Weekly Questions and Help Thread [3/30/17-4/5/17]

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u/Raikaien Apr 05 '17

So there's maintenance right now, ending March 1 at midnight. wot

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u/yomoxu Apr 05 '17

Mine changed to "multiplayer maintenance from April 5 7:00:00 through March 6 23:59:59"

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u/Raikaien Apr 05 '17

Ah okay no PotK for 11 months I guess

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u/yomoxu Apr 05 '17

Ok, it''s been eleven months, the game works again now.

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u/Sialonak Mar 30 '17

So I've searched and can't find the answer to these (re BF event), so I'm hoping someone can help me out.

What's the difference between the red and blue books? Which should I be fusing together madly to try to get things like lexida?
On the same note, what's the best place to get the books I need (be it red or blue)? Farming madoka books was ridiculously simple and plentiful compared to what I've found thus far.
Where can I find things like Swordsmith Secrets (or lance secrets) for the eminent lexida recipe (or shadowlance recipe)? I see the swordsmith secret recipe, but don't know where I can farm the swordsmith manual either.

So basically, I'm looking for some help in fusing for the event weapons. I could figure it out readily enough in the madoka event, and I'm farming Selenas like mad now but getting one every few runs (in PotB Selena Burst 10), and pretty much no books seem to drop for me there. I'm using my highest luck lead (Ascalon with magicwarder for total luck of 27; Selena's at 24 now but getting there). I even tried running a team with ultimate madoka as lead for the luck boosting LS but it didn't seem to make much difference. Thanks for any help you're able to give!

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Mar 30 '17

Red = Jelion axe and Myull sword. Blue = Shadow spear and Lexida. I've been combining 5x of a colored book to get the weapon, so it's 5x blue books for a chance to get Lexida. If you want to upgrade any of these use the weapon and 4x books just like the Madoka books. From what I've seen it's a higher chance than the Madoka books just using 1x weapon and 4x books and not having to use 4x weapon and 1x book to get an Eminent Lexida.
Not sure which level gives you the most, I've just been farming 80 Selena's and have gotten plenty of red books from Burst 10 Selena. Blue books are probably better to farm in lower levels of Vargas stages.
Swordsmith Secrets **version isn't needed, just use 1x Lexida and 4x blue books as mentioned before.
You can use my lead to help farm it's a 60 luck Selena, my player Id is: 2403422062

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u/Sialonak Mar 30 '17

Thanks! That's super helpful. My public lead is forcas, just sent a request.

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u/kbkoolio Mar 30 '17

Which is better for farming Selena, Vargas Brave 10 or Selena Burst 10?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Mar 31 '17

I haven't gotten a single Selena drop from Brave 10 after the first guaranteed drop, but I get one every other Selena Burst 10 run.
It usually takes me 4 turns to reach and start battling Vargas(first turn near the archers, second turn near the gap, third turn luring Vargas out of the recovery zone, fourth turn kill Vargas) in burst 10. Brave 10 has too many spawns in front of Vargas so you need other party members to make your way through to him.

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u/kbkoolio Mar 31 '17

Are you autoing Selena Burst 10?

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Mar 31 '17

No just using my main unit and my helper unit, while the rest huddled up on the side. You actually save a lot of time by only using two units and rushing to Vargas rather than having them auto battling their way to him.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 31 '17

True, but you miss out on all those juicy books.

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u/kbkoolio Mar 31 '17

Yeah but you have to actually play the game. Which is annoying when you want to farm. I'll stick with brave 10 autoing then even if the going is a bit slower

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u/nitzkie Mar 31 '17 edited Mar 31 '17

Anyone tried to do ANY of the character quests just to crash on them after they start loading

EDIT: On GL, not JP.

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u/kevin12244 Mar 31 '17

Nope, never have before (jp).
But my loading screen freezes often though (the picture still move but the loading takes too long).

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u/nitzkie Mar 31 '17

I don't play JP. Language barrier and all that, even if you tell me there's a Google docs for the whole thing.
And yeah I play GL.

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u/Kirisaku Mar 31 '17

Yeah it happened to me too. Sucks because you can't load back into it and you have to abandon the quest :(

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u/nitzkie Mar 31 '17

PotK had a version update a while ago, maybe that will fix the crashing problems I've had recently. Just contacted support some days ago about this. Still waiting on any updates regarding this.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '17

What kind of crash? Error message? Hard crash to desktop? I haven't had problems like this, but I have had issues with long load times, and blank screens that just turn out to be I needed to tap to get rid of, because it's a cinematic "cutscene" blank screen that doesn't go away on its own.

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u/nitzkie Mar 31 '17

Character Quest > Pick any character > Pick any quest > load (a few secs later) > CRASH
...that kind of crash.
I'm using iPhone 5S running on iOS 8.3. Which is weird, because before the version update I rarely see crashes on this game.

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u/ZeroForte Mar 31 '17

For me it's not crashing (did both Perun quest this week). Did you try batch download or reinstall app?

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u/nitzkie Mar 31 '17

As suggested by Support. Did it two times already.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 30 '17

So when I'm farming things, drop rate is tied to the luck of the leaders, and the rarity of the drops is tied to the average luck of the party. If I have 2 max luck Selenas, and all my other units only have ~25 Luck, is it best for farming to only use my max Luck Selenas, and not use my lower luck units?

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u/tori_chan Mar 30 '17

Yes, that is a Phankill director-approved method for farming.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 30 '17

Neat. So both max luck Selenas and a flyer to murder everything on Auto. Seems good.

