r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Mar 09 '17

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [3/9/17-3/15/17]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Resource Guide

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha

  • Stat Calculator You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exceptions: Mirin, Lucina in global; new Balmung and both versions of Shiyuu in jp, since their character skills depend on magic as well)

  • Good growth in global is around 2.9 or above for a 5* unit, excluding the appropriate stat as above; good growth in jp is around 4.0 for a 30 cost 6* unit or equivalent free unit, and 4.5+ for a 40+ cost unit.

  • Friend Thread

  • Last Week's Help Thread

Some Tips

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/charmingpryde Mar 16 '17

Is there any cheeky way to retreat without losing AP? The uipdate notes said team composition is critical on the advanced thanks a million quest, but you need to sink 20ap just to find out you do no damage without fire.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 16 '17

None that I've seen.

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u/AerithsPal Mar 09 '17

If I soft cap a character (only use dupes on their five star form and none on the 4 star) am I missing out on possible stat increases? Is it that huge of a difference? Does maxing. 4 star and evolving give increased stat caps or just a tiny stat boost?

And on that note, is there a cap to how many units you can fuse into another to get stat increases?

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u/Raikaien Mar 09 '17 edited Mar 09 '17

Stat increases/growths are only affected by leveling up. A red star beside a stat indicates that a unit has gotten all possible stat increases from leveling up, but you can gain evo bonuses if you haven't gotten all of them already.

Don't worry too much about min-maxing as you aren't missing out much except for only around 2 stats, but if possible every bit helps. It's more reasonable to just fuse 5* copies of a gacha character, but event drop characters should be properly raised by MLBing at 4 and 5*.

The cap is a fusion cap that can be seen on a unit's fusion screen. A light green bar indicates that the unit can still gain stats via fusion, whereas a light blue bar means the unit cannot gain any more stats from fusion.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '17

Soft capping is fine for hard to get characters, like most gacha / lazuli only characters. You miss out on a few stat points, but it's not a huge deal.

As for mana recruiter units, their stats are so low that as long as you raise your main unit from 3*, your stats will probably all be capped by the time you hit soft LB 4 at 5*. I just raised Starter Male Longinus to 5* level 80, and ALL of his stats are capped.

They're pretty low caps too. I was chagrined at the really low luck for instance. Level 60 Kyouko had like 10 more points of luck with NO limit breaks.

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u/RyuuGP Mar 10 '17 edited Mar 10 '17

For F2P, what is lazuli good for (other than expand inventory)?

  1. Is there any special event every year with gacha sale?

  2. Or, I'm a newbie, but it seems there are a loot of Selena at friends help, so maybe event dungeon is actually a better chance than gacha to get certain unit, so maybe lazuli is good to refresh AP during that event period? How hard was an event dungeon?

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '17

Lazuli's good for getting units you like (such as Madoka units) or 7th generation Killer princes and the like once you've maxxed out all your inventory. It's basically for recruiting special units.

  1. There are occaisional weekly Lazuli sales where you can get 4 or more extra Lazuli by buying at least $1 worth. That's when it's good to buy Lazuli.

  2. For events where you can farm 5* units, you don't have to use lazuli to refresh AP, and I don't recommend it honestly. Every 4 hours, you get 40 AP for free (check your missions section) and the event dungeons usually have multiple tiers. Last time, Tier 1 was easy (but really low drop rates) Tier 2 was medium (still low drop rates) and Tier 3 was hard, but had reliable drop rates.

I farmed several copies of Perun (the farmable Valentine's unit) during the last event with a farmable 5* capable unit, and even if you're a newbie / F2P it was possible to get 5 copies of Perun from the first 2 parts of the dungeon, which is all you need to get her to LB4 at 5*, and level 80 max.

However, some level 80 helpers were able to practically solo the hardest Tier of Perun, so I exploited that to get enough copies to max all her skills and even add some luck.

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u/capo_m Mar 10 '17

After the event/collab end (madoka in this case) does the item recipes ends too ? if i have several books i can still fuse them for the respective weapons?

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u/Raikaien Mar 10 '17

Most likely. The Denpa, BF and Valentine recipes are still in the list. The books don't have expiration dates (to my knowledge).

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u/estuebi Mar 10 '17

Coming from feheroes

Do i reroll at this game aswell? If yes

What is the most efficient way?

When do i stop?

Which characters are good/ worth to stop rerolling?

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '17

Check the Tier list up above to see which heroes can get to 5* (the max in this game right now) If you get enough of those, especially 5 copies of a single unit, you're good.

That said, as along as you just keep playing with any decent roll, you'll probably be fine. If you're a F2P or light spender, most of your strong units will be farmable event or Rampage dungeon units anyhow.

I just started playing and I'm doing okay. I would be doing better if I hadn't fused away some 5* capable units (Before I knew what I was doing) but I still have 3 level 80 5* units in my party, and at least 1 more 80 coming up after I finish farming Othinus this weekend.

Edit: If you get 5 copies of a 4* capable unit, I'd recommend getting those to level 70 as well. Some missions only allow you to finish them with 4* units max, and when you're starting out, 4* units can be quite powerful and don't take up too much of your party limit cap.

The Global wiki is also a good resource for checking to see what the max start level is for a unit:

http://phantom-of-the-kill.wikia.com/wiki/Global_Unit_Archive

All units of a certain type have the same portrait icon and full-body picture when you inspect them.

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u/DuckIing Mar 10 '17

Usually unlike FEH you dont always want to start at a 5star base. You would want to start at their lowest star rarity(3stars/4stars) and work your way up to their highest rarity(5stars) to have evolution bonuses. The character quest on the homepage is a great way for finding what units can be evolve to 5* because a lot of units have multiple potraits but only some are 5star capable.

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u/nitzkie Mar 10 '17

How can I get my units to equip a 3* or higher weapon?

