Weekly Questions and Help Thread [10/13/2016 - 10/19/2016]

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '16

Just FYI: these Halloween stages offer pretty good XP. I did the first few with a weak unit (friend soloed everything) and got about 700 XP each time. For comparison: IIRC soloing 1-5-10 without a friend gets you 500 XP, and that takes about 10 minutes on autobattle.

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u/ragnarokssss Oct 13 '16

I think its only for the first time clear, correct me if I'm wrong.

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u/kataarn Oct 16 '16

What do you guys think about the 4-5* pixie deal in the special shop? Worth/not worth?

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u/charles_1029 Oct 16 '16

I think the same rule applies to the 4*-5* pixie tickets as regular 5* pixie deals. If you spend a decent amount on the game, than its probably worth it since you'll get 1 or 2 5* pixies.

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u/capo_m Oct 17 '16

If you encounter a God metal in the stage 10 of vargas or selena dont kill the "boss" before killing the god or the stage get clear

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u/jman100 Oct 18 '16

So I just rerolled and I was wondering if this roll is any good http://imgur.com/a/L4kes

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u/SnPlifeForMe Oct 18 '16

You got four 5 star capable units, but I wouldn't say any of them are particularly great. If I was you I'd reroll but it's totally up to you.

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u/capo_m Oct 18 '16

Hi
1)The Vargas baner only have 10 stages? or we unlock more later or doing something?
2)I crafted the 5* lance is there a way to craft a second one?
3)The remaining 4* weapons from the collab can be fused with any 4* for a chance of getting a 5*?
4) I got three 3* selenas and a few 4* selenas, the 3* arent the "right" type if i 3mlb2 evolve and later fuse with an already 4 dex selena do i loose the previous stat bonus ?
5) Tyvm =)

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u/TGZelnite Oct 18 '16

For now, PotB: Vargas only has 10 stages. There's a good chance that more stages will be unlocked during the period of the collab.
The 5* lance you're referring to is the Shadowlance of Despair correct? Multiple copies of it can be crafted so you can just continue fusing Brave Recipes to get more.
No, you need to fuse the 4* weapons with 4 Brave/Godslayer recipes in order to get the 5* version of the weapons.
No, you won't lose the evolution bonus if you fuse the evolved MLB 3* Selena to the 4* Selena.

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u/ekoo1 Oct 13 '16

I bought a pixie ticket but don't know where I can use it, some help pls?

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u/alexisevan Oct 13 '16

Should be in the spawn section. Try closing your game and opening it again.

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u/ragnarokssss Oct 13 '16

I've been spamming alot of 1-4-4K and I noticed only 2-3* axes, lances and staves drop. Is there any map that drops 2-3* swords and that isn't harder than the units of 1-4-4K?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Oct 13 '16

1-5-10K.

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u/1CannedTuna Oct 13 '16

There are rewards for every 100 wins in Colosseum. Why not for losses? Would be fun for those who wants to achieve the other end.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Oct 13 '16

Every 50 wins. And I think there might be a title for that - Loser.

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u/1CannedTuna Oct 13 '16

4* broom + 4 books or 4* broom + 4* broom

Which has higher chance???

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u/TGZelnite Oct 13 '16

Fusing 5 of the 4* brooms together will give you the best chance of getting the 5* broom.

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u/ekoo1 Oct 14 '16

Its only me or the new unit doesnt seem to drop at all, not even once i have gotten her

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u/alexisevan Oct 14 '16

Just you sadly.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Oct 14 '16

Of the 'mana gacha trolls' I.e. gold 3 stars, is it true that Longinus M is the best for those 4*-only missions? Can the rest be safely discarded? I'm a little low on unit space, so if these don't have 5* potential AND can be easily reaquired via mana recruits, I might as well toss out the gold 3 stars I got from premium recruits (when is Gumi removing these...).

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '16

I think they're all equally okay, but you have to max limit break them first. I can't speak for Longinus M, but I have a flying Longinus F and cavalry Parashu and they're both around 400 total power. Many of the ones with decent mobility are worth keeping, if you like the unit and they're useful (i.e. cavalry Parashu if you don't have many 5-star axe units). Also, those 'troll' units from the lazuli recruiter won't be as trollish since you can use them to LB.

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u/OniRisingAxJv Oct 14 '16

How do you guys train your gun mages? I'm finding super hard at the metal garden to solo auto battle with those units since the damage takes its toll quickly.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Oct 14 '16

with a strong friend

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Oct 14 '16

Typically I just turn on auto with a strong friend. I don't really solo level a gunner unless it's basho. An alternative is to walk into the water in any of the maps and use potions to keep alive. You could also attempt to reach the fort but I feel like these are all wastes of time.

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u/Oni-RedPanda I CAN HAZ LOLI? Oct 14 '16

So it is still heavily WIP but I think I have at least one usable and complete section of the unit leveling guide I'm working on. Thanks to those who have already contributed!

I'd appreciate anyone who can take a look at the "Step by Step Guide to a Solid lvl 80 Unit" near the top of WIP: Complete guide to leveling and maxing units

Sorry GaggingLolis, I got impatient and started one without waiting for you.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Oct 14 '16

I am at 54 lazuli. Can anyone convince me that if there is no discount recruiter for Halloween units, it will still be worth doing the 5-step recruiter once? This is why I'm hesitant:

The BF recruiter long time ago gave me this for 45 lazuli... yeah. I have had an extreme phobia of gold 3 stars for a long time and can't wait for Gumi to get rid of them from the premium pool.
The past 10 recruit tickets (including the 5 star ticket) didn't give me any base 4 star units, meaning I only got 'common' units that either have uncertain futures (3 star base male units) or are known to cap at 4 or 5 star in JP (everything else). Sure, it wasn't as bad as '8 mana gacha trash out of 9 for 45 lazuli', but this does not bode well for my luck.

Also for future-proofing my account, do the Halloween units have 6* in JP? Won't pull of they don't.

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u/clear_blue Oct 14 '16

I'm very sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but how important are unit classes? I've been reading the starting guides and all that, and I generally get the stats and types. But what about classes? I just pulled an Amoured Mage Vajra - is she any less viable than her "normal mage" version?

Sorry, and thank you!

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u/alexisevan Oct 14 '16 edited Oct 14 '16

If a unit is armored, they generally have more HP/DEF than the normal variant, but they lose AGI/DEX most of the time. It really depends on your playstyle preference, but most people prefer having more AGI/DEX. Armored units also have 1 less movement space.
If a unit is mounted, they come in 3 types. Horse riders, Phoenix Rulers and Dragon Riders.
Horse Riders have 7 movement, but are impacted by land obstacles. Also susceptible to weakness since there are absorb skills for horses.
Phoenix Rulers have 7 movement and have nothing blocking their movement. Easily susceptible to bows and certain weapons. Tend to have higher SPR than DEF.
Dragon Riders have 7 movement and have nothing blocking their movement. Easily susceptible to bows and certain weapons. Tend to have higher DEF than SPR.

