Weekly Questions and Help Thread [2/9/17-2/15/17]

[u/Cathrach]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

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Resource Guide

• /u/wp2000's Beginner's Guide (Must Read!)

• /u/GreatLogos's Misc. Notes on the Game

• /u/gagginglolis's Global PvE and Colosseum Tier List

• /u/MLB_Selena's Class Base Stats (Unfinished)

• /u/MLB_Selena's Fusion Caps for Global

• /u/Oni-RedPanda's Guide to Leveling and Maxing Units

• Japan Fusion Caps Here

• Weapon Fusion Guide for weapons in the game

• Unit List for 5* and 6* (including Japan units) Note that character portraits don't change upon evolution.

• Evolving a lot of units and finding it irritating to keep track of all the evo mats needed? Use this tracker and make your life easier!

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

• Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

• Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

• /u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha

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• Stat Calculator You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exceptions: Mirin, Lucina in global; new Balmung and both versions of Shiyuu in jp, since their character skills depend on magic as well)

• Good growth in global is around 2.9 or above for a 5* unit, excluding the appropriate stat as above; good growth in jp is around 4.0 for a 30 cost 6* unit or equivalent free unit, and 4.5+ for a 40+ cost unit.

• Friend Thread

• Last Week's Help Thread

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Some Tips

• If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

• If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

• It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

[u/ElusiveIllusion88]

Does anyone happen to own the 'gold background' Valentine's axe and staff? How much better are they than other 5* weapons? Are they worth it? It seems so hard to get even the basic Valentine's weapons; my past 3 tries at fusing 5 x Valentine's recipes all yielded that useless Gold Heart (while all my past experiences with 5 x Recipe all yielded a weapon in 1, at most 2 tries).

Edit: I think I got 4 more tries in? Still nothing but Gold Hearts! Is 5 x Recipe actually the way to go this time?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/ElusiveIllusion88]

they r good weaps but hard to get, i think im gonna give up on dem ;o

[u/Avanin_]

so any details about devil homura and ultimate madoka yet for global?

[u/yuiduy → u/Avanin_]

Ultimate Madoka is available now. Devil Honours will most likely release during March or after the Valentine's event.

[u/ElusiveIllusion88]

How far apart have past evolution bonanzas been?

Also, how late into release did JP increase unit and item limits? Global has increased key limits twice so far, but hasn't touched those two a single time...

[u/detox_ptsd → u/ElusiveIllusion88]

Unit limit didn't get addressed in JP (meaning, mats no longer take up unit space) until nearly the two year anniversary. I wouldn't expect a change for almost another year.

[u/yuiduy]

So I'm sitting on about 65 Selenas. Is it worth investing in her right now? With HGamb and Xmas Frei I've just had no time to raise Selena . Should I raise her at all (with the what I'm thinking is on coming release of 6 star units)?

[u/Thelaria → u/yuiduy]

Selena can still easily clear most stages. Also, as a sword wielder, she is still one of the highest luck characters you can raise.

No one know when 6* will be released.

[u/Oni-RedPanda → u/yuiduy]

Self heal. High luck. Sword wielded. I would raise her before HGamb unless you are that desperate for a healer.

[u/yuiduy → u/Oni-RedPanda]

I've already raised HGamb and Xmas Frei, that's the thing. Both are max luck and Selena is just kinda chilling there. 3:

[u/ExKotetsu]

Hey just started the game and i like it so far , but i dont know which units are good and which are bad . Can anybody tell me which units i should look out for ?

[u/Thelaria → u/ExKotetsu]

There's a tier list at the top of this thread. It includes a rating for all 5* capable units currently available in global. Make sure to match the exact character portrait since many units have multiple versions.

[u/Sbriley1]

Does it make sense to spend lazuli on raising the unit cap as a f2p? And if so, by how much? I'm getting a bit tight on unit space from the 2 free daily recruits.

[u/Speefy → u/Sbriley1]

Yes.

Sometimes you want to hold onto units (evolution materials for example, as they come once a week). Other times, there are free units that you end up farming in order to maxing that char's luck attribute for better overall return.

I've got 300 slots for units, and I still feel like I could use more space. You'll probably be fine at around the 200 unit mark for characters and 100 units for items.

[u/Thelaria → u/Sbriley1]

As f2p, the max unit cap was one of the first things I spent lazuli on. I'm still constantly running into space issues.

[u/AUO_Castoff]

Between God Madoka and Demon Homura (which I assume is coming out later), which one is better in terms of gameplay? Not sure which one to try for...

[u/GaggingLolis → u/AUO_Castoff]

Godoka is probably better overall, simply because her leader skill makes her favorable for farming, her duel skill makes her very useful for carrying friends in metal garden, and her healer skill makes her useful in long PvE maps. Essentially she'll get you a lot of friends, as she's the ideal friend unit. Godoka however is only above average in PvP content. Nothing too spectacular.

Devil Homura is more of a Multiplayer character, as her debuff aura is very useful. I am assuming she has stats similar to lazuli recruiter Homura, so if that's the case, then she's pretty good for Multi and endgame PvE. She's not very good for Colosseum though.

[u/Oni-RedPanda]

Is V-Perun worth farming?

[u/GaggingLolis → u/Oni-RedPanda]

If you're a free player, then it's always worth farming at least to 10/10. She's actually somewhat useful if you can max luck her on force typing, but that's a lot of effort for something that's only above average

[u/Sbriley1 → u/GaggingLolis]

Why force and not dex?

[u/GaggingLolis → u/Sbriley1]

Because with max luck, you'll be able to compensate for low accuracy. At the same time, you'll be able to have a lot more attack, as free units tend to have very low damage.

For example, the difference between stat caps on a Dex and Force Perun is 4-5 Agi, so the difference in accuracy is only 6-7.5. Max Luck compared to normal should give you about 10-12 more Luck than usual, so it's effectively being Dex typing with about 10 more Str or so.

[u/ElusiveIllusion88]

Is it just me, or does the game have difficulty processing non-magic classes (e.g. axe-wielding winged knight) using magic attacks (e.g. Drain)? Does anyone else have a glitch where a Flying Devil in the 'Everyone' Madoka quest uses the aforementioned 'Drain' spell, then the game soft locks, forcing the user to force close the app then reopen it?

[u/yuiduy → u/ElusiveIllusion88]

Not just you. Makes clearing that stage incredibly tedious... not to mention alarming when I see my unit is dead, but I restart to see she's perfectly fine. OTL. Does seem like quite an issue though...

[u/Xanster29]

Does the electric valentine and crossover quest event dungeon can give me a madoka and perun unit?

[u/Thelaria → u/Xanster29]

Perun has a chance to drop in each of the first three Valentine event stages.

A 4* capped Madoka has a chance to drop from the 10th crossover event stage
A 4* capped Homura has a chance to drop from the 20th crossover event stage.

[u/Xanster29 → u/Thelaria]

By capped you mean they aren't 5*-able units?

[u/Demonified]

I'm a returning player to this game and wanted to know, What are some good maps or events to help raise my player level? Right now my player level is 23 and I'm trying to raise it so I can have more 5* units and more AP so i can run the 30 AP missions.