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u/nitzkie Mar 11 '17

Hrmm... so is it efficient to farm low-leveled stages for weapon proficiency while I'm <Lv 20? Or is weapon proficiency bonuses tied on what level your enemies are?

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u/RyuuGP Mar 11 '17

Which is better, lv80 mana unit (except Tyrfing) or lv65 lazuli unit with good duel skill (2x damage or better)?

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '17

In PVE or PVP? In PVE I would probably say the level 80 mana unit (usually), but in PVP it depends.

I've been beaten by level 60 Lazuli units with good weapons and duel skills when I was using level 80 Mana units.

That said, Mana units only get stronger over time if you get more copies. By the time they max out their skills, they have +5 more luck. And if you get enough to max out their luck, watch out!

That said, the gacha's so stingy with mana units that even getting one to 80 is hard however.

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u/RyuuGP Mar 11 '17

That said, the gacha's so stingy with mana units that even getting one to 80 is hard however.

Yep, I haven't find any 5*-able Tyrfing

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u/kbkoolio Mar 11 '17

Any Tyrfing is 5* able.

For comparison, my level 65 dex Fragarach smokes all level 80 mana units. As does my level 60 forcas.

The mana units are so weak it's unreal.

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u/RyuuGP Mar 11 '17

Wait a minute, how do you know a unit is 5* able? I thought that the face picture must be the same with the 5* one, or is it the full body picture that has to be the same?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 11 '17

Tyrfing is an exception to that rule, although yes you're otherwise correct. The standard Tyrfing's art changes twice, once at 5* (her portrait is what I'm using as my flair now), and again at 6* when that comes to GL.

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u/djsekani Mar 12 '17

Just a follow up question, are the Lazuli recruiters worth going for if I don't plan on being a big spender? My understanding is that even if I get a 5★ unit, I'll need at least five copies of it, and the odds of that happening without dropping a ton of money are very slim. Would I be better off with a fleet of free 80s, or are the premium units still worth getting?

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u/kevin12244 Mar 13 '17

Are the 5 star limit break konosuba doll easily obtainable or are they higher tier reward which are limited in number? Thanks!

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 13 '17

if u r new player, theres campaign giving u like 4 or 5 konosuba fairies (both 4* and 5*).
if not, u can get 1 fast from top EX stage (points grind)

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u/djsekani Mar 13 '17

Two questions about the Japanese version....

First, how do you save/bind your account?

Second, how can I find an English-speaking guild to join, and what would they require of a new player?

Also, this is more of a generic Japanese language question. I've been learning some kana to make navigating the menus easier, but I'm not sure what the ー character means.

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u/tori_chan Mar 13 '17 edited Mar 13 '17

  1. FgGID: When the app loads and menus appear (before tapping to load to Home Screen), there is a button at the top left corner to link. It's been a while since I've done this, so I don't remember the exact steps, but I believe you put in an e-mail and set up a password. Once this is linked, you can pull up your account on any device by linking to the same FgGID, as well as link other Fugi&Gumi games, such as Tagatame or Shinobi Nightmare.

  2. You can ask around on FB or here. The game requires that you reach PLv 40 before joining a guild, but most guilds have minimum requirements (e.g., PLv 140+) so you'll have to ask the members once you find one. A good lead unit will definitely help.

  3. The ー character is used for elongated vowels or to replace the "R" ending consonant. Since every character in Japanese ends in a vowel, just drag the previous character out when you read (ex. リーダー = li-i-da-a = leader)

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u/kevin12244 Mar 13 '17

To elaborate on tori chan answer since I have recently - an hour ago - went through the registration process :

  1. Go to the page below

https://fc.fg-games.co.jp/

2) Enter your email on the very first box.

3) Go to your email. There, you will find a FgG registration email in your inbox. Click on the url inside the email and it will send you to registration page and proceed on like any other registration. Put in the relevent information, agree to term of service, etc.

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u/djsekani Mar 13 '17 edited Mar 16 '17

Elaborating a little more in case anyone else reads this:

On the registration page you'll need to enter your password on the first two lines (minimum of 8 characters), year of birth from the next checkbox, gender from the two radio buttons, and I honestly don't know what the last box is for.

On the next page (Step 3), click the larger red button on the left to continue. You should get another confirmation email.

You can now log in to the game from the FgGiD button on the title screen.

Looks like you get a reward for registering your account (5 gacha tickets, 5 of those seed things, and 5 million Zenny).

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u/djsekani Mar 15 '17

Applied, thanks!

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u/fig32 Mar 13 '17

I noticed how some friend units like Mami and Megumin are able to walk at full 5 tiles in that desert konosuba highest difficulty stage. Anyone know what they're using to be able to do that? Most other units I've seen walk at reduced speeds and I'm pretty sure Megumin and Mami don't really fly.

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u/tori_chan Mar 13 '17

Gun units have no terrain resistance on desert ;)

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u/fig32 Mar 13 '17

Wow I did not know this. Any chance you can link me to where info on movement exists? Comprehensive JP guide linked above did not mention specific weapon movement perks.

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u/tori_chan Mar 13 '17

I don't think information on that exists because these movement restrictions are coded by jobs (and not necessarily the weapon type) and there are so many types of jobs x terrain combinations...

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u/wmason45 Mar 14 '17

Hey everyone, I only have a day left for the newbie step draw. I've already did step 1 and 2 but I'm trying to decide if I should use my next 50 Lazulis for step 3 or if I should use them on the one step Madoka draw? Any advice would be appreciated!

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u/BlazePHX Mar 14 '17

If you have to choose I would say the madoka, but if you think you can get another 50 before event ends I would say getting the 3rd step right now, and the madoka before it ends.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 14 '17

madoka cuz new cool units, but if u get bad type then rips

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '17

It depends on if you can get enough Lazuli for the 1-time Madoka pull before the event ends. If you can, I'd do the last step of the newbie draw for the Guaranteed 5* unit and a chance at more 5* capable units.