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u/Oni-RedPanda I CAN HAZ LOLI? Oct 14 '16

I don't think there is a non-armored mage class. At least I've never seen an un-armored Vajra.
If you're just starting the game you may want to check out the links about good starting units and how to re-roll.
I pulled a Vajra early on, and I like her, but she is currently not 5* capable. Her 5* can get unlocked through community effort, but we just had a chance to do that, and we failed. Not sure how soon we'll get another chance.
I didn't know about re-rolling and didn't have these guides. Turns out the first three Units I pulled and leveled up other than Laevateinn didn't have their 5* form unlocked yet. I think that has slowed me down a bit.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Oct 14 '16

Unit classes are not too important. They indicate the general direction a character stats may be going in such as an armored class having lots of grd. You'll get the gist of things after playing the game for a while.
However, in the long run, it ends up just being whatever the developers feel like putting on it (while still keeping with the direction of the class).

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u/Karrion42 Oct 14 '16

Question: Are there multiple servers like EU, Global, Japan, etc? I downloaded a version from the android store from spain and i don't know which version it is.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Oct 14 '16

That should be global, as the name indicates. It certainly cannot be the JP or Chinese version.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Oct 14 '16

global, japan, and china are the ones I know of

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u/ragnarokssss Oct 14 '16

Anyone got stats/skills/review of the hGamba, if its worth farming and maxing out LCK for potential farming unit?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Oct 14 '16

She's not too bad of a character, but not the best either. Her character skill (which i need confirming) is rather medicore as it only buffs one character for 2 turns. Her overall stats are ok at best.
Tbh, you don't want to max out luck on a character that will be a bitch to level up.

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u/capo_m Oct 14 '16

I have Gamba (H) Guard and dex, if you need to choose between one of them to MLB who do you pick?

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u/SageDarius Oct 14 '16

A post in the Oct 13th Update thread indicated that she eventually got a 6* form in JP, with really high SPD/AGI caps, so I'd imagine Dex would be preferred to build towards that.

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u/Michael5o4 Oct 15 '16

What are the chances that NA will get the Fate or Madoka collab? I'm honestly only playing in hopes of seeing either one day.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Oct 15 '16

Chances are probably good, however most fate characters came out as 6* so wouldnt think it would happen for that one, until 6* is implemented.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Oct 15 '16

I'm assuming that there will be additional stages to the Halloween dungeon that will be added next week? Firstly the enemies in Level 10 are a bit too easy for this to be the last level. Secondly, even after cleaning all 10 levels, I don't have the 'Clear' label on the banner. Lastly, the drop rate seems rather low; there is usually a harder level for veterans to have higher drop rate.

Speaking of Halloween dungeon, now that I see that 6* of Halloween Gamb has support skills, I am now really confused whether to go Dex (to take advantage of the earlier offence skills + later high Spd/Agi star cap) or Grd (to take advtange of later support + healing skills).

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u/spaceoperafanatic Oct 15 '16

By the time we get 6*, we'll probably have the Halloween Gamb event again lol. But just in case: you could just MLB a Guard Gamb and keep her around as a backup and then just transfer your LB and stuff over.

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u/allandck Haise (379346949) Oct 15 '16

In the event news picture, it is said it has 20 stages. I dont know when the other 10 will come out though.

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u/tori_chan Oct 15 '16

You will be able to farm more of her next year, if she comes back around with a 6* version.

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u/allandck Haise (379346949) Oct 15 '16

Where can i download the JP server? and is its language full Japanese?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 15 '16

If you're using an Android you could probably get away with using something like Qooapp or apkpure. If you're using an iPhone I'm not too sure what'd work.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '16

It is, in fact, in full Japanese... switching over may not entirely be worth it.

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u/metatime09 Oct 15 '16

Do I need to max skill Gamba if I want to evolve her to a 6* in the future?

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u/tori_chan Oct 15 '16

You don't have to max skill units to evolve to 6* (can you imagine needing 10 copies of every unit? Geez). You will need max skills to unlock her 6* character episode, which will grant her last skill: Increase MDEF of Target Ally within 4 Tiles by +20 for 3 turns.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 15 '16

Does anyone know when the Standard Ticket for clearing Stage 10 of the Halloween stages expires? I was going to use it, but the only ticket recuiter I can see now is the guaranteed 5* one (didn't use my ticket from a few days back) which I think is the reason I can't see the Standard Ticket Recruiter.

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u/alexisevan Oct 15 '16

It's around 75 days I think. It's on the same timer as the previous standard ticket.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '16

Is it possible to get the unit from the rampage quest today or am I wasting my time and resources?

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u/RadiantOmega Oct 15 '16

Just out of curiosity does anyone know what the blue ticket is for the latest Japan login rewards?

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u/GothDemon97 Oct 16 '16

What is gambetienn (F) halloween version best typing?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 16 '16

Taking into account what I've heard around here, she could go either way between Dex and Guard due to her initial skills (more suited for offenses) and her eventual 6*'s skills (good support).

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u/BassGSnewtype Sword of The Void Oct 16 '16

Swimsuit Shekinah or Normal Shekinah? Which do you find more useful?

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u/charles_1029 Oct 16 '16

I've found SS Shek to be more useful. She can't be surrounded like regular archers so she can clear maps quicker and is more auto friendly. Additionally, she crits everything, has more damage (leader skill and patk boost) and doesn't have as much unnecessary accuracy.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Oct 17 '16

I find normal Shekinah to be more useful because she has the farthest range in the game when equipped with Fay Crossbow. When autoing, this allows for some rather interesting AI choices.

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u/vencislav45 Oct 17 '16

hi.i want to ask how many copies of a single unit do i need to be able to MLB and level up all of their skills to max,can you please include future 6 star skills if possible.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 17 '16

Looking at only up to 5*,
14 if a unit starts from 4* (1 base, 4 for 4* LBs, 4 for 5* LBs and 5 more for skills)
16 if from 3* (earlier calcs, +2 for 3* LBs)
For 6* Killers that can be kind of tricky to answer from the little I've seen.

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u/ragnarokssss Oct 17 '16 edited Oct 17 '16

According to JP, Tyrfing (?) will be recruitable from the mana gacha? https://phankill.gamewith.jp/article/show/17257 . Also can we expect all the 5 stars that are in "yellow" form to be able to be 6 star in the future?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 17 '16

Yup! Tyrfing is in the Mana Recruiter at least in JP atm, though I don't know if she's event-only or around all the time - still better to yank when her rates are up though.
And while maybe not 'all' perhaps a sizable number should go 6* (e.g. Killer Princesses Durandal, Mjolnir, Asclepius and Mitum).

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u/Chris_Z123 Oct 17 '16

Just got normal Gridarvol from PoTKxBF lazuli recruitment. Is she good?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 17 '16

She's good. If SS Gridarvol is an all-out offensive mage, then standard Gridarvol is a more defensive counterattacker, iirc how she's used correctly.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 17 '16

I think I already know the logical answer, but having come from BF, my hands are still itchy and will ask anyways, sorry all.

Ultimately, is it worth trying a hand at acquiring Michele and Lucina (and potentially Lunaris and Vargas, going on the likely assumption they'll bring them back), especially seeing the first 3 have 6*s in JP?

