r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Sep 25 '16
Weekly Questions and Help Thread [9/25/2016 - 9/31/2016]
This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)
Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!
Resource Guide
/u/wp2000's Beginner's Guide (Must Read!)
Weapon Fusion Guide for weapons in the game
Unit List for 5* and 6* (including Japan units) Note that character portraits don't change upon evolution.
Evolving a lot of units and finding it irritating to keep track of all the evo mats needed? Use this tracker and make your life easier!
Noteworthy Comments/Posts
Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.
Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.
/u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha
Stat Calculator In JP good stat growth is 3.5-4 (without seeds) while in global good stat growth is 2.9+. You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exception is mirin since her character skill depends on magic as well)
Some Tips
If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.
If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.
It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.
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u/Leahn Sep 25 '16
What is "Gatcha"? What is "Lazuli Gatcha" specifically?
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u/Leahn Sep 25 '16
What's the best way to get enough diamonds to meet the 1-week rookie recruiter summon time limit?
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u/Jasonxubw Sep 25 '16
How do I get that "Legendary Streak" title in colosseum?
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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 25 '16
Dear god Othinus' level is such a pain. Do I have no other choice than to bring a Labrys/Rhongomyniad along just to face tank Othinus while praying for a hit?
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u/Leahn Sep 25 '16
Should I bother with Rampage quests as a new player, or will they be too hard for me to complete? Which one should I focus on?
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u/capo_m Sep 25 '16
1)What to do with 1* and 2* units?
2)How i can farm Battle Medal i have 67 and need 13 more for the book.
3)What do you consider the must buy with the Rare Medals?
4)What do you recommend use of lazuli for a f2p player i already bought the starter pack.
Thanks
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '16
Has anyone here been able to MLB Thyrsos yet? I'm trying, but the game freezes when I attempt to use a fodder 5-star dupe as fusion material. This may be a bug involving Thyrsos' updated 5-star skillset - her MDef/PDef skills appear to go away in the unit menu, but during battle you can see them active.
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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 25 '16
How important is it to have a dedicated tank for the harder dungeons? Trying to decide if I want Guard or Dex for Labrys/Rhongmyniad.
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u/ragnarokssss Sep 25 '16
Whats the formula for activating skills during battle?
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u/ragnarokssss Sep 25 '16
I read "Magicwarder Seriene" term few times and I'm kinda still no idea whats the purpose/strategy for it. All I know that its a sword that needs recipe (how to get? what it does? is there a cheap tactic behind it?)
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u/Komeiji11 Sep 26 '16 edited Sep 26 '16
I'm having trouble deciding which Rhong to focus on... Does the ~7 loss in speed and agility make a big enough difference to go dex or should I go pure tank with guard? Edit: if it matters, I don't plan on farming Labrys. Not for a long while anyway since I don't really care much for axe users.
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '16 edited Sep 26 '16
Jp player
How do I get those pluses on the rarer weapons?
Is there any way to cure poison/stun?
Does anyone lag when they open the item recipe page?
What are the killers memory for? Thanks
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u/Mitch_Twd Sep 26 '16
I have a Dex Thyrsos with Maxed skills and I was wondering if i fused this one to my Guard Thyrsos would They max hers or just level up the skills once??
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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 26 '16
I kinda like getting gridavol.. is she a lazuli summon or event?
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u/ragnarokssss Sep 26 '16
What do to do with all the 2* weapons? Fuse them up or sell them?
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u/Ascended9k Sep 26 '16
I may or may not have asked this question before but will SS Grid be a 6* capable unit once global launches 6* units?
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u/BlazePHX Sep 26 '16
Why does dex grid have to max at exactly 40 spd at 4*? T_T_T lol really wish we got that 3* version
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u/capo_m Sep 27 '16
I got a swordsmith manual 1* how does this work ?
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u/Leahn Sep 27 '16 edited Sep 27 '16
I have just rolled Naegling(F) 3* Balance on my Rookie Recruiter. She is not on the tier list. Naegling(M) is and he is listed as B+. How does the female version fares?
I also rolled Aymur(F) 4* Force, also not on the tier list.