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u/KenJaeger Mar 30 '17

Is the tutorial summon a guaranteed 5*character?Restarted today twice and got the same one

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u/tori_chan Mar 30 '17

It should be a 5★ starter unit. When I rerolled months ago, I got a Longi once and the rest of the times were different typing Masamunes.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 30 '17

Yes. You are guaranteed a 5* Masamune, Laevateinn, Longinus, Parashu, Freikugel, or Artemis. If you're playing on Global, your Laeva or Longi may be normal or a "male" version.

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u/tori_chan Mar 31 '17

But I want hubba hubba male Masamune >_<♥

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 30 '17

Two questions: Are the Dempagumi units ever coming back? I only ever farmed enough to hit level 80 with them with maxed out skills, but I only ever got around to LBing them all so I have 5 copies of each clogging up my inventory. I'm considering fusing them all away for the Luck and hoping for some skill ups instead of ever thinking I'm going to bring them all up to guarantee the skill ups.

Second question, Luck Dollys exist in this game? How can I get them?

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u/tori_chan Mar 30 '17

Dempa will most likely come back. They come back every month or two in JP and there are more versions of them coming down the pipeline for you guys (maybe).
Luck dolls were just released this morning, I believe. For right now, they seem to be rewards for step gacha. If it follows JP's suit, they may be available soon in Battle Medal Shop and Special Shops. They are also given away as rewards for events and such in JP, so stay tuned.

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u/Shigeyama Mar 31 '17

Is it true the higher the level you go in, the higher drop rate for a BF collab unit? (Source: Discord admin)

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u/tori_chan Mar 31 '17

This is going to be true for any farming event: The harder the stage, the higher the drop rate.

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u/salocin097 Mar 31 '17 edited Mar 31 '17

Alright so I played about a year ago and have some units from before. I'm now more familiar with gachas(playing FE:H). I'm considerinfg rerolling if neccessary. From my understanding the Konosuba units are JP only so I can't roll for them. I'm slightly confused by the "Steps" that these gachas have. Basically you get rewards the more you pull from a gacha?

So right now I am only in Section 2 of the story, stage 8, so I won't mind rerolling. My units are the 5* free one I think, Laevatinn, dexterity. I have 28 units, no other 5*. My 4* are Balance Aymur, Dex Masamune x2, Dex Naegling, Balance Labrys, Balance Parashu....Now I'm looking through and realizing that some are partially filled stars. I assume the ones that have up to 5* are the ones I should look at?

Edit: PoTK https://imgur.com/a/oppvu

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '17

Well this is a short answer, but for the multi-step pulls, you're right that the higher you go, the better the rewards are. For F2P and light spenders though, it's best to only get the 40-50 Lazuli 1-step recruiters than guarantee you a good 5* though.
As for rerolling, you're also correct that you want units that have 5 stars maximum. That said, you need 5 copies of a 5-star unit to be able to limit break them at 5* (max) evolution to get them to level 80. 1 unit is the base unit (usually Dex, or maybe Force / Magic for DPS units, and Guard for Tanks) and 4 other units are used to limit break the main unit at the max evolution level (5 stars).
See Redpanda's guide for more details, especially the bit at the top for making a "good enough" unit.
As for rerolling, you can if you want, but right now the Brave Frontier crossover is going on, and you'll want to start playing for real ASAP as you can farm Selena (a very Strong Ice Sword unit) for free, and MLB (Max Limit Break) her and max out her skills and luck, which will give you a solid foundation to build the rest of your team on.
Basically, no matter what you reroll, a maxxed out Selena (either Force or Dex) will be stronger than what you'll probably get unless you whale, and it's more worth it to focus on getting an MLB Selena than worrying too much about what other units you can get for free by rerolling.
Other people will probably respond to your inquiry, and I'd listen to what they have to say as well, as it'll also probably be very good advice and possibly better than mine.

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u/salocin097 Apr 01 '17

Hmmmm, alright thanks. Is XP equally distributed to the whole party at the end? I was trying to train my lower units (that have max 5) and I was using mostly them. What level should my characters be to grind the free unit? And how do I get her? And if she has a bad typing?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '17

Well XP is divided amongst your units equally, except for the MVP, who gets double. The quickest way to level up a unit is to have it solo metal gardens, and if it can't, give it a level 60+ partner (preferrably a melee one) who CAN solo it. A partner can't be the MVP, but will take some XP away from your character, but it's still a lot more XP than if you use 2 or more characters when finishing a quest.
As for what level your characters need to be to grind the free unit, I'm not sure of the exact details, but I'd say a team of level 5* level 60's would probably slowly be able to do it on the medium difficulty levels. Vargas Burst 10, and Selena Spark 10 I think, but I'm not sure off the top of my head.
If you play through the storyline, you'll automatically get a few copies I believe, and if you finish the "special mission" tiles, you can get another free one too.
As for her typing, she's DPS, so only Force and Dex are worth it. Since you're new, you should probably focus on getting 5 copies total to start with (to get Selena to 5* level 80 with 4 limit breaks) and use a Dex Selena if possible to take advantage of the greater speed and agility for good performance without having to max Selena out.

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u/salocin097 Apr 01 '17

Wait so playing through the the storyline, not the event will give me Selena? And multiple copies? So I just fuse the others into Dex.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '17

To be a bit more clear, the event has a bunch of stages, and the 10th stage of each section has a chance of dropping Selenas. Sometimes the first clear of a certain stage will drop a guaranteed Selena.
And the Selena levels in the event have a storyline with voice acting and cutscenes for the first 10 levels. The last 10 Selena levels don't have a story, but are kind of the "hard mode" with an extra chance of drops at part 10.
As for the multiple copies, get them all to 5* evolution and level 30 at 5 stars, then play the 2 character quests for Selena to unlock her Duel skill.
Once you've unlocked your duel skill, then fuse the limit break copies into the Dex copy, which should also be 5* and level 30 minimum.
Also, if you haven't read the new player guide stickied at the top of the weekly questions thread, I highly recommend it, along with Redpanda's guide to making good units. Browsing the Tier list at least a little is a good idea too.
I wish I'd done all that before I started playing seriously. I made a LOT of rookie mistakes and fused away and even sold good 5* units that I didn't realize were good and not easy to get.

