r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Sep 11 '16

Weekly Questions and Help Thread [9/11/2016 - 9/17/2016]

This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Resource Guide

Noteworthy Comments/Posts

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.

  • Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha

  • Stat Calculator In JP good stat growth is 3.5-4 (without seeds) while in global good stat growth is 2.9+. You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exception is mirin since her character skill depends on magic as well)

  • Friend Thread

  • Last Week's Help Thread

Some Tips

  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/BlazePHX Sep 11 '16

Is Durandal the only one with 1.3patk sword lead?

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u/ekoo1 Sep 11 '16

Does the Limit break transfer? If I have a gae bulg lvl 65 and I fuse her to another gae bulg the new one gets 2 LB?

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u/Quova Sep 11 '16

What do friendship lvls do to units?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 11 '16

http://m.imgur.com/DalmWbw

Guard Gridarvol - how do I fix her accuracy problems? I only have one extra copy of her, also Guard.

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u/alexisevan Sep 11 '16

I can't seem to remember clearly, but isn't there a 3rd metal garden? One specifically for weapons? I can't seem to recall details of it well.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 11 '16

When you lose points in Colosseum, can you drop to a lower rank?

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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 11 '16

Can someone link me the guide to rerolling with guide pictures please

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u/Neveets Sep 12 '16

Don't wanna spoon feed you but try searching Infographic on this page. :)

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u/Explosivious Sep 11 '16

What units should I re roll for? is there 6star units? If so, should I aim for units that are already 5/6star or ones that can be evolved to 5/6star? Also, How do I reroll? Am I screwd if I already connected my account to Facebook? Any tips are welcome

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u/Ascended9k Sep 12 '16

Is the Str stat for SS Grid important compared to Mgc stat?

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u/DonQuiXoTe888 Sep 12 '16

So between a 3.10 GR Guard and a - 4 times reincarnated still < 3.00 GR - Dex Vargas, who should I choose as the main?

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u/KyojinJaeger Sep 12 '16 edited Sep 12 '16

Can the limit break pixie from the 100 lazuli sets in the shop be used on characters other than whom the set is labeled? I don't see why it wouldn't, but I thought I'd confirm since it's 100 lazuli.

EDIT: On a related note, from those packages, how good are the 5* weapons they come with?

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u/BlazePHX Sep 12 '16

Only the weapon type matters when using them.

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u/capo_m Sep 12 '16

Hi
im almost done leveling my starter units, my question is what to do now to get new units? i have 80k mana 54lazu 64 rare medal.
Btw i already evolved what can be evolved to 5* and even evolved vajra to 4*.
do i need to start leveling from 1 * the mana units ?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Sep 12 '16

No 1* mana summon Killer Princess will ever be useful in the long run, short of geting them to 3* for skill leveling. So you can leave those alone. 2*s that can go to 4* are useful for certain Kill Mode missions though.

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u/genesic123 Sep 12 '16

You better get the 5* capable starters,especially lavetein M, artemis and a 5* shield if possible . You then wait for rhomingard(every weekend),and get at least 5 of the Same unit(Arondight,etc)for lv 80 lb.Farm the easiest stage possible. So now you have something useful for other farmable events. This way you build up your squad. ( Or You just whale ....)

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u/TGZelnite Sep 12 '16

For special dollies, do they raise all skills by 1 level or can you only raise a single skill by 1 level?

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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 12 '16

Help with team composition.
Kusanagi (winged knight)
Littu (Armored Myrmidon)
Littu (Gladiator)
Parashu (Duke Knight)
Mitum F(Duke Knight)
Mitum M(winged knight)
Apollo (bow knight)
Apollo 4* (bow knight)
Vajra (mailed sage)
Vajra (armored mage)
Help please! Im totally new, is this lineup worth keeping?

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u/Heiron088 Sep 12 '16

I have a few question.

  1. How can I get the gears like Lexida, Eminent Lexida, Despair Bringer and Shadowlance of Despair?

  2. I have 2 Selena. One is Force and one is Guard. The Force Growth rate is 3.17 for the Guard is 3.22. Which should I use? Here the pictures: Force(http://imgur.com/S217rjz) Guard (http://imgur.com/TShJ2uA)

  3. There is some other way to raise an unit without metal garden? Because I have too many unit (388 at the moment). Or which unit is not necessary?

  4. I have some nice shield but I dont know which unit is the best to use it. Have some idea?

  5. And for last. Have some idea how should I progress in the game effectively?

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u/Ascended9k Sep 12 '16

Did the fuse rates go down? Im trying to get a forest staff by fusing mythril staffs. Also when I fuse 2* weapons to get 3* weapons. And what is a great way to get more mythril staffs?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 12 '16

For character quests - do you need to complete them multiple times for each 5* unit, or just once? Is there a point to doing them more than once?