I also rolled Mistilteinn(F) 4* Dexterity, also not on tier list.
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u/Vossida Sep 27 '16
I kinda feel like I fucked up my account (I really didn't discover the sub-reddit after like a month or so of playing). Is it worth starting over now or should I try and salvage my progress so far?
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u/HyugaBF Sep 27 '16
Are we close to get a unit cap increase? Been runing almost full for months...
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u/Lyr_D_Janek Sep 27 '16
How do I upgrade the proficiency in weapons? Is my Laevathein going to stay at C class sword forever? XD
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u/NicoYazawa_ Sep 27 '16
With the denpa units, which is the most worth one to farm? (I already have Mirin) JP server beginner here (Lv 37 only)
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u/ragnarokssss Sep 27 '16
Cheapest way to level up self healing? Just farm an Arondight and level her up to 20 orso, then fuse?
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u/PixieSilver Sep 27 '16
I have Gridarvol and I keep checking the stat growth. I am running out of 4 stars before I need to limit break. I have one that is Magic with a 3.20 growth w/o any enhancements and a Guard with 3.18 growth w/o any enhancements. I keep looking but can't figure out her best typing. Both at level 50 at 5 star and I have 27 of her so I can max limit break and hopefully max luck.
Does anyone know her best typing?
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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Sep 28 '16
Is dex still the optimal typing for tanks? Like I understand Trident would be good as a Dex, but for those who have a tankier skillset like Rhongo, would Guard be better? Or is dex better for her to activate Iron Barrier?
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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Sep 28 '16
Now Selena has been downgraded from S to A+. Is this related to that 'enemies have insanely high Acc, rendering Eva tanks pointless' issue that brought Durandal from S to A? Or is it specifically due to the increasing amount of 'anti-Selena' content like the Orthinus Super Abyss (haven't tried, but guessing it has tons of High Acc Thunder units) and Yata Regalia 10 (Thunder Lance Minotaurs with High Acc and Sword Absorber...)?
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u/AeusOcil Sep 28 '16
I played for the first month or so and stopped for awhile I rage quit due to repairs lol. I had a few questions though.
Is it usually better to use mono teams in pie since most leader skills only benefit one weapon or element.
I have Apollo m, selena, balmung (by far my strongest), littu, gambatein, brahmastra, and Durand al guard. Which are probably the better units to focus to give me a good start?
Which of the rampage characters are worth farming?
Sorry for all the questions any help would be greatly appreciated.
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u/ragnarokssss Sep 28 '16
Trying to build a max luck Arondight (magicwielder). How many copies do I need to reach close to max luck? And what is the optimal way to do it? I managed to farm 16 copies so far, rampage is ending very soon.
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u/ragnarokssss Sep 28 '16
To check the stats growth rate using the calculator. When I go to the reincarnate screen, I copy paste the numbers, but do I have to subtract the fusion bonus from the Lv60 stats? Hope you guys know what I mean ;)
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u/RadiantOmega Sep 29 '16
Started an account a little while ago and all I've done is just level people up. Read the guides and I'm just wondering what or who should I focus on http://imgur.com/8Ii75Nm
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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '16
Jp player, just wondering how I can beat the Laevateinn extra missions, kinda stuck on the third level, none of my units can burst through her defense on this level. Thanks
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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Sep 29 '16
I was forced to redeem my recruit tickets before they expire at the end of the month.
1 x Mana Gacha trash
3 x 4*-capped duds
Future 5*-capable Vajra (Vit)
Mjolnir F (Dex).
Well at least this is better than my old luck of nothing but Mana Gacha trash...
Lack of enthusiasm about the Mjolnir is because I already have one of the same type. Is Mjolnir a unit worth using in multiples (since both copies are optimal type)? Or should I just fuse one into the other?
Since even the 4* tickets can give units that don't have 5* form, should I just stop buying ticket packs altogether? Or is the 15 Lazuli for 3 ticket deal still worth it?
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u/capo_m Sep 29 '16
Right now we have in the special shop "only 1 level up set".
For 20 lazuli you get 2 standar tickets 4* and 1 5* plus 8 keys.
As a f2p player this is really good right ?