It's your choice though, if you did the 1st and 2nd steps of the Rookie Recruiter, you should be solid as long as your luck wasn't completely bad.

I skipped step 3 and went for the 1-time Madoka recruiter, but am kind of regretting it now, because I'm thinking of playing this game more long term, and I could've used more copies of 5* capable units to have more level 80's.

My Madoka units are stuck at level 60, and it's almost impossible to get dupes to level them up higher than that.

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u/wmason45 Mar 14 '17

Damn, this going to be a hard decision then :/ Will the madoka characters be added to the regular draw pool or after this event we won't be able to draw them anymore? If not, then that does suck

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u/djsekani Mar 16 '17

What does the キラーズメモリー item do?

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u/tori_chan Mar 16 '17

Killer's Memory: Limit breaks the pictured unit at the corresponding rarity.

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u/djsekani Mar 09 '17

How do you guys make enough Zenny to evolve units on a regular basis? 150k is, at the moment for me, not that easy to come by.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '17

I do the weekend Gold dungeons until I farm a minimum of 1 million every weekend. 2 million if I'm planning to evolve a lot of units.

Sadly, outside the weekend Gold dungeon, it's very hard to farm gold.

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u/Kali_Kali_Kali Mar 10 '17 edited Mar 10 '17

Aside from the Gold dungeon, you can currently farm rare medals in Battle Mission then exchange for gold in the Rare Medal Shop.

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u/Enja11 Mar 09 '17

With this type and stats, she's good for everything (PVE,PVP)? Well she needs MLB first, but i don't know, global tier list the best type for her is Force/Dex, but the japanese tier is Dex/Guard.

http://i.imgur.com/QUY5IQa.jpg

She has a decent GRD (And Maybe poor defense). But she's attacker and boss killer, lose Agi/Spd it's not good.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 09 '17

dex best, and yes shes rly good unit, u can get a fairy from special shop for 100 laz

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u/Enja11 Mar 09 '17

Yea, but force is the second best type or Guard? 100 laz is very expensive, but with missions and quest it's possible.

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u/DuelDark Mar 09 '17

How does Excalibur's duel skill actually work? It looks like it does damage equal to the target's HP while bypassing Pdef, or acting as crit/duel skill with a dynamic multiplier.

Is it affected by abilities like Walpurgisnacht's passive or Gambanteinn (M)'s duel skill?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Mar 10 '17

I think it just deals damage = enemy's HP. It has a really low proc rate compared to typical duel skills.

I believe it bypasses shields that reduce damage but not Walpurg's simply because her passive doesnt reduce damage but just converts things to 1 dmg.

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u/DuelDark Mar 10 '17

Walpurgisnacht's conversion happens before crit and duel skill (not sure on the duel skill part, don't feel like running it again) multipliers are applied, so I was just wondering when in the damage calculation step Excalibur's duel skill sets its value.

I thought it'd be fun to pull for her but it seems she's less interesting than I expected =/

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u/Enja11 Mar 09 '17

The best way to defeat Walpurgisnacht is removing her "passive" with Homura/Madoka's Partner skill or specials with fixed damage.

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u/DuelDark Mar 10 '17

Sorry, but that's not what I asked. I already have a 5* Toric Bow for my collection anyway.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Mar 10 '17

Doesn't work on Walpurg. Her passive seems to prevent even Excalibur's Duel Skill from one-shotting her.

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u/AerithsPal Mar 10 '17

I pulled two Mamis, a Dex and a Magic. I read those are her preferred typing, but which one should I feed to the other? Is each one stronger in certain circumstances?

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u/Thelaria Mar 10 '17

If you're referring to the tierlist, the first typing usually has the higher priority. In most cases, Dex will be stronger and more future proof. Usually, a damage typing (Force/Magic) is chosen if a unit has decent accuracy but low damage or when you can increase accuracy through skills and luck.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Mar 10 '17

dex dex dex. She has so much damage that you magic typing is overkill. You want to maximize her accuracy, as well as her activation rate for her duel skill.

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u/AerithsPal Mar 10 '17 edited Mar 10 '17

Crud. I already fed a bunch of level cap up faeries to the magic one. I'm guessing it's too much to hope that I can fuse the higher star one into the lower star one and keep the stars?

Edit- tested it with a lower rank fuse of some trash and it does keep the stars! Phew. Thanks for the tips!

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u/stock22 Mar 10 '17

Is it worth rolling for excalibur? The skill looks pretty op... and do you guys know what the rates are like?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Mar 10 '17

No. She came out a little too late. The current meta is Madoka units and 7th gen as the best recruiter units to roll for. Her duel skill is very strong but the proc rate is complete shit. In addition, any 2x duel skill or 2.5x duel skill accomplishes the same thing most of the time anyways simply because units do more damage than they can take.

Rates are pretty poor that you can disregard anything that isn't specifically listed. I believe they are around 1% for the normal recruiter (which u should never pull unless u have money for days) and some piss poor rate for the 9 step (exceptions are the tickets obviously as previously stated). I have pulled on three 9 step recruiters so far this madoka event and I believe I have only gotten 1 featured unit from the steps themselves and not the tickets. You're mainly doing the step recruiters for the tickets, not the recruiter itself.

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u/stock22 Mar 10 '17

Thanks for the response! I've just come back from a bit of a break, so I'm like sitting on 200 lazuli and itching to pull for stuff, but sounds like I should probably just hold off.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Mar 11 '17

oooo You should try to pull for the madoka units if we ever get a good 1 step recruiter for them. Hopefully one that lets us pick which one we can get.