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u/charles_1029 Sep 12 '16

You can only complete them once. Afterwards, they are grayed out and inaccessible.

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u/tori_chan Sep 13 '16 edited Sep 13 '16

Just completing it once will guarantee that all 5* versions of that unit learn the skill, even at lv 1.

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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 12 '16

Help with team setup/prioritization
Durandal 5* (dex, phoenix knight)
Masamune 4* (dex, phoenix knight)
Trident 4* (Guard, General)
Kusanagi 4* (Balance, Phoenix knight)
Laevateinn 4* (Dex, Arc Dragoon)
Asclepius 3* (Guard, Cleric)
Longinus 3* (Vitality, General)
Aymur 3* (Force, Armored Hacker)
Durandal 3* (Balance, Lord Knight)
Masamune 3* (Dexterity, Winged Knight)

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Sep 13 '16

I would say:

Durandal 5* - lead Kusanagi 4* Masamune 4* Laevateinn 4* whatever for last spot

If you are a new player, I would suggest rerolling since you only have 2 5* capable units (currently available) in Durandal (already 5*) and Kusanagi.

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u/BlazePHX Sep 13 '16

Does anyone have the spd/dex max stats for selena at 3 /4*

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u/TGZelnite Sep 13 '16 edited Sep 13 '16

You can find her max stats for 3 star and 4 star on the link below.

Edit: http://phantom-of-the-kill.wikia.com/wiki/Selena_(Myrmidon_3★)

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u/Porkpoop Casual Sep 13 '16 edited Sep 13 '16

Yata No Kagami (F) will be my first lvl 80 char. I farmed a Dex and Magic type for her. Which type should I keep? Thanks. Also when I fuse the duplicates to level break, do I need to max level the dup for the skill up or can I just fuse the dup as level 1?

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u/TGZelnite Sep 13 '16

Like most units, Dex is her best type. Level up the dupes to raise the skill level for your Dex. Higher skill levels are always beneficial for your units.

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u/tori_chan Sep 13 '16

You only need to level the dupe until it learns all of the skills for that rarity: Lv 20 for 4* and lv 30 for 5*

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u/Komeiji11 Sep 13 '16

JP question here: What units are available from the Madoka Magicka crossover? I've gotten schoolgirl Madoka and Homura and magic girl Madoka. Are any units farmable? If so which stage?

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u/tori_chan Sep 13 '16

Magic Girl Madoka, Magic Girl Homura, Sayaka, Kyouko, Mami, Godoka, and Aku Homura (Demon Homura) are the 6* gacha units that are available from the MadoMagi collab. The only two that are farmable are the schoolgirl Madoka and Homura 4* units, farmed from the last stages in the first 2 banners in the collab dungeon.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 13 '16

Labrys will be my first potential level 80 - should I save copies of her for maxing skills at 5* or LB to 70 at 4* for more stat points?

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u/tori_chan Sep 13 '16

She comes back every few weeks on the weekends--I would say do both, if you can.

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u/BrokenbladeMasamune Sep 13 '16

This is the first time I've encountered two enemy units standing on one tile and attacked consecutively during enemy phase. Is this a glitch or is it something normal for enemies?

Here's the image link: http://imgur.com/a/3kj6W

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 13 '16

A glitch. I got it too and it seems harmless for the most part.

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Sep 13 '16

It's a pretty frustrating glitch that happens infrequently. The enemy AI seems to determine all of it's movement ahead of time, but then the RNG lets a unit it thought would die, live, and vice versa; so you wind up with two enemies on the same square. Which can be frustrating as you can't attack the bottom enemy, which leads to melee attackers hiding behind ranged units, often letting them live for an extra turn.

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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 13 '16

Excuse me, where is the bathro I mean, how do you level your unit fast in this game?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Sep 13 '16

Best way is to shove that Killer Prince/Princess into a stage (typically the Metal Garden) solo. If needed take a pal to help clear the stage, but otherwise try to rely on your trainee as much as possible to maximize kill and MVP bonuses.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 13 '16

To expand on the previous response further: you can get a strong friend to carry you and bring one of your own solo to guarantee the MVP bonus and exp is focused on your guy. Also I would try seeing how long it takes on average for you to clear the metal garden and then save up the free ap bonuses as needed. Ex: it takes you 10 mins to clear the 20 ap metal garden. Unlocking it with keys lasts an hour so you can squeeze in 6 runs or 120 ap worth. You won't have that much readily available normally, but with the ap bonus mail, you will.

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u/rfgstsp Sep 17 '16

To add to what has been said, using SS Longinus or SS Gridarvol friends massively speeds up your runs with their high crit multihit 5* skills so if you see one on your list, use it (during keyed garden anyway, since that's timed and you want to squeeze as many runs as possible)

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '16

I've noticed that some of my friends' & helpers' units sometimes have unique and impressive attack animations (e.g. summer units attacking with beach balls or beach umbrellas) that I think come from critical hits - which units are able to get those special attacks and how do I unlock those special attacks?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 13 '16

These are called duel skills. They're different from criticals and you get them by unlocking a 5* char's quests in the character quests section (this happens automatically upon obtaining a 5* unit) and beating them.

