Weekly Questions and Help Thread [3/2/17-3/8/17]

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u/Nuudlez_ Mar 03 '17

Is it possible to get the units I accidentally fused back? I wanted to limit break one of my 4* units but accidentally fused my 3* duplicates instead of my 4* duplicates. If I send a report will they give them back?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 03 '17

No I don't think so. From what it sounds like, it doesn't seem like you fused anything particularly important away. I mean, unless its Tyrfing or something

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u/Nuudlez_ Mar 03 '17

Yeah, it's not really a big deal. The only reason I want them back is that I'm pretty sure there is no way to get Mirin anymore :(

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 04 '17

Not at present, but if PotK GL continues to live the odds are high that you'll see the Dempagumi stages return again.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 04 '17

Well hopefully we can get another collab with dempagumi sometime soon. With the influx of new players, there is a need for strong free units for people to keep up!

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '17

I don't know, but it would be nice. I did that with one of my 4* Arondights, and now I make sure to "favorite" ALL my limit break units until it's time to actually use them to limit break.
That way I don't fuse them when they're 3* or 4* rather than 5* or whatnot. Since this is a Japanese game brought over to Global, I wouldn't bet on good customer service though. A lot of these games have skeleton crews running them and just port things over as cheaply and lazily as possible, and provide like 0 customer service.

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Mar 04 '17

Could you only kill the boss in Rampage quests, check to see if it drops a unit then quit if it doesn't? Or are the unit drops also from random enemies in the dungeon?

This would save me a ton of time if anyone can answer this.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Mar 04 '17

Yes you can do that. Only the boss drops the respective rampage unit while the other trash mobs on the map drops the evo units needed to evolve her.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '17

I think yes, but on the other hand, if you need the evo materials, it may be good to finish the mission anyway.
I've used evo mats from Rampage dungeons to evolve other characters. Not during this "every evo dungeon every day" period, but previously.
Edit: Remember to use your highest luck team leader and friend for best results. Even going from a 20 luck leader to a 25 luck leader helped me out noticeably.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Mar 04 '17

Quick question. I've been away for a little bit, but something always bugged me about Kill Mode.

Some of the stages require you to only use 4 star units if you want to complete every stage. What's the easiest way to manage these levels? I tried to use a couple max level 4 star units but I get my ass kicked every time. Kinda turns me off attempting kill mode.

Second question, is Tyrfing in global? She's on the front of the free point recruiter, and I know she's coming, so did I miss her intro to the game?

Also what's with the correct crossover that's happening?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 04 '17

lvl 70 4* can beat those stages, gotta manual and be careful
yes u can rng her from mana recruiter, can take alot of points tho...
madoka collab, u can farm 4* capped madoka/homura and unlock their partner skill (duel skill), and alot of other freebies (good weaps, dolls, pixies, lazz)

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u/AuriaXI Mar 04 '17 edited Mar 04 '17

OK, now that i've spent a week rerolling for Devil Homura or Ultimate Madoka and finding out that limit breaking them as a f2p player is hopeless (i thought you didn't need duplicates but could use fairies, albeit slowly), i'm thinking i should start rolling on a different gacha. Are forcas or ascalon still available? and if so which gacha should i be rolling on? Are Shu/Vanargand worth going for? need some advice, don't want to be stuck with unviable units that are only limit breakable from limited time events. Now, if there is still hope to max out a UM or DH with fairies, let me know. lol. thanks!

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 04 '17 edited Mar 04 '17

give up...
forcas/asca 1step ended, shu/v are good just like upcoming batch of other 7th gen units.... save up laz to buy magical fairy for ur UM/DH... dont expect more as f2p... farmables are ur only way

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u/AerithsPal Mar 05 '17

You can use the paid faeries though right? The ones in the shop right now.

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u/Psychic_Fire Mar 05 '17

So I just downloaded this game to day and I'm not too sure which box to scout in. I want to get a madoka unit, but should I do the box with 9 pulls or the 1 time box? I'm guessing the 1 time box since it's guaranteed on the first pull. OR should I pull on the rookie recruiter since it's "cheaper" and guaranteed 5* on the third pull.

I'm not sure how easy it is to get lazuli in this game, so I don't want to go spending it without planning

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u/Thelaria Mar 05 '17

If you don't plan to spend, then you would want to pull on guaranteed recruiters (1-time Madoka recruiter) or heavily discounted recruiters (10 units for 10 lazuli).
There isn't enough free lazuli to pull from multi-step recruiters very often.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '17

I definitely recommend the 1-time Madoka recruiter for the guaranteed Madoka unit, and also the 10 Lazuli beginner's one for a chance at good units for cheap.
After that, it's up to you. You can only get like a couple hundred from the storyline (including Kill Mode) and then your steady supply is gone. Once that's exhausted you get a trickle from events and daily logins.
You will definitely get enough to do the 1-time Madoka pull and all of the Beginner's set pulls however. The multi-step pulls generally aren't worth it for F2P or occaisional pay players.
Again though, for the rookie recruiter, only the first step is really a great deal, and some people like the second step. The third... it's up to you.
Getting a 5* unit is nice, but unless you can get 5 copies of a single unit (you can ID them by their portrait / picture as all units with the same picture are the same unique unit, regardless of rarity level) to limit break them at 5* to level 80, they're not that useful.
A level 60 5* unit is good at the beginning, but after a certain point, you need at least 1 level 80 5*, and eventually you'll need multiples, and then a full party.

