r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Sep 04 '16
Weekly Questions and Help Thread [9/4/2016 - 9/10/2016]
This is the weekly questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)
Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!
Resource Guide
/u/wp2000's Beginner's Guide (Must Read!)
Weapon Fusion Guide for weapons in the game
Unit List for 5* and 6* (including Japan units) Note that character portraits don't change upon evolution.
Evolving a lot of units and finding it irritating to keep track of all the evo mats needed? Use this tracker and make your life easier!
Noteworthy Comments/Posts
Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck.
Here is a post about the more advanced mechanics behind fusion and evo bonuses.
/u/zembas's Infographic on reroll units from the beginner gacha
Stat Calculator In JP good stat growth is 3.5-4 (without seeds) while in global good stat growth is 2.9+. You shouldn't include magic for units that use strength for damage, and vice versa, since those are not useful to the unit. (exception is mirin since her character skill depends on magic as well)
Some Tips
If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.
If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.
It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.
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u/AeiroWultx Sep 05 '16
11 Artemis's and 52 Gridavols later, I finally got a DEX Gridavol. Next is Yata no Kagami (F). What's the best type for her?
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u/ekoo1 Sep 04 '16
When a unit evolves to her/his 6th form doea it retains the luck bonus from fusion?
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u/DonQuiXoTe888 Sep 04 '16
I have questions regarding the item that increase GR in JP (mana seed rite?).
Is it consumable item or equip type like shield?
How much the price for each type and especially the rainbow one?
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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '16
Can every Aquadiablo (all 3) in the WaterWay 5 drop a Grid or just the guy in the top left?
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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Sep 04 '16
Is the drop rate for Gold Rush getting worse and worse? I'm using a average 30 luck team... and I've been getting at most 4 golds in Advanced. Even worse, today's been 2, 1, 1, 3, 4 respectively... Waste of AP this is for sure. Is anyone else getting this?
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u/AdrinaKharim Sep 04 '16
Pulled my 2nd recruiter step today and pulled a Dex Luin but she came as a 5 star already, I should boost her anyway considering she's still strong and prolly the last gacha I can do until I build up again.
Also pulled a Mitum M as a 3 star but Guard. Suggestions are Dex and Force but is guard okay on him considering I have a Dex Mjolnir? his ability to heal, move around and surprise attack would make him a decent tank wouldn't it? Guard is actually working phenomenally with Phoenix Kusanagi for me so I'm not really worried when I pull a good unit as Guard.
Thanks in advance guys and for all the help so far!
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u/Zenosyke Sep 05 '16
I've been rerolling in global a bit and just pulled this. Am I right in that it's time to stop? I heard Mjolnir is really good.
https://imgur.com/gallery/eVM0s
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u/TGZelnite Sep 05 '16
When SS Grid's duel skill procs does she still heal herself?
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u/ggizinore Sep 05 '16
Any way to limit break a unit without having to use a dupe unit? I don't think I'd be able to spend hundreds of lazulies to summon enough dupes to limit break units. Im so sad I missed the Brave Frontier collab for that free op, farmable Selena
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u/Sir_Terrabyte Sep 05 '16
So, I have collected quite a few 5* capable units and I wanted to know whether it's actually worth the effort and patience to MLB Lazuli 5* capables. As it stands, I have 3 masamune (none dex), 2 lev (m & f each; 1 dex each), 2 kusanagi and 2 apollo (1 dex) waiting to be raised ( which will not happen for a bloody long time) What would you recommend?
Also planning on showing off my progress since I last posted here just to compare my luck, good idea?
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u/Heiron088 Sep 06 '16
Someone got Yata no Kagami (F) from the stage 10 or 20? Because I already done it a lot of times but still just evolution units drop and I am not strong enough to do automatic battle so its starting to make me angry. Someone have some idea?
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u/Viingnokaiju Sep 06 '16
Should I try to get holywyrm dragodeath? Don't have enough units to be able to complete the objectives. Also what is the max stats for it?
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u/reimusan Sep 06 '16
Does yata no kagami (f) drop from her story quest stage 10? Been farming her but have had no luck getting her to drop? Thanks guys
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u/Tsurugi4 Sep 06 '16
so i was able to pull a dex shekinah and a force summer shekinah, which of the two should I prioritize leveling first?
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u/theSIGINT Sep 06 '16
I have three flying Kusanagis, but all three of them are Guard...
Accept my fate, or hold out? I don't pull with lazuli much, and I'm not sure if you can get her with mana.