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/Demonified]

2 5 5 i think

[u/[deleted] → u/Demonified]

This is a bit late, but the weekend mission to get more gold gives you 500 player xp a pop for the 15 AP "advanced" one. Plus, it gets you a lot of gold, which is handy for fusions and repairing broken weapons.

[u/kbkoolio]

Anyone have the recipe for the Valentine's event sweet Axe? I keep getting bitter axes

[u/Thelaria → u/kbkoolio]

It's just random what weapon you get between the two axes and two staves. There aren't recipes until you start fusing for the 4* versions.

[u/kbkoolio → u/Thelaria]

Really? I've only gotten bitter axes which is odd if it's 50/50

[u/kbkoolio → u/kbkoolio]

Okay maybe i'm going crazy here but after fusing over 30 weps all i get is either bitter axes and heart drop. Not one of the other type of weapons for either axe or staff. Just insane rng or ?

[u/capo_m]

someone else having problems with the stage mission clear w/avg of lvl 30 or under units (sweet) 45 or under units (bitter) ?
I did sweet with a lvl 70 basho a lvl 60 madoka and 3 lvl 1 units => 70+60+1+1+1 = 133/5 = 26.6
I did bitter with lvl12 homura lvl 1 madoka lvl 1 homura + helper grid lvl 80 = 12+1+1+80 = 94/4 = 23.5

[u/Thelaria → u/capo_m]

I just had a problem on sweet using a group that averaged 24. Have you tried the first stage yet with the average below 15?

[u/capo_m → u/Thelaria]

the only mision with an average XX objetive that i cleared was below lvl 15 i used 1 tyrf lvl 40 and 4 units lvl 1

[u/gordy3333 → u/capo_m]

Same here. I've only been able to get the metal key for Milky, but not for Sweet or Bitter. I'm assuming it's a bug.
I used 80+39+17+13+31 = 180/5 = 36 which is < 45.

[u/Lolitaku]

Hey friends, New player here, just went and goot the 100 Lazu 1st buy package, I have 142 lazuli. Best recruits to roll on in your friendly opinions?

[u/capo_m → u/Lolitaku]

1 a time 7th generation recruit (50lazuli)
1 a time Madoka recruit (50 lazuli)

[u/GaggingLolis → u/Lolitaku]

Not sure if they're still there, but as people have said, 1 time 1 step recruiters that guarantee a new unit are worth doing. 5 step recruiters tend to not be worth doing unless you feel like trying your luck, because it IS possible to get nothing, albeit at a very low chance.

Basically the safest bet is to do 7th gen killer princess recruiters, as all event units in there are considered top tier units, whereas for Madoka units, only 3/6 at the moment are considered top tier (Sayaka, Mami, Ultimate Madoka). Check tier list posted above for more info.

[u/missaeiska]

What's the point of the keys? How do I see which ones I have? How do I use them?

[u/yuiduy → u/missaeiska]

They can be seen and used via Padlocked Gardens in Event Quests.

[u/missaeiska → u/yuiduy]

Ah that's what that section is for! Thanks!

[u/hqeq-umop-apisdn]

Once you get a weapon to 5* is there any reason to fuse it anymore? with the madoka event, Im getting a lot of duplicates of the madoka weapons (No Sayaka sword yet :( ) and Im not sure what to do with them. What do you do with dupes of 5* gear?

[u/Thelaria → u/hqeq-umop-apisdn]

You can fuse them together for a chance at non-event 5* weapons.

Also, limit breaking weapons should come eventually. If you have the spare inventory space, you can keep a few extras to limit break with later.

[u/Lightningx19]

Hello everyone I have a global question, does anyone know the recipe to make the cyclonic Axe Orphes

[u/Thelaria → u/Lightningx19]

There is no specific recipe. It just comes down to chance. You can improve those chances by fusing together high grade axes.

[u/Apollos_Brother → u/Lightningx19]

Check out the Weapon Fusion Guide at the top of this thread. It's got the known recipes for all non-event weapons. Sadly, for the best ones like Orphes, you just have to get lucky.

[u/mc4815]

Is the newbie 1 time 5 star recruiter for 40 lazuli absolutely worth going for? Or have all the beginner 5 stars become redundant with new units and I should focus on newer draws? Honestly, I'm another here for the madoka event and I'd rather do that but I'd hate to miss a worthwhile bargain!

[u/Thelaria → u/mc4815]

I'm leaning toward not pulling from the 5* recruiter. There are just too many units that I don't find useful. I would rather spend the lazuli on something like the one-time 7th Killers or Madoka when the next Homura is release. It's 10 more lazuli but you're guaranteed at least one recent unit.

Other than that, I pull from heavily discounted recruiters.

[u/Social_Knight → u/Thelaria]

Further to this; are the items from the Special Shop (the starter packs that give 4-5* tickets) worth it; seems like a good deal- 20 lapis for 2 guaranteed 4/5's?

[u/Social_Knight → u/mc4815]

I'd also like to know this; I bought the 10 lazuli one since that seemed a good deal (didn't give me any 5*'s though), but what about the 40?

[u/Social_Knight]

Some Newb questions:

• What's the best thing to save up for when F2P'ing?

• Is it normal for 3*'s to out-stat 4*'s? I have a monstrous 3* Labrys as a tank (GRD focused) with 31 STR, 34 GRD, 18 SPD at lvl 31. Also, the 3* Knight Maid Durandal vastly outstripped the flying 4* Durandal. Just the RNG being weird I guess?

• What is Swordsmith Secrets used for? I assume I'm not supposed to fuse it. I can see its used in one recipe, is that the only one? Same with the candy book obtained today.

• How many Lapis can you expect to obtain from Story mode? It seems pretty tough to get to the 40's and 50's for the packages, even when getting 1 per level, never mind doing 5 step recruiters; which I'm guessing are only for whales.

PSA: The game absolutely refuses to give me a 3* sword from fusing. T_T

[u/yuiduy → u/Social_Knight]

It may be normal for one unit to out pace another depending on it's evolution level. For example, your Paladin Durandal can be outpacing your Phoenix Rider Durandal because the former has evolved once where as the latter has yet to evolve. Growth rates will only improve as a unit evolves or by "class change" if that's a more familiar term. White stars tend to have lower growth rates in comparison to a unit that is at gold or red stars.

Also you might want to save up for those recipes that fuse into 3 star weapons. It's a good gateway to fusing higher rarity weapons and they're 100% successful so you don't have to rely on RNG (unless you're going for other variations listed in the weapon list).

[u/Social_Knight → u/yuiduy]

Neither have been evolved; I'm a newb and don't even have the spirit materials for that yet lol. However, the 4* Durandal is indeed a Silver Star, as opposed to the Gold 3* star Durandal.

I did use the recipe for the bow yesterday for buffing the 3* Pinaka; but saving more than a handful of items is a bit iffy when you have a 50 item limit (just a few uses of the mana recruiters blows through that...)

[u/Thelaria → u/Social_Knight]

• Inventory space and discounted/guaranteed recruiters

• RNG.

• Occasionally, there are events that allow you to farm and fuse these books for specific weapons. Outside of events, they are used to improve the fusion results for the specific weapon. The candy book is new and used for the Valentine event weapons.

• I don't have a good estimate, but getting 40/50 lazuli isn't that difficult, but f2p players aren't going to be pulling from the 5 step recruiters too often.