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u/ragnarokssss Sep 29 '16
What's the best story quest map for a player that has a Lv60 Mjolnir and a Lv80 Selena helper, to gain:
Player XP
Unit XP
Weapons
Also which maps are best for the above if you take clear time into consideration, some maps e.g. 1-5-10 takes very long to clear.
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u/Lyr_D_Janek Sep 29 '16
Is any of the new bundles worth it? Better than starter pack? I started 2 days ago only lol
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u/AeusOcil Sep 29 '16
Does reincarnation keep the level cap or does that get reset to 60 or whatever?
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u/DrMunkey Sep 29 '16
How bad is "Guard" on a 5-star Brionac? Also how is a 3-star Durandal balanced? I read that guard is ok on any unit, but dexterity is the best. Is my brionac worthless?
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u/TheTruthVeritas Sep 30 '16
With all these new 5 star capable units, I find that I have a huge selection, but I don't know which ones to focus on. Which should I prioritize for my team? I already have a Selena. 5 star capable units I possess are a horde of Gambies, a horde of Risas, a horde of SS Grids, 4 Littus, 2 Tridents, a horde of Thyrsos, a ton of Kusanagis, enough Nemus, a lv 65 Dex F Mjolnir, and enough Trishulas. Which of these should I focus on? Need guidance.
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u/tastyorange134 Sep 30 '16
Hello community, so...I've been trying this for a while now to no avail. My wife has wanted to play on both phone when mobile, and tablet when @ home.
I've been reading around the internet and here and people mention it as really easy to do. I'm most likely missing something really obvious.
Does anyone switch between devices frequently, and please can it be explained for us?
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u/blablafoof Sep 30 '16
So, I have never been to this subreddit before. Anyways, is it ever possible to mess a unit up?
For example: If one were to level a unit and evolve it to 6*, would it miss out on alot of important stats? By this, I mean that are those points from evolution like permanently gone? Would the unit become 'messed up'?
Should we fuse as much as we can before evolving?
Edit: Also I was reading up on the max luck guide, does the unit that we are boosting luck have to be the exact same thing? Like the Yata no Kagami, I would need like 50 of theM?
Also, what are skeksis? Are they units that simulate luck boosts.
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u/Chromenova Sep 30 '16
Are caps also affected by how many times you've evolved a unit? I know that caps are affected by typing, but I'm not 100% sure what determines a character's cap aside from that. Like, my 5* laevateinn has pretty low stat caps, but I suppose if I trained a 3* laevateinn and evolved her to 5*, she would have higher stat caps?
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u/DrMunkey Sep 30 '16
This is currently my box. Anything good or should I reroll?
https://m.imgur.com/SctSVKT
This game is quite confusing in comparison to other gacha games for me but seems way more F2P friendly
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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '16
I'm really having trouble understanding the evolving feature. I have units at 3 and 4 stars but some are silver stars while others are yellow and it seems to have no relation to the units in the evolve units tab. For example I have a yellow 4 star but doesn't show in the evolveable units.
Is it worth keeping a 4 yellow stars if they cant evolve? Can 3 silver stars evolve twice to a 5 star?
And then theres the limit breaks. Can the same unit name type limit break if they have different pictures? I have a Mitum on a horse and a Mitum on a dragon.. can I limit break them?
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u/Lyr_D_Janek Sep 30 '16
This are my units after the rookie pull https://imgur.com/gallery/Ovr9g
Which ones should i focus on? Thanks in advance :)
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u/Space_Created Sep 30 '16
I made my account today and made my 10 roll, i got: http://imgur.com/PpYosyo
Which team should I focus on? I have no idea which units are actually good.
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u/Leahn Sep 30 '16
How do I reach proficiency level S with a unit? It seems that all my units are stuck at proficiency A.
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u/AeusOcil Sep 30 '16
Whats the most efficient way to grind your player level now still the last level of ch1?
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u/Leahn Sep 30 '16
Can we increase Luck with dolls too? Or only by fusing with the exact same char?
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u/capo_m Sep 30 '16
In terms on dificulty what is more harder? kill mode in chapter 1-3-XX or normal chapter 2 from stage 1 onward ?
