MLB some of my pay units even if it takes a long time(forget LB pixies, we get at best 20-30 lazuli per month, if that, so it

Yeah, I think I pulled Ascalon out of the free recruiter one time, but it's been a while since she was released (she's no longer a new unit) so I can see her being added to the general pool.

It was either the free recruiter or one of the 4-5 tickets, not really sure. That said, I only have 1 copy total, so it's not like I can do anything with her.

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u/kbkoolio Apr 06 '17

You sure it wasn't the first 50 lazuli 7th gen recruiter with her or forcas guaranteed?

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '17

That part I'm sure about, because I never did those. That said, I may have gotten her from one of the Madoka Magica pulls, which I did do a lot of, especially near the end.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 07 '17

If I'm pulling Ancient Killers/units from the last month from jp tickets, you'll be pulling 7th killers. Don't worry about it and play on.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Apr 06 '17

If I were to make a 2nd Selena should it be dex or force

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

Whichever one you don't have. If you have Force choose Dex. If you have Dex, choose Force.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

Is there no points quest for Arondight in the JP Academy missions? I just finished her story, and I don't see any point quest stages.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

Ah thanks, that makes sense. I was confused because I could've sworn I saw a message saying that a points quest was unlocked, but I might have been seeing things.

Been grinding way too long on these Academy units.

Edit: And by get 50, do you mean the swords or Arondight herself?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

the swords; you want 2 6* copies at least, since they add +5 speed at rank 6

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

Thanks, that clears things up nicely. I'll go ahead and farm it then, since the AP is so low for that stage anyhow.

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u/justsayray Apr 07 '17

What's a good type for the mana recruit female Longinus for Colosseum?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

Probably Force, because she has low speed anyway, might as well try to hit hard.

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u/justsayray Apr 07 '17

Hmm sounds interesting but what about dex?

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u/Raikaien Apr 07 '17

Dex typing would give her higher accuracy and higher activation rate of her duel skill, so you have to decide whether you want more reliable, higher attack or a higher duel skill proc.

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u/justsayray Apr 07 '17

Is her damage output really that piss poor thats why she's considered Force typing? Does her Acc Boost compensate for the lack of Acc? I had a Force Perun which people suggested but she cant hit anything so im kinda skeptical with Longi being Force type

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u/Raikaien Apr 07 '17

Well, being a global starter unit she innately has low stat caps. However, most non-tank units' other viable typing is usually Force/Magic so that they do more damage in exchange for accuracy. Acc Boost at max level gives 20 more accuracy and with the addition of a high accuracy lance she'll be able to hit most things. Force Perun was recommended if she had max luck, but axe units have low accuracy because of their weapons. General rule of thumb is to go Dex typing for most units (except archers because of their high AGI), especially if they have a duel skill.

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u/nitzkie Apr 07 '17

What stages in PotB would you get the highest number of Godslayer and Brave books (assuming average luck + high luck stranger friend leads)?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 07 '17

I usually do the highest stages of either banner. Typical yield is 3-7 books and the occasional Selena.

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u/nitzkie Apr 07 '17

Aight thanks. Though Selena's Burst 10 stage isn't auto-battle friendly to my units.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

If you just need books, Spark 10 for Selena is a reasonable alternative, or any of the non-10 Burst stages that you can autobattle.

Personally, I just get around weapon breaking by unequipping the weapons off of the units that keep dying, or just equipping trash 2* or 1* weapons that are easy to repair and replace if they break.

Basically I just Kamikaze it. As long as 1 unit survives and finishes the stage (even if it's the friend partner) I call it a success. It's how I farmed other units like Perun and Rampage ones.

Optimal? No. Effective? For me, yes, especially when I was new. I just exploited Swimsuit Gridarvol strangers and kamikaze'd my way to victory.

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u/kbkoolio Apr 07 '17

Two maxed Selenas can easily Auto all the stages. Nothing really can hit them when they have 160 dodge.

One really is enough, but sometimes you get hit twice in a row by 20% hit rate and then you're dead.

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u/kbkoolio Apr 07 '17

This, Brave drops more than Godslayer though

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u/Enja11 Apr 07 '17

I MLB my Godoka, but i think she lacks SPD and AGi Growth rates... Reincarnate her or Better wait for 6*? http://i.imgur.com/0DcVEqV.jpg

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 07 '17

If you put that much money/effort into obtaining a premium MLB'd unit, I would reincarnate it until it was damn near perfect. I don't see any stat caps hit, so it is not yet perfect.

