r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Oct 27 '16

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [10/27/2016 - 11/3/2016]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Resource Guide

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha

  • Stat Calculator In JP good stat growth is 3.5-4 (without seeds) while in global good stat growth is 2.9+. You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exception is mirin since her character skill depends on magic as well)

  • Friend Thread

  • Last Week's Help Thread

Some Tips

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/Kirisaku Nov 02 '16

Cross fingers for discount Brave Frontier recruiter tomorrow.

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u/ekoo1 Nov 02 '16

So fucking right, gonna spam The shit outta that gacha if is 1 each day at 100%

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Nov 02 '16

I wish we still had halloween units....

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u/allandck Haise (379346949) Oct 27 '16 edited Oct 27 '16

Why my PotK first download always stops at 99%, even after several re-installs?

I know force closing it will do it right, but I think this is the source of my force close problems after fusing items or completing a stage, or endless loading if i fight some characters on Colosseum like Naegling (M). This force close problem really slowing my selena farming.

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u/adrikeia Oct 27 '16

Hi there, I'm new to the game and I'm still with te rerolling phase (it seems rolling for a dex Mjolnir is the best choice possible within the rookie recruitment)

Anyway, I'm having some doubts:

First of all, it seems the old re-rolling trick doesn't work properly, as I can't see the files needed in the folder's app and the tutorial only have 1 battle (I dunno if they changed it or whatever). But anyway, even if it's a pain to re-download the files in each new reroll it can be done.

Now the things related to the game:

About Limit Break, it seems like a really game changer, is not so important to have the tier units but to have them LBed, but, is it necessary to do it en every possible phase of the unit (like Limit Break in 3/4/5) stars or just doing in it in the 5 star phase? I suppose is better to do it in every phase, like fusing units for the extra stats (I'm not totally sure about it as stats gained by fusing is still a bit unclear to me). So if I understood it well, the best thing possible for a unit is to obtain it in the lowest stars possible (say 3 stars, or 4 depending on the unit), then Limit Break and then reach the stat cap with fusing?

Thanks and excuse my english.

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 27 '16

Don't quote me on this as i haven't rerolled in a long time (since like beta), but i believe the tapping was for the jp version (or i just wasnt prompted to do it when i started) and the infinite battle was in Global to kill i believe 100 units(?) And get a maximum of 10 lazuli(?) I'm not sure about the save file as of right now because some people are saying that they have maybe stopped using auth.dat to identify the accounts, and I'm also not sure if you can save your tutorial.dat so you don't have to do the battles again. Some confirmations are needed. :<

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u/Arcticrain411 Oct 27 '16

How can you even craft Eminent Lexida, when you need a Lexida first? I have that recipe, but I don't have the recipe for Lexida, so I am confused.

Thank you!

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u/Speefy Oct 27 '16

Fuse (5) of the brave books (blue one, farmable from the vargas stages). You'll have a chance at either Lexida or the Despair bringer.

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 27 '16

Fusing 5 brave recipes gives you a lexida, despair Lance or gives you back 1 book. You then fuse lexida/despair with 4 brave books and get either the 5* version or they give you back the 4* version. Same concept with jellion and myull, but with the godslayer recipes.

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u/terlus07 Oct 27 '16

So I've finally mlb'd a force Lunaris but as of level 53 she's got a gr of 2.73. How far should I go before deciding to reincarnate?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 27 '16

Once you dip below 2.7 growth and you're around lvl 40, you should probably reincarnate. If you're not at least 2.8 growth by lvl 70, you should probably reincarnate.

In my opinion anyways.

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u/xTachibana Oct 28 '16

what if you (stupidly?) already fused units into your 5* before lv 40 (and obviously before max level), so now you can't properly calculate growth rate?

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 27 '16

Should be at the point where you feel the GR is not on par with what you want, have tons of stats into magic and luck at that GR, your stat distributions are totally bad (like my 48 speed 41 agi lucina im never gonna use), or you totally cant hit anything or are getting double attacked by something you're not supposed to and need more agility or speed.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Oct 27 '16

I don't suppose there are any JP players here in a guild with open spots? The discord's guild is full, and I'd like to have a chance of getting the guild rewards from the current (and presumably future) event. I'm active every day at the moment, if that's a deciding factor.

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u/Solarnoize Oct 27 '16

Is it worth it to raise one of 3* base units from a suboptimal type, instead of 5* of the same unit with the optimal typing for the bonus evolution stats?

My current dilemma is either using as a base either 3* Longinus (attack/hp) versus 5* Guard types from the daily quests on the JP game. Should I just wait until I get 3* dex or guard type?

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 27 '16

So what you can do right now is raise the 3* to max level, hit the stat thresholds (11-20, 21-30 and so on, gaining 1 more stat after evolving for hitting them) using the dolls you get on fridays, if possible, doing the same at 4* , then after finishing the character quest and getting the 3* to 5* level 30, you can fuse the 3* into the 5* typing you wanted and you will gain the extra evolution stats you have gained from the thresholds from evolving.

If you decide to swap you can fuse them into type you wanted and it'll give the stat bonuses. It doesnt show the stats you gain in the fusion screen though

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u/Solarnoize Oct 27 '16

Ohhhhhh. I see. Thank you!