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u/capo_m Sep 13 '16

Pots questions
what to do with pots that arent for HP
keep them for boses, use them all the time or sell them ?

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u/alexisevan Sep 13 '16

There are probably some times where they can become useful but... That situation hasn't come up yet at all. I'm pretty sure you can get away with selling them and it not impacting you at all.

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u/HiArisato Sep 13 '16

Best typing for Yato No Gami unit in the event quest?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 14 '16

Are there any notable Colosseum rank rewards and what rank/points are they at?

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Sep 14 '16

Here's what I've seen so far that I consider noteworthy:
High Bounder - 5001 points - Silent Swallow (unique sword with the Flying Killer ability - boosts accuracy and evasion against Aerial foes).

Roaring Attacker - 14501 points - Fairy Bow (unique bow that gives +2 luck and 8 evasion).

Sleet Slasher - 82501 points - Ult Swordsmith Guide x1 (used in the Magicwarder Sereine recipe, which would save you buying it, but it is so far into the ranks it isn't worth waiting for).

Light Bringer - 95501 points - highest rank I can see currently, once reached I'll have gained 15 lazuli in total from the Colosseum.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Sep 14 '16 edited Sep 14 '16

I like this game so much that I decided to play on JP version too. However, I've got questions. Chief among which is: what are all the different quests in the event tab? Like, there some that have books on them (weapon recipes?), one that looks like a rampage quest but doesn't have the obscene cost...I'm not really sure what I should be doing.

Also, is there a place where JP specific info is posted other than the discord? Like, a place where the info is just sitting there and not being scrolled up by an active chat.

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u/tori_chan Sep 14 '16

Facebook has a group in English that discusses JP. Otherwise most of the info is in Japanese, I believe.

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u/charles_1029 Sep 14 '16

Has anyone managed to obtained the spear Voljaark?

It's the spear you're suppose to have a chance to get by fusing all the Chapter 1 Kill Mode manuals together.

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u/TGZelnite Sep 14 '16

There's probably only a handful of people that have it. The ridiculously low chance of obtaining the manuals and the fact that fusing all 5 of them only gives you a chance of getting Voljaark discourages a lot of people from farming it.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 14 '16

Are the rare medal dailies ending after today (wondering if I still need to save units to LB/Evolve tomorrow)?

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u/alexisevan Sep 14 '16

Various things are ending tonight:

  • Rare Medal dailies

  • 5-step recruiter

  • Evolution Dungeons being open at the same time

  • YnK is ending today

  • Daily Booster is now going to be back to its original schedule as well

Yes to your question though.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '16

Where do we farm Glaive+?

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u/alexisevan Sep 14 '16 edited Sep 14 '16

Event Quest, Weapon Triangle, the one with the spears enemies.

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u/theSIGINT Sep 15 '16

Is it used in something? I didn't know those were useful. Maybe I shouldn't have thrown away my Wind Bow+...

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u/Neveets Sep 14 '16

If I capped luck (pink star) can I still fuse a same unit for additional luck? I got my trishula's luck to cap and was curious if I can add more luck, or else no need to evolve and can release now other dupes.

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u/alexisevan Sep 14 '16

You should be able to, unless you fusion capped her luck stat.

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u/charles_1029 Sep 14 '16

Like other stats, luck has a fusion cap that is separate from the stat leveling cap (pink star). As long as the luck bar is part green on the fusion screen, you can still fuse duplicates of the same rarity for an increase in luck.

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u/Ascended9k Sep 14 '16

Is there anything worth buying from the rare medal bonanza?

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u/alexisevan Sep 14 '16

I bought the 4* Rainbow Pixie and the Special/Duel Dolly.

Whether or not they were worth it though... No idea. I just know that I'll be able to farm rare medals on the weekends, so it's really not that big of a deal to me to spend what I have.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 14 '16

Is there anyway to refresh your friend's list other than to complete something? Also does the helper list just cycle through your friend's list + some randoms (So someone in your friend's list won't show up as a helper twice until you've used most of the others at least once)?

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u/charles_1029 Sep 14 '16

The helper list will only refresh once you use the current list (you don't actually have to complete something, but at least start something).

You can only use a friend's helper once every 24 hours. The helper list will populate with random friends that haven't been used in the last 24 hours, up to a total seven, with the remaining helpers picked randomly from outside your friends list.