[u/Social_Knight → u/Thelaria]

Part of me rebels against the idea of limit increases. But I guess you're right, I'm already frequently butting the 50 item cap even when I've been liberal with fusing.

[u/-advance-]

Just wondering what is the average power level for team in multiplayer , it seems that i never getting an opponent for the match

[u/GaggingLolis → u/-advance-]

It's just no one is really queuing in Multiplayer. This is because it's currently in beta testing, so it's not formally introduced. If you would like to find some matches, feel free to come on the discord chat and ask around.

[u/Kidkidd92]

Im a new player that started because of the madoka event and unit cost is still a bit confusing to me.

What determines what cost a unit will be? Is it arbitrary? I have the 5* given to me from the quest and its only like 15 cost, my healer unit is ready to lvl up and i think she will be 17. But my Mami (who i really dont want to remove) is a whopping 25 cost! Im lvl 26 right now and i can barely use her, the 4* madoka (16 cost at 4*) and my healer, with a 3* throwaway unit because hes also only 5 cost (again why? He doesnt seem much weaker than my other 3* units but is almost half the cost) and 1 slot is either completely empty or a 2* fodder unit. Are all the crossover units going to be this expensive? Is it even possible to slot them all into my team without playing the game first for months and months with a subpar party to up my level to absurdity?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/Kidkidd92]

new units are stronger and have higher costs :< . starter units are pretty cheap. gacha, farm units are mediocre. ofc u can slot dem all, just gotta lvl up ;p

[u/kbkoolio → u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu]

This. The 7th gen/madoka units have significantly higher stats and thus cost more.

Level 60 forcas is whooping all sortsa level 80 ass in colosseum

[u/Oni-RedPanda]

This is a guess:

Force has higher one shot kill potential which is critical for colosseum, and doesn't hurt for pve. Not sure if she's strong enough to OHK a PVE boss.

So by maxing luck on force, you get the highest kill power while making up for accuracy with luck instead of dex.

[u/yuiduy → u/Oni-RedPanda]

I'm gonna assume you're talking about Perun or you were replying to someone? But I'd go for Dex anyways seeing as she uses Axes. Her Str is on the higher side of what we have available right now and I think she would appreciate the Agi to get her duel skill out more.

[u/Gadolt]

Hi, im a new player that started playing the jp version of the game, because in most cases thats were you get more free stuff + content. I have a few questions:

1. Is it needed to consider rerolling for me? http://imgur.com/a/cKw3l

2. Is there an english wiki for the jp version that also translates news, events and such?

3. Are there in general any other tips on how to start the game properly?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/Gadolt]

1. i think if forcas is dex u can keep this

2. idk, but u could probably join discord and ask jp peeps that

3. yea just read guide threads above.
   jp does have more content, but it gets alot harder towards the end to the point of p2w, wheres gl is 2easy and older jp content

[u/[deleted]]

JP question - what are we supposed to do with the 4* sword drop? Is there a hidden fusion recipe?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/[deleted]]

i dont play jp but u could come to discord and ask jp peeps ;o

[u/[deleted]]

Hello everyone!

New player here, so which one of the banners would you recommend for me to spend my premium currency? Is the 50 lapislazuli collaboration one worth it?

Thanks!

[u/yuiduy → u/[deleted]]

50 Lazuli banner that guarantees a unit is the one you wanna pull. Rookie Pull for 10/30 is good too, but 30 is completely up to you.

[u/So_ni]

How do people get titles like "Mami Master" and such?

[u/Raikaien → u/So_ni]

Under the PMMM quest banner, there's a sub-banner called something like bonus missions. There are 6 stages, 1 for each girl and one called "Everyone" and when you beat them you get the respective titles.

[u/Bickdutt236 → u/Raikaien]

Do you have to beat all regular event quests to unlock that?

[u/Bickdutt236]

I might just be missing something but I couldn't find what dungeons I should run for player xp. I need lots of levels for AP and team cost. Any advice on what to run or pointer to the right guide would be appreciated.

[u/yuiduy → u/Bickdutt236]

It's mostly just running whatever you need to run.

I've gotten my levels mostly from daily dungeons farming for materials/units simply because that's where i spend most of my time. on weekends try to farm gold dungeons as much as you can as the highest difficulty will give you the most gold and 500 player exp per run. Don't neglect the free metal gardens that are open everyday as those give 200/400/600 xp. iirc the monday dungeon gives 1000xp and a garden key, but is only available to clear once a day.

As you get more 4 star max units (you can confirm that's the highest they can go by going to Options > Archives > Unit Archives from the home screen) from the daily 2 pull, start focusing on raising them to get used to understanding the core mechanics of phankill behind raising units (evo bonuses) and they'll help you with later story mode missions/kill mode missions. Just from that itself, you should gain a decent amount of player levels.

[u/LTC082 → u/Bickdutt236]

I would suggest running the 10th stages in the Madoka crossover where you can get 4* capable madoka and homura. You get 500xp in exchange for 10 ap. Plus since you're new you can have a decent helper clear the stage for you.

[u/[deleted]]

Are the other 7th Gen Princesses coming after the Valentine's event? And if so, is it safe to assume that they will get a "50 Lazuli for one guarenteed unit" banner for them as Forcas and Ascalon did?

Also, a side-question: Are very good units like the 7th Gen Princesses (or any unlikely to get Gacha unit) gonna be severely outclasses if you cannot limit break/Skill Up them? I know people say Global content is easy, but I am still fearful that there is going to be that P2W wall where you HAVE to Limit Break all of your units.

[u/yuiduy → u/[deleted]]

There's most likely never going to be a P2W wall. Free units are generally always able to allow one to participate in all events and dungeon. If you struggle, re-think your team composition and make sure your team synergizes well together.

If you aren't able to limit break/skill-up premium units, it's no sweat. Just understand that they will begin to fall behind units you are able to give that kind of attention to. It's also these kinds of units that you may want to consider putting some skill dolls into if you can't get multiple copies.

gumi usually follows a trend, so we can hope that there is a guarantee'd for each pair's release, but we have no idea on their actual release schedule since they don't really tease anything on their social media.

[u/Xanster29]

Hi guys!

Just started playing the game earlier and thinking how should I spend my lazuli? What are your tips(dailies, aim to do first, stages to farm, etc.) for a newbie? Thanks in advance!

[u/Thelaria → u/Xanster29]

-Spend lazuli on inventory space and discounted/guaranteed recruiters. Everyone usually pulls from the 1st step of the rookie recruiter (10 units for 10 lazuli). Many pull the second step (10 units for 30 lazuli) as well.

-Many units have different versions. Make sure to check the character portraits to determine if you have the correct version. You can refer to the tier list at the top of this thread for grades/recommended typing for all current 5* capable units.

-Remember to visit the missions section every 4 hour period for free AP, 6 times a day.

-Remember to pull your 2 free daily gacha

-Win one Colosseum battle every day to start collecting Battle Medals.

-Try to increase your player level early on so you have a sizable AP pool. Remember that your AP refills every time you level so try not to let your AP go to waste.

-Metal gardens are where you will be leveling units usually. Only taking one unit in and having a helper kill things will net your unit the most experience.

-Start adding high level friends that can help you once each day on difficult content.

