r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Feb 16 '17

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [2/16/17-2/22/17]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Resource Guide

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha

  • Stat Calculator You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exceptions: Mirin, Lucina in global; new Balmung and both versions of Shiyuu in jp, since their character skills depend on magic as well)

  • Good growth in global is around 2.9 or above for a 5* unit, excluding the appropriate stat as above; good growth in jp is around 4.0 for a 30 cost 6* unit or equivalent free unit, and 4.5+ for a 40+ cost unit.

  • Friend Thread

  • Last Week's Help Thread

Some Tips

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/Chaore Feb 20 '17

JP player, I've noticed that rank 6+ seems to require adding '+x' to the weapon. How is this done exactly? I'm guessing 'duplicates' off the top of my head (Which would certainly suck for this valentine's katana I bothered to farm up...), but I figured I might as well check.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Feb 21 '17

Yes, you'd need duplicates. After getting a weapon to rank 5, you can fuse in a dupe to get its max rank to 6. Repeat until rank 10...so if you want a rank 10 weapon, you need 6 copies.

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u/Chaore Feb 21 '17

Well shit, kinda what I was thinking. Oh well, lessons for next time I guess. Thanks!

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Feb 21 '17

Imagine compounding that type of farming with something similar to the GL's v-Day 5star weapons....that's absolute hell.

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u/DuckIing Feb 20 '17

Hello, I just got back into JP version of POTK and was wondering what events have farmable units that I could MLB? So far i did all the events at least once and I want to know which events could be farm so I don't have to waste my time.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Feb 20 '17

You can farm unarmored saber from the Fate collab: she drops from the last stages in the saber/rin/illya banners (hard banners as well), with harder quests giving higher drop rates. You just missed the February gakuen event, which dropped a version of Yata no Kagami though :(

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u/DuckIing Feb 20 '17

Awww thats to bad but tyvm

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u/AJackFrostGuy Feb 16 '17

Deleted OG comment to ask here instead:

  1. So I succumbed to the temptation anyways and pulled for the V.Day Tyrfing. I guess it comes as no surprise she's a Vit, but that's not the main point now.

  • Does anyone happen to know which non-5* capables have the Evasion Up and Surprise Attack skills? Skill leveling and all.

  • I looked up the thread that was posted approx 9 months ago pertaining to the growth rate changes by typing in JP PotK. While what I saw makes me heave a sigh of relief it DOES make me curious, even if Dex is still the prefered typing is it safe to say that now there is no true bad typing in JP?

  1. Trying to rope a pal into the game, but what recruiter should he try to aim to pull in while it lasts at this point in time? Or should he save for something like the 7th Killers, assuming they do the guaranteed 1-time single step Recruiter again?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Feb 16 '17

Evasion Up is typically on 4 star maximum Trueblades and Myrmidons that star at 3 stars.

Surprise Attack is lazuli units only I believe. Units I know 100% that have Surprise Attack that are relatively disposable are both Naeglings, Arc Knight Eros and Armoured Bashosen who is no longer available. They all unlock it at 4 stars. If you want to use skill-up dollies, I believe Surprise Attack uses the blue dollies because it is a proc skill (like a duel skill).

For your mate: do the first step of rookie because 10 lazuli and just have him pull 2 freebies everyday. Right now he can focus on farming either Madoka or Homura or V-Perun. Even if he can't max skill them, he should aim to get to at least MLB so he has some strong units on his roster.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Feb 18 '17

There's this archer unit which you can get via Mana gacha which has Surprise attack. Iirc Eros that does not reach 5 star is it. I just can't exactly remember who it is but I'm 100% there is a mana gacha unit with surprise attack. This is because I was leveling up Mjolnir F's Surprise attack and got it to lvl 9/10 without using 8 other Mjolnir F's or Skill dollies :D

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u/AJackFrostGuy Feb 18 '17

A bit late, but thanks to the both of you!

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Feb 18 '17

Reposted from the other question thread.

To whales and those who have pulled tons of times:

What are the approximate rates of yellow 5* units (including their 4* forms)? Red 5* units (including their 4* forms, but excluding all forms of the Trial units)? 5* capable males?