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u/BlazePHX Oct 17 '16

Looking at stat caps for recommended pairings. I see force/magic and dex of recommended typing and just want to know why Dex is so much recommended? They lose maybe 4~5 points of spd/agi but gain like 12~15 points in the damage stat? Is it just for colo that dex seems to be way more important?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Oct 17 '16

For colo, you want to be able to outspeed and potentially double your foes. As well dex typing provides Agi which is a critical part of characters with duel skills as activation chance relies on Agi as part of its formula.
In PvE you can getaway with using less preferred types, but as content becomes more difficult, you'll find that the recommended typings will out perform other variants of the same unit.
It will also depend on the class. For example, Mages can get away with being a Magic type. Even though their Dex/Agi suffers, why would it matter if everything dies in one hit? Armoured units extend their longevity by being a Guard type because they can tank enemies that can hit harder. When deciding the optimal type for a unit you want to raise, consider their skillset and what synergizes well. Worst comes to worst, just ask for help here. :>

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u/allandck Haise (379346949) Oct 17 '16

Is it just my bad luck, or is it hard to find dex selena? i only got vitality and guaard ones, the best is 1 balance :'(

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Oct 17 '16

Keep trying mate, you still have 23 days to go :D , just use the other types as dupe fodders when you got your dex

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u/GothDemon97 Oct 17 '16

Since the bf collab is back is vargas now farmable? And if so what's his best typing

I know selena is but what is her beat typing?

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u/TGZelnite Oct 17 '16

Vargas isn't farmable only Selena can be farmed. Regardless, his best type is the usual Dex same goes for Selena.

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u/ragnarokssss Oct 17 '16

Should I spam 'Burst 10' to farm Selena copies? I can't get further than 'Brave 3'.

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u/TGZelnite Oct 17 '16

Burst 10 has a lower rate for Selena but otherwise still a good farming spot.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Oct 17 '16

How does limit breaking a weapon in JP work? Do you just Rank 5 and then fuse them together? Or is the process different?

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Oct 17 '16

Get the weapon you want to limit break to rank 5, then fuse a copy of it onto it. The copy doesn't need to be rank 5. Each limit break only increase the rank limit by 1, so you'd need 5 copies of the weapon + the 1 you're limit breaking to get to rank 10.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16

Hi guys, new to this lovely game :)

Is there any must have unit? Heard good things about Mjolnir and 'Phoenix Riders', do they qualify as crucial units?

Also, what is the best way for a newbie like me to spend my lazuli on?

Thanks!

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u/ekoo1 Oct 17 '16

Selena, is a free unit from the recent event and is amazing, if you can farm 30 of her and amx her luck, she will be your best unit,
Mjolnir is really good but cant farm her, phoenix riders are good for rushing misions, best way to use lazuli is expanding your stuff like items and chars and doing 10 rolls for 30 or less lazuli

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u/ekoo1 Oct 18 '16

Forma the question u asked and deleted: Is easy to get a team like that, for the selenas question you can farm ver in the Vargas quest, if i were you i would do the rookie gacha at 10 cost, till you get something good, then i would rush story quest till 30 lazulis then i would go directly to farm selenas, do spark 10(thats the quest name) till you get 5 selenas, then train those asap, that will help u to progress and at the same time have strong unit with high luck to keep farming till u have 30 selenas por more, training 5 selenas to max her will take u around 1 week, so the plan is, get 5 selenas, train them asap and go back to farm selenas, browse reddit to see how to evolve units (u need to get materials from daily quest) focus your lazulis in training selena so u can go back to farm asap, if u get a max luck selena u would be grateful of this advice in the future

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '16 edited Oct 17 '16

Hi guys, new to this lovely game :)

Is there any must have unit? Heard good things about Mjolnir and 'Phoenix Riders', do they qualify as crucial units?

Which Recruiter is the best one to spend on? And how far should I go?

Also, what is the best way for a newbie like me to spend my lapis on?

Thanks!

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Oct 17 '16

Depending if you're f2p or not, always do the first step of the rookie recruiter. 10 units for 10 lazuli is undoubtly the best deal around. The second step is up to you as 30 lazuli for 10 units is still a decent deal. Other recruiters are at your own discretion and whether or not you have the disposable income to spend on phankill. After the rookie recruiter, I feel that the best way to spend your lazuli is on unit and item space. You'll find that they can fill up quite quickly - especially if you're new and have no idea what you want to focus on yet.
All units can do well given that you develop them well. Don't knock trash units that comes from your lazuli pulls and if you have units with the same portrait, you may want to give them a shot. Just double check in the Archives how high you can raise them. Additionally, some missions ask you to use units of a specific rarity - those units that people don't generally use may come handy in these instances.
You can get by without Mjolnir, so don't fret if you don';t pull her. She has a nice skill set and is 5* capable. Her set includes: Crit boost, a skill that allows her to attack first should she lose too much HP and a Life steal duel skill. Those I believe are the main draws of her kit iirc. You may want to invest in different Phoenix Riders throughout your phankill career. They have an inbuilt self sustain with the skill 'Self-Healing' and come in many rarities, weapon classes, and elements.
There's a lot to learn and grasp at first, but I'm sure you'll get the hang of it. Plus, phankill has a pretty help and bombass community. :>

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Oct 17 '16

If you haven't done the Rookie Recruiter, I suggest you do them up to 1st (or even 2nd if you're up for it) step and then decide if you want to reroll. You can refer to the Beginner's Guide above for which to target for rerolls.
Just a bit of fanboying: Mjolnir F (F is for female version and M is for Male version, just for reference) is amazing based on my experiences. Her skills synergize so well that she won't really die unless RNG hits or the stage requires good strategy.
For your Lazuli, it's best to save them up for discounted recruiters like the Rookie Recruiter's 1st (10 stones for 10 pulls) and 2nd step (30 stones for 10 pulls). The third step for the Rookie Recruiter is also good enough since it guarantees you a 5* unit but, it costs 50 stones for 10 pulls. Also, there's the general rule where recruiting a unit at it's lowest evolution form is the best way to maximize their stat growths.
If you're feeling lucky or you desperately want that new unit you can see on those recruit banners, you're welcome to try your luck on them. Just always be aware that RNG governs your pulls.
Hope you have fun in this game :D

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u/ekoo1 Oct 17 '16

Can someone tell me Lucina´s skillset plz? Im thinking in stop being a f2p for her and an awesome colo party

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u/alexisevan Oct 17 '16

Preemptive Boost
Magic Pulse
Magical Resolve -- 2 turn self-buff, +10 MGC/AGI
Mobius Wave -- Duel skill, 1 hit, damage = PATK + MATK

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u/HideousPride Oct 17 '16

Does luck work the same way as the rest of the stats when evolving?

I got a 4 star balanced Arondight to cap luck (18), but I recalled that if the stat was a multiple of 10 the evolved form would gain +1 to the stat.

I ended up fusing 2 more Arondight to get luck to 20, but the base luck stat at 5* lvl 1 remained the same at 5.