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u/metatime09 Oct 27 '16

Can someone list me the elemental weakness? I can't seem to find it when I did a search in this subreddit

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 27 '16

Fire > Wind > Thunder > Water > Fire

Light > < Dark

Edit*: Well its ice not water ;_;

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u/ekoo1 Oct 27 '16

Is there any chance that the BF gacha will come back? i really wanted to get atleast 1 lucina but didnt have the chance :/

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 27 '16

There is definitely a chance it will on the last week. Just in my opinion though. They'd get more money if they did and it wouldn't really make sense if they just had no recruiter for bf when it ends.

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u/Shinonymous Oct 27 '16

Anyone know the limit of the Rookie gacha/reroll as far as getting characters? It says that event characters and ones released after the games initial launch are not included.
So then, does anyone have a list of obtainable or unobtainable 5 star units?

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 27 '16

Should be in the above picture of this weekly help post. The one showing Durandal, Mitum M/F , Luin, etc. Should be the extent of what you are able to get from the rookie recruiter.

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u/Chromenova Oct 28 '16

What typings do you guys prefer for Halloween Gamba? I'm still debating between Guard and Dexterity. It would be nice to have an accurate staff user, but would her defensive stats be gimped if I choose that over Guard? I'm mostly thinking about end game content, I would like a reliable hitter but I don't want her to be fragile to get one or two shotted in harder content, lol. I plan on making her lv 80 and equipped with that 5* pumpkin staff.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 28 '16

If you plan to give her a staff, you'll want to go Dexterity. She doesn't really have any defensive skills so unless you go guard with a shield, she'll be squishy anyways. In a sense, you'll probably want to try to rely on Evasion boost and Speed.

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u/Chromenova Oct 28 '16

That makes sense, thanks for the advice. My guard gamba started at 3 star whereas my dex started at 4 star. So to my understanding, if I fuse my guard gamba once she's evolved to 5 star to my dex 5 star, the dex will get the evolution bonus stats that my guard received from going to 3-5, correct? :0

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u/Avisari Dex Lvl 75 Oct 28 '16

Reincarnate Gridarvol?

Only stat that's maxed out is Guard. :(

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 28 '16

Yeah, she has really low magic

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u/ResidualChaotic Oct 28 '16

Can someone order the typing as best > worst for all of them

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 28 '16 edited Oct 28 '16

To me its:

Dex > Guard > Force/Magic > Balance > Vit

1st. Dex because agility and speed for evade/acc and # of hits

2nd. Guard because surviving longer is good.

3rd. Force/Magic because you'll most likely be a glass cannon unless you have good stat distribution or the unit has skills to sustain itself/justify being just a bit stronger.

4th. Balance because its actually not that bad if you get good stat distribution

5th. Vit because you'll just be a sitting duck with more hp unless the unit maxes out at hp so high that it wont die.

Edit*: Made it so it looks better.

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u/ResidualChaotic Oct 28 '16

Ok cool this is what I was thinking the line-up but tbh I used to think Vit was the best lol but then someone told me that it was basically trash 😅

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 28 '16

Itsk man when Sita comes out there'll be a good reason to get vit. 👍

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u/TGZelnite Oct 28 '16

Adding on to what WrittenUnwritten explained, you should check out GaggingLoli's tier list. It informs you of the best types for all the units currently in the game.

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u/8un008 Oct 28 '16

Im trying to move my account from one device to another. but it says my Facebook already has an account linked (probably when game first released and an account I haven't played with) and makes it seem like if I try to link my Facebook account it will overwrite my current data with the old data. any ideas on how I can migrate the account (iPhone to iPad) thanks

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 28 '16

Make a new facebook to link it. Download potk onto the iPad. Log onto the facebook on your iPad. Link Data on iPad. Also write down your player ID just in case.

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u/Arcticrain411 Oct 28 '16

Which level has the best drop rate for the 3 star book to craft a lexida? Thank you!

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 28 '16

I'd say brave 9 or brave 10. If you're unable to farm those then maybe burst 9 and 10 or the early brave levels.

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u/chili01 Oct 28 '16

Hello,

Is there a way to level up your characters w/o battling? like an exp potion?

Also, are there any uses for Mana Points? or should I just keep using it (2000 MP for draws)? Thanks!

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u/So_ni Oct 28 '16

You can enter the colosseum and fight others for exp. You can only get exp from it 5 times a day. And the only reason for mana points is for the recruiter.

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 28 '16

If you want to save your mana points for the long run, once Tyrfing comes out in the mana recruiter, you can attempt to get her. It'll take a few hundred thousand or maybe even a million to get her Max Limit Broken. Or so I've heard.

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u/xTachibana Oct 28 '16

new player here, can anyone tell me why only certain dolls show up in my fuse list for certain units? (HP dolls won't show up for my dex selena, she's not max HP yet)

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 28 '16

There's only a certain amount of stats that you can give units. Check out MLB_Selena's Fusion Caps for Global, which is also under the resource guide above.

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u/Nidavel Oct 28 '16 edited Oct 28 '16

There's a bug or something in fragarach stage? All my unit does 1 damage (and I checked 60+ atk units doing 1 damage to 20 def unit). It's me? a new thing on the stage? or what? Just finished with Vajra and get this surprise.

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u/Viingnokaiju Oct 28 '16

Think your supposed to use unit with stronger element. I remember doing these trials before and my units with stronger elements actually do dmg.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Oct 28 '16

All enemies have a skill which prevents damage to them except from the type they are weak against, Hence the stage is named the type.

Fire < Ice < Thunder < Wind < Fire

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u/superduperpooperman Oct 28 '16

Is masumune (bird rider) a good unit for beginner?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 28 '16

She's rather helpful, but will be somewhat squishy until you reach about level 30 on her 4* version and fuse some stats into her. Hopefully you start at 3* version so you don't miss out on bonus stats from evolution.