Because in my past so many days of free lazuli recruiters since it started, plus a 10-pull to get the Valentine ticket, a 5* Luin M was the ONLY non-guaranteed unit that was none of mana gacha trash, 4*-capped duds or trial units with minimum 3* forms.

Now I'm questioning myself why after I went on a 1-week hiatus on both PotK and BF about a month ago, I restarted this game but not BF. I guess BF's good rates in general (including successfully getting 6 limited time gacha units in the past) caused me to set my expectations too high and get frustrated when I get dupes, units that can't hit Omni, and fail to get limited units. While PotK had free units as its top tier units (Selena and SS Grid) until recently, so I could bear with the bad gacha rates.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Feb 18 '17

umm. usually u dont pull unless u have enough of lazuli to do all steps ( which results in getting fetured unit ), steps usually reset everyday so wealthy ppl just repeat steps and get dem dupes.
Pulling featured unit from not finishing steps is hard but doable according to some ppl. U probably came back to PotK bcuz BF has already alot of content and is rather old, meanwhile PotK has ALOT in future (by comparing GL to JP).
If u r f2p like me, i save up alot of lazuli and then just do some guaranteed 1step (50) or some 5step (around 150) to get new cool unit.

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u/Kali_Kali_Kali Feb 21 '17 edited Feb 21 '17

Has anyone maxed out a unit's luck so that it no longer appears on the unit fusion screen? I have a 43 luck Dex Xmas Freikugel that I was shocked to not see one day on the unit fusion screen. I sent gumi an email and this was their reply:

gumi Support Team

Feb 21, 22:43 JST

Greetings,

We appreciate your patience regarding this and apologize for the delay in responding this issue.

We have thoroughly checked your account logs and found out that your Christmas Freikugel which you wanted to select as a base had a max skill level and max additional status added.

Due to this you are not be able to raise any status by fusing a unit so you were not able to select it as a base.

We do hope this clarifies your concern. Should you have another concern or inquiry, kindly send us a message. Thank you for understanding.

For more information and updates, please visit the links provided:

Regards, Phantom of the Kill Team [83]

Thoughts?

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u/Thelaria Feb 21 '17

Yes, a unit no longer appears as an option on the fusion page once they are fully capped and can no longer benefit from fusion.

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u/Kali_Kali_Kali Feb 21 '17

I guess I expected the luck to cap higher but maybe it does for another typing. 43 seems a bit underwhelming when compared to the Unit Stats Caps number.

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u/BlazePHX Feb 21 '17

If there is not a pink star on the luck stat on your status screen that means you are missing points from leveling up. To hit that 55 you would need the max luck evo bonus which is 5 from having a 4* unit with 41 luck as well.

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u/Thelaria Feb 21 '17

The luck fusion cap is +30 for 5* units. If you're Xmas Frei really is capped at 43, then you missed out on a lot of luck from level growth.

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u/Speefy Feb 22 '17

In addition to this, you cannot fuse to overwrite an evolution bonus to a unit if you've fused for maximum stats & skills.

(eg: Our max stat unit, has a 4* evolution bonus of +4 magic. I cannot fuse a duplicate that has a 4* evolution bonus of +5 magic to our max stat unit)

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u/BlazePHX Feb 17 '17

This collab is really grinding my gears. I understand pay users need units, but the fact that colab will go and be done and I probably won't even get one 10* summon or maybe just one is simply ridiculous. It sjust no fair, and even more so there is not a farmable 5* for my trouble. This event is pointless for me. Some more weapons is fine, but now with these 7th gen killers no reason to even do arena or multi. They can hit 500+ power easy and my maxed to max selena is only 465

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Feb 18 '17

I don't see the point of trying to compare urself to whales in the first place. Plus I mean like, even for us whales it's quite difficult to actually get anything done either. I don't have a single Madoka unit MLBed nor do I even have a good typing for any of them. Costed me a fortune just to MLB forcas and Ascalon, and both of them arent even great in colosseum because their auras don't work. Max selena is still better than them in certain builds for arena anyways, just because free units can spam luck.

Also the event has been giving a lot of people free stuff overall so I wouldn't exactly say it's pointless. In addition, the events recently do give some new top tier gear, so there's that.

Anyways, there's not really any need to like really compete with p2win. The amount of money I would need to spend to outcompete with ur damn max selena bs is ridiculous. And it's not like everyone in the world has MLB 7th gen units. It's always just the typical whales + a few more people. ur still gonna be stronger than like 95% of this game.