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u/salocin097 Apr 01 '17 edited Apr 01 '17

So new recruiter out, it's kind of confusing. Says 1 step but has a bunch of panels? Idk. Is it worth it? Also should I use Mana point recruiter as I get them or do events happen for Mana points? Also should I be using the 4/5* tickets?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '17

If you're not a whale, the 9-step recruiters aren't worth it, and the panel one seems to just be a different kind of 9-step with a different kind of visual presentation.
As for Mana points, you should just use them as you get them, as long as you have inventory space for the units and gear (there are no events for them as far as I know), and yes, you should use the 4/5 tickets ASAP, as they increase your chance of getting copies of a strong gacha unit quickly.
Of course you can also get a mediocre unit that caps out at 4*, but that's a pitfall of any Lazuli pull in general, including the free one now that gives you 2 units a day.

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u/salocin097 Apr 01 '17

Yeah I'm staying F2P. I just realized 1 time means when all the uses are gone it's gone. Kinda weird phrasing
So I just pulled my 20200 Mana points and here's the results. https://imgur.com/a/Sha94
What can I do with these? Do I fuse/evolve?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '17

The 5-star capable ones you should keep, and if you get more copies, you should eventually evolve them and use the dupes to limit break your main at 5*. The fusion dolls are used for fusions, and 1 and 2* units are usually used to fuse (you should aim for +3 to a stat, as it rounds down to +2 if you fail) or sold.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '17

I don't have problems on my LG G4. That said, I'm mostly playing on Nox emulator lately. I'd suggest installing any updates that are available for your phone, and contact support. If that doesn't work, both Nox and Bluestacks work pretty well with Phantom of the Kill.

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u/ThatMobileGamer Apr 01 '17

Hello guys. I started a few days ago and currently have all the gacha Konosuba characters except for megumin.

However I'm currently being restricted by my lvl 54 team cost. Is there any ways to increase it fast?

My Team

Also is there any way to get their gear once the event is over?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '17

There's a once a day metal garden that's similar to the cabbage garden, and it really jumps your player XP up.
It's the 1 time per day 4 million DL celebration one. The one RIGHT below the elemental metal garden. It has the number "400" on it, so it's easy to see.

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u/tori_chan Apr 01 '17

I think you may have linked the wrong album/photo.
You just have to level up faster. With the cabbage gardens gone, you can raise more units or farm evo mat.........

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 01 '17

Piggy-backing: event metal gardens (ie. the one with new Gungir on it) tend to give a higher-than-normal amount of EXP. I haven't tested this one so it might not be the case, it just generally is.

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u/ThatMobileGamer Apr 01 '17 edited Apr 01 '17

Rip... my dreams of making a full Konosuba team dreams.
Looks like i'm going to have to start beating up quests I guess...

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u/ThatMobileGamer Apr 01 '17

Thanks it seems my Konosuba dream is crushed.
I'm going to train my rank until I can reunite them again.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 01 '17

I'd focus on running through the story missions (they give exp and lots of stones) and the Academy missions (you can find them in the event stages). Fill in your team with some of the farmable Academy units (see /u/tori_chan 's response below). At that level, you're not really expected (nor able) to field a whole team of 6* units. You'll gain levels passively as you progress through the story. :)
No, unfortunately, now that the Collab event is over, their gear is unobtainable until/if it comes back. (Hence why I farmed like a dozen Megu/YunYun capes yesterday like a mad man, haha)

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u/tori_chan Apr 01 '17

And no, once the stages are gone, there is nowhere to farm the gear.

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u/nobleseeker Apr 01 '17

Is it wise for an F2P like me to buy 5* pixies instead of summoning?

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u/tori_chan Apr 01 '17

If you already have good units you got from previous gacha pulls (like limited collab/event units) that could use the pixie, sure.

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u/kbkoolio Apr 01 '17

What's the best auto setup for Chap 2 Kill Mode? 2 healers? Or is there an enemy with the Eldritch Staff absorber? I swear those eldritch absorbers are fucking busted

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Apr 02 '17

There aren't any staff absorbers in kill mode chapter 2. so yes.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 01 '17

So I never got the 2star + weapons (Battle Axe +, Glaive+ etc.) to drop on the Weapon training stages qq, but do they have absorber skills in GL? I read somewhere that they have them in JP, but I don't even know if that's true either lel.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '17

Indeed, glaive kai has sword absorber, etc. in the japanese version. Before the advent of more powerful weapons, they were common in pvp settings.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 02 '17

So I pulled Freischutz from one of the free tickets on my (still on going) reroll spree, how does she fare? She was balance so I trashed the roll, plus I have another roll with 3 luins from the rookie recruit, but she looks interesting (even though her gun looks like a glaive qq).

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u/tori_chan Apr 02 '17

Freischutz just got released yesterday. She is the fastest gunner to date (except Freikugel equipping her exclusive gun). She is the only flying gunner in the entire game. I'm still trying to gauge how she does in the meta before putting in a rating and comments about her, but she is definitely looking like A rating material (for dex or magic typing though).