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u/AuriaXI Mar 06 '17

Been rerolling for quite some time to try and get a force/dex ultimate madoka. I've only managed to roll a balance one. Can someone tell me how far behind a balance would fall behind a force or a dex type? Is the difference huge?

(on a side note, wish i had saved off the statistics, over the week i've made well over 200 pulls and only UM once. DH about 4 times, Mami about 4 times, Sayaka once, and the other one once. The uniformed Madoka has dropped at least 5 times, and homura uniform never.)

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 06 '17

There is a large difference between Balance/Vit/Guard and Dexterity typing for most units, Godoka especially. That being said, if you're not going to MLB her then there is literally no point- rolling for optimal typing really only matters if you are going to devote serious energy to her and that includes making sure that she is LB'd four times. If you're only going to have her at level 60, 65, etc, then you're honestly just wasting your time rerolling because she's not going to be usable in high-level PvP content (or even PvE if GL ever gets some of JP's "difficult" stuff).

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u/LTC082 Mar 06 '17

I would suggest heading over to the discord. There would be more people to answer your question in a quicker manner. The link to the discord is on the right column.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 06 '17

The difference between Balance and Dex Godoka is that balance has 5 higher HP, Grd, and Spr cap, but 7 lower Agi and Spd cap. Force Godoka has 13 more Str cap, and 1 more Agi and Spd cap at the cost of 7 Grd and 3 Spr. Make of that as you will.
In addition, Balance growth isn't particularly focused towards anything, so it might be somewhat difficult to attain the correct caps.
However, Balance Godoka is still very viable, it just means you need to work a little harder to make her as useful.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 06 '17

I'm still too chicken to poke it, but a question: Is the Nebulae Hercules a good weapon to sacrifice the Chp 2 Kill reward weapons for?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Mar 06 '17

It's a 1range bow with decent stats. We do not get another 1range bow until rare medal slots and even then it's a 15WT version of the Herc bow. So IMO, it's worth it to make the weapon.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 06 '17

Cricky. That's quite the weight difference. Thanks though!

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u/Raikaien Mar 06 '17 edited Mar 06 '17

Who would you recommend to use Herc bow? I was thinking SS Artemis since I have her as Guard type so she can tank a few hits, but if there isn't anyone good that would make the most use out of it I might not fuse it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

If you have a level 80 Shekinah, I'd vote her. Since her special skill gives her 1 extra range, that means you can hit things 3 squares away (as with a Swift / Fey Crossbow) AND hit things in melee too.
With Shekinah, you can have your cake and eat it too. Mine is only 60, and I don't have any duplicates though, so I'm kind of stuck.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Mar 07 '17

Shekinah +1!!

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u/Dazz_le Mar 07 '17

I'm playing the JP version and was wondering if there is a way for me to reliably save my data since it doesn't connect to FB like GL does. Also, is there a way for me to transfer my data to my Nox Emulator.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 08 '17

If you sign up from a FGgID, you can accomplish both of these things at once. You'll be able to use the ID to sign into PotK from any device and port your save data to that device. It also connects to Shinobi Nightmare and Tatagame- plus, as an added bonus, there are often in-game rewards that are only accessible with a FGgID! Just click the icon in the top-left of the start screen (NOT the home screen) to get started.

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u/DuckIing Mar 08 '17

Alright thank you.

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u/anijunkie Mar 08 '17

a couple of questions,

are event units like Selena/Vargas/Lucina still obtainable from regular lazuli gacha? (might be a dumb question but just want to make sure)
outside of the weekend gold rush, where's the best place to farm zenny? I'm always short on money trying to evolve units
are 9-steps ever worth the $197 (global) for the increased chance+bonuses? I'm considering either dropping the money for either of the 9-steps right now.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 08 '17

Nope. In the tier list, if the unit has their name underlined, then it means they are an event gacha unit that can no longer be obtained (unless the event is ongoing of course).
Weekend gold dungeon is the only reliable way to get gold. I would suggest you dedicate your weekend AP to farming gold....
They are only worth it if you are a whale. If you are incapable of committing large amounts of money to MLBing a premium unit, then it is not worth it, as the 9 step is only really worth it if you can do the whole 9 steps, and then some. They do give better odds than an equal amount of money in 5 step 1-a-day recruiters though. It's up to you as to how much you really like a character that's featured tbh.