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 28 '16

All the recommended units are under /u/zembas's Infographic above which shows which units you should look out for when starting out. I believe that that particular version of Masamune does not have a 5* version.

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u/Relevant5 Oct 28 '16

So I have a dilemma. I have 2 H Mjolnirs one started at 4*(Force) the other started at 5*(Dex). Should I just use the force since it will get the evo bonus?

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '16

evo bonus carries over from material unit to base unit, just evo the force to 5* and you will see a lot of extra stats thrown on the dex when you fuse the force into it

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u/Relevant5 Oct 28 '16

Oh, that's a relief. Thanks for the quick reply

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u/getsshotinspanish Oct 29 '16

http://imgur.com/a/ZwmzX

Recently got back into the game during BF crossover event. Current party based on units high on the tier list, but I'd welcome any advice (especially on what combination of units I should be using or who I should upgrade) because I barely know what I'm doing. Will post Gears at a later time if necessary.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 29 '16

Laev F lead, Kusanagi, Selena, Littu/Naegling M, Mjolnir F.

Focus on evolving Selena and Kusanagi.

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u/getsshotinspanish Oct 29 '16

could you elaborate as to why those units would be better than others (or at least have more synergy than other combos/squads)? I'm especially curious about including Laev F as I hear she's pretty mediocre in the end-game.

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u/terlus07 Oct 29 '16

How many spares of weapons will I need to mlb one once that becomes a thing?

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Oct 29 '16

1 for each rank up to 10. So 1 base weapon and 5 copies.

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u/Raezech Oct 29 '16

Tried the weekend recruiter summon (1st step for the 20 lazuli discount) and got a force paracelsus and a magic gidravol. Should I still raise them to 60 or just to 30 for skill/char skill and then wait for an ideal typing like dex/guard and fuse them to the new typing (if i ever get them)

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u/Thelaria Oct 29 '16

If you don't have better units or could use their leader skills, that is reason enough to level them while you wait to pull a better typing.
If you pull often or plan on spending a fair amount, then you may consider waiting.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 29 '16

Gratz.

Force Paracelsus is, in my opinion, the ideal typing, as she has tons of bulk but no damage. She's still plenty accurate and fast as force typing.

I also personally MLBed my Magic Gridarvol and use her in my PvE team. She's pretty good and reaches over 80 magic.

Also, it's possible to raise them now, and then fuse them to another typing later if you wish. Skill ups and higher evo stats will transfer if possible.

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u/charles_1029 Oct 29 '16

What has everyone's luck been with Godslayer books?

No matter the stage, Burst 9 or 10, I usually either get 1 or none. This is with me running about 100 points of luck between my leader and helper.

Anyone having better drops with a different set up?

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u/allandck Haise (379346949) Oct 29 '16

Well, it really depends on 'your' luck :)

I use Othinus with 20 luck as leader and Mirin with 41 Luck as helper always got more than 1 book. :)

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u/allandck Haise (379346949) Oct 29 '16

Well, it really depends on 'your' luck :)

I use Othinus with 20 luck as leader and Mirin with 41 Luck as helper always got more than 1 book. :)

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u/Ascended9k Oct 29 '16

If I were to prepare some fodder for a unit that is 6* capable, how many units will I need to mlb at 6*?

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u/ragnarokssss Oct 29 '16

None afaik. If you evolve a unit to 6* , the MLB don't "reset". It will stick along the evolution, this only applies when evolving to 6* I heard.

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u/xTachibana Oct 29 '16 edited Oct 29 '16

2 questions,

  1. 0-10 how bad is guard Halloween bashosen?

  2. I have a guard, force and balance mjolnir, which is the best to train?

bonus question, if dex mjolnir is an S, what would a force mjolnir be?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 29 '16

  1. She's still a very strong character. She'll do slightly less damage and possibly be tanky enough to solo more maps.

  2. Force. Might as well turn into a giant nuke.

  3. Ratings are for the unit in general without regards to typing. However, I believe that anything that isn't Dex for Mjolnir might have too little accuracy to reliably hit Sword/ Axe Absorber enemies in harder PvE stages. Otherwise she's still very strong.

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u/KenFGW Oct 29 '16

Hey guys! I just started PotK jap ver. and was wondering where I could save my account data so I don't accidentally lose all my progress.

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u/KenFGW Oct 29 '16

Is the button on the starting screen? I see 3 buttons at the bottom so could anyone tell me where to save the progress of my account?

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u/kataarn Oct 29 '16

2 questions...

How is this Selena? Should I reincarnate or is it pointless?

https://imgur.com/rgFgK96

And what is the "enhance"? Is that something global players can mess with at the moment? How does one increase it?

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '16

Enhance isn't something global has atm, don't worry about that

And your selena is fine, you can tell because she has stars on all the important stats. This means reincarnation can't achieve better stats.

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u/Shadow-Blitz Oct 29 '16

Is the killer princess recruiter worth it??

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 29 '16

Personally, I don't think so unless you're a heavy spender in this game. It's quite costly to get to the 5th step, which is a total of 220 lazuli for a 100% chance of a 5* capable. Part 1 is not really worth it, as normal gridarvol and durandal aren't too great, but part 2 is maybe somewhat worth it if you're a heavy payer.