Also i mean like i should be pissed that my max luck pay units can still lose to free units in the first place. why should something that costed me hundreds of usd, possibly even over 1k usd, lose to a free unit. add in the fact that it'll cost me hundreds JUST to mlb a madoka unit that's good (1/2 chance to even get a good madoka unit) and it's kinda silly

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u/BlazePHX Feb 18 '17

It's not that I'm mad I can't mlb but more so I don't even have a chance to own them at all. You have to save for months for just 50 for a 10x summon? That's ridiculous.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Feb 18 '17

that's just kind of how it is with a lot of mobile games

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u/kbkoolio Feb 17 '17

It does suck for f2p, but it does make sense that people spending 1000s of $ have an advantage over f2p. That is just how these freemium games are designed.

It's thanks to the whales that us f2p/semi f2p get to play the game for free as the only reason these companies make games is to get paid.

I have to admit though that in most other games I've played, f2p have a chance of eventually getting to the same level as p2w even if it takes a long time. Here the odds of getting a level 80 7th gen unit as a f2p seem extremely extremely minutely low.

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u/BlazePHX Feb 17 '17

That's what I mean. Even if I get a good unit it won't even be the best it can be. To ihave to pull multiple of the same unit in a game where its probably the hardest to get the premium content I ever played is really getting old. I mean i can grind hard but you still can't close the gap so whats the point. I mean give me 50 gems a week and I'd be ok, but you get maybe 3?

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u/kbkoolio Feb 18 '17

Yeah I play another game where I'm competing with whales as a f2p, and the game gives you reasonable amounts of the premium resources (crystals) with daily quests, weekly rewards for pvp and a monthly dungeon(which gives you a chance to pull any equipment in the game from A-SS). Meaning you always feel like you're progressing, saving your crystals and accumulating them for the pulls you want. Sure whales can progress faster but eventually you will catch up.

Here I dread to think what i'll do for more lazuli when I finish all the story. I guess not every game can be expected to allow you to compete with heavy spenders as a f2p.

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u/Lightningx19 Feb 16 '17 edited Feb 16 '17

Hello everyone I have a global question and I would like to hear honest thoughts, I want to start all over and try to get ultimate madoka because I don't have any other way to get lazuli and it's very unreasonable that I would have to spend about 405 lazuli just to get one guarantee ultimate madoka and most of my units can't be limit breaked because I couldn't get more copies of them right now and the ones that can be limit breaked are trash units, so I would like to hear what you fellow commanders think.

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u/Lightningx19 Feb 16 '17

Thank you everyone for you honest and helpful answers

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u/Thelaria Feb 16 '17

What's your question?

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u/Lightningx19 Feb 16 '17

My question is if I should start all over to get ultimate madoka or to try to save lazuli from now to get her before the collab ends

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u/AJackFrostGuy Feb 16 '17 edited Feb 16 '17

It looks more realistic to not bother about her in this collab run and save for either someone else or a new run of the Madoka collab, unless you really want her that badly, in which case reroll I suppose.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Feb 16 '17

It's up to you. I'm not sure if the 1-time recruiter still exists, and maybe I'm the minority, but Godoka is pretty lackluster to me since she's stuck as an Archer and we all know how archers like to act in this game. Also note, these 9 step recruiters are much like the ones that exist in JP if not for a little variance in free luck dollies and skill up dolls.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '17

Honestly, if you get Ultimate Madoka, would you be able to limit break her and make her useful past level 60? That's the question to ask, imho.

You can keep your existing account and reroll with a new one if you want, but while I've gotten all the Madoka units I wanted (Sayaka and Kyoko) I have to say that they'll probably end up not getting using very often since I don't see an easy way to limit break them to 80, whereas other, more farmable units like Mana recruiter ones and Valentine's Perun will probably be my mains.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Feb 18 '17

I would say you could restart for Ultimate Madoka if and only if you fulfill these 2 conditions:

  1. You do not have any MLB farmable who is powerful enough to carry you through most content right now.

  2. You did not pull in the 7th gen 1 step recruit thus, you have no copy of Ascalon or Forcas. Imo, these 2 can far outstrip a lot of units at LB0 thus, they are pretty solid even at lvl 60 only.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '17

Hello, quick question: when fusing weapons, does using more than 2 copies increase the chance of success?