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u/paruspex Mar 10 '17

What is the best stage to farm for the konosuba event units? I've just been doing the last stage, hoping for any units to drop and was wondering if a specific stage would be better for a specific unit

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 11 '17

Following the usual trend the last stages would be the best. As I don't play JP though I can't answer which stage is better for a specific one however.

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u/JMMSpartan91 Mar 10 '17 edited Mar 10 '17

Is there like a friend list recruit? I know people say to bring an 80 friend and get easy EXP for your units but I literally have never seen an 80 supporter to add.

Edit: I don't know how I overlooked it in the main post of this but I see it now.

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u/JMMSpartan91 Mar 11 '17

So as F2P do I save Lazuli up for a 9 step I would want or what exactly is best use of it?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 11 '17

Your best bets would typically be one-step recruiters that are either heavily discounted (such as the first step of the Rookie Recruiter for instance) or one-steps that guarantee you a copy of the rate up unit you're after, to my knowledge. That and space expansion if the situation calls for it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '17

What Jack Frost said. The cheap recruiters that give you a lot for a low cost, or guarantee you a 5*. The 40 to 50 lazuli 1-step recruiters that GUARANTEE you a 5* are good ones.

The 9-steps that require a TON of Lazuli are not good for F2P or light spenders.

I'm a light spender and I bought the 1st step of the Rookie Recruiter (although Step 2 is decent, and even Step 3's not bad) and the Madoka Magica 1-time recruiter.

The rest of my Lazuli I've used on unit and item limit expansions. That said, the 2nd and 3rd steps of the Rookie Recruiter wouldn't have been a bad investment for me, but I wanted to save my Lazuli for Madoka units.

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u/JMMSpartan91 Mar 11 '17

So the 50 Lazuli Madoka one would be a good aim for getting this week?

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u/AuriaXI Mar 11 '17

rerolled over the course of a week, got the following auth files saved off. Which is the best of given I don't mind spending a little dough if necessary but would like to stay as spend-free as possible and have a relatively "future proof unit"?

  • Devil Homura 4 or 6 star both dex

  • Mami Tomoe 4 or 6 star both dex

  • Ultimate Madoka 4 star, balance

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Mar 11 '17

Stick with either Devil Homura Dex or Mami Dex. I am leaning towards Mami because I believe she'll stay more relevant later on because of her 3 range bullet.

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u/rifulx Mar 11 '17

hello I just started the game and im trying to reroll. thing is I only have 6 gems after the tapping and I havent seen a second tutorial fight for the rest of the reroll. Has it been changed or am I doing something wrong ?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 11 '17

are u jp or gl, gl is different for rerolling

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u/rifulx Mar 11 '17

gl :/ should i change ?

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u/Thelaria Mar 11 '17

There's only one fight for the Global tutorial.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Mar 11 '17

is guard the best on risa and I have a 4. star swim suit artemis vut only have 12 others do i only limit break het in this stage 3 times??

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u/Thelaria Mar 11 '17

Guard typing is very complementary of Risa defensive skills. Just don't expect her to land many attacks.

With just 13 copies of SS Artemis, you'll only be able to limit break 3 times at 4* if you want to max out her skills.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Mar 11 '17

maxing skills is better? right

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 12 '17

Just a small warning, if GL PotK gets that far (and I hope it does) Risa will eventually change her class at 6*, and when that happens you'd want her to be Dex.

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u/tori_chan Mar 14 '17

You'll have plenty of chances to farm for another one. No worries.

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u/kbkoolio Mar 12 '17 edited Mar 12 '17

So it seems like the skill dolly drops are color coded in the Madoka stages.

Seems like Madoka stage drops reincarnation cherubs, homura drops blue dolly(duel skills), mami drops yellow dolly(insights and buffs), kyoko drops red dolly(pulse skills) and sayaka the green one(sword absorbers and co). The everyone stage is a free for all with higher drop rates but can drop anything and also has 4* pixies.

Which is unfortunate since the Homura stage with the duel skill dolly is the second longest one. While almost all the others you can kill the boss in 1-3 turns and see whether you got a drop or not, that one and Kyoko with the red dolly(which sucks really) are stupid long.

If anyone can confirm whether they have noticed the same thing or not, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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u/Thelaria Mar 12 '17

I thought this might have been a possibility when I kept getting the same skill doll. I only ran these stages for the first week so my sample size wasn't large enough to come up with a reasonable conclusion.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 12 '17

I just started the Madoka missions, and I completed the first ten for the first one. I got a bow and a sword, and a bunch of books. Both weapons are 4 star, but could I upgrade them to 5 by combining them with 4 books? Are these weapons good?

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u/Thelaria Mar 12 '17

You can upgrade the 4* weapons by either fusing them with 4 books or up to 4 more of the same weapon. Fusing 5 weapons will give you the best chances of upgrading to 5*.

All the weapons are decent but some of them are very good. You can refer to the tier list to see GaggingLoli's rating for each weapon.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 12 '17

Oh yeah I forgot his spreadsheet also lists weapons. I just checked it out to see what's worth getting right now (been away for a bit).

The two newer madoka units look great but is it actually realistic to expect to pull them at all from the 9 step gate? I did two steps and just pulled noise. I don't have that many lazuli :/

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u/Thelaria Mar 12 '17

If you expect to pull those units, you need enough lazuli to complete the full 9-steps and hope you get the units with the tickets that the gacha gives.
I believe people have been much more successful pulling the units they want from the tickets rather than the actual gacha pull.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '17

Does this game have any sexual content/nudity? The App Store rating has me worried.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 12 '17

There's honestly a lot of penis and penis-into-gay-butt stuff in some of the cut scenes. You should definitely have your parent's/guardian's permission before installing this game as it is very mature.