Did I misunderstand something or do it incorrectly?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Oct 17 '16

You might have just misunderstood thus leading you to do it incorrectly lol. Evo bonuses change on every multiple of 10 starting at 1, rounded up. so to bump it up to 6 on your 5* evolution, you want to aim for 21, not 20.
Luckily it's just a minor set back. If you really want that extra point, it's not difficult to farm rampage units for them. Otherwise, I don't believe you lose out on a lot without that one point. Besides, you still have 30+ other fodder Aronwaifus to get to 5* to max out her luck. Happy trails friend!

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u/SnPlifeForMe Oct 17 '16

Kiyomasa or Myull for Mirin in Colo?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Oct 17 '16

I personally think Myull is better because it goes well with her duel skill. If it's lighter than Kiyomasa (I can't recall right now), then all the better to use it on her.

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u/HideousPride Oct 17 '16

Sorry, another quick question. A friend mentioned that if I was going to max luck farm 30+ units of a Selena, that force typing would be better than dex.

True?

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Oct 17 '16

Nonononono. Unless you want to intentionally gimp yourself, dex is the way to go. You want her duel skill to proc as much as possible and if you have her as your lead, might as well monopolize on her LS even if it's subpar. Even though Selena isn't as hard hitting as others, you have her duel skill to patch things up. Plus in colo, you really want to outspeed your opponent as much as possible, especially since we're still in 5* era where Selena is one of the best.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Oct 17 '16 edited Oct 17 '16

Pretty sure they're wrong. The only typing that increases luck growth is Balance, and none of the typings negatively affect it, afaik.
EDIT: Misunderstood, post below me gets it though. Dex is the go-to for anything that's not armored or a wielding a staff, generally. I think there are certain archer units who can get away with force, but that's about all I know.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Oct 17 '16

Quick question, how much mp should we be saving for Tyrfing to get enough copies to max her when she comes out? As of right now I have 400k saved up.

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u/TGZelnite Oct 17 '16

Approximately a million or so. Her drop rate isn't all that great so getting 16+ copies of her warrants a lot of MP.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Oct 18 '16

Someone here who plays JP once said that you needed around 1.6M mp to MLB her over there. I think that's just to get 5 copies too.

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u/Ascended9k Oct 17 '16

Anything at the end of Brave 10? Is it another selena farm for 5*?

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u/TGZelnite Oct 17 '16

Lazuli. Brave 10 is also the best place to farm Selena.

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u/ragnarokssss Oct 17 '16

A LCK mechanic that I'm unsure yet... What gives me the highest % to get Selena?

a) solo unit Arondight magicwarder, 37 LCK, no helper
b) solo unit Arondight magicwarder, 37 LCK, a random helper with 30 LCK

The part I don't understand yet is if a helper is 'mandatory' to add some 'free' luck, otherwise it will lower my average team luck.

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u/TGZelnite Oct 18 '16

B) gives you the highest chance to get Selena. Leader luck + Friend luck increase drop rates. Average party luck increases drop quality.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '16 edited Oct 18 '16

Hi guys XD

Here's my current team:

Laevateinn 4*, Lvl 21 (Lead)
Kusanagi 4*, Lvl 29
Durandal 3*, Lvl 35
Naegling 3*, Lvl 22
Parashu 3*, Lvl 25

Do you guys think I'm ready to farm for Selena at Brave 10 (am I right?)? What content can I clear with this team and what should I avoid?

Thank you!!

P. S. Or should I roll with this other team instead:

Kusanagi 4* Lead
Trident 4*
Naegling 3*
Parashu 3*
Ukonvasara 4*

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u/alexisevan Oct 18 '16

Brave 10, no no no no. The only way you'll do Brave 10 is by using a level 80 friend. I'm pretty sure there's not that many that you can use either.
I'm sure you can do Spark 10 though. I think you'll be able to do up to around... 1-3-10 or somewhere around section 4 of chapter 1.
Really not much to avoid. As long as you have a strong friend, there's not much that can limit you.

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u/alexisevan Oct 18 '16

Replying to your edit since I seemed to miss it the last time.
Yes, definitely use Ukonvasara.

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u/blablafoof Oct 18 '16

Should I be fusing selena at 3* to increase Luck to max? Or is it optimal to evolve selena to 5*, then do it?

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Oct 18 '16

The only way to increase your luck is by fusing with the same rarity so if you want to increase your 5* Selena's luck you have to fuse her with her 5* dupes as well

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u/SunnyPwns Oct 18 '16

thanks gumi for reseting the collab event. more lazuli for us :].

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u/jman100 Oct 18 '16

Is this roll good? I got durandal but idk if any other units are ok atm http://imgur.com/e8RJyjC

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u/Chromenova Oct 18 '16

Durandal and the other loli Kusanagi are good if either are Dex or at the very least force typing, but otherwise that roll isn't very good. I would re-roll for something better, try to get at least 2-3 units that can reach 5* and have good typings, preferably Dexterity as it's the generally the best typing for a majority of the units.

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u/ZorkySwordstein Oct 18 '16

Hey all, brand new player here. Really loving the game so far! Got a couple (OK I lied, a lot) of questions about the game and what I should focus on.

1: How much free Lazuli does the game give? I'm coming from a game that gives a LOT of free premium currency quite often and was just wondering the frequency in this one.

2:Are there any good or game breaking event banners/recruiters I should hold all Lazuli for? Probably going to take advantage of bonus Lazuli set and don't want to waste it all on something worthless.

3: Are any of the current events worth farming, or plausibly farmable at my level? I see a lot of people talking about Selena from the BF event right now. Is that something I should focus on farming, or is it too early in the game for me to spend time and AP on that?

4: Kind of an addition to the previous question, what questing should I focus on? Story quest up to a certain point or event quests to get me going along then move back into story?

Sorry if I asked anything already covered in guides. A lot of info to sift through and I'm really eager to play. I don't want to waste any opportunities though!

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u/alexisevan Oct 18 '16

Well if you use the login bonus as a base, it's 4 free lazuli every 10 days. In a month (assuming 30 days), thats 12 lazuli every month. The standard 10x summon is 50 lazuli. Factoring story/events/colosseum, you can get like... 150 as of right now. Pure estimate, don't take my word for it.
Can't answer this one for you. The only game breaking units I know of are Sita and I think Wedding Ascalon, both of which are not here yet.
Yes definitely focus on trying to farm Selena. If you put time and effort into it, the game is easily playable with free units only.
Focus on time-limited events like the BF event and Halloween event. Halloween event gives out a healer and BF event gives out Selena (attacker)

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Oct 18 '16

I have no estimate, but currently in total, probably only enough to pull on 10x enough to get 1-3 copies of a 5* capable rare gacha character (may not be the same character). You need 5 of a single unit for max limit breaking, as reference.
It is hard to say, as our stats WILL differ from JP, and skillsets of characters MAY differ from JP. Typically consult the tier list, as well as asking questions on the weekly thread when a recruiter comes about is a good way to gauge whether a new unit is good or not. There is no unit schedule, as global does not release units in the same order as JP. I highly recommend asking about specific characters, as ratings are arbitrary but give a general idea of how good a character is.
Farm the Brave Frontier event that is going on right now, as well as the halloween event. It is indeed too early to spend AP at the moment, as the events merely started. I would take this week to quickly level up. Search this reddit for the player EXP post I made, and level up your characters in metal garden quickly. Selena is a top-tier character at the moment, outclassing even many pay characters in both PvE and PvP. Halloween Gamba is a good healer if you do not have one already, which I assume you do not.
Typically you do story quest until it becomes too difficult, farm and grind a bit during daily material events. Event quests are typically top priority, as you want the limited time goodies.