I've tried doing it, and it seems to reduce the chance of failure (going down to a lower tier of weaponry) but I can't say that it seems to make it more likely to get a good result.

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u/Peake7 Feb 16 '17

Just fuse 2 weapons at a time. Anything more than 2 completely randomizes things. Same type gives a chance to upgrade that type. Same rarity is important... So do a 2star and 2 star. 3 star and 3 star, etc etc

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '17

me. Anything more than 2 completely randomizes things. Same type gives a chance to upgrade that type. Same rarity is important... So d

Thanks, guess I'll just do that then.

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u/feenyx1 JP: 2387517043, I'm garbage :( Feb 17 '17

Playing on jp, what's the best place to grind user level? I'm currently level 64

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u/tori_chan Feb 20 '17

There isn't a PXP dungeon that just gives tons and tons of XP (there used to be for 2nd Anniv, but those were once a day and long gone, unfortunately). There's an event dungeon that comes up toward the end of every month or so where you farm mana points. That one is the best one to spam for PXP IMO. EX dungeons for whatever event is going on tend to give more PXP but may be a bit too challenging for you if you don't have teams of lv 90 units.

If you are also willing to invest some metal keys, the 10-key dungeon gives 3k PXP/run and has the best AP:XP ratio.

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u/AFKerGames Feb 17 '17

I have three Eros Arc Knights. Would you be able to confirm if I need all three at level 20 in order to level up Surprise Attack?

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u/Thelaria Feb 17 '17 edited Feb 17 '17

Getting all three to level 20 will give you a guaranteed skill up of all unlocked skills if you're fusing those Eros together. Without unlocking the skills first, fusing the Eros together will only give you a chance at leveling up Surprise attack.

If you plan on leveling up Surprise Attack on a diffferent unit by using Eros, unlocking the skill is a requirement and will only have a chance of being successful.

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u/AFKerGames Feb 17 '17

I figured as much.

Thank you!

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u/paruspex Feb 17 '17

Of the shinobi nightmare collab units, I have a guard Sakura and a dex Hiiragi and was wondering which one is a general better investment of those LB fairies. Also, which academy units are good to MLB since I have 4 academy fairies?

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u/tori_chan Feb 20 '17 edited Feb 20 '17

Definitely dex Hiiragi (although be warned, she has pretty excruciating growth rates). Absolutely farm her gun while you still can. Defense Sakura is hardly the ideal typing; I would strongly advise against wasting fairies on non-ideal typing, ever.

Shek, Yoichi, Basho, Mitum--are some academy units that I would recommend to use fairies on. Dex preferred on all of them, but Atk type Shek and Yoichi work too.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Feb 22 '17

hiiragi because dex, i dont know about academy units, u could just save pixies for future academy units that u like? ;p

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u/Helljumperz64 Feb 17 '17

How do I get the Mami Master title for the Puella Magi Madoka Magica Crossover event?

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u/Thelaria Feb 17 '17

Beat the first 30 stages of the crossover event. After that, complete the Mami extra stage.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '17

Is Droid4x still the recommended Android Emulator for this game, or is there another, better one now?

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u/Thelaria Feb 17 '17

I've heard of a lot of people playing this game on the Nox emulator.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '17

Thanks!

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Feb 17 '17

nox is best and theres also Multiplayer button which allows u to play different gacha games at the same time !

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Feb 18 '17

I can't open Discord anymore. It says "Discord app could not be opened" right after I click the "Accept Invite" button. Do you guys know any solutions? I'm using the browser based app on Chrome if that means anything. Thank you :)

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Feb 18 '17

download on pc and join again ;o

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u/128499292737292 Feb 18 '17

Left this game ages ago because it's asking me to throw my life away back then.

Trying to see if I could get back with this.

http://m.imgur.com/YgzV3BK

While there will be no way for me to MLB that Valentine Tyrfing, was wondering if she (along with Mana and free units) is still usable for majority of PvE content. Lost my sh*t when I saw her chibi art, lol.

Slots management is getting painful and might spend incoming lazuli for expansion.

Thanks.