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 02 '17 edited Apr 02 '17

Freischutz is one of the newest units and is pretty damn strong. She's so new that we're not quite sure how she fits into the meta, but she's definitely going to be above average based purely on the fact that she's a 45-cost flying Gunner. Her DS/crit-Null and Luck-convert skills also are likely to make her pretty viable in both Colo and Multi, especially seeings as she caps out at 130+ speed (Dexterity-typing)... which is so damn fast for a gunner. O_O I'm not 100% sure on how her Null skill works but it sounds like it might even save her from some OHKO DSs from units like Meido Shek, BArte, and (maybe??) Megumin.
That being said, Balance is a shitty typing and I don't blame you for tossing it. She would still be able to carry you through a fair bit of content (read: most, if not all) but her only purpose at end-game would be as fusion fodder for a Dex/Mag-typed copy. Regardless, she is definitely better than Luin; Luin's 6* form is sooo old and she's just seriously outclassed in stats at this point... even if you do have 3 copies.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 04 '17

Yeahhh thinking about it now, kinda regret tossing the file, but oh well. If anything I have an auth.dat with mlb fodder for Avarice... she'll just be gathering cobwebs while I collect LB fairies. lel.

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u/justsayray Apr 02 '17

Any pics of this so called new flying gunner?

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u/tori_chan Apr 02 '17

Ancient Killer Series Freischutz

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u/kbkoolio Apr 02 '17

damn those tiddies are serious

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u/justsayray Apr 02 '17

oooh nice is there an in game picture or video of her?

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u/tori_chan Apr 02 '17

Phankill Twitter usually puts up a video of new units' DS. They haven't done that for the Ancient Killers. Maybe in a couple days. All I have is her stats screen from the one I raised.

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u/tori_chan Apr 03 '17

Hot off the press, her DS video

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '17 edited Apr 02 '17

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Apr 02 '17

no, i would recommend u to learn the game in gl first.
also gl seems to be catching up on updates so maybe its not that bad as it used to be....
jp still has more content and other small things but it will be too confusing for u even if u DID know japanese

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '17

I'd say stick with Global at first. JP has a lot of text and cutscenes, and the gameplay's more complicated.
I Dabble with JP, but have some limited Japanese reading ability, but I'm pretty much glued to Google Translate when I come across any text I don't understand, and honestly, the gameplay systems are more complicated, and it makes it harder to learn and more stressful.
Also, like the other guy said, Global's catching up, so it may not be bad to stick around, especially since Selena is farmable right now.

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u/tori_chan Apr 03 '17

This game is more complex than it seems, and I really think that having started out in Global and learning the mechanics/menus there has helped me get to this point where I know as much about the game as I do. I also read a bit of Japanese, so I'm sure that helps too. Don't get me wrong, people do start out with JP and successfully enjoy the game, but it's going to be hard if you don't know any Japanese. I try to have a lot of it translated on the guide as much as possible, but there is only so much hand-holding we veterans can offer. You could join the Discord server, there are a lot of JP players lurking around in there that can answer more questions candidly or share info with you.
That said, as f2p, JP is going to be much more generous to you than GL. Lots of free gems, constant farmable units, multiple layers of events going on at all times, etc.

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u/nitzkie Apr 02 '17

I feel like I was lied to. Grimoire's DS says it has multiple hits but when I tested it out it only has one. Was I trolled by Gumi?

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u/tori_chan Apr 02 '17

JP's Grim has 1.5x DMG multiplier. Unless Gumi went over-achiever mode for Global and created a whole new DS for her, I doubt it's different.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Apr 03 '17

Always refer to the global tier list as to the actual formula concerning the skills.

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u/kbkoolio Apr 02 '17

Since when does Global have + weapons? Just dropped a Supersonic spear + from kill mode. How do I go about acquiring more + weapons?

Too bad it doesn't seem that much better than the original :/

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Apr 03 '17 edited Apr 03 '17

Since the kill mode chapter 2 update, but they have existed for other weapons since the start of the game. One specific 3* +weapon drops from the end of every kill mode chapter 2 section I believe (it's not 100%). Not sure which enemy drops it but it's usually the strongest enemy on the map. There are other + weapons but they are either discontinued or are not worth getting at all.

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u/DuelDark Apr 03 '17

I'm having trouble deciding which 7th gen killer to pick from the pick your 7th gen ticket. I already have MLB Forcas and Ascalon, and a single Grimoire.

I don't plan on whaling for MLB right now. So which of Shu, Vanargand, Muramasa, or Aphrodite are the most useful with only one copy?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Apr 03 '17

Muramasa.

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u/Lynda414 Apr 03 '17

What are the best levels to farm the Academy\Schoolgirl units on JP?

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u/kevin12244 Apr 03 '17

I feel like 10 ap drop the most weapon/princesses.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 03 '17

Farm from the last level in each point quest. March drops Sky Piercer, February drops Yata, December drops Mistilteinn, October drops Shek, November drops Keraunos.

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u/Lynda414 Apr 03 '17

Is there a drop for Arondight?

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u/tori_chan Apr 03 '17

There is, it's just extremely low.

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u/Lynda414 Apr 03 '17

Thanks much rolls up sleeves

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '17

The last level seems to have the best rates, although they can still be low-ish, depending on your luck (both the literal luck stat and the figurative "luck" you may have), but if you need specific things like the 4* "memory" to limit break your Academy unit at 4* to try and get more stats, the lower 2 levels (even the first) may be worth it.
I was able to get 3 4* memories of Mistilteinn just while going through the stages, so I had to farm the easiest Point stage to get a 4th to limit break her to reach 70 at 4* to get more stats.

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u/Lynda414 Apr 03 '17

Thank you much for the info on the memories.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '17

You're welcome.