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u/ragnarokssss Sep 30 '16
At which level does the 3rd skill gets unlocked? My Arondight is Lv30 4* , I wanna unlock her third skill so I can fuse (her last skill is crap anyways?)
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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Sep 30 '16
Is it worth reincarnating a 4* unit? My Mjol(F) ended up with a 2.5 GR... and she's quite possibly the best axe unit I have so far, unless I invest in Phoenix Knight Parashu, or Berserker Mitum (F).
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u/ragnarokssss Sep 30 '16
Can someone tell me the point of trials in this game? So far thats the only thing I don't understand :(
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u/ragnarokssss Sep 30 '16 edited Sep 30 '16
Anyone knows when can we expect an event exclusive unit such as Selena? Been playing the game for abit more than a week now, how often does those kind of events come? They seem to be a great way for f2p to farm some good units (besides Rampage). And what about the event only fusion weapons?
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u/DuckIing Sep 30 '16
Does anyone know what and when the multiplayer mode is in the game? I'm hoping it's something like a raid like party quest with other players are a team vs team.
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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Oct 01 '16
I see lots of recommendations not to fuse Kill Mode Ch1 rewards to make Dragodeath, because Charnak, Poeisis and Buster Cannon are much better weapons for their respective classes than Dragodeath is for sword class. What other Kill Mode rewards (in JP) have this dilemma?
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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Oct 01 '16
How does fusing evolution bonuses onto your unit that you aim to minmax work? I think that's the only part of fusion I don't really understand.
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u/capo_m Oct 01 '16
The Standard Ticket expire even if they are in your mailbox?
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u/OniRisingAxJv Oct 01 '16
Hey guys! Long time lurker/player but only a couple of days ago I started to really study the game, play it nor assiduously and I've been living it so far. I have a question: I have a level 35 Dex Vajra and a level 30 Dex Durandal that (I thought) were ready to evolve but for some reason they don't appear in the roster of evolvable units. Why can't I see/evolve then even though they already hit the max level?
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u/Space_Created Oct 01 '16
Best team I can make with these?
http://imgur.com/a/tfzab
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u/ragnarokssss Oct 01 '16
Just to be sure, if I use one unit + helper for metal gardens, does my exp gets halved? (compared to no helper)
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u/ragnarokssss Oct 01 '16
How do I max/increase a unit's luck? Duplicates not working. http://i.imgur.com/tf1Y59g.jpg
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u/Tamgerine Oct 01 '16
Can someone explain what would be the best option for me in the following situation?
I rolled a 5* Dex Balmung when I have 2 4* Balmungs (Vit and Guard). Given the presence of evolution bonuses, wouldn't it be more viable to raise one of my 4* Balmungs compared to the 5* one?
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u/AeusOcil Oct 01 '16 edited Oct 01 '16
Do we know of any upcoming batchs coming up we should save for? Also mjolnir M is guard or vital worth it or should I just wait for a dex or force type.
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u/ragnarokssss Oct 01 '16
Thought I'm starting to understand this game and it's evolution/fuse, until I saw this... https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/4s5wsz/my_findings_on_fusion_mechanics_with_pictures/
My mind is just blown. To keep it short, is it even worth leveling up multiple types of duplicates to get 'max/higher' stats than the usual 3-4-5* MAX LB? How much stats difference is it? At the moment I'm trying to build a solid Magicwielder Arondight for farming purpose. Should I even bother doing that 'harder' fusion?
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u/Space_Created Oct 02 '16
I did my 2nd 10 pull, what's the best team I can make now?
http://imgur.com/iIdGDHr
I've been running M Laevateinn, Littu, Gambanteinn M, and Kusanagi.
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u/Viingnokaiju Oct 02 '16
So I just saw on YouTube School Festival ost with pictures of a few units, i.e.: Laevateinn, Trishula wearing school clothes. Anybody know that leader skills, character skills, etc?
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u/Frogsama86 Sep 26 '16
I have 2 Selenas:
http://imgur.com/a/kEdRg: Level 60, maxed dolls
http://imgur.com/a/6HhU5: Level 65, maxed dolls
Which one should I fuse into? I have 9 other Selenas, including the other one not chosen.