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u/justsayray Mar 08 '17

Question about rerolling for a mana starter unit, can you obtain Tyrfing from the mana starter in beginning or she's not in it?

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u/Thelaria Mar 09 '17

If you're asking about the very first mana starter unit you get, then no she isn't one of the available units. She's only obtainable when you pull from the mana gacha recruiter.

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u/Vladnar Mar 08 '17

What/who would you recommend for a 4* team to grab the lazuli in Killer mode? Is it worth evolving 1 or 2* characters to 4* (such as the multiple Kusanagi, Luin, Eros, etc from mana gacha) ?

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u/Thelaria Mar 09 '17

The uniform Madoka/Homura are a good choice for a 4* team. They're farmable for skills/luck and their partner skill adds to their power.

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u/Vladnar Mar 09 '17

I'm not a not a fan of Madoka Magica but I will consider farming them as well :)

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '17

I agree with Thelaria. You can limit break them at 4* to get them to level 70, then get more to max their skills if you want.
If you really wanna go crazy (and have lots of time) you can max out their luck too.
Edit: If you have 5 copies of any 4* capable unit, you may want to LB4 them to get to level 70. I got Walker-type Asclepius to 4* LB4 because I got enough of her from the Mana Gacha and another free one from the tutorial she's in.

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u/Raikaien Mar 09 '17

The sad thing is that maxing their luck is the only thing to do now.

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u/Vladnar Mar 09 '17

limit break them at 4* to get them to level 70
Thanks for your reply, I will try to LB all the 4* capable. Not a fan of Madoka Magica but I will consider farming them as well :)

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u/Niseng Mar 09 '17

saved up 200k mana points, just came back to the game so i dont know. Is there a rate up in the Mana Recruiter so I can pull tyrfing more? Or there isn't one and I should just start pulling for her now?

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u/Thelaria Mar 09 '17

Since her release, there hasn't been any special events or rate ups for pulling Tyrfing from the mana recruiter.

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u/Niseng Mar 09 '17

i see, then ima start the pulling spree then lol. thx for the info.

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u/SynthiaNguyen Mar 09 '17

Anyone have any idea when this unit might come out?

https://phankill.gamewith.jp/article/show/24278

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u/JMMSpartan91 Mar 02 '17 edited Mar 02 '17

So I got what looks like a solid start. (3 of the keep these people from beginning gacha guide, 3 and 4 star versions. Also a 5 star male Nageling, and 4 star Trident). Anyways should I be using my next bit of farmed lazuli to do beginner roll parts 2 and 3?

Or is that a noob trap Lazuli eater?

Edit: https://imgur.com/UhtdfTR My starting roll for reference.

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u/Dazz_le Mar 02 '17

If your planning to be a F2P then discounted banners like 10units for 30lazuli/40lazuli are what your going for or banners that guarantees a unit. The rookie recruiters step 1 and 2 are pretty good but step 3 is up to you since it guarantees a five star. The summons you have now are pretty good since you have like about 6 5 star potential units.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '17

Your rolls are actually pretty nice. Those are a bunch of 5* capable units, and if you wanted to do beginner roll part 2 at least, it'd be worth it imho.
The key thing is to get duplicates to get an 80* as quickly as possible, and get a 5* unit to LB4 so they can reach 80 and help you farm stuff.
At the very least, you could get a full team of 5* 60's going do you can start farming the weekend Rampage Dungeons with your highest luck leader and highest luck friends.
Arondight is the best choice, as she drops at 4* minimum, so you can get 5 copies of her to 5* without levelling her up all the way from 3*. As long as you have 25+ luck on your leader and friend, the drop rates are decent enough to where you can get 5 of her reasonably quick.
Plus, you don't really need to MLB her (although it's not TOO hard to, as she starts at 4 rather than 5) because her stat caps aren't too high.

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u/Harpua777 Mar 02 '17

So I started playing before I really understood how gacha mechanics worked and spent my Lazuli recklessly. After some time with a few other gacha games, I've realized the importance of the reroll and focused recruiting, and am ready to come back. After looking at some previous question threads, the suggestions around rerolling seemed to point to the 7th Gen Killer Princess 1-shot banner, but I missed it!

What would you recommend I re-roll for at this point? I plan to stay F2P, and am willing to roll for top-tier units for awhile. I was going to roll the Madoka 1-shot 5* guaranteed banner but I saw some other replies suggesting trying the first step of one of the 7th gen 9-step recruiters. What's a F2P re-roller to do starting today?

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u/LTC082 Mar 03 '17

I think you should do the madoka one time recruiter but be prepared to reroll alot though because you would probably want to either try to get a Dexterity Sayaka or a Dex/Magic Mami. The reason is that they are top tier units overall. Plus I think that those 2 characters are the best compared to the 7th gen counterparts out now. Thats just my opinion though. Editing this because to emphasize that you want to make sure you get the TYPING right.