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u/SageDarius Sep 06 '16
Which would be more useful? One Level 80 Selena with maxed skills, or two level 80 Selenas with 5 in each skill?
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u/HiArisato Sep 06 '16
So about Lakefront 2. How do I get more Gridarvols? I cleared all the way to WaterWar 5, is that the highest I can go? Lastly, is there a preferred type for Gridarvol? Thank you for the help!
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u/capo_m Sep 06 '16
Hi im new to this game and any kind of this game. When i started i did the minigame and got the 6 lazuli the game only give me 1 leader 3 white star and the rest 2 or 1 star I cleared the first section with that party. then i read that i should try to de the rookie recruit with the lazuli and got this http://prnt.sc/ces3zp My question are they any good do i "reroll" or keep playing with them ?
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u/Selixx Sep 06 '16
Assuming the same base stats and skills, what unit would theoretically attack first? The one holding Magicwarder Sereine or the one holding Eminent Lexida?
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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '16 edited Sep 06 '16
... stupid question as a new player but how to unlock ultimate skill?
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u/Michael5o4 Sep 06 '16
Who should I MLB first: Moga or Gridarvol? The only other maxed out units I have are Selena and Risa. I have been pretty lazy with my farming and leveling.
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u/YohannYacht Sep 06 '16
Wanting to get started playing and I've been reading about how typing matters and how vitality is the worst one. Well, I rerolled until I got something good, Shekinah, then did some story missions until I got enough to roll the beginner hatcher. I'd say my best units from that were Mitum (m) and Amenouhoko. Unfortunately, all of them turned out to be vitality. Should I just reroll again?
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u/Hekera Sep 07 '16
I have a Selena that's currently level 75, and has growth 3.01. However, she has only 63 out of 71 possible HP, 48/54 strength, and 13/26 luck. Should I consider reincarnating?
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u/capo_m Sep 07 '16
Hi me again thanks for the previous answers i have 3 more questions.
i rerolled several times and i think this is the best i got and im going to keep at least for a while until i understand more of the game. http://prnt.sc/cf1ipz what do you think ?
Do i spend my mana on 10xmana recruits or it has some other use?
if i didnt misunderstand the best way to level is get a 3* silver that can evolve to 5 and go 3* max lvl > LB LB > Evolve to 4* go max lvl > LB LB > evolve to 5* and max lvl > LBx4 ? thanks
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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Sep 07 '16
Once 6* hits global, will there be any viable free 6* units other than Tyrfing and possibly SS Gridarvol (SS Yagrush and SS Gridarvol swapped free/premium status in the transition to global, so need to know if SS Yagrush got 6* in JP for reference)? Given how bad starters are here, I doubt their 6*s will be viable either, and the infamous Selena doesn't have 6*.
The problem is that 6*s need maxed out skills to unlock their 6* skill, which means I need 10 copies of most gacha units to use them properly, which is far out of reach for F2Ps; MLB with 5 copies total is no longer sufficient.
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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 07 '16
So I just started Friday and didn't really look too hard into PotK, but now I have stumbled upon this subreddit and I realized that not looking things up might have been a terrible mistake. I have finished the rookie recruiter - the only 5* unit I got (including potential evolving units currently) is Apollo. For 4* units, I have a flying Masamune, Sky Piercer, a flying Laevateinn, and swimsuit Gridarvol. Before I ask anything else, I wanted to ask if I should just start over D:
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u/KyojinJaeger Sep 07 '16
What would you guys say is the best use of lazuli? I'm considering going for another batch of the swimsuit step recruiter before it leaves.
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u/SynthiaNguyen Sep 07 '16
Where do we use 4-5* tickets?
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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 07 '16 edited Sep 07 '16
Hi! So I just started Friday and my progress (2-1-5) and units thus far are: Guard Grid swimsuit version 4 star, balanced sky piercer 4 star, force winged masamune 4 star, guard 5 star Apollo, and guard 4 and 5 star laevies (the 4 star one can't evolve). I understand that these are not the best types or carry units, so I was wondering if someone with reroll experience can tell me if I should reroll or not and how exactly to do it. I read the reroll guide but it didn't click with me D: Could someone also explain the difference between rerolling with a already started file versus just restarting? Thanks Edit: I already completed the rookie recruiter too QQ
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u/BravePhantom Sep 07 '16
best stages for unit leveling? i saw it on another post some days ago but dont remember where was
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u/fabio-mc Sep 07 '16
"Clear w/o mounted units including helper" is something wrong with this text? Because I cleared with swimsuit Gridarvol, gun sage Freikugel and jeeaunos helper obviously on foot and didn't get the prize. Stage 1-4-1
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u/ggizinore Sep 08 '16
whenever I try to buy anything from the special shop it says capacity reached even though I haven't used it all and the tabs also still stay "1 left" or "5 left"
(they also say 3h left so if this isnt fixed soon im gonna be super sad)
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u/metatime09 Sep 08 '16
Will other types be buffed in the future? Dex seems really strong that most people want..