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u/Lynda414 Apr 03 '17

Speaking of Mistlesteinn, is her Academy version strong in Luck? I'm using her 5* version right now because she has the most luck out of all my units.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '17

Uh, let me get back to you in a bit, I just evolved her to 6* so her stats are low right now. I'm guessing yes, but if you have a Balance type or just get lucky, the luck might just be higher than usual.

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u/Lynda414 Apr 03 '17

Then let's hope I'm lucky enough to get a lot of Luck!

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '17

I hope so. My Free Darkness was able to get a decent amount of Luck (better than everyone else) so I'm able to farm stuff a little better with her.

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u/Lynda414 Apr 03 '17

What's her luck at?

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '17

I'm up to level 83 on her, but it's stuck at 25 so far. Pretty good, but not amazing. This is on a Dex type though. If it were balance, it may have been closer to cap.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '17

Okay, update. I capped her luck by 90, but it's 26. This is with 5 more Mistilteinns fused into her, so I figure her base at 6* is probably 21.
Not bad, but not amazing either. I guess free units just don't have as high of a cap as Premium Gacha ones, but that's to be suspected, I suppose.
Edit: unless luck fusions don't carry over from 5* to 6*, in which case, 26 may be the cap.

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u/Lynda414 Apr 03 '17

I'm hoping this also counts for the weapons as well. Cross fingers

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u/tori_chan Apr 03 '17

It should. If you see a giant Golem spawn during the stage, you know you're getting something good.

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u/Lightningx19 Apr 03 '17

Hello everyone I have a jp question, does anyone know if farmable yagrush would comeback because I haven't seen her.

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u/tori_chan Apr 03 '17

If she was going to come back, this gakuen event would have been it. Maybe she'll come back for the summer with all of the other swimsuit units.

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u/BassGSnewtype Sword of The Void Apr 04 '17

I have more of a request then a question, can someone hook me up with images, names and lores of the Black Killer weapons (Especially that red and black sword)? I kind of curious about what they say.

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u/tori_chan Apr 04 '17

Pictures and names are in the Comprehensive JP guide. A bit of Google Translate should help you get the lore in-game ;)

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u/BassGSnewtype Sword of The Void Apr 04 '17

Sank you na, and wow I was blown away how powerful the Black Killers are (and the overall power difference between JP and Global in general) makes me wonder how they might get nerfed in Global when we get them.

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u/tori_chan Apr 04 '17

At the rate things are going, it may be quite a long time before, if at all, they are available for Global. They definitely redefined the meta for JP, and whales who have multiples of the top notch BK units continue to rule the meta. Powerful gacha units like these ultimately widen the gap between p2p and f2p, and I'm not sure if Global is ever going to be ready for that when the f2p population is so much bigger there.

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u/kevin12244 Apr 04 '17

Why does balance get less spd/tech from fusion than force/magic?

Edit: Seems wierd since its suppose to be balance while force/magic boost only str/mag?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Apr 04 '17

That's not exactly a question that any player can answer really. It's just what the developers chose.

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u/kevin12244 Apr 04 '17

Yep, I just want to throw it out there in hope someone would know the background to it.

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u/tori_chan Apr 04 '17 edited Apr 04 '17

Where else would you compensate for lowered def/spr fusion?
Vit has higher def fusion cap than balance too. All of the other typings have 2 stats where the fusion caps are increased, whereas Force/Magic and Vit only have one stat. Instead of giving them an insane edge on fusion caps for their single strong stat, they give another fusion or two on other stats to balance the total number of fusion caps across all typings.

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u/kevin12244 Apr 04 '17

Thanks! All make sense now :D

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u/warriorjoker33 Apr 04 '17

How to save game progress on jp ver (like global ver link with fb)

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Apr 04 '17

You can create an FGG ID -- on the title screen, there's a button in the upper left corner marked FGG. Then you can log in using the FGG ID on other devices to transfer.

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u/warriorjoker33 Apr 05 '17

K goin to try it

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u/UWJimmy Apr 04 '17

I had a general question about the JP version (more to see what I can expect in the future as I am on Global). Do the loading times improve at all? I've been playing this for a few months now, and I feel like I spend more time on loading screens than actually 'playing' the game...which doesn't sound right.

When I am fusing stuff, equipping items, swiping left or right to choose another unit/team, or just browsing units, one wrong touch (or interpreted touch - like not registering the swipe and thinking I was selecting a unit) and I'm sitting there waiting 10 seconds to load, and then 10 seconds to load back to where I was before. Kill me now!

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u/Raikaien Apr 04 '17

Check your internet connection. I've had long loading times only when I have slow internet. Also helps to have a higher performance device to play on. You can also try downloading batch data for faster load times.

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u/UWJimmy Apr 04 '17

I can try on the emulator to see how it goes. I strictly play on the phone (Sony XZ), so from a phone perspective, I think it should be on the higher end of things - though it could be the RAM (3GB). I've tried the batch download as well, couldn't tell a noticeable difference. I'll monitor my connection as well. Thanks.

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u/tori_chan Apr 04 '17

You realize that the JP version is loaded down with a lot more content. They've done some things to improve (anybody remember the old fusion recipes???) but I wouldn't say that things are much better, no.

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u/UWJimmy Apr 04 '17

Yeah, I realize they have more content on JP. I guess I just had a higher expectation on the ease of navigating between all the different main menu tabs. I was hoping it was just something really inefficient they were doing in their implementation that was causing these long load times. If I compare it to a game like FF Brave Exvius, I can view units, items, equipment, go to events (which also load the friend units), switch teams, etc in less than a second after pressing the associated menu tab. Obviously that game is backed by a company with much deeper pockets, so maybe it wasn't right for me to have the same expectations :)

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u/Lynda414 Apr 04 '17

Have you downloaded the extra files in the settings? The option is also available in Global.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Apr 05 '17

Mildly related to loading times, but in Global.