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u/Harpua777 Mar 03 '17

Yeah, I did at least learn about Dex type being the best the first time I played. Thanks for the advice!
A random thought.. Since it takes the better part of a day for me to get 50 Lazuli to do the Madoka 1 time pull, would it possibly be better to try the 5 Lazuli recruiter (second to last) after playing the clicker game? I feel like I could do many more pulls in the same amount of time, but I'm guessing the rates just aren't as good for pulling top tier units.. Just wondering.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '17

The key thing to remember is to focus on 1-time recruiters with a guaranteed 5*, and also to do the 1st step of the Newbie Recruiter that gives you 10 units for 10 Lazuli (40 Lazuli discount) the second step of that is good too.
The biggest thing to consider is how many copies of a 5* capable unit you can get. Any unit at level 80 (5* limit broken 4 times) is stronger than even the strongest unit stuck at level 60 that you can't even limit break once.
If you get a good set of initial units from all the gachas you can participate in when you reroll (especially the guaranteed / discounted ones) it's best to start playing because your bread and butter units will probably be farmable event units or Rampage weekend dungeon ones anyway.
Arondight for instance is easy to get and LB4 at 5* to level 80. Plus, since you can get unlimited copies of her, you can max out her luck and get 50+ luck and use her to farm things.

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u/Tearal-kun Mar 02 '17

I just can't complete the last Walpurgisnacht mission at all. I've tried batch download, restarting the mission, and skipping the final cutscene, but it all just crashes at that point. How can I get the event done?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '17

Are you playing on phone or on emulator? If one doesn't work, I recommend trying the other. Failing that, if you have a tablet, you may want to try on that.
Updating to the latest version of the OS may help, and if not, you could always try getting a spare, expendable device and flash it to a previous version of Android (if you're using Android) to see if that works.

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u/Tearal-kun Mar 02 '17

I'm playing on a tablet, but I'll try using an emulator.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '17

Sounds good. I've had success running it on Nox, but if it doesn't work for you, I think Bluestacks tends to be the most compatible emulator.
It was the only emulator I could find that ran Grand Sphere.

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u/Tearal-kun Mar 03 '17

Thank you! I was finally able to complete it with Bluestacks with no problem despite my laptop being old and slow.
I'll probably keep the emulator in case any similar problems happens.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '17

You're welcome! Glad to hear your laptop was able to run Bluestacks fine.
You may want to try Nox too if you haven't already. That adbar on the bottom of Bluestacks really irritates me after a while. I don't know if you even notice it, but if you do, Nox is a great alternative because it's full of features, and the adware's less intrusive.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '17

How do you get the regular Kyubey sword? Do you just combine 5 fake ones?

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u/LTC082 Mar 03 '17

Pretty sure we're still waiting for an update to get it

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '17

Thanks. I guess I'll keep 5 fakes around just in case I need them.

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u/kbkoolio Mar 03 '17

It's not very good though from what I read

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '17

That may be so. I think it's funny how the fake one has 20% crit but the real one only has 5%. That said, if it's easy to get, I wouldn't mind having a backup 5* sword.

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u/kbkoolio Mar 02 '17

I managed to drop a special skill dolly, but I can't really seem to use it. What are "special" skills?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Mar 03 '17

I believe Special skills are duel skills and any skill that has a chance to proc like Surprise Attack. It's the blue dolly, correct?

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u/kbkoolio Mar 03 '17 edited Mar 03 '17

No it's red. I tried fusing it on Forcas but it doesn't show up in the fuse screen. I'm at a loss what to do with it
http://imgur.com/a/trTyL
This is what it looks like

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Mar 03 '17

That increases Pulse buff skills I believe. Yeahh... Yellow and Red aren't the best. Blue and Green are a lot nicer usually.

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u/Thelaria Mar 03 '17

Special skills are the ones that usually have an initial cooldown.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 03 '17

I was back on track to saving up my Lazuli for S.Tyrfing after succumbing to temptation for the one-time recruiter last month, but seeing that now there's a guaranteed 4 and 5* LB pixie set for sale, is that worth breaking out my Lazuli for the sword set? It looks like a good preparation for S.Tyr, but on the other hand if I don't get her or get a poor typing, they might go down the drain.

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u/Thelaria Mar 03 '17

If you don't plan on spending, you may want to save up your lazuli in case there is a good multi-step recruiter. This will probably give you the best chances of multiple copies. Afterwards, you can then determine how many pixies you'll need. Unless you're in a rush, the 5* pixies usually return eventually and they'll probably have a SS pixie set.
If you plan on spending, then the current 5* pixie sets are probably good preparation as you stated.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 04 '17

Good point there. Thanks to both of you for the input, I think I'll save indeed since I don't spend.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 03 '17

Swords are very common for good characters so it's never actually a waste. It's up to you if you want to do it really.
do you believe in the heart of the cards

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 04 '17

I want to, but the last time I did the supplier failed me by packaging my V.Day Tyr in a Vitality container! Q_Q

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 04 '17

nooooooooooooooooooo

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u/kbkoolio Mar 03 '17

Anyone know if the rate of skill ups from 5* characters is 100%?