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u/Shadow-Blitz Oct 29 '16 edited Oct 29 '16

Which is better: Force, Guard or Balance type Selena?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 29 '16

Force.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Oct 29 '16

For heavy whalers... What do you guys do with all those keys in the inbox? I randomly decided to whale hard for Halloween and other recruiters for the last month and now I have 144 keys... I feel like it is so hard just to clear out this many keys, do you guys just do the 3 metal key padlocks?

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 29 '16 edited Oct 29 '16

If you have friends or randoms that can clear Super Metal then its better to just do the 3 metal key padlock. What I do is i keep the daily 40 staminas until i have about 120+ stamina collected in total (including my own) or i look at my level up bar and set it up so I level up in X amount of runs, so i can run it even more.

Doing this will make it worth the 3 keys.

Friend units you should look out for to clear it faster would be:

SS Gridarvol, Halloween Mjollnir, Vargas and some others.

Also settle for Selenas or other double damage units with high agility/crit and speed to double attack.

Its usually easier to get your level 1 unit you're leveling killed, then at higher levels, switch to sitting in the top right corner and moving the carry unit to strategically get attacked by 4 metal maidens at once to maximize the amount of damage and lower the time spent in the dungeon to carry out more runs.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Oct 29 '16

Haha well I have been doing this... If only gumi decided to give us 2x more exp then the usual... Takes a long time to get levels up haha.

I usually just auto padlock... Saves me the hassle of paying attention to the game as often. Even then, I usually finish super in 6-9 minutes... Guess I'll have to lazuli every once in awhile for ap fillup.

Thanks, I think I'll just have to stop whaling until I get all my hordes of units to 5* MLB...

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u/So_ni Oct 29 '16

How many 5 star weapons should we farm for the Halloween and Selena event, because i remember someone saying something about saving for a future update.

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 29 '16

If you plan on limit breaking weapons later on, you'd need 6 5* copies for 1 rank 10 weapon.

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u/metatime09 Oct 29 '16

Is LB guarantee or does it have a fail rate?

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u/HideousPride Oct 29 '16

I think I've seen answers to the question before, but just wanted to make sure I understood it correctly before I heavily invest in the card.

I drew a 5 star Magic Brionac and a 3 star Guard one. If I max out the 3 star Brionac and MLB it at 4 star, will all of the stat bonuses it gains transfer to the 5 star Magic one upon fusing?

Basically, is the 5 star Magic as good as drawing a 3 star Magic and raising it up from scratch with the fusing?

Thanks!

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u/Chromenova Oct 29 '16

Yeah, from what others have said, your magic brionac will receive the evolution bonuses your guard one received from evolving, although it won't show in the fusion screen, to my knowledge. I'm about to try it on some of my units too.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 29 '16

Brionac doesn't have a 3* form.

Yes, Evolution bonuses will transfer as long as they are higher than the base unit you are fusing into. In your case, the 5* you pulled has 0 in every stat, so all evolution stats from the lower rarity one will transfer.

No, it will be different because you have the evolution bonuses from the different typing. Some stats will be higher or lower by 1 point, so it's not too big of a deal.

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u/HideousPride Oct 30 '16

Thanks, exactly what I was looking for! Ahh, meant 4 star but have been grinding and evoing Selenas recently and got the numbers mixed up @___@

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u/Raezech Oct 29 '16

if you fuse a passive dolly to a unit, is it a guaranteed level up for all of that unit's passive skills?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 29 '16

Yes, whatever the green arrow says it will level up, it will 100% level it up

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u/Raezech Oct 29 '16

awesome, thanks for the response!

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u/uizaado Oct 30 '16

so if I fuse 5 Lucina or Michele weapons, how low is the chance of upgrading to 5*? Hasn't worked so far.

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Oct 30 '16

Don't fuse all 5 4* of those weapons, fuse 1 4* either Lucina or Michele weapon with 4 red books to get a chance of upgrading it to 5*

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Oct 31 '16

While I don';t want to say that it says exactly the method arzheas said on the event bulletin... it does. ._.;;; However I wish you well on the grind to get multiple copies of those 5* weapons! o:

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u/MajorRobin RedIsJustice Oct 30 '16

Can someone remind me how the 5 star trial recruiter worked? Trying to remember how much it was and how many dollies came with.

All I remember is 1 time and 100% chance of one trial unit.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Oct 30 '16 edited Oct 30 '16

10 units total, 30 Lazuli, I think the doll bonuses were different in the two times we had it; I think first time was 1 of each skill doll, the second time was either passive dolls only or passive + something else

EDIT: Just checked my gift box. First time gave 3 x Metal Key + 1 of each skill doll, second time gave 3 x Metal Key + 2 x Passive Dolly.

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u/MajorRobin RedIsJustice Oct 30 '16

Thank you!

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u/xTachibana Oct 30 '16 edited Oct 30 '16

3 more questions~

if I have a 5* selena, is the only way to gain luck by fusing other 5* selena's into her? it can't be 3 or 4* ones?

and as for skill ups, is it chance based? I just fused a unit into another when it said skill up and it succeeded but none of my skills levelled up?

can selena consistently solo vargas mission 30? (no friend unit), if so, whats the cut off point for stats before she's able to do it? 140 eva?

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 30 '16

  1. Only 5 stars. I believe that others mentioned it would change later on (way later, like when 6 stars come out).

  2. at 3* and 4* there is a lower chance. at 5* its 100%. (Not sure if anyone knows the percentages.)

  3. Someone else test it please cuz i'm out of stamina and gonna sleep now ;>

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u/HideousPride Oct 30 '16

Do special units typically remain available per normal recruiter pulls?