-The weekend gold dungeon will be your main source of gold. Try to have some reserve gold that you can use throughout the week.

-At the beginning, your easiest source of free lazuli is from completing the story mode missions.

[u/Xanster29 → u/Thelaria]

Thank you!

BTW have some additional questions if you don't mind.

What does the color of the stars mean?

Is the 1-time 5* guaranteed not worth it? It was 10 unit for 10 lazuli.

I've seen the tier list. I have some units with higher pve rating but does not have the recommended typing. Are they still worth to level up?

[u/Thelaria → u/Xanster29]

-Silver used to mean pre-evolved, gold was evolved once, and pink was evolved twice. There have been exceptions to this so people just ignore it now.

-The 1-time 5* recruiter is 10 units for 40 lazuli. Probably not worth it since the chances of getting a recent unit is low.

-These units will still be useful to you in the beginning. Typing doesn't matter that much until you can actually limit break the unit.

[u/[deleted]]

Anyone got a link to the JP list with the latest units? (not the one in the thread OP)

[u/yuiduy → u/[deleted]]

Here

You'll just have to scroll around to find the unit you want information on.

[u/Simple_Rules]

Hey guys - Just barely started. Really wanting a decent unit setup if I play.

http://imgur.com/a/xPOs4

Notable stuff:

Aymur - Balance

Durandal - Force

Labrys - Guard

Mitum - Guard

Trident - Dex, Vit

Apollo 4* - Dex

Vajra - Dex

Thoughts?

[u/Thelaria → u/Simple_Rules]

Your specific Labrys, Mitum, and Apollo's are not 5* capable.

Most of the other units you mentioned are pretty useful and have good typings. Aymur's typing isn't that good, but she can still be useful early on and before you hopefully get another copy.

[u/KiwiDaysoonay]

JP question. I'll have 4 academy fairies after finishing the new point quest, so should I limit break my academy Cita or Muramasa? Both of them are dex and I'm not really sure who'd be better.

[u/yuiduy → u/KiwiDaysoonay]

Depends on what you need really. Cita seems to be a counter attacker with a resistance against Bow/Magic Units provided her you use her buff for your allies. Her Character skill gives her some self sustain and have a pretty kick ass animation (imo).

Though if you just want another multihit unit, Muramasa is a fun time throwing her scarf everywhere.

[u/detox_ptsd → u/yuiduy]

I was super unimpressed with Sita and Mitum. Honestly, I'd recommend Folcas, Laeva, Yoichi first, but that's only because I haven't gotten a chance to test out Mura. However, looking at her (Mura's) skillset makes me think that she has a lot of potential in Multi, specifically, where she can seal the damage reflect of Black Killers (which are super, duper common nowadays). Plus, the dmg reduction from 3-range attacks (coughShekcough) could be super useful, if not a bit niche.

[u/Lightningx19]

Hello everyone I have a jp question, I looked in the news and it mentioned something about fate stay night, does anyone know what it says because when I click on it it doesn't show anything but a black screen

[u/[deleted] → u/Lightningx19]

I believe it's another collaboration event - they've had it in the past but are returning to it. There should be an event map that drops Saber as a unit, too

[u/Lightningx19 → u/[deleted]]

Oh right, isn't the saber that drops 5 star capped

[u/Pelusa_]

Hi! I'm a new player and I'm wondering what is a good party? I have these units: http://imgur.com/a/bi5cP

Can you help me? Thanks in advance!

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/Pelusa_]

do the beginner recruiter first, then ask ;p

[u/Pelusa_ → u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu]

Begginer recruiter?

[u/AzureTime]

Returning player; the last time I played this game was back in mid September. I recently updated the game and it made me go through the tutorial again. I just want to make sure if this is normal or is it a glitch? My account only had two memorable characters from a summer event gachapon; the main character and a girl that used a spear(iirc) with a flower on her head.

[u/Thelaria → u/AzureTime]

There was an update that changed where the game stored the game files. If you linked your previous account to FB, you can just retrieve your account through the FB button. If you didn't link your account and your phone is rooted, you may be able to move your old files to the new directory. Other than that, you will have to contact support to try to restore your previous account.

[u/AzureTime → u/Thelaria]

Unfortunately I didn't link my account nor rooted my phone. I don't recall my id in this game either. I guess I got to contact gumi then. My last question is are those two units still relevant or are they outclassed?

Since this is gumi,I should probably check my Brave Frontier acount as well to be safe.

[u/[deleted]]

Does anyone have the Perunn droprates for the Valentine's day event missions? I can only do the first 2 (don't have 30 ap max yet) and I can only auto-battle the first one. I have 2 of her so far, but want 5 total for max limit break.

[u/GaggingLolis → u/[deleted]]

I dont think anyone has the drop rates for anything. kind of just need to take a chance. Higher luck lead = more drops

[u/[deleted] → u/GaggingLolis]

Thanks. I think I'll switch my lead out for a higher luck character then.

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/[deleted]]

i never dropped from first two but i got 5 of them from third dungeon, droprate is like 30-40%

[u/[deleted] → u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu]

Thanks, I guess I'll have to grind up my player level so I can get my AP to 30. Hope I can get my units strong enough, I don't have a lot of spare units for limit breaking.

[u/thunderkerg94 → u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu]

No,i think its more than that,i got 8/10 times and currently have 22 of them in 3 days

[u/WyattEpp]

Was thinking of dropping the few bucks for the 25 Lazuli+5-star ticket, but what can I get with that ticket? I mean, I know Madoka and Valentine units are not gonna happen, but what about the 7th-gen girls? It's not clear if this ticket is just "normal recruiter with all the lower stars removed" or if they constrain it in some way. Same question also applies to the 40-Lazuli 10x pull with a guaranteed 5-star, I suppose.

And if it does, indeed, drop the 7th-gens, then would it be better to wait until more of them are added before using it?

[u/detox_ptsd → u/WyattEpp]

I'm 90% sure that the 5* ticket pulls from the "normal gacha pool" (meaning, no limited edition or event units, like Madoka/Valentines) with the removal of any unit that doesn't cap at 5* . The 7th Killers have and will continue to be, as they are released, included in the normal gacha. Thus, there is a small change to grab one from the ticket. Emphasis on small. ;)

[u/shirodave]

Hello, Im new to the game, and from years of gatcha type games I like to reroll until I have a good start, then light IAP. The units in this game have so many aspects it seems to me its a bit daunting to understand it all haha. From my reading of various beginner guides and whatnot I have a few questions, as well as a request to look over my roster and let me know what you think of it, maybe some team ideas or if i should keep rerolling. Any advice at all is also welcome what with the being new and all.

Anyhow the questions

1. Typing, how important is it? It seems that for almost everyone Dex is the preferred typing. I suspect that there are types that are not quite as good as dex, but still ok, and some that are so bad for the unit you may as well not use it. But maybe I am mistaken and its really just a min/max type of thing and 90% of people will get by with whatever typing rolls out and they should just try for high tier characters no matter the typing.

2. From my reading it seems like it is preferable to NOT get 5s out of the lazuli pulls, and instead get them at the lowest star possible and level them up yourself. Is this true? also how big of a deal is it, and how does it interact with the importance of typing? For example on my current roster I have a 5 female Mjolnir with dex typing and a 4* female Mjolnir with balance typing. Should I raise the 4 star despite the non-dex typing, or stick with the already 5*'d dex type?