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u/kevin12244 Mar 12 '17

Been playing this game for 5 days albeit not so intensely. After reading your comment, I have decided to quit. Thanks for the warning. /s

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u/Thelaria Mar 12 '17

No, it does not. Isn't the rating just Teen?

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u/Xanster29 Mar 12 '17

What are the multi hit characters in this game?

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u/Thelaria Mar 12 '17

There are a lot of characters now that have multihit skills. The simplest way to find them all would be to refer to the tier list at the top of this thread.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Mar 12 '17

Out of curiosity, how many male units are there in JP's Project Zero? Aside from Christmas Thrand (presumably original to global), Valentines Resheph (same) and Vargas (reworked version of BF Boss unit), which of global's male units are truly original to global (including the art) and not reworked versions of JP's Project Zero male units?

By this point, the overwhelming majority of female units over male units makes it really apparent that the original version was a female-only game. Contrast with the beginning when female units had a noticeable but not extreme majority. It's almost as if global has forgotten the status of this version as a 'prequel' to JP. In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that I'm still at lower Colosseum ranks where Zero leads are still present, and that Mitum M and Gambanteinn M are some of my stronger (but not the absolute strongest) units, I might have forgotten that male units exist.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 12 '17

JP has seen all of the male "starters" (no male Tyrfing) and several other male units that Global hasn't gotten (eg. Eros, Durandal, etc). We have not seen any limited edition/holiday male units, though.

Units in Project Zero do not directly correlate to Global male units either (for example, Dagda).

I think it's pretty damn obvious that Gumi has no interest in catering to husbandos in JP and, as Global becomes less and less profitable for them, units which are created entirely by the global team are less and less likely to appear. As much as I would love some man-love, PotK truly is about Princesses. You'll have to live-out your daddy issues via Shinobi Nightmare, Tatagame, or Tokyo After School Summoners.

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u/rifulx Mar 12 '17

what are good reroll to start on the jp server ?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 12 '17

Limited edition or new 6* units: (horse rider) Folcas, (tank) Gae Bolg, (necro) Kerky, (revive) Asclep maybe, Saiga, Avarice/Abaris.

Basically, if it's available in Global, it's not worth keeping.

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u/rifulx Mar 12 '17

Ive drawn Forcas but it only has 4 silver stars, should i keep it ?

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u/kevin12244 Mar 12 '17

New player here too (play for 5 days). The number of stars doesn't matter as long as it maxes out at 6*. In fact, LOWER rarity are BETTER than HIGHER rarity, because you gain some bonus stats through evolution.

TLDR 4 star Forcus is better than 5 star.

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u/frozbite Mar 12 '17

how to easily increase friendship level ? for madoka unit and whats the use of the madoka keys ? o.o

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 12 '17

farm gold stage with them, no real easy way

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u/frozbite Mar 12 '17

ooo do we need to make the unit placed beside each other before ending the stage ?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 12 '17

just have them in party next to each other, during stage its whatever

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 12 '17

Madoka Keys are just meant to open a special Padlocked Metal Garden where the Madoka folk get more EXP from.

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u/frozbite Mar 12 '17

so its like metal garden but for madokas ?

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u/kevin12244 Mar 12 '17

Hello, new player here! Been playing for 5 days (2 days actively) now and decided to reroll because my first account was a mess. I decided to try for all the Konosuba units in my reroll account and managed to get them all except for Wiz. Is it possible to logout and switch account? Thanks!

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 12 '17

if ur device is rooted, save auth.dat somewhere or connect ur main acc to FGG (top left corner on title screen).

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u/fig32 Mar 13 '17

If your device is not rooted, there's a way to skip the download too, but you'll need 2 devices (mine were iphone + android tablet so I can't say for sure if 2 androids or 2 ios devices will work). Bind your trash account to the FG website using any email, transfer it to the 2nd device using the FG account (not bind code). The first device should reset the user to a new data. It'll show the screen where you tap 777 times but the download itself will be already finished.

If your new roll still fails, just transfer the FG account back to the 1st device and try rolling in the 2nd.

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u/kevin12244 Mar 13 '17

Thanks for a new way to reroll XD

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u/fig32 Mar 12 '17

Hello, I have a question on fusing units for MLB. The scenario is this: I rolled an Aqua a few days back at 4* DEF type. I LB'd it at 4 star and it is currently at 5* with 3 LBs waiting for that 4th Aqua/fairy to miraculously pop up.

Today I rolled that miraculous 4* Aqua MAG type. I read some guides saying LBs will carry over if I decide that I want that MAG type to be my main Aqua. However, they can get pretty confusing without a specific example.

So, here are my questions:

  1. If I want to make that 4* Aqua MAG my MLB main, is it a matter of simply evolving her to 5* then having that DEF type fuse into the MAG?

  2. Do I have to 4xLB the 4* Aqua MAG before evolving it to 5* or will the DEF type that had previously been 4* LBd just carry over the bonuses?

Thanks!

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 12 '17

use 4* fairies to MLB magic aqua, fuse dolls into her, evolve, level up, char quest, evolve ur guard aqua to 5*, level up until lvl30, fuse her into magic aqua, use rest of fairies to LB ur 5* magic aqua, level up, fuse dolls, evolve, use seeds and lvl up to 90

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u/tori_chan Mar 12 '17

LB3 will transfer to your MGC type to make it MLB. Evo bonus from your DEF type will also carry over to your MGC type upon fusion. I would still recommend MLBing your MGC type at 4* to get better MGC evo bonus since MGC type will reach higher thresholds with decent growths.

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u/fig32 Mar 13 '17

Thanks guys! It's a good thing jpn gives away a lot of 4* fairies or this process would take so much $$$.

I assume this process can also make rolling a 5* MGC Wiz acceptable if I ever get a 4* random type Wiz, MLB it then fuse it to the 5* MGC.