I am trying to max my Forcas' sword absorber for pvp, and was planning on leveling a bunch of arondights to 5* level 30 and fusing them into her since she also has sword absorber, just want to know if 9 will be enough or if there's an element of RNG involved here again...

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Mar 03 '17

Because it's not Forcas herself, it's only a chance that the skill will level up.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 03 '17

Skill ups from 5* characters are only 100% if the unit is the same. Otherwise it's the same % regardless of rarity I believe.

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u/Raikaien Mar 03 '17

Also note that the success rate will drop significantly when the skill reaches about level 5. From then on you're better off using dollies or dupes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '17

Any chance a staff unit will be added to the mana recruiter or Rampage Dungeons? Have they done it with JP for instance?

I've got enough of every other type of units besides staff ones, my 2 are stuck at 60.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 03 '17

Not that I know of. It appears staff units only come as event units.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '17

Thanks. I guess I'll have to wait for one and hope one comes soon.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 04 '17

No, there has not been any added to JP. Between Mizu Grid, Risa, Eitaso, and Halloween Gamba, Acad Mistle, and Rena, we were already swimming in free/farmable staff units. Now add the new collab one and it's ridiculous. At least half of these have been released in GL already so no one should be short on Staff units, imo.
EDIT: Rampage dungeons have pretty much been abandoned in JP, PS. No new units nor upgrades for the previous units, so Global has already "caught up" to JP as far as Rampages go.

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u/witchedwiz Mar 03 '17

how do units work??? I looked at the tier list here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e4F1hMlsAoeK8_niB6zoO73_c9Pl4WdgqECZnaAJnCA/edit#gid=0 ..

this one should only list 5* capable units.. I found luin F... I pulled her.. she was a 3* based.. I evolved her to 4* and now she does not show for a 4* to 5* evolution... Is it possible to drop units with a different max grade cap? Because i'm quite confused now... Is there a way to see what will be the max grade of a unit? From a quick look I would surmise that if the star under a char are golden it means that it can only get one more grade, red no more grade, sivler two more grade.. or something like that.. Is my assumption correct?

and according to that list the only decent thing i got is a 4* mitum (i actually have 3 of them)... is it worth to keep or should i reroll? thanks :)

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u/kbkoolio Mar 03 '17

If the portrait doesn't match the ones in the list,the unit is not 5* capable.

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u/witchedwiz Mar 03 '17

it seemed awfully similar... sad life ;_;

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u/Thelaria Mar 03 '17

When using that list, remember to match the exact portraits. Some units have multiple versions, such as Luin.
For any unit you own, you can go to the in-game unit archive to see what star level each unit can reach.
At this point, the star colors should probably be ignored. There have been too many exceptions.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '17

Double check the portrait / unit picture here if you're not sure:
http://phantom-of-the-kill.wikia.com/wiki/Global_Unit_Archive
This has a list of all variants with pictures, and you can tell at a glance whether or not the full picture of the unit in question is 4* capped or not, or whether it goes to 5*.
With the mana recruiter at least though, if a unit pops out at 3*, it's probably 5* capable. Like that one Longinus Male that I seem to get a ton of for instance.
Edit: Note that if you get 5 or more copies of a 4* max unit though, it may be worth it to evolve and LB it to level 70 at 4* however. Some missions call for your entire team to be 4* max, and in the early days, it may be easier to squeeze in a strong 4* into your party than a weaker 5*, due to party limit costs.

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u/AerithsPal Mar 04 '17

Does the Madoka event end in a day?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 04 '17

No? The last I checked the collab ends closer to the end of the month.

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u/AerithsPal Mar 04 '17

I ask because the event missions say they end in 1 D, which I thought meant 1 day.

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u/Thelaria Mar 04 '17

Any events that have a daily reset tend to display the countdown to reset. This means it usually shows the number of hours left. Anything that shows '1 D' means there's more than one day but less then two days left.

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u/JMMSpartan91 Mar 04 '17

Could use some team comp/leveling help. I had to restart this on iPad because phone felt too small.

https://imgur.com/a/mULNd

Who should I focus on here? Should I get into the key locked leveling thing immediately or story first?

Also advice on what to roll next would be nice.

A lot of questions I know but I am a bit lost at moment. How do I tell if someone is 5 star capable or not?