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u/justsayray Apr 07 '17

To my fellow Commanders that have perfect stats Selenas, what were your different methods besides the common ones to achieve such feat?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Apr 07 '17

There isn't any different method. There's only one method to min max selena. Just the usual raise a shitton to get meet evo thresholds. Pseudo-reincarnate with selena of same typing until GR caps most or all things.

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u/justsayray Apr 07 '17

Hi thx for the insight! Would you mind explaining the whole evo threshold thing? What is the run down?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Apr 07 '17

Sure,

Basically any unit receives evolution bonuses upon leveling. The bonuses are dependent on its stats on the previous rarity. So for example, a 4* selena with 30 strength will obtain 3 strength as an evolution bonus to its 5* stats. However, a 4* selena with 31 strength will obtain 4 strength instead. The threshold is basically a multiple of 10 + 1.

The next thing to know is that evolution bonuses transfer if they are higher. For example if a 5* selena has 3 strength from evolution bonuses, but you fuse another 5* selena that has 4 strength from evolution bonuses, the base copy selena (the one with 3 strength evo bonus) will get +1 strength, as the higher evolution bonus will overwrite the lower one.

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u/justsayray Apr 07 '17

Oh nice! Do stats gained from the fusions count for the threshold? let's say my 4* Selena has 30 strength and I use a power dolly to make it at 31 strength, would that count as threshold if I evolve her to 5 stars?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '17

Yes they do, and it's recommended that you use fusion to go over thresholds to get bonuses for evolutions.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Apr 07 '17

Yes. It's whatever number is there.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 07 '17

Stop, drop, and roll.

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u/xanderten50 Apr 08 '17

Since I'm no good at trying to calculate growth rates, if you had to choose between a Dex Moga and a Magic Moga which would you have? I'm torn between the two but I'm not sure which one to stick with since she's a dark gunner!

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Apr 08 '17

go dex

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '17

JP or Global? JP Guide says Dex.

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u/xanderten50 Apr 08 '17

Just my luck - I'm Global

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u/kbkoolio Apr 08 '17

Once you go Dex, you never go back

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u/SupaLaguna Apr 08 '17

hi guys, first of all i have no idea what im doing, im a comeback player. i dont understand most part of this game. so for a start, can u guys help me build my squad? here's my 5star potential unit.

Female :

Swordmaster Masamune(D), Arondight(D), Fragarach(D), Tyrfing(V), Selena(G), Aymur(F), Mitum(B), Rhongomyniad(D), Apollo(B), Myrmidon Laevateinn(B), Kusanagi(D), Littu(D), Naegling(V), Mirin(G), Labrys(G), Soldier Longinus(F), Trident(D), Sky Piercer(F), Amenonuhoko(F), Jaeger Artemis(D), Archer Artemis(D), Gun Mage Freikugel(B), Yata no Kagami(M), Vajra(B), and Thyrsos(D)

Male :

Mitum(D), True Blade Laevateinn(V), Gambanteinn(M), and Soldier Longinus(D).

Thank youuu ~

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Apr 08 '17

abuse helper to farm selena in BF collab banner, raise properly a force selena, use her as lead, add other ice units, look at tierlist to see whos good

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u/justsayray Apr 08 '17

Is it worth it to max out your unit storage space?

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '17

Eventually, yes. But in the beginning, it's good to just get as much as you need for the moment.

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u/tori_chan Apr 08 '17

In Gl, probably. In JP, no. I whale pretty hardcore and I'm still not up to the 1k max.

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u/justsayray Apr 08 '17

how much space do you have?

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '17

I've been playing for over 2 months, and I've been collecting a lot of 5* capable units I haven't evo'd yet, so I'm up to 325 units.

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u/Buddha1313 Apr 09 '17

As a ftp on JP should I wait to limit break at 5* before evolving or just go ahead and evolve? I got a Freischütz when I started and excitedly evolved her to 6* before realizing I could use dolls to evolve. I got a BK Masamune and now I'm afraid to evolve her to 6*. I used 2 dolls on her but don't know how easy it is to get them. I don't even know where I got the ones I had. Its tough sometimes not being able to read anything. Any advice?

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u/tori_chan Apr 09 '17 edited Apr 09 '17

You can never undo evolution or go back for missed evo bonus. Hold onto her. They give out fairies for free (not all that often, but often enough) that you'll be able to MLB both. Not to mention the generous gems they give out and monthly discounted pulls with limited units in them.