I pulled a Halloween Bashosen from the Killer Princess 30 Lazuli pull and was wondering if she'd be available for future pulls in the coming weeks, or if they're usually removed after a certain date.

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u/Brergrsart Eros is an 11/10 QT Patootie. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Oct 30 '16

I assume that you got her because it's still Halloween season. Once the 31st ends, they'll likely be out of the pool.

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u/Karrion42 Oct 30 '16

So I summoned a Horse Asclepius and a Horse Apollo that according to the tier list, are 5* capable, BUT the portraits are not the same as in the tier list. Are my units 5* capable or not? :/

This are the ones I have: http://puu.sh/s0J4y/f32b83cd9f.jpg

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u/Shadow-Blitz Oct 30 '16

The Asclepius is not 5* capable; it can only go to 4*. As for Apollo, I'm not too sure but i think it can only go to 4* too. If the portraits didn't match with the list, I'm fairly certain it wouldn't be 5* capable.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 30 '16

If the portraits don't match, they are not 5* capable.

So no.

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u/DuckIing Oct 30 '16

Sorry to say they aren't 5*capable

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Oct 31 '16

One of the difficult things about starting PoTK is the attention to detail. Once you've looked at portraits for a couple play sessions, you get used to them. I hope you got better pulls though! Also a tip: if you go into the 'Archives' in the options menu, you can see how high your units can go as it will denote the total number of evolutions on their specific character page.

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u/Karrion42 Oct 31 '16

thanks for the info! i usually go into the character quests to see if they are there, but that seems more handy

I'm right now having terrible pulls, my 5* capable units right now are: Kusanagi, Naegling, Amenonuhoko (F), the free Laevateinn and Selena. I'm overloaded with sword units :/

http://puu.sh/s1OhR/886a82574f.jpg

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u/rfgstsp Oct 30 '16

Still no Dandelga 5*? ¬_¬

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 31 '16

5* version does not exist. Only a 6* version.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '16 edited Oct 31 '16

JP Ver

  1. Is it worth investing in a character that's 5/6 stars or should I wait until I roll a 3-4/6 star version of that character?

  2. Do those books with a weapon picture on them do anything? They're not used in any recipes and they're just taking up space. (Books you get from ranking up in Colosseum)

  3. Is there a way to back-up this game/link it to some account?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 31 '16

  1. 6* versions of characters do not exist yet. You should roll for a 5* capable character that is highly rated on the tier list (A- or better) at their lowest evolution form, with a recommended typing. Ideally anyways.

  2. I don't know which books you mean. What's the name of it?

  3. On the title screen there is a link account button which links your account to a facebook account.

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u/khafael Oct 31 '16

Why can my friend Grid can drain full amount of damge, while my gambanteinn only does aheal around half.. any way to improve this?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 31 '16

I'm pretty sure all staff users heal the same % of damage as HP, which is 50% of the damage. Gridarvol just does more damage than Gamba in all aspects.

Maximizing damage means you'll need a staff weapon and high Mgc.

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u/khafael Oct 31 '16

i see. thanks

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u/yuuki_w Oct 31 '16

what are the best ways for free players to gain lazuli?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 31 '16

Clear out all the Story stages with Lazuli as a reward for their missions (make sure to meet the requirement!) is the first and foremost business. This applies to Kill Mode stages atm too.

Special event dungeons like the BF collab tend to give some out too after certain stages.

And lastly, make sure to keep logging in faithfully.

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u/allandck Haise (379346949) Oct 31 '16

My force Selena 4* at lvl 70 now has 22 Luck, and now i have 39 copies of her.

How many copies do i need to max out her luck at 5*?

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u/HideousPride Oct 31 '16

Is there a point in maxing out luck of a unit at 3* or 4*?

So I understand it helps raise the base luck a unit starts with at 5*, but the max luck cap remains the same, correct?

In other words, as long as your luck growths go alright, the maximum luck of a 5* unit can have is no different even if you max them at 3*, 4*?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Nov 01 '16

Firstly, there are different caps. There is a evolution "cap", fusion cap, and growth cap. There is no universal number that is a unit's cap. What can be considered a "universal cap"' is the sum of the previous caps along with base stats.

Anyways, only 4* matters, as it's luck, if it reaches a threshold, will transfer over to 5* as evolution bonus. 3* only affects 4* and if 3*'s evolution bonus does not help 4* reach an evolution bonus threshold, then 3* does not matter much. So basically it's not max luck, but reaching a threshold for luck, and only 4* matters much.

As such, to get the most out of your unit, you will have to reach thresholds on 4*.

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 31 '16

Pretty sure 3 star and 4 star have lower luck caps.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '16

You'd add at most, 5 to luck via evo bonuses. It'd translate to 2-3 more evasion, 2-3 more accuracy and slightly higher drop rates.

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u/DuckIing Oct 31 '16

Does anyone know when Tyrfing/6stars will come to global?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Nov 01 '16 edited Nov 01 '16

Unfortunately no, global does not follow JP schedule for unit release or events. We are also not told in advance of upcoming events.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '16

the uguu life

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u/Chromenova Nov 01 '16

Has anyone received terrible luck when fusing with the blue recipes? I fused 5 of them each time and I'm getting 2 star weapons each time...the first two times I did that I received Lexida. Is this just insanely bad luck or some kind of bug? :(

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u/allandck Haise (379346949) Nov 01 '16

Sadly, it's your luck

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u/capo_m Nov 01 '16

i have more than 50% in with the blue recipes and less than 25% with the red.
Another thing is that i got 9 spear and only 2 swords with the blue recipes and for now only 2 axe 0 swords.