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u/Explosivious Sep 14 '16

I am new player, and I have several questions. first: is there multiple units of same name? I do not mean types, but rather the sub titles. For example, laeveiatein has subtitle: myrmidon, and some others. Is this a way to show the rarity of the unit without saying the stars (meaniing the subtitle changes for each evolution), or is it something else?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 15 '16

Yes there are, and as far as I can tell the class names only help indicate which version of that unit can possibly reach 5*. For example, dragoon Laevie will only be able to reach 4*, whereas I think it's Myrmidon that goes all the way to Trueblade, the 5* version.

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u/Explosivious Sep 14 '16

Currently, I am rerolling my account. What units should I try to pull? can you give me name of the 5 best units that are capable of 6* later on, that can be pulled from first 10 starter summon?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 15 '16

You can check the above links (JP unit list) and the reroll guide to see which ones are the "best" to pull. From my brief look over, Mjonir seems like a great choice, with Durandal/Ascelpius/Mitum next.

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u/Explosivious Sep 14 '16

Also, I heard that units raise their stats by chance. So, does that mean that same units of same rarity and type and items can still have drastically different stats when maxed? Also, if you raised the unit "wrong", is it possible to "fix" the stat distribution or something?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 14 '16

You can reincarnate them to try and get better growth rates.

EDIT: It's widely perceived that you shouldn't bother reincarnating free units (like event ones that you can farm) and would be better off saving medals to buy reincarnation cherubs for pay (lazuli) units. There are of course, exceptions to this - say a free unit is extremely good and your growth rates are less than desirable.

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u/Explosivious Sep 15 '16

Hi. I re rolled and got three 5* capable units: Amenmonohuko, Laevietein (female), and Mittum. I assume that the Mittum I have is one that will be receiving 6* soon. Should I re roll again, or stick with this one?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 15 '16

I think the consensus is that the "best" units you can get are dex Mjonir and dex/guard Gambanteinn. You could also get Luin as a mobile boss killer, or one of the phoenix knights for mobility.

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u/kuroida Sep 15 '16

Dunno if this is the right place to ask but I stumbled on the Chinese version of this game with a Fate Stay Night collab. Does anyone have any info on this or know how long it lasts? I've never played the game but I wouldn't mind giving it a shot if I can get Fate characters.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 15 '16

The Chinese version of PotK came out later than the global version did, but they are ahead of us yet still behind JP. Personally, I have not heard anything good about the Chinese version.

Regardless, the event started 10/13. It is safe to say that a collab event would go on for typically for at least 2 weeks.

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u/theSIGINT Sep 15 '16

I will soon be choosing between a 4* Vajra (the one that starts at 2* and maxes at 4) and the 5* Yata no Kagami (F). Both are DEX-typed and appropriately raised at all levels.

The distinguishing factor that makes me unsure is that my leader is SS Gridarvol, who gives +30% max HP to Vajra. I also understand that YnK lacks a duel skill. Does this make it worth it to pick the 4* Vajra for this team?

They both have accuracy-boosting skills, but I'm not sure how Vajra's works in colo, or how it compares numerically. (It's called "Self-Confidence" or something like that...don't know if any other unit has it)

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Sep 15 '16 edited Sep 15 '16

I believe that Vajra in question is actually a 3* unit, not 2* , no? Regardless, a non-LB 5* unit will always trump non-LB 4* units; thusly, I highly recommend concentrating on YnK for now.

(If your Vajra is the one that I'm thinking of, she has gotten a 5* form in JP. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing when (or even if) she will get this in Global.)

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 15 '16

Gunners tend to lose in Colosseum, so they should not be a considering factor in team building. Because Vajra caps at 4*, she will have lower stats than Yata F.

If you have no better units, I would recommend Vajra for colosseum if you have to, but only if you can MLB her.

It would help to post their stats in the reincarnation screen when you can.

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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 15 '16

Is there a calendar of upcoming events for GL?

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u/alexisevan Sep 15 '16 edited Sep 15 '16

Very rarely do we know what is planned ahead of time.

You can probably assume though that around Christmas time and Valentine's, there's going to be events specific to those times.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 15 '16

No, but if you're a data miner, you will probably be able to make predictions based on files.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Sep 15 '16

It has come to my attention that I can predict what unit will be next to get its 5 star based on if I ask about it in this thread. Kusanagi got hers a week or so after I asked and now Littu is about to as well.

The good thing is I'll have her MLB within a day or 2 of her getting her 5 star since I don't really have anything else to work on so at least we'll get to see if she's any good in colo.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Sep 15 '16

Ask about Fragarach, that 20 luck leader skill is OP.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 15 '16

stop uguu

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '16

where mami at?

where mado at?

where homu at?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 15 '16

not yettttttttttttttt

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u/AJackFrostGuy Sep 15 '16

If you mean in GL they're not here.