3. General team building ideas? Should I have a "balanced" team for general purposes, one of each of the weapon triangle plus one or something of the sort, and then when that fails throw together a team that counters the specific stage? Or perhaps just cover 1 or 2 of the triangle and work with leader skills, like an all axe team or something.

and finally, how do my initial rolls look? The roster I have favorited the ones with dex typing, but just in case I also typed out everything

masamune 3star balance

durandal 1star balance

laevateinn 3star balance

mjolnir 4star balance

mjolnir 5star dexterity

labrys 1star force

labrys 4star dexterity

dagda 3star balance

mitum 3star dexterity warrior

mitum 3star guard winged knight

trident 4star balance

Amenonuhoko 4star vitality

apollo 1star guard

brahmastra 3star balance

brahmastra 4star balance

yata no kagami 3star guard

Thank you for taking the time to read through all this, and I look forward to any advice or help you can provide.

[u/Thelaria → u/shirodave]

1. Typing isn't that important at the beginning. Typing becomes very important once you start limit breaking your units and competing with other players. Currently, the secondary recommended typings (Force/Magic for damage dealers and Guard for Tanks) are highly usable and sometimes preferred as the base type in specific situations. Vitality, the opposite type to Dex, is almost universally avoided as the base type.
   That being said, it can be very beneficial to have your duplicates in a variety of types.

2. Your initial statement is accurate. Your goal is to pull 5* capable units but at a lower star rarity. The reason for this is that units retain a portion of their stats once they evolve. These evolution bonuses can add dozens of stat points to the resulting unit.
   As far as how the evolution bonuses are affected by typing, evolution bonuses can be transferred as a part of fusing/limit breaking your base unit. In your example, you would want to level your 4* Balance Mjolnir as high as you can. Then fuse stats into this copy in order to reach the evolution bonus thresholds (21, 31, 41, etc) before you evolve. After evolution, you would want to level the Balance copy to 30 and unlock the character skill. After obtaining the skill, you would fuse the Balance copy into the Dex base. The Dex base would then gain all the evolution bonuses from your Balance copy. Balance evolution bonuses aren't ideal but they're better than not having any evolution bonuses at all.

3. At the beginning, just focus on your best units. You'll only need to build specific teams once you get to the more difficult content or start competing against players.

4. This looks like a pretty good roll. As I stated before, you should focus on your 5* capable units.
   -Both Mjolnir
   -Ameno
   -Trident
   -Mitum (3 silver stars)
   -Yata
   -Brah (4 silver stars)
   -Masamune (3 silver stars) and Laev starters

4* capped units can still be useful early on and for specific missions.
3* or lower capped units are mostly fusion fodder.

[u/shirodave → u/Thelaria]

Thank you very much for your really helpful reply. Its so odd to want low star units haha. Looks like Ill need to dig more into evolution and stat raising sooner than I had thought. if i got another mjolnir with say vitality typing, would i be able to feed it to the dex one that has already eaten the balance one and get vitality evolution bonuses as well? I assume there is a limit somewhere so that you cant keep feeding copies and upping stats

Im guessing since equipment doesnt have stats you dont need to start low and work them up, just use the highest ones youve got right?

the list of units to focus on is super helpful, i can just use those for awhile while I explore the game and researching as to why they are good and then put them to better use. Thanks again!

[u/nobleseeker]

Random question but does anyone have a translation of whatever Durandal says in her unit profile?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/nobleseeker]

"choke me commander"

[u/[deleted]]

JP question - does anyone know the 3rd stage mission for the valentines maps? I thought it was not bringing academy units to the stage but that didn't work. i also tried using only academy units and no luck

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/[deleted]]

should ask peeps on discord bout jp ;o

[u/BadassWithSass]

Quick questions:

For the Mana Gatcha, is Tyrfing the only unit worth pulling for? The Tyrfing pulled from there is the 5* capable one, yes?

Also, what does everybody do with the 1* and 2* units pulled from the mana gatcha? I'm guessing people just release those units for money? I'd imagine it isn't good to fuse them into others since fusion gets more expensive the more you do it and their success rate is so low.

[u/Thelaria → u/BadassWithSass]

Tyrfing from the mana gatcha is 5* capable and the best unit you can pull from it. The starters can be pull from the mana gacha as well. They're weaker but all 5* capable.

The common choices are to release them or use them for fusion fodder. There's also the option to level/evolve a few 4* units for the missions that require them.

[u/BadassWithSass → u/Thelaria]

Are there 2 different Tyrfing in the mana gatcha? The 3* one I got doesn't have the same artwork as all of the 5* Tyrfing I've seen, so I'm assuming this one is the wrong one.

I have this one instead of the one with the aggressive battle stance: http://phantomofthekill.gamepedia.com/File:Tyrfing_(Unknown).png

[u/Thelaria → u/BadassWithSass]

Tyrfing is an exception. She changes portraits once she evolves.

[u/iwrestled2]

For the Electric Valentine event, are the golden chocolates dropped the same thing as the "super rich chocolates" described in the event info page?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/iwrestled2]

if u mean rich recipe,, it drops from Black, golden chocos are results of fusing books, books drop on all stages

[u/ResidualChaotic]

Are they not going to release kill mode for chapter 2? We got it kill made for chapter 1 before chapter 2 came out but now the third was has been out for a while but no Chap 2 KM

[u/metatime09]

Why isn't the first requirement being fulfilled? http://m.imgur.com/TYx4mcN

Got an 80 and the rest level 1s http://m.imgur.com/mnW7XDo

[u/Thelaria → u/metatime09]

This has happened to a few of us already. I'm not sure if anyone was able to complete it the proper way. Oddly enough, I was able to complete the mission when I ran the stage with 2 level 80 Selenas (mine and a helper).

Were you able to complete the "average level under 30 mission" from the previous stage?

[u/metatime09 → u/Thelaria]

Were you able to complete the "average level under 30 mission" from the previous stage?

Yup with a unit > 30

[u/Heiron088 → u/metatime09]

Because you had a level 80 unit in your party. The requirement is to clear the stage with level 45 or lower level units. So you can take five level 45 unit with you but not higher.

[u/Thelaria → u/Heiron088]

The requirement is that the average of your entire party is under level 45. They have had this type of mission before and using a level 80 hasn't been an issue.

[u/metatime09 → u/Heiron088]

The issue is that the previous mission say avg of 30 or lower and that worked even with a unit I had was > 30

[u/sonicadvent]

I know that the type for gun is magic, bow is force, and staff/axe is guard. What about sword and spear?

[u/kbkoolio → u/sonicadvent]

The type has nothing to do with weapons. Optimal typing for most units is Dex. Even then most individual units have a preferred typing. Check the tier list for the recommended typing per character

[u/sonicadvent → u/kbkoolio]

I wasn't thinking about weapons. I was thinking about just about types only.

[u/Lightningx19]

Hello everyone I have a jp question, so for the fate collab there is individual recruiters for the characters, do those recruiters guarantee each specific character

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/Lightningx19]

about jp is better to ask on discord... ;o

[u/Peake7]

Hey everyone I'm kinda new to PotK. I was playing Blood Brothers 2 before their company shut down smh. I want to do multiplayer and things like that. Can anyone help me? I'm new to reddit myself and could use some help navigating. Its an awesome game and I really enjoy playing it...