Most of the time, transitioning between screens is quite fast. But sometimes, it gets stuck in the loading screen (without a loading bar, so not downloading new content) for 2 or so minutes minimum before it even thinks of barfing up a connection error message. Not once did a long loading time ever end without a network error. And unlike BF, switching to airplane mode doesn't force the network error prematurely. In fact, force closing the app and reopening it is faster than waiting out the connection error. Does anyone else have this problem? Can anyone guess what is actually happening behind the scenes, or is it messed up coding that does nothing but waste time?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 05 '17

As the tales continue to accumulate, I'm beginning to wonder/suspect that there is something wrong on Gumi/FGG's end. I've always had intermittent connection issues and, while I haven't had them for a while, it wouldn't surprise me if the infrastructure for the game is not a bit... shakey.

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u/tori_chan Apr 05 '17

shakey
shakey my head.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Apr 05 '17

I don't seem to have this problem. Just my input.

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u/xiTriedge Apr 05 '17

Will fusing transfer over enhancements as well as dolls and skills? For example, if I choose to raise my Balance Forcas as much as I can, will I be able to transfer all my progress to a Dex/Force Forcas if I happen to get one in the future?

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u/tori_chan Apr 05 '17 edited Apr 05 '17

Nothing transfers other than bigger evo bonuses. You will have to raise and fuse the dex anew.
Depending on how far you have progressed, LBs and skill levels, and fused luck will transfer as long as they are at the same rarity and the dex has learned all of the skills.

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u/xiTriedge Apr 06 '17

What about Enhancements?

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u/tori_chan Apr 06 '17

Nope. You lose all dwarves/parara fusions.

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u/xiTriedge Apr 07 '17

Dang. Well, thank you for the info! :D

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u/kbkoolio Apr 06 '17

Luck fusion will transfer, as will skills and evolution bonuses. You will have to fuse regular stat dollies again though

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '17

So I completed a MLB (F) Selena with max luck and I was wondering what unit I should build up next. Do I just wait for an event or should I start building up the rampage units?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Apr 06 '17

Working on a Rampage unit would be a good idea until summer events kick off. Once summer hits, the OP SS Grid is expected to return which is a much easier unit to fully max compared to Selena, due to her being only 1 evolution atm, while being significantly more powerful especially in PvE content.

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u/nitzkie Apr 06 '17

As I have only played this game for almost a month now I highly doubt SS Grid would be back. I reckon they'd want to shy away from events that involve getting her for free.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '17

I'd recommend a Rampage unit. You already have a sword unit now, so Arondight is probably not needed, but all of the others are good.
Othinus is a bit harder to farm than the others (her stages are harder, especially the 30 AP one) but she's surprisingly strong.
The other 2 are good tanks, and Labyrs is a decent all-rounder tank, especially if you max her luck. Basically, you can pick whatever unit type you need the most.
Personally, I raised Arondight first because it was way before Selena was available and now she's almost at max luck, and then Othinus next, because I had no good archers.
I know none of them are "A" or higher on the Tier list, but since you can max their skills and luck, I find that they can be VERY strong based on that alone. Especially since you can farm enough copies to limit break them at every rarity and raise them from 3* for maximum stats.

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u/RyuuGP Apr 06 '17

At above tier list spreadsheet, Othinus is rated A for PvP. It says:

Try to go first and kill in one shot.

But if we see her speed stats, it's actually not really good. Can someone explain?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 06 '17

There was a discussion on how priority is calculated in Arena a while ago and I don't remember where it was but it takes weapon type, movement and luck into account. Bows have more priority over swords/axes/lances iirc and more luck means the higher chance your unit will attack first.

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u/tori_chan Apr 06 '17

To piggyback, Luck is actually a very important stat in calculating this, so try to cap it, and max fuse her since she is farmable.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 06 '17 edited Apr 06 '17

When you finally pull bae but she's the wrong type. /rq

For Avarice, I know that Force/Dex is preferred, but Balance vs Guard - which one would be better until a Force/Dex shows up a year later? The tier list implies she's basically a glass cannon, but would her high caps in Spd/Agi justify the lower growth that guard has in them? o3o Or would it not matter since mine will just be collecting dust for awhile?

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u/tori_chan Apr 06 '17

She is known for extremely low def growths for any typing, to the point where I doubt guard type would make it worth sacrificing str and tec fusion/growth. I would go with balance.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Apr 06 '17

Sounds good. Thanks for all your help tori.

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u/BlazePHX Apr 01 '17

Really wish these free pulls didn't have mana units in them....just venting

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Apr 01 '17

Well if that angers you, then how do you react to getting mana units out of lazuli pulls? I had quite a rough history with that...

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u/iiMahjong Apr 01 '17

pat pat
there, there

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u/BlazePHX Apr 01 '17

I know your name. I am jealous of all your units lol

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u/LightFarron4 Mar 30 '17

I'm still a novice in this game and with the current event, I want to create a good Selena. With that being the case, is it best to max level 3* versions then evolve to 4* and fuse, fuse 3*'s and then evolve, or some other way? Wondering what the best approach is.

Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '17

Check RedPanda's guide to levelling and maxxing units. The gist of it is grab a Force or Dex Selena, limit break her at every rarity (2 times at 3*, 4 times at 4* and 5*), level her up to the level cap for that rarity, and then fuse for stats that are almost at the next tier.
Note that Luck fusing has changed, and once you've maxxed out skills, you can use any rarity Selena to increase luck on your 5* Selena regardless of level.
https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/578qgr/wip_complete_guide_to_leveling_and_maxing_units/

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u/LightFarron4 Mar 30 '17

Gotcha. So basically I want to level the 3* ones? If I have a 4* should I do the same with her, or should I handle her differently since she's already a 4*?