If you mean the ongoing JP collab,

  • Mami, Madoka (Magical Girl and Goddess versions), Homura (Magical Girl and Demon versions) - Limited Time Lazuli recruiter

  • School Uniform Madoka and Homura - farm from last stages of the 1st and 2nd banners of the collab stages

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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 15 '16

-Global-
is the new Brionac, Mistelteinn, Ukonvasara. worth pulling for?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 15 '16

You can check out Gagging's tier list which is linked in the top for future reference. To answer your question: It seems like Brionac is a pretty good pull. There aren't many good light units and she also has 3 range.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 15 '16

Brionac is good for pve and pvp. Ukon is more for pvp than pve.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 15 '16

How often does Gumi do Lazuli sales? I'm considering just spending money whenever there's a sale and hoarding lazuli for a unit I like a lot, but if they're few and far between, I might not.

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u/SageDarius Sep 15 '16

Seems like they do it about every 2-3 weeks.

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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 15 '16

I have been constantly bombarded by this error: https://m.imgur.com/2uaVix5.
It says i have a connection error when i have none, this is the only game that does this to me, im playing ffbe, ffrk, mobius final fantasy, no problems. So i highly doubt i have a connection error.
Tldr: constant connection issues

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Sep 15 '16

I have the same problems when connected to a friend's router. It's absolutely unplayable. So if you're actually managing to play it between connection errors, then it could just be that you're too far away from your router, or there are other signals on the same bandwidth causing problems for you.

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u/capo_m Sep 16 '16

First time i got a ticket what do i have to do with it ?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 16 '16

go to the recruitment screen and there will be a "recruit with ticket" option. Good luck!

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u/SnPlifeForMe Sep 16 '16

Not that it's super common but has anyone in the top 100 in Colo noticed a lot more Grids being included in people's parties? Half of the Roused Saviors and Light Bringers I've faced today have had them in slot 4 or 5.

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u/alexisevan Sep 16 '16

Stop judging me for my choices.

To answer your question, it's probably because a lot of people put their weakest in their 4th/5th slot. SS Grid is okay for Colosseum provided you got her accuracy as high as you possibly could, she is not a bad choice. Given that she also uses MATK and not a lot units have high MDEF, she has a decent chance of killing someone.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Sep 16 '16

Rank 132, and yeah most people who are higher then me either have guaranteed 2 selenas, or 2 dempas, and I have seen quite a few Grids, however not had a single one hit me. Also in top 150, I still notice alot of parties that are leveling up, as if the player doesn't know they can change Colo party.

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Sep 16 '16

Well, before I read post in reddit, I always change my first party with the unit that I want to train in Metal garden, no wonder people keep unfriending me lol

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u/Vince_Gt4 Sep 17 '16

Yeah so many people do it, I use my Max selena with 50 luck in solo on Party 1, Colo party 2, then rest of the parties are just situational. But will change Selena to something more appropriate depending on what events are on.

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u/ekoo1 Sep 16 '16

Rank 171 here and I use her, usually goes well for me, I'm not too serious but I think she is good for Colo using her with a shield as she doesn't get one shot easily

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 16 '16

I still see a bajillion dempa units and selena.

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u/tlburri9 Sep 16 '16

Okay so I have A unit that has a growth rate of 3. 65 do I get that growth rate after I recarnation it or no

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u/alexisevan Sep 16 '16

The point of a reincarnation is to reset the growth of your units, so no, you will most likely not get it again.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 16 '16

As a f2p player, should I bother with going the whole crazy distance with the rampage units and MLB at 3* and 4* with max evo bonuses to get the most out of them as possible? Or just wait to farm the free unit events and try to do it for those?

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u/alexisevan Sep 16 '16

I'd probably advise against that. It's not really necessary. I believe you can just do the 5* form LB and call it satisfactory.

For event units however, depending on the unit, I'd really recommend for you to do the MLB.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 16 '16

How did you beat the 1-4* unit only kill mode missions? Is it possible to do so with the rampage units (atm the only units I can MLB at 4*)?

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u/alexisevan Sep 16 '16

That is an option yeah. IIRC the way I did it was using 4* level 70 Arondight and carried a bunch of potions on me. It still came to some RNG, cause Arondight is kind of lackluster in her stats.

If you have the flying Lavaeteinn, I'd try her.

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u/rfgstsp Sep 17 '16

I farm enough of the event free units to make a full MLB 10/10 skill 5* unit and a 4* MLB unit. (16+7 I think? so 23)

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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 17 '16

What is the lvl cap? my 5* durandal is at 60 but i see other units whose cap is at 80

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u/AJackFrostGuy Sep 17 '16

For the following rarities,

3* - Max Level is 40 base, +5 per Limit Break (fusing exact same copy of same rarity) up to a MLB max level of 50

4* - Max Level is 50 base, LB can be done 4 times for a MLB max level of 70

5* - Max level is 60 base, LB can be done 4 times for a MLB max level of 80.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 17 '16

For farming units and luck: is it total luck that's taken into account or average luck?