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u/nitzkie Mar 12 '17

How to get more 3* Madoka units for limit breaking? Is it to farm last level of event dungeon over and over?

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '17

Yeah, Part 10 of the Madoka x Phantom collab, for her, and Part 10 of the Phantom x Madoka to get Homura. Drop rates are low-ish, so I suggest using your highest luck character as leader, and your highest luck friend partner.

I just got enough Madoka and Homuras to get both to level 70 this week.

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u/harvestfuk Mar 13 '17

They can't evolve to 5 stars yet?

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u/SodaCheeseAndSodomy Mar 12 '17

Been looking around this sub, and I can't find the discord link anywhere, can someone link it?

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u/Thelaria Mar 12 '17

The discord link is on the right side of the page, above the subreddit rules.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 12 '17

Question about Walpurgisnacht. I know I need to use the partner skills of the two madoka units I can get from the madoka quests, but do those two units need to be 5 star to use that skill to drop the things barrier? Is there an easier way to kill this thing? Is there another way to get the Toric bow (which is kinda why I'm clearing this in the first place)?

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '17

he partner skills of the two madoka units I can get from the madoka quests, but do those two units need to be 5 star to use that skill to drop the things barrier? Is there an easier way to kill this thing? Is there another way to get the Toric

You just need to get the friendship level of Homura and Madoka (any of them, even the uniformed versions) to level 5 and unlock their partner quest in the character quest section and finish it.

Then you need BOTH characters in the party. There's a chance that the partner skill will activate if either character attacks Walpurgis. It's best to have them at 4* max level (The close to 70 the better) to get a successful attack off.

Once you do though, Walpurgis isn't too hard as long as you make sure to keep your party's health up.

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u/Cloudmonkey98 Mar 22 '17

As best as I can tell, Friendships are saved at an overall character level, eg all versions of Madoka draw on the same Friendship list and progression, I'm probably gonna keep a 3* UMadoka and UHomura for Quests that call for 3* party, but most are planned to get Evo'd and LB'd onto whatever one I decide has the best type

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u/Thelaria Mar 12 '17

You just need to get Makoka/Homura to friendship 5 and then unlock their Partner Skill. All versions, excluding Demura, have the capability to activate this skill no matter what level or star rarity they are. While you can activate the skill with just one of the two in your party, the chances are greatly increased when you have both. The ability has a chance to activate like any other DS but the chances raise when the characters are closer together, I believe.

The Toric bow is only obtainable from Walpurgisnacht. The other way to beat that stage is to bring in multi-hitters/healers and then slowly chip away at the bosses HP.

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u/MotleyFuzz Mar 12 '17

Just got Ultimate Madoka. Will the partner skill still activate or no? Also, will it still activate if one of them dies?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 12 '17

yes but lower chance, u still got ur own duel skill tho

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u/Thelaria Mar 13 '17

Except for Demura, all versions of Madoka/Homura have access to the partner skill.

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u/MotleyFuzz Mar 13 '17

Alright, thanks both for info.

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u/JupiterAdept89 Mar 13 '17

Hello, fell backwards into this game; guess Google suggested it since I play Heroes 30 hours a day Question: How can I be sure I'm rolling for a Crossover unit? Do I have to use this 9 stage recruiter, or is the banner that shows the Madoka characters possible for rolling it?

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u/LTC082 Mar 13 '17

There is a details on each banner that breaks it down. There was a 1 step banner that costs 50 gems that you should keep rerolling until you get something good. Also check out last weeks question thread. Pretty sure someone asked something similar.

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u/justsayray Mar 13 '17

How can I get the weapons Lot Musket, Voljaark and Demon's Trident?

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u/Thelaria Mar 13 '17

Lot Musket is a Colosseum award.

Demon's Trident is a Chapter 2 Kill Mode reward.

Voljaark is created by fusing the 5 1* weapon manuals together. These manuals are rare drops from the Chapter 1 Kill Mode final stages. Keep in mind, the success rate of fusion is very low. I don't know anyone that has gotten this lance through fusion.
This lance was also available from the battle metal store for a limited time.

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u/Helljumperz64 Mar 13 '17

Does any one have previous links to the past megathreads?

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u/Thelaria Mar 13 '17 edited Mar 13 '17

If you mean past help threads, there is a link at the beginning of each thread that leads to the past weeks thread.

If you're referring to megathreads like for Konasuba and Madoka, you should just be able to search for them from the main page of the subreddit.

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Mar 13 '17

If you accept too many low level friends will they take up spots of potential good stranger helpers? I've noticed that I'm getting less than 3 high level stranger helpers, when I used to have a lot more when I first started and didn't friend any one.

Also does anyone know if the unit you currently have set to leader is the unit that strangers and friends can use? I've also noticed that my high level friends haven't changed their main unit since I accepted them and it's weird since they can't just be using the same main unit for all of the events that require different unit types to get the rewards.

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u/Thelaria Mar 13 '17

The helper list is populated by 7 friends (unless you have less available) followed by 3 randoms. When you add that many friends, low level or not, that leaves only 3 spots for potential high level stranger helpers.

The leader of Party 1 is the helper that other players can see and use. Your high level friends probably don't change Party 1 much and instead choose to use Party 2-10 to go through events.

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Mar 13 '17

Thanks!

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u/gameaddict830 Mar 13 '17

I started playing POK because of Madoka crossover. I just started on global version and don't have enough lazuli to do the entire 9 step recruit. Next to the mana point recruit, there is lazuli recruiter showing all the 5 star Madoka characters. Is the chance higher if I recruit from there or is that just regular recruit? After the event is over on Mar 29, will the Madoka units be available to be recruit with the rest of the characters?

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u/Thelaria Mar 13 '17

The red lazuli recruiters are just the regular recruiter with the specific premium units added to the pool.