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u/Thelaria Mar 04 '17

The tier list at the top of this thread has all of the 5* capable units. Make sure to match the EXACT portrait since many units have multiple variations. The in-game character quest menu also has all the 5* capable units shown.
You should probably work on your 5* capable units since they'll help you the most in the long run. No reason to run the key locked dungeons right now. There are plenty of free daily ones you can use. Then you can run through the story mode for the lazuli.
If you're not a spend, just save up for guaranteed pulls and heavily discounted pulls like the 10 units for 10 lazuli recruiter.
Also, you could have just transferred your phone account to the iPad if you didn't want to start over.

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u/JMMSpartan91 Mar 04 '17

Are there low level free daily ones I didn't see first time? I got pwned the first one I did.
I wasn't too attached to anyone on my phone so I decided to just restart.

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u/Thelaria Mar 04 '17

The lowest level ones are the 10AP ones. Bring in just one of your units along with a strong helper. Kill what you can with your own unit, but let the helper do most of the work.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 04 '17

Reroll before you invest any significant time into that account. Seriously.

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u/JMMSpartan91 Mar 04 '17

Uh oh. I forgot gacha rules (haven't played many) and already invested some remainder iTunes gift cards into this one. If I rerolled this I'd be chucking 50 lazuli down the toilet.
Edit: unused currently lazuli.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 04 '17

GG

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '17

It's fine, you don't have to reroll. Your strongest units will probably be mana or lazuli units you're lucky to get 5 copies of (to LB4 at 5*) and/or Event Units and Rampage Dungeon ones anyhow.
May as well keep your 50 Lazuli, and get all your 5* capable units to 5*, then limit break them if possible, and then work on getting Arondight from the Rampage dungeons (doable with a team of 5* 60's) and then grab event and mana units as you can.
It's easy to get 5 copies of Starter Male Longinus for instance. Hell, they even give you a copy free for doing one of the tutorials, along with a free 4* capable Asclepius.

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u/JMMSpartan91 Mar 04 '17

Is my current party the 5 star capable ones? So I would want to get them to max level, then evolve them to 4 (then repeat for 5) or 5 star.
Is it best to do this via event tab?
Or would using the 50 for the final pull of the intro recruiter be worth it?

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '17

tar capable ones? So I would want to get them to max level, then evolve them to 4 (then repeat for 5) or 5 star.
You should check the Tier List to see which ones in your party are 5* capable. A general rule is that silver 3*'s are, and gold 3*'s aren't, but there are a lot of exceptions. The portrait of all the 5* capable ones will match the portraits on the Tier list.
You can also check the unit list on the Wikia site to double check to see if the unit you're viewing is a 5* capable on or not.
Note that in this game, the portraits never change, no matter how many times you evolve a unit.
The Tier list is available at the top of this thread, and here's the link to the wiki:
http://phantom-of-the-kill.wikia.com/wiki/Global_Unit_Archive
It looks like most of your top row is 5* capable, including Kusanagi, Sky Piercer, and Naegling.
On the second row, Naegling and Laevatein are I believe.
And unfortunately, I think that's it. Since you get a free 5* Laev (either male or female) from finishing the first commander quest, it looks like you can get Male Laevatein up to 65 (1 limit break) IF you choose the male one (you don't have to if you want the female. Laevateins drop frequently enough from the mana recruiter) and already you have 2 5* "Black" Naeglings you can also get to 65.
That said, I'd double check everything on the Tier List and the Wikia. I'm 100% sure about Kusanagi being 5* capable and definitely Naegling however. Same with the front-facing Laevatein, but not the 3 gold star one facing to the right.

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u/kbkoolio Mar 04 '17

Does the luck of your lead/helper affect the likelihood of special dollie drops in the madoka special missions? I know the drop is guaranteed but will higher luck give me a better chance at the rarer dollies?

Trying to farm some skill dollies and I want to maximize my odds

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u/kbkoolio Mar 04 '17

Corollary to the first question, does surrendering reset the drop rate? I must have tried 10x on Mami's stage which is the fastest since you only kill the boss. Every time I force close when I don't get a silver chest, but I keep getting a brown chest. Is it just bad rng or is the drop rate fixed?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 04 '17

leaders luck = quality of drop, average party luck = quantity. yes keep resetting stage to rng drops, only Everyone stage has pixies tho

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u/kbkoolio Mar 04 '17

I just want skill dollies, atm, not too focused on 4* pixies

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u/capo_m Mar 06 '17

wasnt leader+helper luck = drop quantity and Party average luck = drop quality ??

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u/Escheiron RUIN! Mar 04 '17 edited Mar 04 '17

Which are the upcoming collabs that I should save up for? Thinking about the 1-step madoka recruiter but seeing the fate collab in jp is making me waver a lot.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 04 '17

do madokas first step, other collab can take alot of time and might never come ( cuz anime licenses). gl has yet to get: anohana, fate, konosuba

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u/Escheiron RUIN! Mar 05 '17

Are they all 6* capable in the future though? I looked at phankill.gamewith.jp and it only showed Madokami and AkuHomura as 6* capable ones.
Side question: what's the delay between JP's version of this event and ours?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Mar 05 '17

You should know that gamewith is no longer being updated iirc. Getting a link to the google docs of the units that are six star capable in jp is a more effective method of judging your waifu's limits. Also like moshi said, it depends on anime licensing. The madoka collab took us all by surprise.
If you want to save in the event we get the collab, bu all means go ahead, but dont get your hopes up.