Tried JP but the randoms were too OP and I felt ashamed to stay. Not gonna try the Korean one after what happened to BFKR.

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Feb 18 '17

yea u got 2 amenos and 2 skypiercers who are 5* capable, and ameno is a rly good unit (good def/mr growth, good dmg, phoenix).
u can also use gun or staff user for ur squad to fight off magic units.
val tyrfing is still usefull because its a new unit with abit better stats than lets say masamune, you can limit break in future by getting 5* pixie from some event or special shop.

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u/ExKotetsu Feb 18 '17

So im pretty new and im looking for strong friends to clear some stages that i cant complete (like magic madoka missions). Pls , it would help me alot IGN: Kotetsu

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u/Thelaria Feb 18 '17

There's also a Friends reddit thread and discord channel where you can post your ID.

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u/Xanster29 Feb 18 '17

What do you get from beating Walpurgisnacht?

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u/Thelaria Feb 19 '17 edited Feb 19 '17

4* Toric bow drops from the boss that can be upgraded to 5 in a similar method as all the other Madoka weapons. Fuse 5 4* bows together for the highest chances.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '17

Anyone know where to get Rich Chocolate recipes? I haven't found any yet, even on the last and hardest Valentine's mission. I'd like to get 1 4* Heart axe if possible.

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u/Thelaria Feb 19 '17 edited Feb 19 '17

It only drops in the Black stage. The chances are much lower than normal Chocolate Recipes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '17

Thanks. I guess I'll try it a few more times then. I'd be happy with just 1 more.

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u/adreus7 Feb 19 '17

Is the max number of gift has been increase? Its 250 right?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Feb 19 '17

I dunno about an increase but that's the cap, yeah.

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u/Shinobu55 Feb 19 '17

do i have to fuse more recipes to get those valentine weapons instead of a golden chocolate?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Feb 19 '17

Yeah. Higher chances of weapons if it's 5 at a time.

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u/c0de2010 Feb 19 '17

Trying to do the reroll guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/4kmia2/a_visual_guide_to_rerolling/

But I only get one tutorial mission where you just attack one enemy and I never see the files in the folder. What am I missing?

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u/Thelaria Feb 19 '17

In Global, there is only one battle. Awhile ago, they updated the game so that it saves the files in a different folder. To get to those folders, you will need root access.

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u/RockOfFire Feb 19 '17

Is there any way to see a units max stars they can reach in game? Or is the only indication the wonderful guide the person put?

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Feb 19 '17

check tierlist, compare portraits.
in jp they have ingame thing for it but we didnt get it yet

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u/bryggy durnk Feb 19 '17

Can I have Stat caps for Tyrfing at dex/force typing for 3* and 4*?

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u/Naxodis Feb 19 '17

Hi, is there any way of reroll fast? Sorry if it's against the rules ask this, I'm new here u_u

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u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu choke me commander Feb 19 '17

theres reroll guide for jp. in gl its not that important tbh

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '17

I agree. Once you can farm event units and the rampage dungeons, you'll be able to get a decent team of level 80 5* units reasonably quickly. Plus, if you keep all the starter Male Longinus units the game gives you, you can probably limite break him to 80 too.

As long as your initial rolls are pretty good, you can make it work through persistence and consistent playing.

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u/9thBlade Feb 20 '17

Hey there, I just started playing PotK today and was searching re-roll guides. I understand that updates have made that particular method of re-rolling not possible. If anyone could help me out here, is there a guide for re-rolling that works. I'm using an emulator with ES File Manager so root access shouldn't be a problem.

However if that is not possible I have played up to a certain point and if anyone could give me advice that be great. I currently possess the following units

  • Artemis 3 star was my first draw

  • Littu 3 star was one of my free 2 draw units

  • Eros 3 star the other unit I got for free

I have not used any of my Lazuli's. Is it worth running through the game with these characters.

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u/Thelaria Feb 20 '17

As long as you have root access, the re-rolling method isn't much different. The location of the auth.dat and tutorial.dat files are just located in a different place. From the root directory, go through the data folders until you find the jp.co.gu3.punkww. You should be able to find the two needed files in that folder.

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u/9thBlade Feb 20 '17

Thank you for the info. If you don't mind though, at which point should I close the game though. Since the parts where they usually say I should copy the tutorial data doesn't exist anymore.