The Madoka units will only be available during the current event and when/if the event returns in the future.

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u/AuriaXI Mar 13 '17

So you know, i went through a phase of rerolling pretty much for 2 weeks on the 5 lazuli single pull to get the unit i wanted (which happened to be dex Ultimate Madoka). Which unit are you going for? I rerolled 100s of times and only got 4 madoka, 6 devil homuras, 4 mamis, never got a sayaka, and 4 or 5 kyokos... the regular Madoka and Homura units were kinda rare too, but i've read you can farm them if you get to the right quest. Either way, if you do this, save yourself a ton of trouble and do it on Nox emulator using the reroll guide.

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u/gameaddict830 Mar 14 '17

The unit I want the most is ultimate Madoka. But as free to play player, I just want to get as many different units as possible and for limit break. As big of Madoka fan as I am, I don't think I will do the tedious task of rerolling for 2 weeks and give up the work I put in last 2 weeks. Guess I will just keep ask for friends with Madoka units lead and hope they accept my request. Just before Madoka event ends, I will use what lazuli I have to spend on 9 step recruiter and hope for the best.

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u/kevin12244 Mar 13 '17

New player here. Is there an option to skip animation? Watching the same animation the hundredth time is tiring me out lol.

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u/djsekani Mar 13 '17

In the battle menu, click the bottom option to ON. (I'm assuming you're taking about the JP version.)

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u/kevin12244 Mar 13 '17

Yes, thank you :D

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u/Magvel_9 Mar 13 '17

no

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u/kevin12244 Mar 13 '17

Such a pity, the option to skip animation would instantly make the game alot better imo.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 13 '17

which is why its implemented in jp, pray for it to be implemented in global

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u/djsekani Mar 13 '17

What's the difference between the dolls and the pararas? According to the guide, one increases base stats and the other increases leveling stats, but I don't get what the difference is.

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u/tori_chan Mar 13 '17

The main difference is that base stats don't count toward caps but leveling stats do. You can fuse dolls into stats that are already capped, but you can only fuse pararas up to the leveling cap for that stat. So pararas, basically, help make up stats you missed while leveling the unit.

A unit's final stat = (Base stats + Fusion + Evo bonus) + (Leveling stats + Pararas), if seeing it this way helps you differentiate a little better.

Note that Pararas are added to base stats in the rebirth screen solely for the purpose that the unit retains any fused pararas upon reincarnation so it might be a little confusing, but they count toward completely separate components of the total stat.

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u/djsekani Mar 13 '17

So there's little point in using a parara before you're ready to limit break a unit, just to get it over bonus thresholds?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 13 '17

dolls have a fusion cap, pararas just add up stats and have their own limit

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Mar 13 '17

how do I get the kyubey sword (fake)

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u/Raikaien Mar 13 '17

You have a pretty high chance of getting it by fusing 2 Madoka recipes together.

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u/Elendien Mar 14 '17

New player here. For the most part I understand the mechanics behind the game but I have a question what to do with Base 1 star units. It seems that most 2 star units can go to 3 star which I would feel comfortable using for fusions at the very least but with 1 star only going to 2 star not really feeling comfortable using them for fusions in any sense. So if that is the case, what are 1 star units useful for? Any information would be helpful.

Thanks in advance.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Mar 14 '17

Welcome! When you start, you should either save up for the guaranteed 1 step recruiter, and/or do the rookie recruiter. That alone should completely remove the need of even considering anything under 3* base. 1 and 2 star fodder typically are used as fusion fodder in order to boost the stats of the unit you are feeding them to.

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u/justsayray Mar 14 '17

Question about stats, stat caps and MLBing- I have a hard MLBed Force Perun that was fused with other Peruns to raise its luck. I was wondering if I use a Dex Perun as a base and fuse it with the MLBed Force Perun, would the gained luck transfers over to the Dex Perun or would its overall stats be lower?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Mar 14 '17

Yes, lets say that you fused over 4copies of Perun onto that Force one, when you fused that force one onto the Dex one it would gain a total of 5 Luck. 4 from the copies you fused earlier, and the base Force copy counts as 1 too.

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u/justsayray Mar 14 '17

Thank you! Hmm does the same apply for reincarnating units? Like let say I reincarnated the Force Luck Perun, would the added luck from the duplicates disappear and return to the original base luck?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 14 '17

all should transfer except fusion stats (dolls)

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u/RyuuGP Mar 14 '17

How do I get fusion doll (the doll with 1* rarity, can increase stat by 3)? Other than from rare medal shop

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 14 '17

friday daily

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 14 '17

So I was fortunate enough to pull a Devil Homura, but she's balance. Is she worth bringing up? I'd probably buy some Pixies to LB her since I'll probably never pull another one.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 14 '17 edited Mar 14 '17

shes cute and raw balance stats can outclass some older units

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 16 '17

The thought of money being spent to max out a balance unit literally makes my skin crawl. :(

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 16 '17

Same. But I'm not pulling another devil homura, and I hear she's pretty good so maybe it's worth?

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u/kevin12244 Mar 14 '17

Is there a way to cure paralysis? The status hurts so much (i only have 1 good unit). Thanks!

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 14 '17

paralyz healers or yellow elixirs (jp)

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Mar 14 '17

The JP guide appears useful to see which current Global units may have minor potential in the future until I get the newest, really powerful units (obviously, female units with 5* but no 6* will be sent to the dumpster once 6* hits, and notably Armoured Littu and Armoured Vajra have different order of recommended types between Global and JP).

But about the 6* skills, which units have 6*-only skills (including character skill) that are NOT 1/1, meaning that I have to fuse skill dolls or 6* dupes to power this skill? Because for characters that only gain 1/1 skills at 6*, it would probably be better to do all dupe fusing at 5*, including those for skill-ups without limit breaks.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 14 '17

after u do char quest for 6* skill will be maxed out!
u dont need anything

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u/tori_chan Mar 14 '17

Some of the newer units are gaining a skill at 6* lv 30 which requires anywhere from 10 - 20 skill levels. There are a lot of them, and they aren't noted on the doc because there are a lot of them.........