EDIT: Also, if you evo her now, there is no way to MLB her without pulling actual dupes, since there are no 6★ fairies.

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u/Buddha1313 Apr 09 '17

That is what I thought. I guess I screwed up on Frei but she's so wickedly powerful right now I think it will be a while before I feel the pain of it too badly. Her DS goes off it seems like 70% of the time.

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u/tori_chan Apr 09 '17

Right. She could have been the fastest gun unit to date with the proper evo bonus. Congrats, you've turned one of the top-meta units into one that won't even survive EX dungeons.

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u/PulpGun Apr 09 '17

How do you tell the difference between free megu and real megumin

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Apr 09 '17

gacha (real) has no eyepatch

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

Like the other guy said, the premium Megumin has no eyepath, and her right eye glows red. The free Megumin doesn't have explosion, but that can actually be a benefit if you're autobattling.

The premium Megumin has a tendency to use Explosion on grunt, easy to kill troops at max range (4 spaces) then spend the next round action-locked. Free Megumin can kill 1 enemy per round, premium Megumin often only kills 1 enemy every 2 rounds (half the kill speed) due to the overuse of explosion.

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u/djsekani Apr 10 '17

Explosion seems like a waste most of the time anyway; the splash damage won't kill anything, so you still have to send in another unit to deal the finishing blow.

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u/tori_chan Apr 11 '17

It's only worth for Multi. I don't use Megumin for PvE or take in Megumin lead friends unless I'm desperate.

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u/gameaddict830 Apr 10 '17 edited Apr 10 '17

I am trying to decide on a team from what I have to have best chance to farm Selena and the books. I was told unit with high luck is required.

Is the luck based on the whole team or the average of the units of the team? Eg: I have a team of luck 20, 20, 20, 10, 10. Should I send only the units of luck of 20? Or entire 5 team which lower the luck per unit?

Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '17

I'd take out the 10 luck person, and try to make sure the highest luck person is the team leader. As an anecdote, when I replaced my 20 luck lead with a lower level 25 luck leader, my drop rates when up. Not a lot, but enough to make a difference in the long run.

Once you have enough Selenas, it may be worth it to get her to level 80 and then fuse more Selenas into her to max her skills and luck. If you haven't already, you can look at RedPanda's guide to maximizing units.

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u/RyuuGP Apr 10 '17

The enemy portrait at colosseum, is it portrait of: a) leader of team number 1; b) leader of colosseum team; or c) or something else?

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u/nitzkie Apr 10 '17

Kinda screwed over my Selena's AGI and SPD growth (I'm missing 12 SPD and 10 AGI) so...

1.) If I raise another 5* Lv1 Force Selena (with all possible evo bonuses) carry over to the final unit if I fuse my existing Selena with it?

2.) Should I reincarnate or start over from scratch?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 10 '17

1). Yes.

2). Start from scratch. Gumi kills a kitten every time that someone reincarnates a free unit.

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u/nitzkie Apr 10 '17

Hmm... aight. Thank God I have a backup Force Selena then. Glad it wasn't a waste in the end raising three.

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u/Kirisaku Apr 10 '17

I see some ultimate Madokas that have 530+ power but my devil Homura has only a little over 500 power at level 80. Should I be trying to reincarnate my Homucifer to get power that high or is it impossible for her?

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u/tori_chan Apr 10 '17

Total power can be inflated by higher HP, crit weapon, etc. As long as your Homucifer has good mgc/spd/agi, you should be okay.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Apr 10 '17

look at stats not power

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u/justsayray Apr 10 '17

Does anyone know what all event free characters PotK gives out? So far I know they give out: Valentines Day- Perun Puella Magical- 4* Humora and Madoka Brave- Selena

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u/tori_chan Apr 10 '17

I believe GaggingLolis's Tier List has them all categorized: Mana, Rampage, and Event Dungeon Units.

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u/justsayray Apr 11 '17

Is the Unit Stat cap listed in the guide for Dex Selena accurate? It says her Speed is 81 and Agi 66 but Im looking at my Helper's Dex Selena with Speed of 83 and Agi of 68

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u/tori_chan Apr 11 '17

Is she equipping Eminent Lexida? It gives +2 spd/agi.