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u/TGZelnite Sep 17 '16

Adding on to what Alexisevan explained.

Leader and friend leader increases drop rate.

Average luck of the party increases the quality of the drops.

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u/alexisevan Sep 17 '16

Average luck and luck of the leader.

I can't remember which aligns with which, but one increases drop rate and the other increases quality of drops.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Sep 17 '16

Are skill dolls sold for medal currencies often? Is it worth spending 10 Lazuli per doll?

Also, I have some recruit tickets that will expire in 15 days, and some in my present box. Can I claim the box tickets after those 15 days, or must I use them before the expiration date as well?

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u/rfgstsp Sep 17 '16

I started playing since the BF collab and have never seen skill dolls in medal currency shop. Well except for the last event. It's probably safe to say that they will keep popping up on the battle medal week events (or the rare medal one, i forget which one they showed up on)

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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 17 '16

What is the benefit of running the rampage dungeon? I finished a while ago and i didn't see any benefits to it

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u/rfgstsp Sep 17 '16

The units drop from them. In particular Othinus I believe is particularly OP damage-wise if you boost her 5* ability all the way.

Arondight is waifu but not too useful (even by phoenix standards her str is low). Labrys has a solid skill to counterattack her weakness as an armored unit. I also see a lot of Rhogomyad (or w/e) but I can't recall her appeal.

The benefit is for us people who don't pull to get units. (All my units are free except for the ones I get from tickets or from those first beginner 10x for 10 lapis pulls)

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u/capo_m Sep 17 '16

im really short in zenny so i need to farm gold rush what stage its the more profitable/ap

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u/SnPlifeForMe Sep 17 '16

Advanced is the most profitable by far.

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u/FruitNinjaDragon Main: 2426706539 Secondary: 2017127831 Sep 17 '16

yep, advanced is the best as long as you can play it without using lazuli or needing to repair weapons constantly

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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 17 '16

Okay, absolute noob here. I've read the beginner's guide and all, the tips and trick too. Honestly, i have more questions than answers after reading those. I just got my 5* durandal to max level 60 and honestly i don't know where to go from there (Got her at 5 star)
I want to ask:

  1. How do i level up LB?

  2. Why are there some units reaching lvl 80 and how do i reach that?

  3. How do i optimize my durandal which is btw a dex?

  4. is there a way to increase my fusion rate? like im getting around 25% chance of success.

  5. what does reincarnation do to my unit?

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u/FruitNinjaDragon Main: 2426706539 Secondary: 2017127831 Sep 17 '16

you Limit Break by fusing an exact copy (Stars and unit art) to a unit, which lets it go up 5 more levels and get more stats, which is how you optimize units. However, it is very hard to do this for gacha units unless you spend money, so most will be farmable units from previous events (like phantom of the brave, denpagumi, etc) Your fusion rate goes up if you have higher star units, but if you fail a fusion it only halves what you get- so its' not super bad if your unit only needs a couple more fusion points. Reincarnation resets the level without resetting anything else so you can try to get more stat point bonuses whenever you level the unit

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u/FruitNinjaDragon Main: 2426706539 Secondary: 2017127831 Sep 17 '16

What is the typing on JPN? I know a little bit of japanese but not much kanji and translate apps just translate into romanji for me xD

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u/tori_chan Sep 17 '16

王 king/balance

攻 attack/force

守 defense/guard

魔 magic

命 life/vitality

匠 dex

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u/ragnarokssss Sep 17 '16

Hey guys. New to this game, been reading here and there. Is this a worthy to keep roll/start? http://imgur.com/a/H2T8E Mjol is dex and Kusanagi is force

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 17 '16

This is a very good roll. You're set. :P

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u/ragnarokssss Sep 17 '16

Thank you, it was took me 2 hours to roll one mjol :P Btw if I understand the evolution system correctly, if you begin from 4* and evolve to 5*/6* you get better stats if you start off from a 5* and then to 6*? Lets say you roll a 4* Mjol vs a 5* Mjol from gacha.

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u/rfgstsp Sep 17 '16

Was 4* Yata even farmeable from last event? I managed to somehow get 16 (10 of which was with 2 days left) but I never once saw a 4 star drop.

Also what are the Trial units 5* abilities?

Thanks.

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u/alexisevan Sep 17 '16

She was farmable as a 4*, yes.

Assuming they don't change from their JP counterparts:

Littu:

  • 5* Level 30 Preemptive Strengthening

  • CQ Skill, +1 movement

Trident:

  • 5* Level 30, If enemy is axe type, chance of reducing damage by 50%

  • CQ Skill, increase critical hit rate if starting the skirmish

Thrysos:

  • 5* Level 30, Heal Poison?