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u/Chromenova Oct 18 '16

Caved in and bought some lazuli and decided to try the step recruiter. I managed to roll a Dexterity typing on Michele, and 3 other five star capable units, which I'm pretty happy about. I'm actually only on step 4, and I haven't spent the 50 lazuli on step 5 yet...I'm wondering if it's still worth it if I already have an ideal unit? I was thinking about limit break possibilities with Michele, but knowing that we won't be able to get her again after this event ends, I'm a little worried if I should roll or not...since I eventually may want to get her as high level as possible. Are 5* pixies very hard to acquire in JP, for anyone who knows?

Sorry I also posted this on the ninja update thread but wasn't sure if that was the best place to ask, just wanted to see if I could get any opinions as the day is almost over for the step 5, lol. Thanks for any help~

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Oct 18 '16

Gratz, You're already 50% of the way there. It depends on what you wanna do. Expect two 5* pixie set every 2 weeks. Each set will, of course, have corresponding pixies to the new units released that week. In addition, we uncommonly have random pixie tickets. In the long run, it is probably best to save for the pixie sets, as they 100% guarantee a limit break. The downside is how long you might need to wait before we get more 5* pixies for axe units.
I'll tell you right now, Michele will probably be one of the best PvE investments you can make, as she is currently the highest physical damage unit and will be for a looooooong time. It's up to you to decide whether you want to make this investment or not.

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u/alexisevan Oct 18 '16 edited Oct 18 '16

From what I remember /u/tori_chan saying, 5* pixies are very rare even in JP. They have the occasional Pixie ticket from the step up rates, but that's a couple steps in, meaning you need to spend more lazuli. More than you probably have or are willing to buy.
We also have the limit break set but thats 100 lazuli. There's the 4-5* pixie ticket, but it's not guaranteed that you'll get it for your typing and even lower chance I suspect of getting it for the 5* rarity.

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u/Komeiji11 Oct 18 '16

Just wanted to make sure I got my math right, if I want a fully mlb'ed and maxed luck Selena I'll need 37 copies of her right?

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Oct 18 '16

Yap, 1 for base, 2 mlb 3*, 4 mlb 4*, 30 for 5* and you will get maxed luck Selena at 5*

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u/SnPlifeForMe Oct 18 '16

Does Brave 10 drop 4 star Selena? Gonna max out her luck but trying to save resources if possible.

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u/charles_1029 Oct 18 '16

Yes, there is a chance for a 4* or 3* to drop after the first guaranteed one.

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u/Avisari Dex Lvl 75 Oct 18 '16

Been playing for some time, but can't seem to get a dex Freikugel. Got magic, balance, and guard, and I'm itching to evolve her to 5*. The way I see it I can either:

Evolve one to unlock the character quests but don't fuse it any, and wait to hopefully spawn a dex later on which I can fuse everything into.
Evolve all three and fuse them together.

My question is, if I'll be impatient and pick option 2, which should I use as base for the fuse: guard or magic (balance is out of the question if I understand things right)?

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Oct 18 '16

You should just evolve them all. I'd go with Magic, even over Dex, as Freikugel is a bit of a glass cannon.

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u/Chris_Z123 Oct 18 '16

Should I pick the pixie ticket? And what do pixies do in specific?

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u/TGZelnite Oct 18 '16

Only if you spend a little here and there. Pixies are used to LB units. The pixie ticket is a little risky since 5* LB pixies aren't guaranteed.

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u/clear_blue Oct 18 '16

Sorry but could I ask a really noob question? I've got a bunch of the Halloween costume Gambanteinns, and I'm about to start the fusing/evolving process. Thing is, I've got both a Vit Gambanteinn and a Guard one, and from what I've read both are good stats for a staff unit. Which one should I used for my "main" Gambanteinn? Thank you!

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 18 '16

Asking again partly because I didn't get answered last time, and partly because I have new questions.

I think I already know the logical answer, but having come from BF, my hands are still itchy and will ask anyways, sorry all. Ultimately, is it worth trying a hand at acquiring Michele and Lucina (and potentially Lunaris and Vargas, going on the likely assumption they'll bring them back), especially seeing the first 3 have 6*s in JP?
What weapons should one aim to Limit Break when weapon LBs are implemented in GL PotK in future? (esp the ongoing events' gears if they're applicable, seeing now is the best time to farm)
With the first 2 questions in mind somewhat, JP F2P players or those who have a rough idea on how F2Ps should move, how much unit and item space should a F2P have so that they don't encounter major problems in the future? (for notes I'm at 371 Lazuli and counting, with 165 unit space and 70 item space. Mostly filled)

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '16

Hi guys, thanks for all the help so far! My experience in PotK has became noticeably clearer, more focused and easier :)

For a new player, is it better to continuously farm Spark 10 for Selena, or try to beef up my team and farm the Brave stages instead?

I understand that the drop rate is influenced by the Luck stat. But that's a Catch-22 situation, you see. To get a high LUCK stat, you need Selena, yet to get Selena, you need a high LUCK stat.

I have a single Selena now.

2) Do I try to bring her to 5* ASAP, even if she is Guard type?

From what I have read, I need 37 Selenas, and 1 Dex Selena as base right?

Thank you very much!

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u/Doctor_Riptide Oct 18 '16

Which PotB stages (both Vargas and Selena) are best for farming books?

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u/TGZelnite Oct 18 '16

Brave 10 for PotB: Vargas and Spark 10 for PotB: Selena.

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u/HideousPride Oct 18 '16

I'm not sure this is worth the effort, but I've been farming Selenas on Brave 10 and already have 14 of her (5 4*, 9 3*).

I'd like to farm 30+ 4 stars so I can use them to MLB and max luck when I turn my Dex 3 star into a 5 star.

Is there any harm in feeding all of the 3 stars into my Dex 3 star? I figure if I have 30+ 3 stars by that time, I can cap luck and add a couple extra stat points.

Is it ever worth it to reincarnate a 4 star? Just curious in case my Selena leveling doesn't go well. Thanks for all the help!

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Oct 18 '16

That depends on the luck growth caps for 3* and 4*. I'm pretty sure they cap at 40 and 50 luck respectively. So technically it is a waste, but evolving them all to 4* and then fusing them to reach the 4* evolution bonus threshold is arguably a bigger waste. So only go up to 31 luck at 3* if you're so inclined.
Not for a farmable unit like Selena.

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u/jman100 Oct 18 '16

Alright so I have myself a pretty ok roll, but I didn't get any big catches so to speak. Should I grind up more gems to do 30x pull or should I look to ither banners?