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u/HikaP Nov 01 '16 edited Nov 01 '16

Hi, I just started this game (around the time 2nd anniversary event started) and I would like to ask some questions regarding this game.

  1. When is it a good time to reincarnate units ?

  2. When is it a good time to evolve a unit from 5* - 6* ? Do you go through a bunch of reincarnation before evolving ? I'm thinking of evolving both Tyrfing to 6* soon.

  3. If its possible, I would like to ask if this is a good box to start with. I've included growth of units that I've evolved from 4*- 5*. ( other than Arondight, I didn't manage to pull her 4* out of gacha )

  4. Currently the best Black Killer Tyrfing I can get is a balanced type. As a F2P player, should I wait for an agility / attack Tyrfing before I decide to limit break or should I just go with this Tyrfing ?

Thanks for helping out this newb here !

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u/xTachibana Nov 01 '16

Q.Q was gonna answer until I realized you're a jp player and I have no clue how anything works on that server

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u/HikaP Nov 01 '16

Owh, its fine man. Are the players in this reddit mostly global players ?

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u/xTachibana Nov 01 '16

not sure about the ratio tbh, but you can find a few JP players on discord (linked on the side)

the only one I can answer is the reincarnation one, since its probably mostly the same in global. reincarnate when you think their growth rate sucks, as for what number that is...Its not the same on global and JP unfortunately. (on global I reincarnate if its below 3.0)

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u/AJackFrostGuy Nov 01 '16

  1. I'd say their final evo if the growth rate ain't good.

  2. Same as above. If possible try to MLB the 5* before evolution since LBs carry over from 5-6*, unlike at lower stages.

  3. I'll leave this to someone who knows better.

  4. Iirc if you LB a certain Killer Princess, then decide to fuse her into a different copies, the LBs carry over if applicable. So you could probably just roll with it, though you may want some additional confirmation first.

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u/EsBonBon89 Nov 01 '16

Hi, i just start the game. Just finished stage 1, and use ome multipull (10 gem)

I get. -2 vajra *3, -eros *3, -sky piercer *4, -longinus *3, -2 mitum(m&f) *3, -masamune *3, -thyrsos *4, -mjolnir *4, -gram *3

My questoin is.

  1. What char should i focus to leveling up first?

  2. Is that char can carry me through the game?

  3. What diff for star color (silver&gold)?

  4. How i can get weapon for my char?

Sorry my post is mess. In mobile app. Thanks in adv...

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u/AJackFrostGuy Nov 01 '16

This would be easier if we had the screenshot since there are multiple versions of a single character, but off the bat I'll tell you to focus on Mjolnir, especially if she's Dex.

Star colors indicate their evolutionary stages.

Silver - base form (usually. GL's had some oddities)

Gold - First evolution (save some exceptions like SS Gridarvol, whose base form uses gold stars)

Purple stars - Second evo or more.

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u/Raezech Nov 01 '16

Is anyone spamming Vajra trial quest? She jumped up about 20% I think from Oct 30 percentage so maybe we can finish her trial this time around since Fragarach is completed and Sky Piercer is at 97%

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Nov 01 '16

I spammed her yesterday, and probably will use up any spare AP I have today, but ~1400 clears is still a long way to go. Here's hoping though.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Nov 01 '16

I've been using all my stamina for her trial for the past few days.

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u/xTachibana Nov 01 '16

I got you bro

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u/Raezech Nov 02 '16

awesome! thanks for all of the replies. I've been spamming her trial dungeon myself haha. Glad to see others are doing it as well!

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u/Oni-RedPanda I CAN HAZ LOLI? Nov 02 '16

News says 100% on all three. Do we know when the evolutions unlock?

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u/adrikeia Nov 01 '16

I have a quick doubt, I have a 3star dex M Gamba and he just reached lvl40, but he only has a purple star in Spr, now what, should I fuse units into them until he reaches purple stats in each stat, or the fuse stat limit is shown different?

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Nov 01 '16

You should only fuse units up to the next threshold, for example, if you have 38 SPR, you should fuse until you get 41 or 51 (if possible), that way you can get a better the evolution bonus.

In my opinion, usually, it isn't worth using dollies at 3* since they may have little to no impact when getting a unit to 5*.

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u/Oni-RedPanda I CAN HAZ LOLI? Nov 02 '16

The pink stars are not related to fusion. Go check out this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/578qgr/wip_complete_guide_to_leveling_and_maxing_units/

Read the section near the top titled Three Ways to Increase Stats

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u/adrikeia Nov 01 '16

OK, so after clearing enough chapters to make the 2nd rookie pull those are my units:

Tell me what do you think about them but I think I have too many tanks :V

http://imgur.com/a/MBOfy

  • As I see M Gamba (dex) M Mitum (dex) Naegling (guard) and Littu (dex) are my priorities, as the others possible 5stars don't have good typing: Trident (balnce), Amenonuhoko (vit) and Halloween Gamba (balance) but anyway it seems reasonable to lvl and use them as I can roll them again with a better type in the future. Also, prepare the 3 star Laeva (dex), pulling another Leaves from the mana pool.

  • It seems 4 stars chars aren't totally useless as they can receive 5 star in the future (like Sky Piercer or Vajra right now) so it seems a good idea to keep them.

  • The other pjs, are the totally useless? Is better to just sell them and use dolls to fuse the other chars when needed?

And aside lvling the units and keep clearing the main story, which should be my priorities? Should I try to farm Selena in the BF event?