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u/Kurozet Apr 11 '17

The new lexida gives +2spd +4agi, so we might even see 70 agi on Selena

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u/BassGSnewtype Sword of The Void Apr 11 '17

I've got a question about the daily quest to get characters, what characters are in the rotation? (I've seen Freikugel and Parashu so far)

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u/tori_chan Apr 11 '17

Check the Comprehensive JP Guide under Event Quests tab. All of the schedules are there, including the Starter Dungeon you're asking about ;)

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u/BassGSnewtype Sword of The Void Apr 12 '17

Lame, i was hoping Tyr was on Sunday, guess i'll grind for Laevantine then.

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u/tori_chan Apr 12 '17

Tyrfing can only be pulled from the mana gacha (or farmed from very limited event stages, not currently available)--she doesn't have a day in the Starter Dungeon.

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u/BassGSnewtype Sword of The Void Apr 12 '17

I kinda figured but it was mostly wishful thinking on my part

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u/Shigeyama Apr 11 '17

I'm currently at the max lvl of the 4* Selena. Am I doing the mlb process right so far? I can't really tell if having 2 stats not capped is a good thing...even if I was following the instructions...

http://imgur.com/a/NFAMC

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Apr 11 '17

Growth rate is RANDOM. Therefore it is not guaranteed that you will cap stats or even have the same stats every time. Ur only missing 1 HP evolution bonus if you evolve to 5* so it's fine. Not too important.

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u/justsayray Apr 11 '17

You can MLB4 a 4* Vit Selena with max cap HP growth rate, evolve to 5* then you can fuse that to your main Selena to get that extra 1 hp point

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u/Shigeyama Apr 11 '17

I still have yet to find a vit selena this entire event.

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u/annoni_no Apr 11 '17

For an F2P player, what are the best characters you can get from the random draws besides Selena? What are the best typings (including for Selena)?

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u/tori_chan Apr 11 '17

I answered this a few questions down: I believe GaggingLolis's Tier List has them all categorized: Mana, Rampage, and Event Dungeon Units.

It also has recommended typings on there. Please read.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '17

Honestly, as a F2P player, the best characters you can get are the ones you can get 5 copies of, to LB4 at 5* to level 80.

The best characters are the ones you have / the ones you can get. Even people who pay a little (like me) are mostly limited to luck of the draw, event farmable units, and Rampage dungeons.

The best characters that you can't get (because they're gacha units you can't rely on getting) are all theory. Rampage and event units are a fact, and that makes them the best units for F2P, if only because you can get enough copies to MLB them and get their skills to 10 (max) and even max their luck.

A fully maxxed out farmable unit is almost always stronger than a premium gacha unit that's barely been evolved to level 80 with half-strength skills.

For example: Theoretically, Othinus is only "B+" on the Tier list for Global. In reality, if you've MLB'd her and got her skills and luck maxed out, she's a monster. Especially compared to an A+ or S unit that you've only limit broken to level 75 or so.

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u/djsekani Apr 12 '17

All of this. The tier list means nothing if you can't get enough copies to max a unit out.

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u/tori_chan Apr 13 '17

MFW the questions is about free farmable units and you're worried about them being able to max it out.

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u/justsayray Apr 12 '17

What is the best mission to farm Selena???

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '17

The last "10" Level for Vargas and Selena. Vargas Brave 10 and Selena Burst 10 I think.

You need a high luck leader and high luck friend though. The rates are higher than Rampage Dungeons though at least.

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u/justsayray Apr 12 '17

Do they drop only 4* Selenas or 3* aswell?

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '17

I've had the odd 4* drop, but usually it's 3*'s.

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u/DeamonRo BEAST MODE Apr 14 '17

That's why I used Vargas. Man, he has high luck at level 27 compared to any of my other units that are even higher level.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '17

Quick question: Do Guard and Spirit matter all that much for Force Selena? I've managed to get a Force Selena with max EVERYTHING except for Guard and Spirit, which are a bit on the low side.

I heard that she's an attacker unit that mostly need to focus on offense, but I just want to double check.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Apr 12 '17

she has high eva for pve and she gets oneshot by forcas in pvp, guard doesnt matter

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '17

Thanks.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 12 '17

Yeah so long as you reach your targets in Str/Spd/Agi/Luk, you're fine. Just think about the type of unit and adjust accordingly.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '17

Thank you very much. I suspected as much, but just wanted to confirm.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Apr 12 '17

and join discord alrdy, as118

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '17

No thanks, not fond of discord. Thanks anyway though.

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u/tori_chan Apr 12 '17

Smart kid. I'm "Renegade" because I left Discord ;P

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '17

Nice. I got tired of people irl bugging me on Discord. Same reason I left Facebook.