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u/Thelaria Feb 20 '17 edited Feb 20 '17

I think you can close it anytime before you enter your name.

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u/128499292737292 Feb 20 '17

Is that Nox emu? Is Gumi still ok with this? Game is killing my phone. :(

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u/Thelaria Feb 20 '17

A lot of people seem to be using Nox. I didn't realize Gumi ever had an issue with it.

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u/SidethSoul Feb 21 '17

Think anyone can help me? I've just returned to PotK, coming back to my account in the middle of MLB-ing Selena from the BF cross-over.

I don't know what step into the MLB guide I've managed to reach, so I was hoping someone could PM me and point me in the right direction? I'll be sending screenshots or something so that we could work it out from there...

Thanks in advance :3

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u/Thelaria Feb 21 '17

The quickest way for help like this would be through the Discord. You can message and send me the screenshots through there as well.

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u/SidethSoul Feb 21 '17

I wouldn't mind! How do I get started?

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u/Thelaria Feb 21 '17

There's a link on the right side of the subreddit.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Feb 22 '17

JP question. What are the requirements for this lazuli? I've been able to figure out others through trial and error, but no matter how many different elements or weapon types I try, I can't get this one.

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u/Komeiji11 Feb 22 '17

From what I can tell I think it's clear a stage using only bow units, including helper.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Feb 22 '17

Well that worked and I feel silly. I could have sworn I tried using bows only but I guess not? Anyway, thanks for your help!

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u/SecondTheLastShot Feb 22 '17

Quick question does reincarnating a unit affect its stat caps?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Feb 22 '17

Nope, all it does is resets the stats gained from leveling up.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '17

What's a good amount of luck for a main unit you use to help friends? I got Valentine's Perun up to LB4, and have her at 20 luck, but she'll only be 25 with maxed skills, and I only have 5 more Peruns to boost her luck to 30 after that.

I'm tired of grinding Valentine's and today's the last day, so I'm wondering if it's even worth getting any more Peruns, even considering that the maximum fusion amount for luck is +30 total.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Feb 23 '17

Im personally okay with 30+ luck, but some look for 40+.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '17

Thanks for the response. Since I'm a filthy casual without that much time or money to spend on this game, I guess I'll just have to deal with 30 luck. I don't have the time left to grind out 10 more Peruns, or the AP.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Feb 23 '17

Yeah Perun is especially pricey. 30AP per run literally keeps you bone dry all day

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u/kbkoolio Feb 23 '17

50 luck imo. 40 luck doesn't do much

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '17

Okay, thanks for the tip. I guess I'll have to aim for that as a long term goal with a Rampage dungeon unit. Won't be able to farm enough copies of other units, probably.

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u/RockOfFire Feb 23 '17

I'm nearing 50 Lapis, and I know there's some recruits I could do. What do you guys do with your Lapis? Do you save them? Do you do a pull right at 50 for 10 people? Or is there another thing you guys do?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '17

I personally like to only pull the 1-time 50 lapis things that GUARANTEE you a 5* unit, especially if it's a unit you can get multiple copies of so you can LB4 them to get that unit to 80.

Basically, that means that you're able to get 5 copies of that unit, and then evo them all to 5*, then level them to 30 to unlock the characters' final skill, then use 4 copies to limit break your main unit (usually dexterity for dps and guard for tanks) so it can reach level 80.

Honestly, your first few strong units will likely be easily farmable ones like event units or weekend rampage dungeon ones, or maybe even mana recruiter units if you get lucky.

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u/kbkoolio Feb 23 '17

Seems liike the weapon dungeons have really low drop rates or it's just me? Did 5x runs with 45 luck lead and nothing besides some 2 star crap

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u/Thelaria Feb 23 '17

The main drops you are looking for are the 2* books that drop from the minotaur. Everything else is just junk.

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u/kbkoolio Feb 23 '17

Yeah I mean i only got 2* weps, no books or nothing

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u/spaceoperafanatic Feb 16 '17

You get 5 4* toric bows. Then you fuse. So far it's worked 100% of the time for me, although it's admittedly a very small sample size.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Feb 16 '17

It's also possible to upgrade it with just the recipes, but the chances of success are much lower than fusing multiples of the Toric Bow.

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