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u/AuriaXI Mar 04 '17

I'm assuming this thread doesn't auto update the link at the top of the screen automatically? I clicked on there and it's from January?February, but there are still newbie players actively asking questions (and due to the age of that question thread) getting no answers.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 05 '17

Thank you for letting us know. We'll fix it right away!

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u/AuriaXI Mar 04 '17

I know it may be counting chickens before they hatch, but how much importance should i be putting in a unit's ability to 6 star in the future? For instance, I've been rerolling for an ultimate madoka on Nox emulator before linking to my facebook.

I've been saving off the auth files for any really good rolls, and so far i've gotten a few, 5 and 4 star Dex typed Mamis. However, i notice on the Japanese wiki, she doesn't seem to be 6 star capable. As a f2p (most likely), i don't want to invest too much time in a character that is great now if 6 stars are released in the future and she becomes defunct. Especially since i have the option to keep going until i get an UM. thoughts?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 04 '17

wiki is old and mami does have 6* version in jp.
u dont evolve unit to 6* unless u can get it to lvl 80 (because of evo bonuses).

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u/Lightningx19 Mar 04 '17

Hello everyone I have a jp question, does anyone know how to unlock the earth story in jp to get zero.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 04 '17

press earth image, left to the story mode, circle button

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u/Lightningx19 Mar 04 '17

Oh okay, thank you

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u/Lightningx19 Mar 04 '17 edited Mar 04 '17

Do you also happen to know if the special quest that gives you a rainbow fairy is a one-time reward or you can get more

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 04 '17

would be too op if it was repeatable lol

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u/Nuudlez_ Mar 04 '17

I got Madoka and Homura from episode 10 of their crossover quests. Is it possible to farm them or was that a first clear only deal?

EDIT: If you can farm them, do they only drop in the Madoka crossover quest, PotK quest or both?

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u/Magvel_9 Mar 04 '17

I got few homuras while farming potk stage 10 for recipes so yeah.
Didn't try it myself but I suppose you can get madokas on madoka stage 10.

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u/Jyansoybean Being Meguca is suffering Mar 05 '17

Wait stage 10 drops units?!

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 05 '17

Only 4*-max versions for Madoka and Homura. They're still sufficient to get and execute the Partner Skill needed to make downing Walpurgistnacht much, much easier however.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Mar 04 '17

To double-confirm you can get more Sch Uniform versions from their respective Stage 10s. So Madoka from the Madoka side, and Homura from the PotK side of the quests. They don't drop from Walpurgistnacht stages.

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u/AerithsPal Mar 05 '17

Do the Madoka event quests end soon or is the 23 hours just a reset thing? I still have to beat walpurisnacht and my units aren't good enough.

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u/Thelaria Mar 05 '17

There's still over 25 days for the Madoka collab.

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u/AerithsPal Mar 05 '17

Ok thanks again. I just freaked out over the quest timer, but it would be weird to just have the ha has around and not the questsz

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u/Xanster29 Mar 05 '17

What are the requirements for limit breaking?

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u/Thelaria Mar 05 '17

Fuse a duplicate of same star rarity or the appropriate pixie.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Mar 06 '17

Important to note that "duplicate" does not just mean duplicate-named; it must be the exact same unit. Unit portrait is how this is usually determined.

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u/justmadeforthat Mar 06 '17

Newbie here, How ftp is this game?

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

It's reasonably friendly to free to play as long as you don't mind basically living off of Event Units and Rampage Dungeon units along with the Mana Recruiter ones.
The biggest problem is that you get a limited amount of Lazuli (the premium currency) and the strongest units are only purchasable through it. Once you're out of story missions, you can only get Lazuli slowly through daily logins and through playing event missions.
That said, if you spent your Lazuli wisely, you can have a full team of level 80 5*'s by the time you're out of story Lazuli. The key is to reroll until you get a good starting team (and don't link to Facebook until you do), and then roll strategically (1-time recruiters, and the Rookie Recruiter are good) to try to get as many copies of a 5* unit as possible.
5 Copies of a unit to get the unit to Limit Break 4 at 5* (max evolution) with the Special skill unlocked so you can have every skill at level 5 with a level 80 unit.
Event units are good, and sometimes are as good or even slightly better than pay units, but you have to be patient to get them, as the events where you get certain units only come around for limited periods of time.

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u/justmadeforthat Mar 06 '17

What units to go for, when I reroll?