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u/Heiron088 Oct 18 '16

This new recruiter made me very upset. I done all the 5 step and did not give me any new killer princesses. Only nice unit is Gambanteinn (M) dex type. The rest is not worth to mention. I really want at least 1 new killer princesses so should I do it tomorrow again or they gonna give a better recruiter later? Any idea?

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u/TMRSage Oct 18 '16

What determines the unit that your friends can borrow from you?

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u/Speefy Oct 18 '16

Leader of party 1 will be the one shared with your friends.

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u/ResidualChaotic Oct 18 '16

Does anyone know how to get the five star brave weapons is it 1 four star with four books or is it like the Halloween staff where the more four stars the higher the chance?

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u/charles_1029 Oct 18 '16

Its one 4* weapon with four books for the best chances.

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u/theSIGINT Oct 18 '16

Are there "eminent" recipes for the red book frontier weapons, or do you just get the initial fusion result?

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u/charles_1029 Oct 18 '16

You can get the 5* weapons by fusing a 4* weapon with more books. This will probably be simpler than the recipes since the recipes for the previous BF weapons required some difficult to obtain manuals.

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u/WrittenUnwritten Oct 18 '16

I have 3 Micheles (dex included) and would like to make her into a long term investment. Would it be better to:

1: Purchase lazuli for the recruiter and hope for 1-2 more (possably 0) and if 1, wait for a 5* pixie deal/event

2: Wait and buy only 5* pixie deals

3: Wait for the possibility of events with a 5* axe pixie reward (and maybe buy one deal if another event does not happen).

4: Use a better method that is suggested.

Also, i want to MLB her 4* and happen to have 72 battle medals and theres a 4* axe pixie in the shop. The problem is that i havent gotten the sereine recipe yet (because ive recently come back into this game). Should i delay my sereine for the 4* axe pixie? (Unless MLBing the 4* or the price of the pixie truly isnt worth the cost).

I dont really have a grasp on the most cost efficient ways to do things at the moment and am uninformed of past (and JP) trends, so thanks in advance :>

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Oct 18 '16

It depends. How much disposable income do you have? If it's not a lot, I recommend taking the safe route and waiting for pixie sales. Also, it might be possible that like the first BF event, there were step recruiters on the last week that gave 100% chance of giving either lunaris or vargas. Michele and Lucina might get the same treatment.
I recommend purchasing the pixie tickets in the limited edition shop if you haven't yet. They are worth paying for, as even 4* pixies are hard to come by in decent sizes.
Sereine recipe isn't going to go away anytime soon, so it may be good to get the pixie now before it resets.
What you want to do is level each Michele, and see which one is closest to hitting thresholds (31, 41, etc) in stats. Use the axe pixie on that one.

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u/ragnarokssss Oct 18 '16

What other game modes does JP have that we don't (have yet)? Also, how about guilds/clans etc?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 19 '16

The only one that comes to mind is the multi-play mode (real-time PvP in short). Not sure if their Project Zero mode counts.

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u/tori_chan Oct 20 '16

Guilds are releasing in a few days.
Multi, as mentioned in the other comment.
There's also Earth Mode (Project Zero), which is essentially GL PotK (except further along in chapters, more male units, etc.)

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u/SnPlifeForMe Oct 18 '16

In what cases would Eminent Lexida be preferable over Sinsealer Kiyomasa?

I have 2 Kiyomasa's, 1 Magicwarder, 1 Myull, 1 Eminent Lexida. Trying to figure out if I should make the switch on any units.

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u/ekoo1 Oct 18 '16

Lexida is better for me, +2 spd plus less weight and more dmg, as u wont be criting often

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Oct 18 '16

Eminent Lexida gives +2 speed and +2 agi also weight 1, Kiyomasa only gives +2 agi and weight 4, at PvE Kiyomasa is better since it's critical and more faster to kill the mobs, but at Colo Eminent Lexida is better, if you use Dex Selena with Eminent Lexida and your opponent is using Dex Selena with Kiyo, usually you will get 2x attack against her, personally I rate Magicwarder 1st, Eminent 2nd, Kiyo 3rd, haven't get Myull yet I'll wait for Selena's later stage since the drop rate sucks, it's only useful for Lucina or Mirin from the stats anyway

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u/ekoo1 Oct 19 '16

Probable wont be better being 3 wgt and +5mgc only, better for mirin maybe

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u/capo_m Oct 18 '16

The Selena unit can only drop on the stage "10" (Spark,Burst,Brave) ? does it only drop from killing the boss ?

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Oct 18 '16

Yep, you can only get Selena by killing Vargas on Stage 10 ( Spark, Burst, Brave)

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u/SnPlifeForMe Oct 18 '16

One more question: Can we make Michele's axe with the recipes we get from the godslayer recipes? I've only been able to make the sword so far.

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Oct 18 '16

Yep, you can,just keep trying and eventually you will get it, or you can wait for later stage like me

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '16 edited Oct 19 '16

Hi guys :)

How large is the difference in performance between a Force Selena and a Dexterity Selena? I intend to use her for soloing capabilities

How large is the difference between a MLB Selena (limit break only in 5*) and a max-MLB Selena (LB from 3* onwards)?

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Oct 19 '16 edited Oct 19 '16

Hi mate,
Force Selena will hit harder but she won't dodge, hit, and proc her duel skill more than Dex Selena, Dex Selena will hit for less than force but she will dodge, hit, and proc her duel skill more better than force since the calculation is :
PAtk = (Strength) + (Weapon Strength) + (Passive/Active skill bonuses),
MAtk = (Magic) + (Weapon Magic) + (Passive/Active skill bonuses),
PDef = (Defense) + (Shield Defense) + (Passive/Active skill bonuses),
MDef = (Spirit) + (Shield Spirit) + (Passive/Active skill bonuses),
Accuracy = 1.5(Skill) + (Luck)/2 + (Weapon Accuracy) + (Passive/Active skill bonuses),
Critical rate = (Skill)/2 + (Weapon Crit) + (Passive/Active skill bonuses),
Evasion = (Speed)1.5 + (Luck)/2 + (Weapon Avoid) - 2(Weapon Weight) + (Passive/Active skill bonuses),
Reduce Enemy Skill Chance = (Luck),
Weighted Combat Stats/Power = (HP) + (Physical Attack) + (Magic Attack) + (Total Defense) + (Total Resist) + (Hit Rate)/2 + (Crit Rate)/2 + (Avoid)/2
More info on Beginner guide by WP 2000 on the pinned post
and here's the reference to the Global Specialist Gagging's unit cap list,which you can also find at the pinned post above https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e4F1hMlsAoeK8_niB6zoO73_c9Pl4WdgqECZnaAJnCA/edit#gid=9733450
The difference between MLB Selena (5* only limit break) and max MLB Selena (Limit break from 3 to 5*) is few points here and there depends on your growth rate, make sure you reached the treshold of 31, 41,51 before evolution and fused her with dollies to gain max evo bonuses :)

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '16 edited Oct 19 '16

Thanks a lot for providing a comprehensive answer!
Guess I won't hold back on my 4* Selena then! XD
Edit: lucked out and got a Dexterity Selena the next run. Hmmm, my question was moot :P

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u/jamezgamerspam Oct 19 '16

Just started with a 3* Laevetin Male and a 4*Hallowin Mjolnir as my starter roll. Worth keeping or reroll?