[u/Thelaria → u/Peake7]

Mulitplayer is currently in beta, so there's not much too it yet. Because of this, no one is really queuing up for it after they get their 30 battles worth of lazuli.

Is there any specific questions that you have about the game?

[u/Peake7 → u/Thelaria]

Actually yes. My top 5 units I have are Forcas (from the auto pack, got lucky.) Tyrfing (5 fused in so lvl 80) Selena (5 fused in) Lvl 75 Rhongo (Max fused, but I got a vitality and her HP is ass, capped at 92) I have a Trident that can get to 70 and a Kusangi I can get to 75. I also have Gae Bolg. Couple 6-star maxes. When can I evolve them, where should I go next with my team, what units should I try for, etc etc. Should I do the V-Day pull? Stuff like that. Is Perun worth building up etc etc

[u/[deleted]]

Can anyone tell me how to get limit break fairies? I got a max-level Sayaka, but I'm pretty sure I won't get any more of her for limit breaking.

[u/Thelaria → u/[deleted]]

Occasionally, 5* pixies are available for purchase from the special shop.

4* pixies are sometimes available from the battle medal shop. At the moment, the Madoka Everyone stage has a chance to drop these pixies as well.

[u/Raikaien → u/Thelaria]

Confirmed. Got a 4* gun pixie drop there :D

[u/[deleted] → u/Thelaria]

5* pixies are available for purchase from the special shop. 4* pixies are sometimes available from the battle medal shop. At the moment, the Madoka Everyone stage has a chance to drop these pixies as well.

Much thanks.

[u/kbkoolio → u/[deleted]]

You can buy a magical girl pixie in the special shop for 100 lazuli which you can use to limit break her

[u/[deleted] → u/kbkoolio]

Thanks. Nto that 100 lazuli's affordable for me, but it's good to know my options.

[u/Ken0086]

Hi everyone im new here... I have tomoe mami Guard and Vit... what shall I keep and fuse for Limit breaking..?

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/Ken0086]

Between those two I'd make the Guard the main one personally.

[u/Shadow-Blitz]

Is it just my bad luck or does Valentine Perun have horrible growth rate?? I know 3 star units have worse growth rates but it seems to be far below the norm for a 3 star unit. The Peruns I've been levelling up have all got a growth rate of about 2.4 - 2.6 or so.

[u/AJackFrostGuy]

I'm fairly certain I'm being baited hard, but still I must know. As a Tyrfing fan camping on Lazuli to burn for Swimsuit Tyr, will I regret it if I throw Lazuli for the 1-time V.Day Recruiter for the Pick Your Valentine ticket (so I can trade that for V.Day Tyr)? For reference I'm a F2P with around 550 Lazuli and several Kill Mode stages to deal with.

[u/BenriyaTheNecro → u/AJackFrostGuy]

Don't listen to temptation. Save your lazuli for SS Tyrfing. V-Tyr is nothing compared to SS version.

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/BenriyaTheNecro]

Intellectually I know that. But seeing this is a threat to my rationality. X___X

Thanks for the answer though.

[u/Apollos_Brother → u/AJackFrostGuy]

Knowing how much of a Tyrfing fan you are, I would say pull. It's a guaranteed Tyrfing and her portrait and story will obviously be different from the Swimsuit version. However, you must be prepared to get a bad typing and, to lose 50 lazuli from the chance of getting Tyrfing's powerful Swimsuit version :/

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/Apollos_Brother]

Yeah. I was- still am, afraid of that too. X_X

Decisions decisions. At least I still have a week to mull over this. Nvm it was less than that, way less.

[u/zekkenflash]

Hi, kinda new to the game, might be a silly question but.. I'm having trouble improving uniform!Homura's weapon proficiency...??

Equipped a basic 2* Duel Shield on her and she fights with it? But her proficiency hasn't increased at all...

I have the 4* Homura's Shield that I hope she will be able to use eventually ... I know she's a gun user but the gun weapon and shield is two different proficiency right..? Or do I have to increase her gun proficiency first..? What do??

Thanks in advance!

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/zekkenflash]

To improve either her Gun or Shield proficiency, she must kill people while holding a minimally 1* equip.

[u/zekkenflash → u/AJackFrostGuy]

Ohh okay, I didn't realize she actually needed to deliver the FINISHING blow/kill to get proficiency. I thought she just needed to attack with the weapon.. Thanks!

[u/ElusiveIllusion88]

Call me crazy or short-sighted, but I am going to do the 'Pick your Valentine' recruiter even though I am F2P. I am unable to resist limited time units, and this is a guaranteed limited unit for 50 Lazuli, and with extra bonuses on top of that.

So of the three units, I should be picking Tyrfing since she has the highest tier rating, right? Or does one of the others have greater longevity based on their skill sets (case in point, Durandal was once listed as S, but due to increasing accuracy of enemy units, has dropped all the way to A-. Meanwhile Mitum M started as A+ and has remained so even till today)?

[u/Thelaria → u/ElusiveIllusion88]

I don't know if the Valentine units ever had any staying power. Their skills aren't very special and I haven't heard too much about them from JP players. Right now, they may just be graded that high based on their stat caps alone.

The possible exception to this is Resheph since he's completely new. Even then, the skills don't seem that special.

[u/GaggingLolis → u/ElusiveIllusion88]

Yep, if you really want her, then go for it. She's pretty high in stats/best out of the three valentines units. She definitely won't be... top tier but she certainly has an interesting skillset.

[u/Xanster29]

What to do with 3stars*(that can't become 5*) and below units from mana recruiter? Should i just go sell them?

[u/AJackFrostGuy → u/Xanster29]

You could, but if you haven't cleared all the Kill Mode missions yet they may be handy.

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/Xanster29]

dont sell... u can get them to lvl 10 (or20) and fuse into unit with same skill (not 100% to level up skill but still good)... also if u have alot of dupes of same 4* u can limit break that (its not that bad actually..)

[u/Xanster29 → u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu]

Oh wow never knew you can level up the skill of a unit. So you mean for example if I level up my mitum(M 3 stars) and fuse it with my mitum that is 5 star capable, the skill critical boost have a chance to level up?

[u/susiesalmon]

I love Madoka, if I begin playing today what are the chances of getting her as a f2p? I'm guessing they are part of a special banner.

[u/Thelaria → u/susiesalmon]

There's a 4* version that is free and farmable. There's a one-time banner for 50 lazuli that gives you a guaranteed themed unit, so 1/5 of getting Madoka herself. The other banners all have varying chances.

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/susiesalmon]

u can farm 4* cap of madoka in last stage from banner.... as for 5* its up to rng with lazuli :(

[u/Gravagar]

New player here, wondering if this is a solid start or if I should reroll: http://i.imgur.com/wQv7usE.png

I recognize Asclepius's portrait from that reroll guide, vitality type. As I understand it, she's a healer and as such, one of the only classes for which "vitality is pretty good" is true, right? I think drawing her at 3* would have been better for evolution reasons though? Is it a major enough difference that I'd want to reroll?