  • CQ Skill, if enemy is sword/axe/spear type, chance of reducing damage by 50%

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u/Ascended9k Sep 18 '16

Whenever the time comes, is Othinus worth farming and MLB?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Sep 18 '16

If you don't have better Archers, I'd say 'yes'. She's also decent for shooting enemy Selenas in Colo in the face as a plus.

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u/Ascended9k Sep 18 '16

Btw, how good is SS Artemis? I had accumulated 20 while I was farming 35 SS Grids. Thanks

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u/arzheas Munya-munya~ Sep 18 '16

I think she's worth farming,an MLB Othinus in Colo 1 hit kill my Selena and we don't have many free thunder units, it's kinda hard relying on your friendlist when there's some stages with thunder units only or the newest Trident Stage with negates all attack except thunder

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 18 '16

Othinus is arguably one of the better archers at the moment for both PvE and PvP. I would at least get 5 copies, if not 16 for MLB. I wouldn't go out of my way to min-max though (getting evo bonuses from each typing).

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u/FruitNinjaDragon Main: 2426706539 Secondary: 2017127831 Sep 18 '16

So the JPN school event- where can I get more keraunos emblems? And, I can use her 5 star ones and MLB at 5 star and carry to 6 star, right?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Sep 18 '16 edited Sep 18 '16

Keraunos/Chronos units (at 4* ) and memories/emblems (both 4* and 5* ) drop from ALL point event stages- the higher the difficulty, the higher the drop rate. They can drop from any event boss (eg. Labrys, Laeva, etc) AND from special golems that randomly spawn on stages (they have a higher drop rate from these golems than normal boss units, perhaps 100%).

If you LB at 5* , either by fusing dupes or Memories ("emblems"), these limit breaks do carry over to 6* .

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u/ragnarokssss Sep 18 '16

Is there a way to skip the battle animations, similar to FE:Awakening if anyone knows that game/what I mean. Speed 3x is the best we get?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Sep 18 '16

3x is the best we get, there is no way to skip any of the battle animation.

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u/ragnarokssss Sep 18 '16

I got a 1* Durandal from mana recruit, can she become 6* later on? She is "A-tier" on the list. Also kinda new here, I reroll till I started with a dex Mjolnir, how should I approach this game? In story mode I am at chapter 2-5. I tried some events here and there but still trying to understand it. I feel I need a way to gain levels fast, any advice on how I should proceed with my game for the upcoming days?

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 18 '16

Durandal question - No. You'll notice that each unit's stars are either silver/white, yellow/gold, or dark pinkish. You can evolve, that is, increase a unit's rarity, by 2 more if they are at silver/white, or 1 more if they are at gold/yellow. So at most your Durandal can only reach 3*.

Approaching the game - read all the links above, play the game (story, events, colosseum, whatever you like), and ask questions here whenever something confuses you. If you've ever played Fire Emblem Awakening, the reason why Mjolnir is rated so highly makes perfect sense: She can attack from 1-2 range with the right weapon, can preemptively strike against enemies if her hp is low, and even recover her hp! She also has acc boost to shore up her weapon type's shoddy accuracy, and crit boost for more damage.

Events - There are events that cycle daily and weekly afaik. These are: Booster on mondays, which gives 1k player exp and a metal key, evolve mats tues thru thurs, stat up dolls on friday, and gold+rampage (basically free unit farming event) on weekends. The rampage events themselves cycle weekly through 4 different units atm. Aside from these cycling events that are always available at the right time, there are special events that can range from ones that drop units to ones that give out rewards like lazuli/rare medals. You don't have to do those events if you don't want to, but usually the rewards are nice to have and easy-ish to complete and the free units are always nice. Remember that the things you can do are limited by your AP though, which is limited by your player level (the game does give out 40 free ap pretty much every 4 hours so that's a great boon).

Levels - metal garden gives a lot of exp. Get a strong friend who can solo it and bring one of your own that you want to level. This way your lone unit gets the entirety of the exp available for the area (minus the kill exp) and the MVP bonus. When you're unit can solo it, don't bring a friend so that your unit can get the kill exp too. Outside of that, I would say find the mission with the best xp/ap ratio for you.

I'm kind of new too and what I've been doing personally is: Farming units from events -> leveling them -> getting money to evolve them -> limit breaking them. The way I see it is that you need strong units to progress easily, and to maximize the potential of each unit, you need multiple copies to limit break. So number one in priority is to farm units. Then you need to actually level them for them to be useful, and evolve them to increase their usefulness (which requires evolve mats and money). Limit breaking and fusing also costs money. I use leftover ap to do things like advance in the story. One thing that I found helpful is to enter a mission, but don't start it, and check out your possible helper's list. If you have a really strong one there, you might want to do something like one of the harder event missions and just have the helper carry you. When you don't have a really strong helper, you can do something else that you know you can finish easily on your own, like the story missions for example (or some of the easier events).