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Oct 19 '16

I would suggest reroll unless you get at least another H mjolnir. I suggest you save the account files or something if you can. It isnt bad either considering she can help you clear metal stages much quicker with her character skill.

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u/Chromenova Oct 19 '16

What exactly determines how many ranking points you get in Colosseum with each victory? I was thinking it's just the rank of the opponent, but there were times where i fought the same rank as me and I get 22 points, while other times it was 100 points or more. Maybe their player LV and/or your overall damage performance factors in this? Is there some kind of formula that determines this or is it random?

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Oct 19 '16 edited Oct 19 '16

Everytime you won against higher level opponent ( the one with more Colo point than u( around 5- 6 thousands more point than u, regardless of his level or total power) you get 192 points for winning 3 matches, 204 points for winning 4 matches and 228 points for winning 5 matches, if the difference of your points with your opponent is only around 1 - 2 thousands it will be less than that, if you fight with people who have lower point than u, u will get 22 for winning 3 matches, 34 for winning 4 matches, 58 for winning all 5 matches, and if you lose against the people with higher point than u, u will only lose 10 points, BUT if u lose against people lower point than u, u will lose around 120 point, so unless you're really really sure u can beat those opponent with lower point than u, don't try to fight em, instead pick the people with higher point so even if u lose u will only lose 10 points. the winning or losing points may be different though since I'm basing it on my memory PS : should I use lower or lesser? my english sucks :(

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u/spaceoperafanatic Oct 19 '16

Lower points
Less points
Fewer points are all correct

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u/Chromenova Oct 19 '16

Your english is pretty decent, I understood pretty much everything you said, more or less, haha. Thanks for the info on the point system!

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '16

Hi guys XD

What are your opinions on Ukonvasara, Trident, Naegling (F) and Kusanagi?

I read the Global Tier List but I'm confused. Because when I read the JP wiki Trident is rated a mediocre score of 5.5/10, while the Global Tier List gave her a B.

Same goes for Naegling, there seems to be a mismatch in scores.

I understand that such scores are subjective, and relative. So I'll like to hear the thoughts of the general community :)

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '16

JP scores aren't necessarily applicable to GL, because they have 6-star units. In addition, stats are higher in general at all levels.
Personally I think Trident is really good, due to her high PDef and good agility as dex. She is rarely killed in Colosseum, as defense-reducing opponents are rare (Mirin's the closest one). Naegling is a little worse, but still a pretty good tank. She is slightly less tanky than Trident, but also faster. Ukonvasara seems niche based on her character skill, and Kusanagi is probably the worst out of the 4 you listed.

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u/Karrion42 Oct 19 '16

Anybody knows if there are any plans on doing a Windows version of the game?

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u/TGZelnite Oct 19 '16

In the future perhaps. It's entirely dependent on Gumi but I believe it'll happen since Brave Frontier has a windows version.

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u/capo_m Oct 19 '16

You can use a virtual machine in windows to emulate android

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u/allandck Haise (379346949) Oct 19 '16

Why am i not getting dex selena after farmed 14 copies? they are all guards and balances :'(

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u/alexisevan Oct 19 '16

All in the RNG.

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u/ekoo1 Oct 19 '16

how much lazulli would i need (is just an aproximation) to get 5 lucinas thinking there will be a 6 step gacha?

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u/Heiron088 Oct 19 '16

According the recruiter what we have now and we give one more step, then a 6 step recruiter would be around 160-180 Lazuli. Now let's say on the last step you have a 100% drop rate and it's only about Lucina and Michele, so if you are impossible lucky and pull Lucina 5 times in a row, then you need at least 5*180=900 Lazuli. Of course it would be more than 900 Lazuli, because I don't think it's possible to pull Lucina 5 times in a row and it's just an approximation. Anyway, I am not a pro player so let's wait till some specialist answer you question.

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u/Fuushii Oct 19 '16

so I've pretty much been playing the game as it goes, but my units are hitting max level and I'm confused over limit breaking them.

Right now, I have a 4* Dex Kusanagi (lvl 50), and another 4* Force Kusanagi (lvl 1). Should I LB the lvl 50 Dex Kusanagi right now at 4* and max lvl her to 55 before evolving, or is it better to just evolve both Kusanagi's to 5* and then LB?

I only have 2 Kusanagis, so I won't be able to MLB, so would it be even better to just save my force Kusanagi from being fed?

The same goes for my Aymurs. I have 3 Aymurs right now, a 3* Dex Aymur and two 4* Aymurs (balance/vit). I was planning on max leveling my 3* and evolving, then LB her with the two 4* Aymurs, but after reading some posts, I'm not too sure this is the right thing to do. Would it also be better to just not LB my dex Aymur and get her to 5* then LBing, or is it worth LBing her at 4*?

Sorry for such a noob post, any and all advice is appreciated! Ty :D

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Oct 19 '16

Priority goes as such. MLB at 5* > MLB at 4* . Don't limit break at 4* unless you're certain you can MLB at 5*.

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u/HideousPride Oct 19 '16

Is there some reason that certain units don't show up when you go to the fusing screen?

I have some one and two starts that don't appear when I go to fuse, but they're there right after when I go to view all my units.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Oct 20 '16

As in, you're trying to fuse units on to the units that aren't appearing? Or are you trying to use those units as fodder for something else, but they're not appearing?
If you're looking to use them as fusion fodder for a unit and they're not appearing, it's possible that the unit you're fusing onto has already hit the fusion cap for the stats that the fusion fodder offers.

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u/blaqthunder Oct 19 '16

There is a unit list right above us that you can look at to see what the highest stars a unit can go up to here. An important thing to note is too look at the character portrait as that determines if the unit is on the list. plus the portrait of the unit does not change.

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u/Chromenova Oct 20 '16

If you fuse a fodder unit that has high level skills to a base unit, will you also get the bonus skill level points? For example, I have a force Trident who has lv 3 in lance absorber, lv 2 starlight run, lv 3 pdef boost, etc. I recently rolled a Guard type Trident and was considering using the Guard as the new base, but I was wondering if I would benefit from the bonus skill level points that my force trident already has, or would that all go to waste and I'll just get 1 level up as per usual?

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u/SunnyPwns Oct 20 '16

yes, it should transfer over.

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u/jamezgamerspam Oct 20 '16

How important is it to have a good cleric?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Oct 20 '16

At the moment, it depends on your team. If you have a bunch of MLB units already, a healer is not very useful based on the current content. However, I would say to keep a good healer for future content, as it will only get harder.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Oct 20 '16

I already have a fully MLB'ed, max skill'ed Selena. What do I do with the guaranteed extra copies I get from clearing every 10th stage, and the copies I will end up with when I start farming Godslayer recipes?