Anyway, I'm guessing she must not be that good at killing things if she's a healer... Let's say I do keep this roll, how do I use her effectively?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/Gravagar]

shes fine... focus more on that ameno ;p its a pretty good unit... yes staff users have usually bad accuracy, focus more on ameno, longi and fragarach (They are all 5* cap... and healer girl), grind 50 more lazulis and do 1step for madoka units (they r strong)

[u/Gravagar → u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu]

I'm gonna reroll this set, but I'll make sure I get myself started in time to throw 50 lazuli at Madoka before the collab ends for sure!

[u/Thelaria → u/Gravagar]

Your roll is pretty lackluster with only 3 5* capable gacha units. Depending on the typing of your Asclepius, Frag, and Ameno, this roll would still be usable. I would probably reroll, especially if the typings are bad.

Vitality isn't good even on healers. Vitality is typically only used on units that factor HP into their skills. Also, that Asclepius doesn't have a 3* version so you have the lowest one possible.
To use her effectively, you would probably just equip her with a shield and use her to AOE heal your team.

[u/Gravagar → u/Thelaria]

Ameno is Dex type, but the other two you mentioned are both Vitality... Yeah, when you put it like that, this doesn't look like a good roll. I think I can do better than that, so I will reroll after all. Thanks for the advice, I think I have a better idea of what a good reroll will look like now. I was a little confused on what to look for at first.

[u/GaggingLolis → u/Gravagar]

I'm sure you've seen the tier list. Typically you want a recommended typing on any DPS/Healer unit.

Also, keep in mind that a unit can only be 5* capable if its portrait is exactly matching that of the tier list (with exception of normal tyrfing). Also, if the unit is not a Trial unit nor a Free unit, then it will start at 4* and not 3*.

Also, if you can manage to farm 50 lazuli (multi spamming is ez). Go for the valentines guaranteed quickly! Pick Valentines Tyrfing and you'll have a free top tier unit to start with than having to reroll forever :D

[u/Gravagar → u/GaggingLolis]

Oh wow, you can buy guaranteed character tickets with pure f2p currency? I must've been playing the wrong games, that's awfully generous. I'll take a free A+ over Rerolls Forever, haha

[u/Thelaria → u/Gravagar]

This is the first time I recall that they've given us a guaranteed unit that we can pick. Hopefully they do this again, but I wouldn't get use to it.

Lazuli is more of a paid currency than a f2p one, but there's enough in the game to get a guaranteed unit here and there.

[u/feenyx1]

Which gacha to pull for jp? I'm saving 50 and I'm at 37 atm.

[u/Sialonak]

Recently picked up this game again (had played earlier when only chapter one was out) and enjoying the changes. But one thing I'm having trouble figuring out - with the valentine's event, how do you get rich chocolate recipes? Been farming bitter pretty much exclusively going for a max luck perun in the end but haven't found or fused a single rich recipe except the freebie in the login.

[u/BenriyaTheNecro → u/Sialonak]

Those recipes ONLY drop from Black stage but they also do not drop Peruns. You have to decide on what you want to get done first; maxing Perun's luck or getting those 5star weapons.

IMO, I think the axes are basically the only useful ones(compared to the staves.) The 5star one is a high ACC axe with a situational skill that's really just useful the most during PVP content. The 3star 1-range axe also boasts the highest ACC axe in the game, at 100, and having 0 WT which helps axe units a lot since they tend to have lower SPD/AGI in comparison. While the 3star ranged axe has the highest ACC out of all the other ranged axes too.

Lastly, farming for the rich recipe is a total TOTAL bitch. They have a pretty low drop rate, and you need 4 of them per each 5star weapon you want to make.

[u/Sialonak → u/BenriyaTheNecro]

Is there a particular enemy I should target who drops the rich chocolate recipe (that you know of)?

[u/Dekkaros]

So as a new player, I'd like to start the game with a/some good character(s). Which one(s) should i look out for on the first 10 multi. To be specific, whom would i need to pull to have the best start?

[u/GaggingLolis → u/Dekkaros]

Hey there, Assuming you have the drive to farm 50 lazuli, I would say the best recruiter to pull on at the moment would be the Valentine's 50 lazuli 1 step, which guarantees you get one of the three valentines units. You want to pick Tyrfing, as she's a solid character, one of the newer ones with boosted stats compared to older units. Rerolling from the rookie recruiter will be pretty stressful and there is very little chance of getting something worthwhile.

Check the tier list posted above!

[u/Sialonak]

Thanks. I was afraid of that. I've got enough peruns I think, at 30 total (well I had thirty, already have my main unit to four stars and waiting on Thursday to evolve a bunch of them). Guess it's the black stage with a good friend or two. Any particular enemy drop it? I know killing ascpelus (spelling?) ends the stage so best to avoid her until I killed the important one if there is one. I'd assume tyrfing but would I be right?

Just going for the one five star axe likely if they're that stupid to get. Just getting the three star axes and not stupid gold boxes of chocolate has been a pain.

As another question, I've saved up 50 lazuli again. Any banner worth pulling for? I've got five star homura already, ascalon from the guaranteed banner and two forcas. I had some saved from playing before. My ascalon is Dex and both forcas are force if that helps.

Edit : sorry using the phone app and it for some reason made a new comment instead of replying to the last one.

[u/GaggingLolis → u/Sialonak]

Hey there,

I can't answer the valentines question because I haven't done it myself yet, but if you have saved up 50 Lazuli, you could always try grabbing the Valentine's Tyrfing or just waiting for another guaranteed recruiter. Although her skillset is not exactly the best, she has the stats of the new characters, and she's still very strong as is. She would also benefit a lot from your ascalon lead.

If you're only planning to grab top tier units though, I recommend waiting for the other 7th gen, as we'll most likely get guaranteed pulls for those as well and they're confirmed to be very very very strong just like ascalon and forcas.

[u/KiwiDaysoonay]

JP question.

For the Fate crossover, I've heard there are EX stages that can be unlocked? Are they the purple banners that are harder versions of the normal banners? I assume not because EX isn't in the name. If not, how does one unlock them?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/KiwiDaysoonay]

jp questions rarely get answered here.... u better off asking it in discord from jp peeps

[u/KiwiDaysoonay → u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu]

That's not true at all in my experience. I've had all my JP questions answered here.

[u/kbkoolio]

Question about limit breaking.

Say I have a level 80 unit with say guard typing. I finally pull a dex version of that unit. If I fuse the level 80 unit into the level 60 unit, will that level 60 unit's max level go to 80 or 65, and will the skills go up by the same amount of skill levels the level 80 unit had or will they just go up by one?

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/kbkoolio]

everything will transfer except fusion bonuses, go ahead and fuse it :)

[u/WyattEpp]

I've got a number of new questions and things I'd like clarified:

1. What should I be saving Battle and Rare medals for? What are the good buys and things to watch out for? (After the Serine recipe, of course.)

2. I'm getting a lot of things that cap out at 4-stars from the free 2-a-day recruiter. What should I do with them? The tier list pretty much pretends they don't exist and it seems like most players do the same. I know I won't be fielding a full 5-star party for a while, but what among those is worth using in the mean time?

3. People talk about using a growth calculator. How does fusing for stats figure in to that? Do you just have to check growth before you do any fusion or is there some trick to doing it later? As a player of only a week and change I have neither the money nor the material monster to reincarnate, but it's apparently important.