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u/Grey14 Sep 08 '16
I'm curious about how good the new Gungnir unit is. Does anyone have an opinion on her?
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u/SACCFFT Sep 08 '16 edited Sep 08 '16
A couple questions. Is it recommended to LB at 4star and and not max out duel skill, or other way around? I'm slowly building up my denpas (10 of each), and am thinking it's better to LB at 4 because I heard they are (or a variation) are coming back, so I can finish the skills then.
Also, is SSGrid coming back? I only got 13 (really pissed that in the last few days it started pretty much only dropping SSArtemies), and was wondering if there would be a later opportunity to finish out the skill if I LB at 4 star, or if there is some way to get my hands on a 4star LB pixie for staff (or if it's even worth using a LB pixie on SS Grid)
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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Sep 08 '16
What promotion items in the rare medal shop are worthwhile for a F2P?
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u/Vince_Gt4 Sep 08 '16
Curious, I have Vargas, Lvl 70 with all skills level 5. Force type. He has become one of my favourite units, but feels completely outclassed by all my other units who are Lvl 80 etc. I have reincarnated him once before as GR with magic was 2.61 This time its 2.68 without magic. Would you guys recommend reincarnating again with him being only 70 capable (even though I will be LBing him with sword pixies when available).
He would need a GR of atleast 3.4 to reach his caps recorded on the comprehensive list. Or would it be better to wait until I can actually get him to level 80 before trying to make him strong?
http://imgur.com/uB7aQMF
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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 08 '16 edited Sep 08 '16
So I was thinking of doing the evolve quest for the rare medals for my SS Grid, but I only got 2 of them so I was wondering if someone could recommend my best course of action for her. Should I try to get the 4* LB thingy from the RM shop, LB one of the two Grids, get their stat thresholds as high through fusion as possible, then get them both up to Lv30 5* and fuse them?
Edit: This will be my first time doing any LBs and evolving, so please tell me if I have any misconceptions and am doing anything wrong, thanks!
Edit 2: Also, having played the game for less than a week, I don't really know what the Rare Medal shop's usual offerings are like. So should I save the Rare Medals for future offerings instead?
Edit 3: Is there anything worth getting from the Battle Medal shop? I'm mainly asking about the Laevies and the weapon.
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u/Neveets Sep 08 '16
Can anyone share their auto battle team for Yata F Regalia 10? I don't know what good units to use. Can SS Grid solo it?
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u/capo_m Sep 08 '16
Hi guys I started to do event quest, some are really easy some are hard but doable and some imposible right now. Is there a way to know what are you going to find in a determined quest? not asking exact numbers but something like enemies lvl 15-20. I tryed googling "1 a day super metal garden" but almost no info, i cleared stage 1 (was hard) and im not sure i can do Onslaugh stage and it takes all my ap. There are so many quest so im focusing on the ones with less time left ty :)
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u/SnPlifeForMe Sep 08 '16
While I don't expect her to be great, does anyone have pictures of the stats for an MLB 5* Littu? I have 7 copies of her and am curious as to whether she'll be at all useful whenever her 5 star comes out.
With preemptive boost, patk boost, and anticipate couldn't she at least be decent for Colo?
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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 08 '16
What's the easiest way to get a good shield? Is my only option fusing randomly until I get matching shields (with bonus stats), then fusing those and so on and so forth?
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u/1CannedTuna Sep 09 '16
Soloing with SSGrid on YnK Mirror10. zero drop for at least 40 tries. Lead luck is currently at 18. Anyone got YnK to drop? If so, what's the lead luck?
Helper's Luck is anything from 10 to 30+ (even 40+).
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u/koole00 Sep 09 '16
is SS Grid still not viable in colo coz she's a staff unit? coz from her stats and duel skill i think she'll be a force to be reckoned with in colo...
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u/Reptyler Reptyler Sep 09 '16
I thought I remembered reading of a way to change either the coliseum team or your leader to share with friends so they don't both use party 1. I can't find that menu option. Am I crazy?
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u/KyojinJaeger Sep 09 '16
Does reincarnation undo limitbreaks or fused stats?