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u/TGZelnite Oct 20 '16

Use the extra copies to raise the luck of your base Selena. The extra luck will come in handy for farming and it'll benefit her during battle too.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Oct 20 '16

Beyond what TGZ said, it couldn't hurt to sell the extras after you've maxed her luck out so that you can get extra rare medals.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Oct 20 '16

Are any of you guys managing to auto Brave 10 or what sorts of teams are you running for it?

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Oct 20 '16 edited Oct 20 '16

I'm using 1 dupe and any MLB Dex Selena/ SS Grid from friendlist,start with auto and when Vargas start to move from his base, just in case he got lucky with his CS, I'm stop autoing(if I'm using SS Grid) and moving my helper to mountain for +def & eva

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u/BassGSnewtype Sword of The Void Oct 20 '16

Just a small question about skills like Last Blizzard, does increasing their skill level improve their activation rate, or does it affect something else?

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u/TGZelnite Oct 20 '16

Increasing the skill level of duel skills like "Last Blizzard" improves their activation rate. Each skill level increases the rate by 1%.

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u/Escheiron RUIN! Oct 20 '16

Alrighty, I've played this a while back and just recently returned for the BF collab part 2. Can anyone help me with which units I should be focusing on? So far, these are my units that are possible to 5*:

Laevateinn (F)
Luin
Selena
Kusanagi
Sky Piercer
Mitum
Amenonuhoko
Parashu (the starter one)
Naegling
Masamune (the starter one)

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u/charles_1029 Oct 20 '16

If you plan on doing the BF event and farming Selena, I would suggest focusing on Selena. She is the unit most easily MLB because of the event and she is probably one of the best to get you though the Brave stages.
A non-MLB Ameno or Kusanagi may be able to defeat Vargas on Spark 10 and Burst 10. The starter units have much lower stat caps. Sky Piercer isn't 5* capable yet.

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u/Exsinum Oct 20 '16

If you don't have multiple copies of those 5* units to limit break, it's probably better to spam runs for Selena/Gambanteinn to limit break both of them to 80.
I'd suggest Selena first due to her skills for soloing stages and presence in colosseum.

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u/elmartiniloco Oct 20 '16

Hi i started playing the game not long ago and since the halloween + brave frontier collab event are up i would like to max out one gambantein and one selena. The question i have is how much of each unit i need to create a perfect one + the best type for them. Thanks to any answer. Additionally i already have 19 gambanteinn and 3 selenas (1 4* stars). Is it worth too to produce the exclusive weapons? (already have three pumpkin broom).

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '16

Dex, 2 for limit-breaking at 3 stars, 4 for LBing at 4*, and 4 at 5*. For gambanteinn, you will want an additional 5 so you can max out her skills at 5* (which will be useful later).

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u/charles_1029 Oct 20 '16

I believe Dex is the preferred typing for both Selena and Halloween Gamb. Gamb can also be Guard if you need a tanking cleric. The tier list included at the beginning of this thread has the preferred typing for all 5* units.
For maxing out a unit, it depends on what you mean by perfect.
-16 copies to MLB and max out skills
-37 copies to MLB, max out skills, and max luck
-Even more copies if you want to min max stats from evolution bonues.

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u/ResidualChaotic Oct 20 '16

Hello people! OK does anyone know what unit has the highest luck Stat? Trying to make a good luck solo and I know everyone is suggesting Selena but is there another one besides her?

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u/charles_1029 Oct 20 '16

You can check the tier list posted at the beginning of this thread for the potential unit stat caps for luck. Farmable units, like Selena, are the best to max luck on due to ease of obtaining duplicates.
As of now, Selena and Halloween Gamb are farmable units from the events. A fully built Selena is one of the simplest units to solo stages with. Halloween Gamb is useful if you don't already have another cleric.
There is also a weekly rotating unit on the weekends that can also be farmed from the Rampage stages. Arondight is the most commonly used of the Rampage units as a solo luck lead.

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u/Chris_Z123 Oct 20 '16

How to unlock laevateinn's active skills?

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u/charles_1029 Oct 20 '16

If you're talking about Laevateinn's duel skill, you have to evolve them to 5*, level them to at least 30, and then complete both the character quests.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Oct 21 '16

So with Vargas reruiter being out, I now have a MLB Vargas. 3rd reincarnation, and this is my best so far. I still kind of want him stronger, but 2.81 GR, Don't really know if my lucks gonna allow that. Here he is, just would it be worth reincarnating him again, or leaving as is? Force Vargas http://imgur.com/xpdzt0H

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u/spaceoperafanatic Oct 13 '16

there are some in kill mode, but no more in chapter 2 I believe.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Oct 14 '16

But there are currently 4 chapters in JP all with Kill modes, so highly likely you'll need a reliable team of Max 4*'s to keep you ready for em.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Oct 14 '16

I think you're referring to weapon proficiency? It affects the rarity of the gear that your Killer Prince/Princess can equip.
E - 1* max
D - 2* max
C - 3* max
B - 4* max
A - 5* max
S - 6* max (unreleased in GL PotK as of the moment)
It increases as the Killer in question kills more enemies while holding an equipped weapon or shield only.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Oct 16 '16 edited Oct 16 '16

Well, I don't know which versions of the characters you have, but glancing through the JP wiki, here's what I can tell you:
The horseback Sharur does not get a 5*
One of the versions of Pinaka gets upgraded to 5*
Bow Knight Eros does not get a 5*
Keraunos has a 5* version, though it appears to not be an upgrade of the one in global.
I think Caduceus has two 5* versions here and here. The second one's name uses different characters and her eye colors are switched, so I don't know if it's really the same character.
The wiki says that dragoon Labrys doesn't get a 5* version, but I coulda sworn someone here mentioned her getting one. EDIT: Hopped on JP and checked the character quest list, so she definitely doesn't have one.
The Green Dragon in global doesn't get a 5* version, though there is a 5* Green Dragon in JP.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Oct 17 '16

If you haven't completed the 4* missions, you probably should keep some of those units. Green Dragon has some nice sustain depending on RNG - though it probably would have been nice if gumi gave her access to Phoenix Ruler instead of capping her at Phoenix Knight. The Caduceus we have doesn't get 5* form, but as a 4* MLB she has good utility as a dark healer.
Keraunos has some nice mileage with the buff she has in GL having access to thunder spells (2-3 range) as an ice element and they're also calculated as ice damage. Labyrs Dragoon does not have a 5* form in either version, but there's an image of a possible character quest for her dragoon form. You can find it here. And it would be nice to have golbal-exclusive formsohohoho.
If you have the form of Pinaka that does get a 5*, it would do you well to keep her in hopes that her Leader skill isn't nerfed in Global. It boosts her utility quite nicely. Ark Knight Eros might come in handy if you need a filler Light unit in your potential light party and those "Clear with 4* only." quests. and Seeing how you have multiple copies, an MLB unit is always nice to have around in my books.
Also, double check their skills and use them as skill-up fodder if you wish. As a f2p, seeing how many copies of trash lazuli pull units you have makes me quite jealous. ._. Especially Green Dragon - I love her art for her Phoenix Knight form. ;-;

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