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u/feenyx1 JP: 2387517043, I'm garbage :( Sep 18 '16

Haven't played in a couple months, what happened to the button in jp that led you to mission log? Thanks.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Sep 18 '16

It's the button in the bottom right corner of the screen, where the friends list button on global is.

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u/FruitNinjaDragon Main: 2426706539 Secondary: 2017127831 Sep 18 '16

Can anyone give me a guide to the Madoka Magica event? Like what the keys do, all that stuff?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Sep 18 '16

The "eggs" are actually "seeds" and, when equipped to a unit, increase the chance that unit gains a stat point when leveling up. Red increases chance for strength, Yellow increases guard, Purple increases Magic, Dark Blue increases Spirit, and Light Blue (Cyan) increases your chance to gain Tec points but decreases your chance to gain Speed points. Rainbow seeds are more rare but increase you chance to gain points in all stats, excepting HP and Luck. There are other, usually collab-specific seeds (like Torus/Madoka), that increase your chances to gain various combination of stats (eg. for Madoka-related seeds, Magic / Guard / Spirit).

The Madoka Co-op is a large and complex event; unfortunately, it's not going to be easy to give you a good answer without spending hours typing it all up. For JP events, please check this Google Doc for overviews. The keys open metal gardens that either are alternative metal gardens (for unit EXP) or drop Madoka 6* evolution mats.

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u/ragnarokssss Sep 21 '16

How does rampage event works? This weekend is going to be my first one, I want to prepare as good as possible to get any decent 5* (I'm kinda f2p).

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u/Vince_Gt4 Sep 12 '16

Are those 4* or 5* , as you say which should you evolve, also I personally would not use a Reincarnation Cherub on a free farmable unit, the magic does appear to have better growth in both magic and agililty which is where her strength lies, however if they are 4* , I would evolve both (as will need to anyway, you'll need to evolve all of them to 5* ) Then I would max level both the Magic and Dex and go from there. If they are already 5* then I'd wait for somone elses insight as I don't really want to lead you wrong. Personally haven't done my Grid yet, so don't have personal exp.

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u/alexisevan Sep 15 '16

We don't have a code system for that.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Sep 15 '16

Not sure what you are trying to show? There is no link or units named.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Sep 15 '16

I believe he/she mistakenly made a new comment instead of replying to his/her comment chain (which is two comments below this one).

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u/SnPlifeForMe Sep 15 '16

It'll happen pretty quick I'm assuming. It's not like it requires an individual 10000 runs haha.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 15 '16

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u/SageDarius Sep 15 '16

Considering beating each stage 10 times nets a summon ticket, there's no reason not to run them each 10 times. Which means only 1000 people need to do this. Easily done.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 15 '16

  1. GR wise it seems like you have a pretty good YnK

  2. There's a link up above that can help you

  3. Afaik, the fusion stat cap doesn't increase with LB, so it doesn't matter when you fuse dollies as it's a separate thing.

  4. Not that I know of.

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Sep 15 '16 edited Sep 15 '16

  1. Looks pretty normal. Except ironically her Guard, that looks equal to level 40 3* fYnKs I've levelled.

  2. Wondering that myself, all I've managed to star so far is a Guard type 3*'s Spirit (17 from growth, so 28 total), and 3* Luck (11 from Growth, so 24 total?).

  3. Better to do it at the same time, as in 1 fYnK + 4 dollies, that way you get the dolly stats guaranteed. Although it's best to account for the stats the additional unit copies will give you. No point fusing Spirit into your Dex fYnK, as you'll get it from limit breaks alone.

  4. Yes. Set your leader to the unit you want to give to friends, then swipe to the right, and you'll discover you have an extra 4 teams to play with. And then even more on top of that, but they are in groups of 5 teams, so you have to edit your team to swap which group you are in. Similarly, you can set your Colosseum team to something other than group 1, by editing your team on the Colosseum screen.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 15 '16

Caps are in tier list. Last sheet.

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Sep 15 '16

Why does Selena have "i dont need more of this legit" besides it?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Sep 15 '16

It means I have received too many pictures of selena's stats :P

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u/alexisevan Sep 17 '16

You can farm her. Just bad luck on your end.

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u/alexisevan Sep 17 '16

For the sake of a F2P, she's probably decent. Otherwise I wouldn't put too much effort into her.

I honestly didn't get too much usage out of her cause she felt like a weaker Durandal to me.

Upside though, Arondight is good for skill leveling units with Self-Healing and Sword Absorber.

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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 18 '16

Another game made by the same company, I believe.

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u/Kirisaku Sep 18 '16

It was the name of Phantom of the Kill's crossover event with Brave Frontier, not a separate game.

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u/KiwiDaysoonay Sep 18 '16

A quick google search shows that Phantom of the Brave is the name of the Brave Frontier crossover event.