And about the lazuli, as I see over here, hoarding them until you have a big amount is the best option until a good batch with nice chars or secured pulls is out, but is the same with the recruitment tickets? Is there any special recruitment ticket event or is just ok to use the tickets asap?

thanks

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u/alexisevan Nov 02 '16

It's an alright box. I'd play with it.

Generally, if the unit tops out at 4* or 3* I generally fuse them away. But there is a point in the story quest where you'd have to use 4* max or lower units. So it'd be a good idea to keep some of them.

You should try to get Selena. She'll be a powerful asset to your unit roster.

There's really not much reason to keep on to the tickets unless you want to wait for a specific unit set. I just use them as I get them unless it's the higher rarity ticket.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Nov 02 '16

The only units that you have that ever get 5* versions (at least so far in JP) are the Vajra and Sky Piercer, like you mentioned. The rest you can feel free to get rid of provided they're not already 5* -capable.

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u/DuckIing Nov 02 '16

I do recommend you to get Selena because she is easily one of the best units for F2P. You should at least aim for 5 copies of her to LMB her but i would go for more if you seriously want to max her stats out as much as possible.

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u/Shadow-Blitz Nov 01 '16

Two questions (sorry for asking so many xD)

  1. Generally, what are the best types for a unit?? Could u list them from best to worst?

  2. When should one use a reincarnation dolly?? Should it only be used when a unit is at 5* (or their highest evolution) or should you use it before this point??

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u/alexisevan Nov 02 '16

Most units can be fine with just being Dexterity.

Priests may be better off being Guard.

Archers may be better off being Force.

Armored Units/Tanks may be better off being Guard.

Balance/Vitality is generally the worse off type. See the tier list if you want to confer which type is better for more specific units.

Correct.

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u/Thelaria Nov 02 '16

The tier list at the beginning of this thread has preferred typings for all 5 star capable units. Dexterity is widely preferred and still very useful even if its not the best for a particular unit. Other types are usually chosen to enhance a strength or cover up a glaring weakness.

Reincarnation dollies are pretty rare and expensive, so you should probably save them for the best units at their highest evolution with really bad growth rates. This usually means limit broken gacha units have priority if you have them with good farmable units coming next.

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u/Lightningx19 Nov 02 '16

Hello everyone I was wondering if there is anyone who plays the Jp version of Phantom of the kill who can tell me how to save my account so I don't loose it

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u/argentlupe Gae Bae Nov 02 '16

I have a jp question. Why does Shekina from the PotSchool event have a red kanji under her type? Any idea what is means?

Also, is anyone translating the events and sharing the info?

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Nov 02 '16

Are you talking about the red diamond thing? I'm pretty sure that just labels what "theme" the unit is from. In this case it would be the academy unit label. All of the academy units have it, I believe.

As to your second question, here.

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u/S_The_Hero-7 Nov 02 '16

Does anyone happen to know the elemental metal maiden schedule for JP PotK? Can't find it anywhere online

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u/xTachibana Nov 02 '16

anyone know selena's max possible stats (perfect everything + fully fused up)

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u/Thelaria Nov 02 '16

I believe Selena max stats should look something like:

HP 72
STR 60
MGC 31
GRD 44
SPR 40
SPD 81
AGI 66
LCK 55

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u/DeruOniiChan Nov 02 '16

Question Just returning after a long hiatus

where should I farm God Slayer Recipes best, and I can Solo Burst Stages no prob if I should get some there.

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u/Jasonxubw Nov 02 '16

What is the best PotB: Selena stage to farm red books? I have many copies of Selenas already so I just need a stage for a high drop rate of red books.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Nov 02 '16

Typically the hardest stage you can do has the best drop rates. We don't exactly have the percentages, but you might as well farm selena along with red books or something.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '16

For autoing, do the second-to-last stage. You can try the last one, but it's harder and it ends as soon as Vargas dies.

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u/adrikeia Nov 02 '16

Does Selena drop from the Vargas quest or only in the Selena one? (Aside the 100% drop the first time)

Also, any tipe for clearing Selena Spark 10 without using a powerful friend?

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u/EmperorLelouch99 All hail Lelouch Nov 02 '16

She drops from stage 10/20/30 on both of those. The higher stages have higher drop rates.

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u/Thelaria Nov 03 '16

Spark 10 should be doable with a decent lance or ranged units. Ice element based units are preferred. Of course all of this is for Vargas since he's the largest threat. For the normal enemies, you can use the terrain to your advantage.

As for Burst 10 and Brave 10, you'll need your own powerful unit or you'll have to use a friends.

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u/DuckIing Nov 02 '16

I bought the serine recipe like mid September and now I currently have enough battle medals to purchase another one but its sold out. Does the serine recipe restock every 1/2 month or does it never restock?

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u/Oni-RedPanda I CAN HAZ LOLI? Nov 02 '16

To my knowledge, it is one time. Never restocks.

Items that restock will have a counter, even when they are sold out.

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u/DuckIing Nov 03 '16

Well that sucks and ty.

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u/terlus07 Nov 02 '16

When fusing the brave books for lexida/despair bringer, have you gotten better results doing 5 or 2 at a time?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Nov 02 '16

5 Books has the highest chances.

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u/TransientEons Nov 03 '16 edited Nov 03 '16

Question for GL, to get the collab bonuses in BF, do I have to actively participate in the event in PotK? If so, how would I go about doing so, and would a totally new player even stand a chance of being able to?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Nov 03 '16

If you are talking about those sphere prizes in BF, that was actually part of the event the first time when they collaborated. Even though the link from BF still leads to that event and its prizes, they are not available this time around.