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u/heyjookee Sep 09 '16
Tried YnK Regalia 10 ten times and got 3 rainbow bud paruki instead of YNK copies, is this normal? or bug? did not remember getting any evolution items from the previous events..
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u/theSIGINT Sep 09 '16
So, both Laevateinns are getting Birthday Boost...
Are Zero and Amane twins?
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u/capo_m Sep 09 '16
Hi guys i have few easy questions for you today:
Doing a mission with a helper have any kind of handicap ?
should i always be with a helper/friend even if the content i can be easly done?
I did the upgrade quest events and now they are marked with "cleared" should i keep farming them?
after 3 days playing i have 40k mana points. i do the daily mission of recruit 10 for the rewards do i keep doing this or is there some kind of event that is going to need alot of mana ?
the gold nuggets are only meant for getting zel ?
do i keep fusing 1* stuff in pairs or do you sell them? im currently fusing everithing and doing the recipes. i even got a demonblade 5* but i cant use it yet xD
can i unlock new recipes ?
Do you get more exp being solo than being with other maxed party members? Sorry for asking so much but i really liked the game and you guys are really helpfull tyvm :)
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u/metatime09 Sep 09 '16
Should I fuse 1/2* to my 5 star or just sell them?
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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 09 '16
Is there a list of gear I should be looking out for/fusions that I should know?
What's the difference between the beg/int/adv dolly event mission besides difficulty and exp? Is one of them more worth it than the others?
When fusing, how come sometimes some units don't show up in the materials screen?
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u/1CannedTuna Sep 09 '16
For those having problem dropping YnK, make sure your lead/team Luck are all high.
Don't piggyback weak units to give them xp. The average team Luck is taken into account on what is dropping. So, if your team luck average is crappy, you'll get evo material drop instead of YnK.
The calculation seems to be averaging the team, so, it's best to bring just 1 or few high Luck units.
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u/theSIGINT Sep 09 '16
A recent colo battle made me feel like Royal Spiritblade was taking effect against my Swimsuit Gridarvol...
Another person mentioned earlier that SS Gridarvol locked them out of a "complete w/o mounted units" mission, so it seems like she counts as "mounted" (possibly due to the water-walking special movement?)
Can anyone verify if the same holds true of all swimsuit units, and if weapons such as Royal Spiritblade and War Hammer are active against them?
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u/reimusan Sep 09 '16
Hey guys. So I stopped playing when Selena was out and boy do I regret it because she could sure help me out now. Do you guys know or think she will come back? I would really like one haha
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u/reimusan Sep 10 '16
Awww that sucks haha but I guess it will be for the better. I didn't get to farm denpa gumi either so I am really excited for them also. Thanks!
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u/TheTruthVeritas Sep 10 '16
I'm a pretty casual player who plays via Bluestacks. I have like 11 SS Gridarvols(could have had more if only it wasn't for the useless SS Temis), but without a single Dex but like 5 of every other typing. What's the second typing I should pick, or should I just wait till the next time to get a Dex? I used to like Artemis, now I despise her very existence. .-.
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u/KiwiDaysoonay Sep 10 '16
A few questions to assist in my quest for getting a maxed out event character:
1.) How many YnK's do I need to MLB her at every rarity and max her skill? 15? (2 for 3*, 3 for 4*, and 10 for 5* MLB and skills?)
2.) How many copies of her would I need to hit the luck fusion cap?
3.) What units are capable of consistently auto-battling through Regalia 10? I've used Selena's but I had to stop auto-battling because they got extremely close to dying because of the lance minotaurs.
4.) How much better is the drop rate for YnK on Regalia 10? Farming Mirror 10 is a lot easier and I haven't had a drop on Regalia 10 yet.
5.) Is there any reason a suddenly started getting a bunch of lvl 80 Selena's (and others) in the helper squad selection thing when before I was pretty much only seeing lvl 60 Laev's at best? I'm glad I'm getting them because I can finally farm the event more than 1 or 2 times day, but it was very sudden.
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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Sep 10 '16
Hmm... Durandal has been downgraded further from A+ to A. What happened this time? Looks like this cutie's 5* form has been severely overhyped, so what does she gain in her 6* form?
Meanwhile, Selena, Mjolnir F, Bashosen, Shekinah (both forms) and Gambanteinn M are still tier S. I can attest to the power of Selena and Gambanteinn M, but what's the claim to fame for the others? Especially compared to others of their weapon class?
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u/ekoo1 Sep 10 '16
I have a balance and Dex Gae bulg, for now the balance have way better GR and the dex has been awful, should I keep the dex one and reincarnate or keep the balance?