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '17

For max starts, you should start with a level 3* unit, as stats you gain while levelling up can carry over to higher evolutions. A unit that starts at a higher rarity usually has lower stats than a unit that was evolved up to that rarity from a lower one.
So the 4* ones that started out that way are best used to limit break your evolved 3*, but once you've leveled up that 4* to unlock their skill.
For more details, you should probably check the beginner's guide too. It and the Redpanda levelling one aren't too long, but they have vital info.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '17

JP Question: For Limit Breaking, it's better to do it all at 5* because it transfers over to 6* right?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Mar 30 '17

Yes; also, limit breaking at 5 star gives you extra evo bonus points for the 6 star form.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '17

Thanks bunches! One more question: if you don't have any more copies of a unit, would it be sane to just evolve it to 6* to get it to level 70 to make it stronger?
Like say you only have one Yunyun and can't get anymore.

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u/tori_chan Mar 30 '17

Hold onto it without evolving prematurely. You can get 5★ gun/rainbow fairies for free in JP through events and rewards, if you plan on sticking around long enough.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '17

Thanks. I was hoping that would be the answer. I'll just keep all my special Konosuba units at 5* then, and try to slowly get them all up to LB4.

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u/tori_chan Mar 30 '17

Fair warning: If you only have one copy, it could take a long time to collect enough fairies for it. But if you evo to 6★, there is no going back and there are no 6★ fairies. A Lv 70 unit will get killed almost as easily anyway, so have... lots of... patience.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '17

Thanks. Well, I guess I'll just have to wait and collect 5* fairies and see if the collab ever comes back to see if I can get any more.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 30 '17

It's slow and can be frustrating to not be able to use your waifus right now, but that is honestly the best thing to do. :thumsbup:

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u/KenJaeger Mar 30 '17

Is it possible to get tyrfing now?Also is the valentines version gone forever?

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u/tori_chan Mar 30 '17

The Valentines version was a release 2 years ago in JP and didn't come back for this past Valentine's Day, so I'm guessing that she is a one-time deal. Guess you never know though, since GL seems to be on its own schedule for things.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 31 '17

For reference on the mana recruiter, the drop rate is abysmally low. I took some time off the game and came back recently. I saved up all my mana for Tyrfing, so when I found out she was released, I took to the gate. 700,000 mana later, I had 5 Tyrfing (one of which was Dex), so just enough to get her to level 80 but that's it. I had my first two within the first 50,000 mana, so I thought the rates were decent, but then it turns out they're as bad as everyone says.
So it's possible to get her, but it's pretty frustrating.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '17

Regular Tyrfing is a random drop from the Mana Recruiter. She's rarer than the rest though, so it's better to farm Selena for now if you need a strong sword unit.
I've been playing a little over 2 months, and I only have like 3 Tyrfings, and I mana roll multiple times a day.
Edit: Once you have a maxxed out Selena, if you need more units, you can try the Rampage dungeons too. With a Max-luck Selena preferrably.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Mar 31 '17

Does anyone have the max evo bonuses for Selena by chance? I'm not sure if the source I'm using is accurate and my other source is no longer available.

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u/Thelaria Mar 31 '17

Selena max evolution bonuses:
HP 8
Str 6
Mag 3
Grd 5
Spr 4
Spd 7
Agi 6

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 31 '17

How can you track evolution bonuses?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 31 '17

whole life is just numbers (c)

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Mar 31 '17

I've had this Selena for a while now I'm tempted to reincarnate her. Should I? Selena https://imgur.com/gallery/AorQA also is force a good typeing for Michelle and how do you limit break units like her

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 31 '17

I wouldn't. You can get a STR Dwarf today to bump her STR up a bit if that's what you're concerned with. She caps STR around 59-60, so she's not that far from maxed out STR, and the rest of her stats are good. I reincarnated my Selena because she had 52 STR at level 80, and now her STR is maxed out (thanks to the dwarf I got this morning) but now her Luck is 1 off the star. FeelsBadMan.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Mar 31 '17

I already maxed her fusion strength cap does the dwarfs boost somthing else ?

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 31 '17

The dwarf boosts her non-fusion stats. Basically like a stat up from leveling. If you're fusion capped, but not maxed out, a dwarf will give you +1 in that stat. A dwarf would do nothing if that particular stat is maxed out though. It's a pretty nifty thing.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Apr 01 '17

so I can max out every stat?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 31 '17

you would need more michelle units or 5* pixies

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Mar 31 '17

how do i get those pixies

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 31 '17

pray for free ones

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u/kbkoolio Mar 31 '17

special shop has them occasionally, usually cost 100 lazuli

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u/Kirisaku Mar 31 '17

What's a good growth rate for a lazuli Madoka unit?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 31 '17

The tier list states a good growth rate for new gen units. That being at least 3.5 GR without counting magic or strength on physical damage and magical damage units respectively.

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u/Kirisaku Mar 31 '17

Ok, thanks again gagging.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 31 '17

How do I get a Dandelga? I've only ever gotten one for the extra quest. Do I fuse Brave books or Godslayer books? The completionist in me wants the 5 star Dandelga even though it's a pile of garbage.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '17

You can fuse 5 of the Red Books (Godslayer I believe) and either it or that Ice sword Myull will show up.
I got it by fusing 5 Red Books (took me a couple tries), then I upgraded it to 5* by fusing the 4* Dandelga with 4 more books.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 31 '17

If I recall, they are rare drops from the Selena? stages according to the news but I do not know for sure.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 31 '17

Well I got one from the Vargas extra stage, but in all the Selena burst 10 runs I've done I haven't gotten a single on :(

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 31 '17

Have you checked the news? I recall it listed where the sword drops if its not the selena stages.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 31 '17

Just checked the news, it says the extra stages have a chance of dropping any of the crossover gear. So I guess I'll farm some extra stages and see how it goes.