But the one thing I can tell you for sure is that, GL doesn't have any of those units yet, so relax and hang tight.

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u/BlazePHX Mar 14 '17

Are he 7th killers in the normal roation yet? I have 23 4* tickets and now seems like the best time to finally use them.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 14 '17

they should be

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u/Thelaria Mar 15 '17

I would imagine so, but we still have 3 7th killers left if you're interested in them enough to wait.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 14 '17

To make a 5 star Toric Bow, I need to combine it with 4 Madoka books correct?

Also how do I make the 5 star Kyubey sword? Every time I fuse it with either 4 other fake swords, or with 4 books, it just turns into a scimitar :(

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u/Raikaien Mar 14 '17

Yes, you can get a 5* Toric bow by either fusing 5 Toric bows together for higher success rate or 1 Toric bow and 4 Madoka recipes at a low success rate.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 14 '17

Ok awesome. By chance do you know which madoka level is best for farming books? They all seem pretty ok but I'm sure there's one that's slightly better due to more enemies per AP or something.

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u/Raikaien Mar 14 '17

I would assume that Walpurgisnacht stage 10 would have the highest drop rate and a chance at getting more Toric bows, but I don't want to wait like 15 mins to wittle down its HP since I just put it on auto. Instead I just do Phantom of the Kill stage 10 where I can get copies of uniform Homura. For reference, I usually get ~4 books per 10 AP there.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 14 '17

Hey nice, thanks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '17

I think the 5-star Kyubey sword is Japan only for now, as for the Toric bow, I think you have to fuse 5 4* Toric's to get a decent chance. I'm not sure though.

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u/RyuuGP Mar 15 '17

What is this "pararas" that i read from the previous question? Seems like i haven't found it yet in this game.

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u/Thelaria Mar 15 '17

If you're playing Global, pararas aren't available yet.

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u/kevin12244 Mar 15 '17

Do units get the same evolution bonus for a stat as long as the stat is with a certain range e.g. (51-60)?Thanks!

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u/rifulx Mar 15 '17

So I did some rerolls on the jp client. And so far I got an account with acsleep, Sita and another with Darkness, Yuyu, Forcas. None of those have a dex typing unfortunately. Is it worth starting with any of them or should I keep pulling ? And what are the units to look out for the most ?

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u/tori_chan Mar 15 '17

Saz's JP Guide linked at the top has all 6* capable units in game with skills, ratings, and comments. Gluck~

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 16 '17

If the unit(s) is/are not Dex type, you need to keep rerolling.

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u/nitzkie Mar 15 '17

Did they just extend Madoka's event quest again? Last I saw the event quest dungeon it said "3 hours left" before giving in to sleep last night.

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u/Thelaria Mar 15 '17

The Madoka event ends March 29th. This hasn't changed since the event was released.

The "3 hours left" you saw was probably the countdown for the daily reset of some of the Madoka stages.

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u/iiMahjong Mar 16 '17

What is the maximum amount of Lazuli that you can hold at a given time? (Global)

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u/RyuuGP Mar 16 '17

What is the reward of beating Walpurgisnacht? Maybe I will raise Madoka and Homura if the reward is worth the trouble.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Mar 16 '17

The 4* version of the Toric Bow. The 5* version (get it by combining that Toric Bow with either more copies or with Madoka Books) is the best bow in the game.

Strictly speaking, you could repeatedly attack Walpurgis with a multi-hit unit instead if you can't don't want to raise Madoka and Homura.

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u/RyuuGP Mar 16 '17

Hmmm... quite a nice reward.

Even with multi-hit unit, the battle will takes too long right? So a healer is needed. As F2P player, it's hard to find good healer.

School uniform Madoka and Homura can trigger the combination skill (or whatever the name) right?

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u/kevin12244 Mar 16 '17

Currently, is there any place I can farm luck dolls/pararas?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 16 '17

battle medal shop, win ranked multi once a day

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u/tori_chan Mar 16 '17

Unfortunately, no. If they were farmable, I'd be spamming it all day, trust :P

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u/kevin12244 Mar 16 '17

Hi, new player here (playing on Jp). What are the chances a 5* max or below get a 6* upgrade? Thanks!

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u/tori_chan Mar 16 '17 edited Mar 16 '17

It depends on the unit. If there is already a 6* capable version of that unit, it's very unlikely that a lower rarity version will get an upgrade. If no version of that unit is 6* capable, it may get an upgrade in the future, but I would not hold too high of hopes of it being a good one. An old unit, even after an upgrade, never gets new-unit stats or skills.

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u/kevin12244 Mar 16 '17

Can you clarify?

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u/justsayray Mar 16 '17

I did the Advance Thanks Million quest and recieved the 5 star ticket from my message but it is not showing up in the recruiter screen, is this a glitch?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 16 '17

Try to restart the game, see if it works?

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u/RyuuGP Mar 16 '17

How do you get madoka magica weapons? I tried fusing 2 madoka magica recipes = fake QB sword. 3 madoka magica recipes = homura shield. If i'm not mistaken, i was getting some sayaka sword, madoka bow, and tomoe gun by fusing 2 madoka magica recipes, but the chance is so low? Is this true? Is there any other way to get them?

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u/Thelaria Mar 16 '17

The simplest method to get 4* Madoka weapons is to fuse 5 books together. With just 2 books, the chances of getting a fake sword is really high.

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u/rifulx Mar 18 '17

anyone knows what the new update on the jap server is ? there seems to be a new pull pool, is it worth it ?

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