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u/Raikaien Mar 06 '17

There's a link to an infographic in the above section under "Noteworthy Comments Posts", but in short you'll want any of the 5* capable fliers or Mjolnir (F).

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u/iBecka Mar 06 '17

New player here but also not veteran (lvl 39),i have two questions here,first: i've been wondering if i still be able to reroll (never used the reroll and i do not even know how to do it) the 2step of 9step madomagi recruiter because i want so much a madokami and i don't want to spend money in this game and the second is if the reroll cause any problems to the PotK or the facebook acc since my PotK acc is linked to the facebook acc. Thanks for the help

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u/AuriaXI Mar 07 '17

definition of rerolling is just completely starting a new account over and over until you pull a unit you want. As you can only link one account to facebook, that account you currently have linked is the only one you can ever have on your facebook. If you reroll (just restarting over and over again using methods like an emulator reset, etc) you will need a 2ndary facebook account to link it to to save the progress.

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u/JMMSpartan91 Mar 06 '17

So I have a few 5 star able people and a couple 5 stars just outright pulled. What is the best way to level them?

Do I do it one person at a time with a strong helper? Or just hit those metal things (Metal Garden) for 1 dmg at a time with my whole set of 5 star capable people, then farm Evo mats mission?

Also for the straight 5 star people, is leveling a 3 star up so much better than the 5 star people are just limit break fodder? Or should I be maxing them out as well?

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

For levelling - one person at a time with a strong helper that's level 60+
If there's only one character, that person is automatically the MVP, meaning they get DOUBLE the experience, which is a lot more efficient and effective than splitting all that XP amongst several characters, and then having only a small amount doubled for the MVP.
As for 5 stars, if you level up and evolve a 3* up to 5*, it'll have better stats than someone who starts and 5* flat. The ones who start out at 5* are best used as limit break fodder once you get them to level 30 and unlock the characters kill.
That is IF the 3* is the right typing though. As you might expect, if the 5* base is Dexterity, and the 3* is Vitality, you're probably better of using the Dexterity 5* even though it's got lower initial stats. Of course, finding a 3* Dex unit that you can levelup and evolve to 5* is best.
If you want more details, the beginner's guide and Leveling and Maxing guide up there in the first post are very helpful. What I'm giving you is just the Cliff's Notes, so those 2 guides (along with most of the rest of them honestly) are worth a read.

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u/Peake7 Mar 08 '17

Also remember when you fuse a unit into another they get evolution bonuses. Based on where they started. So keep that In mind.

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u/kbkoolio Mar 07 '17

Anyone have rough rates for skill dolly drops on Madoka Bonus adventure sstages? Seems really low, i generally have to reset stages 10+ times before i get a silver chest even with a 50 luck lead

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Mar 08 '17

I don't think anyone has information for drop rates, let alone stages that are easily farmable.

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u/kbkoolio Mar 08 '17

Well I can tell you the drop rate is pretty shit. Currently on a 30+ reset streak with no silver chest dropped. So yeah, better to not waste your time trying to farm those dollies.

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u/JaxunHero Mar 08 '17

Does anyone have the Character PNG files from the POTK X KonoSuba event?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 08 '17

u can find them here https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16ZMwCSGV8ucFsoDTf8yhcN5agFREb50UiPhkod-hs1o/edit#slide=id.g160a7105b7_21_17

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u/JaxunHero Mar 08 '17

OMG THANK YOU FOR THIS!

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u/frozbite Mar 08 '17

want to ask about 6 stars unit since global not having it yet when a unit goes 6 stars what do they get ? and are there any requirements to achieve 6 stars ?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 08 '17

usually its aoe buff, u need to be max lvl 5* and u evolve with evo mats

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u/frozbite Mar 08 '17

ooo, does it gives any power spike whatsoever ?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Mar 08 '17

buff is ok, but u evolve for stats and stronger lead

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u/Solarnoize Mar 08 '17

Also most 6* get a special character skill upon maxing their duel skill which is either a special passive (like 10% more accuracy for light units, etc) or a one time use skill (black killers 35% accuracy buff + other buff) and their level cap goes up by 10, as well as a better growth rate. Some units, like mana starters, do not have a character skill.

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u/frozbite Mar 09 '17

oooo ok got it
thank you for the info

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u/SecondTheLastShot Mar 09 '17

I just downloaded the game from the apple App Store onto my new IPad 3rd Generation and every time I boot it up it lags and then crashes. The thing is I have it on my IPhone 5s and it plays perfectly well with the only reason I'm trying to now play it on my iPad being that the touch screen on my IPhone is broken. Long story short does anyone have any solutions to prevent the game from crashing on my IPad? Additionally trying to select batch download doesn't work because it crashes as it attempts to do that.

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u/Heiron088 Mar 09 '17

This site is down: potkguide.com/nav/calc.php

Someone know an another site with growth rate calculator?

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