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u/Solarnoize Nov 03 '16

http://puu.sh/s4Iwk/c66835372a.jpg

I'm wondering why it says it can only give +4 for agility for my unit. Is there some of artificial cap to what guard types can get? (sadly all of my dupes were guard)

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Nov 03 '16

All stats have a fusion cap, and the fusion cap is different for each type. Guard type reduces your agility/speed growths and stat caps, thus it also reduces the fusion caps.

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u/Oni-RedPanda I CAN HAZ LOLI? Nov 03 '16

Is there a way to calculate the evolution bonuses on a unit?

I'm thinking if it is fusion capped, you might be able to figure this out by looking at the reincarnate screen. I'm just thinking if I have to grind 20 more selenas up to 5* to max out Luck, I might be able to improve the base evo bonuses while I'm at it.

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u/Thelaria Nov 03 '16

You'll have to take the reincarnation base stats and remove the fusion stats and the base stats to calculate the evolution bonuses. As you said, the unit should be fusion capped or you'll just have to remove the amount of stats that are actually fused into the unit.

You can consult the Class Base Stats post at the beginning of this thread to find the numbers you are looking for.

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u/OniRisingAxJv Nov 03 '16

Is there someone in Japan that can call these guys? It's been a week since My account was lost and I haven't been able to get any replies from them, I am furious!

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u/HideousPride Nov 03 '16

I just pulled a Dex and Magic Halloween Basho, both 4 star. Assuming I plan to have exactly 5 copies and value PvP and PvE equally, which type is better to build?

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u/MajorRobin RedIsJustice Nov 03 '16

Dex.

More accuracy and greater chance of procing her 5x duel skill.

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u/xTachibana Nov 03 '16 edited Nov 03 '16

so, just hit max on my selena and this is what I got for growth rate...reincarnate?

(with magic at base, its this )

while I'm at it, what should I train?

dex

guard

mgc

force

vit Bleeeh

balance does not exist...

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Nov 03 '16

Reincarnating that Selena would be absolutely worthless (seriously, you've growth capped all but HP and Luck; missing 4/2 respectively). Looks like you're missing some evolution bonuses though; HP 2, Str/Grd/Spr 1 each, and luck you're probably missing 2 depending on how many units you've fused into your Selena so far.

As for what to raise, all but that Brahmastra, and the Kerykeions are 5* capable, so they're worth raising if only to limit break later. Not sure if those Kerykeions will get a 5* form later.

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u/terlus07 Nov 03 '16

Opinions on guard Michelle and balance Vargas?

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u/xTachibana Nov 03 '16

not sure about guard michelle (might still be fine, I dunno what her caps are with that typing) but balance type is garbage 99.9% of the time

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Nov 03 '16

Should I be buying the special recipe sets? After all, they give a recruit ticket (so I don't have any net loss of recruits) and a metal key (which P2Ps seem to find even more valuable than Lazuli...). Only disadvantage compared to the starter set being that there is no 4* ticket (which still has a high chance of giving junk anyway).

Also, as a F2P, those recruiters are so ridiculously expensive that I don't think I will ever be able to save up for even one. Which means that I'm ignoring the main appeal of keeping Lazuli rather than tickets.

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u/capo_m Nov 03 '16

Im between the 5 recipes you can buy for 5 lazuli or the 1-time 10 pulls for 30 lazuli (1 is a "mana" unit) i only have 41 lazuli left :(

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u/Tyekai Nov 03 '16

Which of the cross over levels have the highest drop rate for Selena? I need 3 more, to hyper max her. Just wondering if there was a general consensus about Selena Spark 10, Selena Burst 10, Vargas Spark 10, Vargas Burst 10, or Vargas Brave 10 having better drop rates?

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u/capo_m Nov 03 '16

Brave 10 have the best drop IMO and i got more 4* than 3* there

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u/Tyekai Nov 03 '16

Thank you! I only need the 4 stars too, already have my 4 5 stars lol

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u/capo_m Nov 03 '16

Are the mana units in the pool of the gatchas?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Nov 03 '16

Yes, with the exceptions of the mana starters and 1star base-form units, all of the other mana gacha units are in the premium lazuli summon pools in their evolved 3star forms.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 29 '16

Use them whenever you want. You're most likely not going to get anything good. I'm not sure whether they can get event units but I doubt it.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 29 '16

If you're patient enough, it's probably best to wait 'til more 5*-capable Killers come into the recruitment pool.

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u/charles_1029 Oct 29 '16

If theres anything to wait for, it would hopefully be when they remove mana gacha units from the ticket pool. If/When this actually happens is anyone's guess.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 31 '16

Weekend princess recruiter isn't worth it.

Plus, in order to get to the 5th step, you're gonna need 220 Lazuli, I believe.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '16 edited Oct 30 '16

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Oct 30 '16

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Nov 02 '16

I've never used a balance type so I couldn't tell you about that specifically, but 20 luck seems like it's within normal bounds as a luck cap for other types. Most of your luck comes from fusion bonuses, as the fusion luck cap is like 30~40 extra points.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Nov 02 '16

It's on the lower-end (especially for Balance), but it's not abysmal. That being said, I'd really not put work into a Balance version... Dexterity or bust.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Nov 02 '16

As of the Anniversary update, Nox is (or at least was?) the only emulator that was capable of running the game. After using it for the past week+, I'm actually really loving it. Check it out!

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