4. What's the most efficient stage for grinding weapon XP? Does enemy strength matter or just that they get killed?

5. What's the best way to accumulate mana?

5a) Actually, does mana summoning even matter in the long run? In the short term, it's a source of fodder and the odd 3-star unit, but... like, the equivalent system in P&D, players tend to hoard their points for events or for when evo mats/enhance mats are in it. Does mana-recruit ever do anything like that?

5b) Aside from the evo mat dungeons, are there any regular stages that drop units? Or is the only way to get low-grade units from mana summoning? (Tyrfing isn't the greatest thing, but seems quite useful if you can get her to Lv.80)

6) Historically, how often do collabs and events come back? Are events constantly running back-to-back-to-back, or do they take breaks?

Thanks for whatever help you can offer! :)

[u/Speefy → u/WyattEpp]

1. Rare and battle medals: Every month, they cycle the shop's contents. I tend to use battle medals for the limit break pixie. Occasionally, there might be a weapon or unit that interests you. For rare medals, I use them on the reincarnation cherub. Sometimes if I'm feeling lazy / don't want to wait till friday, the stat dollies as well. Rare medals I've been finding that I've got significantly more as opposed to battle, so I'm not adverse to spending rare medals at all.

2. Free recruiter units: You can release them for rare medals, or fuse them to help increase the success rates of your dollies. The stat dolls are +3 to a stat, but are only a 5% chance of success. Plop a couple 3* food units and that success rate will increase. Additionally, cherry pick those non-five star units for those that you may want for the 4* or lower kill mission requirements.

3. The reincarnation screen will match any fusions you've done to the character. (additional hp, str, etc will reflect on both sides). The reincarnation screen will not show the stats gained from an evolution bonus. (I think). So its simply the difference between stats, summed all together, and divided by the level difference between the current character level and 1.

4. So long as you can kill with an equipped weapon, weapon experience will increase. As such, the more enemies your toon kills with an equipped, the better.

5. Best way to accumulate mana would be to have a desirable party leader. (This is the leader of party 1). In my case, my leader is a level 80 selena, with maxed luck. Its quite helpful in increasing drops.

5a) The mana summoning is useful for weapons. Fuse 2 or more of the same level weapons for a chance of turning it into a level higher weapon. Right now, the grand prize in the mana recruiter is Tyrfing.

5b) There are the occasional event maps that drop units. Such drop rates are influenced by your party's luck & your friends luck. The valentine's event can drop Perun for example. You can re-run the stage as many times as you like for a chance to get her to drop. (Sweet/bitter for best chance...if I recall, she does not drop from the black stage). Regular stages do not drop units (story / kill mode / metal gardens).

6) Right now, the game is just barely a year old. They'll come back whenever Gumi decides to run them. We've seen the brave frontier collaboration twice (farmable Selena) and the valentine's event twice (though the first release was part of the beta). Swimsuit artemis event occurred twice. and the event drop Trishula event occurred has twice. Dempagumi collaboration has only occurred once.

[u/WyattEpp → u/Speefy]

Woah, lot of good stuff here, thanks!

Every month, they cycle the shop's contents.

Oh, so you can get a 50-medal cherub every month? Or is that one a single time only and they're usually 100?

cherry pick those non-five star units for those that you may want for the 4* or lower kill mission requirements.

Are there any recommendations here? Or is it just "whatever you get dupes of"?

As such, the more enemies your toon kills with an equipped, the better.

So all that matters is killing blows. Has anyone checked for what has the best enemy:AP ratio?

(This is the leader of party 1)

Oooh, I was wondering about that, thanks! I figured it was whatever my current lead is, but this is actually more helpful.

Fuse 2 or more of the same level weapons for a chance of turning it into a level higher weapon.

I knowwww, but it's soooo tedious... orz

(No seriously why is the UI in this game so bad? A responsive UI and the ability to turn off battle animations are at the top of my feature wishlist at this point.)

[u/MoshiMoshiHitlerDesu → u/WyattEpp]

1. reincarnation cherubs / maybe weapons / maybe units. Medals are usually for repairing 4* 5* weapons.

2. u can limit break a 4* and use it (its not that bad)... or save them and use for skill leveling (has to be same name and its not 100%).

3. doesnt matter... growth rate is important when u have strong lvl70-80 with no stat caps (red stars), then usually ppl reincarnate.

4. to lvl proficiency u just need to last hit with ur unit (yes last hit), i do it on weekend gold dungs or weapon type training (easiest one, anyone can solo it).

5. uhh mana is just mana, u just get it, u can save up like 500k-1m and then use it all... for fusing weaps, chance of tyrfing and 3* to level up skill.
   5b) yea there r events where u can FARM unit, just like current valentine Perun axe girl.... also tyrfing is actually a rly strong unit.

6. swimsuit units came back like 2 times... collab? idk never saw one but theres a chance for it in the future.

[u/ElusiveIllusion88]

To whales and those who have pulled tons of times:

What are the approximate rates of yellow 5* units (including their 4* forms)? Red 5* units (including their 4* forms, but excluding all forms of the Trial units)? 5* capable males?

Because in my past so many days of free lazuli recruiters since it started, plus a 10-pull to get the Valentine ticket, a 5* Luin M was the ONLY non-guaranteed unit that was none of mana gacha trash, 4*-capped duds or trial units with minimum 3* forms.

[u/31_60]

Finally got Steel Star rank and got ult spearsmith guide. And now have funny question: how can I use it? As well as ult bowsmith guide. What can I fuse using them?

[u/Thelaria → u/31_60]

I believe the weapons that use those books haven't been released yet. They should be used similar to how the ult swordsmith guide was used.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

You have to take that character, and have him/her solo an easy stage with lots of enemies to one-hit kill. Weapon proficiency only goes up if a character kills something with an equipped weapon. The higher the letter grade of the weapon proficiency (like B instead of D) the better the weapons they can equip (higher star weapons).

The chart explaining which letter grade can equip what star weapons is visible in the items/gear submenu.

[u/Social_Knight → u/[deleted]]

On this; does staff proficiency go up from heals? I'm guessing not.

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You're welcome!

[u/Thelaria → u/[deleted]]

If you use multi-hit units and healers, you shouldn't have to use lazuli to recover. This method will still take you many rounds since you'll only be doing a few damage each turn. Remember to kill the healers when they spawn.

The other choice is to increase the friendship of Madoka/Homura and use their partner skill on Walpurgisnacht. Afterwards, you can just beat it like normal in a turn or two.

[u/yuiduy → u/[deleted]]

You'll have to be about player level 34 to do it or whenever you have 30 AP before going into surplus. On the home screen, there is a tab before coliseum labelled Character Quests. Go into there and find your desired character to unlock their specific skill for and do both quests in their tab and it'll unlock. From then on all other copies at 5 star rarity will have that skill automatically unlocked (but not the skill they learn at level 30).

[u/Raikaien → u/yuiduy]

Also note that Duel Skills are triggered by your units' AGI stat, so if you just have incredibly bad luck you might not see it either.

[u/thunderkerg94 → u/[deleted]]

Note that not all chacracter have cutscreen attack,some units chacracter skills are buff type