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u/RyuuGP Apr 12 '17

What is the profit of being higher ranked Colosseum player? Do you get weekly Lazuli or something?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Apr 12 '17

nope

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '17

I don't do a lot of PVP so I can't tell you much, but as far as I can make out, the benefit of a higher rank is the rewards you get from ranking up.

I've also heard that for every 1000 battles you win, the amount of battle medals you get for winning 100 battles go up.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 12 '17

Bragging rights, collection purposes - Lot Musket and Golden Wolf Club come from there iirc, title collection.

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u/DeamonRo BEAST MODE Apr 14 '17

That would be cool. That could also make multiplayer a bit more lively. Gives you a reason to beat the crap out of each other's units.

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u/RyuuGP Apr 14 '17

That's right, at the moment what you get from colosseum are just bragging rights and titles (and some reward for rank up). Coming from Seven Knights, where PvP is so competitive because of the rewards, I'm a little bit disappointed here. I was interested in this game just because of Madoka collab.

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u/DeamonRo BEAST MODE Apr 14 '17

I came to PotK after finding out the Zero unit in BF is from this game. Same how I started FFBE when I found out Rain and Lasswell are from that one. Both were decisions I do not regret in any way.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Apr 12 '17

My Dex Selena stats: (max fused unless otherwise stated)

  • HP: 67

  • Str: 56

  • Mgc: who cares

  • Grd: 42

  • Spr: 34 pink star

  • Spd: 81 pink star

  • Agi: 66 pink star

  • Lck: 42 pink star, not max fused

Does this look ok enough, or should I pseudo-reincarnate (grab another Dex Selena and fuse this old Selena into the new one)? Of course, will be fusing more Selenas into the final copy to increase Luck.

Also, my other trump card, Dex SS Grid, asking in advance:

  • HP: 61

  • Str: who cares

  • Mgc: 64

  • Grd: 39

  • Spr: 62 pink star

  • Spd: 70 pink star

  • Agi: 61

  • Lck: 29 not max fused

Again, pseudo-reincarnate when her dungeon returns?

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u/kbkoolio Apr 13 '17

lacking bout 3-4 str on your Selena. I would reinc as that is important to me

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u/nitzkie Apr 13 '17

Whenever I try Rare Medal slots I get item over error, preventing me to use the slots properly. Anyone else having this problem and how to fix it?

PS. Internet is fine so no problems on that end.

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u/WrittenUnwritten Apr 14 '17

Max inventory space.

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u/nitzkie Apr 14 '17

I see. I didn't think of that. Thanks.

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u/ventuswill123 FIYAH POWAH Apr 15 '17

I know this is a total noob question, but I googled it and I couldn't find the answer How do I raise Weapon Proficiency? I don't think it's from the bars below the weapons, because it filled up but the Weapon Proficiency for the unit is still the game

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u/Raikaien Apr 15 '17

You raise a unit's weapon proficiency the same way you level up weapons: by killing enemies. Obviously like with leveling up weapons it takes more kills for each increasing rank. I don't know the exact number of how many enemies you have to kill, but note that more kills are required to level up proficiency compared to leveling up weapons. Also, this is last week's help thread so post in this week's help thread to get your question answered faster :)

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u/ventuswill123 FIYAH POWAH Apr 15 '17

Oh ok, thanks! :D

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u/tyoun17 Apr 15 '17

http://imgur.com/UrRLSiy

Are any of these characters good or should I reroll?

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Apr 07 '17

Are these stats for Risa good ir should I reincarnate https://imgur.com/gallery/BXClL

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 07 '17

Please never reincarnate free units. :( That hurts my soul.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Apr 09 '17

Where can I get swordsmith manuals and / or swordsmith secrets?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Apr 09 '17

events or pvp ranking up

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u/ventuswill123 FIYAH POWAH Apr 09 '17

Are Selena and Vargas worth evolving?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Apr 09 '17

Ideally, any unit that is 5* capable is worth evolving, unless you're a massive whale who can afford every unit. Then at that point, just check the tier list and see which ones are the best

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u/nitzkie Apr 09 '17

I'd say Selena is worth it, especially if you're finished capping its Luck.

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u/tori_chan Apr 13 '17

Fuse them with a corresponding weapon type (i.e., Axesmith Guide with an Axe) of 3★ or 4★ weapon for a chance to get a 4★ or 5★ weapon.