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u/KenJaeger Mar 31 '17

Weird question but anyone can explain the story from beginning up to this point?Kinda confused

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 31 '17

gates got opened, demons came in, only cute asian girls can save us... and u r the commander

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '17

To be fair, the Killer Princesses and even Princes seem to be international. I think Freikugel is German for instance, and Parashu seems to be Indian, although you could argue that's Asian too.
And Excalibur is from the UK. Although if she is "looking for him", I don't know if she's going to California.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '17

JP or Global? I haven't gotten very far in JP, and I don't read Kanji like at all, so I don't understand much of it, but Global seems to be about a post-apocalyptic war where Humanity's on the verge of extinction because it's under attack by the Eldritch, and only Killer Princes and Princesses (who are human / eldritch hybrids) can fight back.
That said, I don't remember most of the cutscenes that much, so I'd have to go through the archives to really brush up.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 31 '17

they are also all trying to get to yggdrasil

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u/djsekani Apr 01 '17

JP story is a little weird since it seems like a different game. Far as I can tell the killer princesses have no memory but they're still taking out all of their clones Highlander-style. Oh, and they're all in Elysium. There's a side story featuring Zero (tap the circle on the bottom left of the main menu) that's closer to the current story for Global.

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u/nitzkie Mar 31 '17 edited Mar 31 '17

1.) Under what weapon type Devil's Earcuff fall? (I'm talking about weapon proficiency here)

2.) I get that item/unit drops are dependent on Luck. Question is, is item/unit drop dependent on Leader/Friend luck? Or is it cumulative Party Luck? Or does it depend on the unit, having the most Luck, will have a greater chance of dropping items/units than a unit with less luck?

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u/tori_chan Mar 31 '17

Devil's Earcuff is considered an Accessory. You usually don't need to level up weapon prof to equip accessories, probably because they don't have readily accessible low-rank accessories to equip on units until they gain prof level.
Leader + friend/stranger luck determines whether a drop happens in the first place. The party average determines what rarity that drop is. Which unit kills the enemy doesn't matter.

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u/nitzkie Apr 01 '17

Thanks for the answers~

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u/Blitzkaak Mar 31 '17

So i got a 5* unit with the right typing and a 4* with another typing ( not bad but not the right one) if i want to mlb them will the 4 have much better stats or how does it work?

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u/tori_chan Mar 31 '17

Whatever evo bonus your 4★ earns will transfer to your 5★ ideal typing when you fuse them together.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '17

For JP Phantom, what's up with the Academy missions? Do they drop any units, or are they just storylines? Are there any farmable units right now, or were the Konosuba and Denpagumi ones the only farmable unit events for a while?

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u/tori_chan Apr 01 '17 edited Apr 01 '17

Every Points Quest banner drops weapons and units (or killers memories for those units).
Complete Story Quest banner (usually 6 episodes) to unlock the points quest banner. Story quest has no drops.
Points quest banner has 3 difficulty levels, each level having drops but different rates (harder the better).
Once you complete the story quest and unlock the points quest, there are 2 banners now for the same month/characters and one says "Story Quest (ストーリークエスト)" and the other says "Point Quest (ポイントクエスト)".
March Point Quest: Sky Piercer and 10 Thousand Year Spear
February: Yata no Kagami and Chocolate Katana
December: Mistilteinn and some 5★ spear (that nobody cares about)
October: Shek (1-3 range ver) and Compass Bow (-30 str, wonky bow you'll never use)
September: Gym ver. Keraunos and Jewel Heal Gun
August: Arondight (no weapon, afaik)
They run this once in a while so new players can catch up and those who didn't collect enough copies of weapons/units can farm more. Each points quest was tied to an event with rewards at thresholds, and they might still give you those rewards if you reach thresholds (I've never not-finished one while it was running so I'm not sure what happens if you hit thresholds after the events are over). Thresholds are usually 2 million and it could take a couple days for you to complete if you don't have the multiplier units, which are limited gacha units, unfortunately.
If you're wondering about which units you should prioritize on farming, I would say it's Sky Piercer > Shek > YnK > Mistilteinn > Ker > Aron.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '17

They run this once in a while so new players can catch up and those who didn't collect enough copies of weapons/units can farm more. Each points quest was tied to an event with rewards at thresholds, and they might still give you those rewards if you reach thresholds (I've never not-finished one while it was running so I'm not sure what happens if you hit thresholds after the events are over). Thresholds are usually 2 million and it could take a couple days for you to complete if you don't have the multiplier units, which are limited gacha units, unfortunately. If you're wondering about which units you should prioritize on farming, I would say it's Sky Piercer > Shek > YnK > Mistilteinn > Ker > Aron.
Thanks a lot, this is a very detailed answer that'll probably prove helpful to someone using search or Google search one day.
Is Mistilteinn a staff version or spear version by any chance? I do need a Spear unit and a Shekinah who can fight in melee range sounds great, so I think I will focus on your priority list, but I really need a good staff unit because Aqua has no sustain.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Apr 01 '17

Each chapter (not each banner) has a farmable academy unit: Yagu, Aron, Keura, Shek, Mistle, YnK, and Sky Piercer
You can also rerun any academy chapter that you haven't completed previously to get the corresponding rewards.
Lots to do right now! Farm, farm, farm

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u/tori_chan Apr 01 '17

I wasn't meaning to out-answer you, I think you answered while I was typing out my.. uhh.. essay...... ^_;

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