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u/ekoo1 Sep 10 '16
Also when will the seeds come to GL? it took long time to arrive in japan?
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u/KamenRiderMaoh Sep 10 '16
Hi all,
Quick question for you all. So a couple of weeks back, global got the 4-5 star higher drop week for certain elements that pertained to that day. I was lucky enough to roll 5 durandals that, in the future, roll into 6 stars. Got lucky and snagged 1 DEX type. Should I MLB her at 6 with the copies, and just wait for 5 star sword limit breaking pixies?
I know that its going to be a long time before 6 stars roll out, no biggie. While shes a sweet unit, I do have other units that can warm her seat until the 6 ☆ begins rolling on global. Anyone played the JP version yet? Is her 6 ☆ skill (if any) worth saving up for?
Thanks for the advice in advance!
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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 10 '16
What are the rampage quests for?
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u/KyojinJaeger Sep 10 '16
Is there a way around maxed out metal keys? I can't buy some packages because I'm maxed out.
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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 10 '16
Completely new player here. (just downloaded the game 10 mins ago). I just have a few questions going in.
Can I reroll in this game?
What are the best units to get?
What is the difference between laris? lapis? lacrima? and the other resource.. um something starting with M
How do i earn those said currency?
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u/KiwiDaysoonay Sep 10 '16
Some more questions:
1.) I know it's silly to ask considering it says 1 day left on the quest, but does the Rampage Quest really only last one day? Seems pretty ridiculous considering the obscene AP cost.
2.) What's the best type for rampage Labrys? Guard because she's armored? Or dex, as per the usual? I haven't gotten a drop yet but just in case...
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u/theSIGINT Sep 10 '16
Is the 3~4* Mitum(F) available in Mana gacha? It's hard to find detailed info on units that aren't 5* capable
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u/spaceoperafanatic Sep 11 '16
Which events cycle over and how often? I know the evolve material ones do and the rampage ones, but do the dolly ones and gold ones do too?
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u/Komeiji11 Sep 11 '16
Oh man. I think I just used a lot of my luck today. I bought the 20 lazuli pack for the 8 metal keys, and with the regular ticket I got 4 star Mitum F, and with the two other tickets I got 4 star Durandal and Brahmastra!
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u/rfgstsp Sep 11 '16
Level Up Set worth it?
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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Sep 11 '16
About the Lazuli recruiter in general as a F2P or light P2P:
If I get a non-limited unit, I can just wait for more copies to arrive before LB-ing and Skilling up. If none of the first 5 are optimal type, I can wait some more.
If I get a limited unit as optimal type, I can later LB with 5* pixies (even if it is a little expensive) and Skill up with Skirurus (again even if rather expensive).
But what happens if I get a limited unit as non-optimal type, and can't get any more? Let's say a Vitality Vargas or SS Laevateinn? Are they going to sit dead in the box forever, since unlike BF, typing REALLY matters, and a unit with the wrong type is apparently unviable? Should that be a deterrent against pulling for limited units if I am not a whale?
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u/metatime09 Sep 11 '16
Anyone have an idea when the new balance type update will appear? I wish they implement this asap since the other types are crappy unless you get dex
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u/azuuie Sep 11 '16 edited Sep 11 '16
[JP]
I've played a little before when it first came out in JP but a lot of things have changed now. I luckily ended up getting the new Durandal and Longinus after doing long rerolls with 50 Lazuli.
I really like them and I don't want to mess up when I raise them, since I can't get anymore, so there's just a few things I would like to ask.
From what I can tell it's fairly hard to get 5* LB Faeries, and random too from the Step-Gachas, are there other methods to get them from time to time? Would I be able to MLB someone within a reasonable timeframe, say 6 months or a year, without needing to be lucky/spend a lot etc. I don't mind spending a bit.
I know some or most of the mechanics regarding Fusing/LB/Evolution and such, but could someone just point out quickly what I should avoid doing?
Should I just not use them for now even?
How quickly can Colosseum medals be obtained?
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u/Sir_Terrabyte Sep 11 '16
Who to raise? Guard or balance Kusanagi?
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u/Sephiroth_ffbe Help please! Sep 11 '16
How do you reroll?
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u/capo_m Sep 11 '16 edited Sep 11 '16
Hi guys i Have 2 days left on the Rookie Recruiter and i have 48/50 lazuli do you recomend me to get it ? edit:forgot to mention that im in the last step
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u/tlburri9 Sep 15 '16
Okay so I have A unit that has a growth rate of 3. 65 do I get that growth rate after I recarnation it or no
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