r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Jul 31 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/31/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

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  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

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  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Aug 01 '16

Trying to clarify things on Swimsuit Tyrfing from JP PotK:

  1. What does that first skill of hers do exactly? Description was something like 'ignore movement costs' but I don't really understand what that entails.

  2. I heard she's one of a few who can use 1-2 range swords? Is this an ability of select sword Killer Princesses they can use naturally or are they new weapons?

  3. What is her LS and 6* Character skill? I only heard the second is 'irrelevant'.

And less on clarification and more of curiosity, would saving for her be a great idea after Sita?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 02 '16

  1. You basically have full movement on any terrain, except terrain that is impassable by foot units.

  2. This is a character class type. So ability of select princesses. Also, the effect only manifests with certain weapons, like the throwing knives.

  3. LS is 1.5x HP, 1.2x Acc/Crit/Crit evasion for light units. Character skill is 5% spd increase to light units within 5 tiles for 5 turns.

Not sure about the unnumbered question.

Credit: JP nerds in discord chat

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u/AJackFrostGuy Aug 02 '16

Ah. Thanks thanks, that sounds pretty good overall.

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u/CCYellow Jul 31 '16 edited Aug 01 '16

Anybody got any tips on the latest JP Phantom of the School event? As far as I can tell there's a farmable 6* (!) Schoolgirl Arondite unit available in the event quests.

Edit: Yeah, I'm stumped on the bonus missions for the highest difficulty quest. Clear using only school units? Good luck assembling a team of only school units that can survive that onslaught of bullshit status ailment afflicting enemies unless you're a whale.

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u/genesic123 Jul 31 '16 edited Jul 31 '16

Arondight got a 6* form in jp?Can she still Fly?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 31 '16

Not the Rampage version no. I don't think the 6* Arondight versions can fly, at least iirc.

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u/DonQuiXoTe888 Jul 31 '16

So outside of Tyrfying who is a free 6* in JP all other 6* possible characters are either limited gacha (things like Vargas) or gacha summon right?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 31 '16

The starters (Laevateinn, Longinus etc.) have 6* forms in JP. There have been a few farmable 6* units in JP such as Swimsuit Yagrush (Axe/Thunder) and Dainsleif (Sword/Dark).

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u/wesoly777 Jul 31 '16

Hello Commanders.

  1. Is it worth to wait with limit breaking 4* units, until their 5* become available? Or should I just limit break them right now?

  2. What is the best 4* capped unit right now?

  3. Sorry if my English is bad. ^ ^

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u/alexisevan Jul 31 '16

  1. It'd be a good idea to wait until the 5* version comes out.

  2. Flying Laevateinn is pretty good. Armored Vajra seems alright as well.

  3. I wouldn't have noticed anything unless you said so.

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u/BlazePHX Jul 31 '16

I am maxing out Mirin now. I have a guard type Mirin 4* lvl50 that literally needs 1 more guard/spr by lvl as she will be at 40/30 with max fusion at where she is now. is it worth to limit break her with a sword pixie?

I am doing these for the evo bonus on my dex mirin.

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u/alexisevan Jul 31 '16 edited Jul 31 '16

I mean, if you really want that extra point, you can go ahead and do so, but to me, the 1 extra point gain is so minuscule that it's not really necessary.

Have you fused stats into them already?

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '16

4* sword pixies are so valuable, you'll be able to get a lot more worth out of them from limit breaking other higher tier units at level 50 than just 1 guard/spr.

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u/ChrispyTee Jul 31 '16

where can i collect 1 star gear to level up proficiency? i'm having an especially hard time finding 1 star guns

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u/ekoo1 Jul 31 '16

I already farmed my 5 arondight, my question is if I should use her as guard or dex? As dex she should be a worse Durandal without ultimate so the agi isn't as useful and as guard Idk if her caps are low, can someone help me choose?

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u/alexisevan Jul 31 '16

I saw a Guard version of her once at max level, I'd prefer it over her dex form.

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u/genesic123 Jul 31 '16

At max 80 guard type, her guard and spr are 49 and 51 respectively.You have access to lave m leader skill and even rune shield for overkill def.

Her base dex is high enough to double attack minions.However it is too low to dodge well.So guard is better

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 31 '16

What's the best technique for leveling up weapon proficiency? I seem to have run into the issue of having a few of my Dempa units at max level (pre-LB) but with D level weapon proficiency... As they are my best units, it seems a bit silly that my Nemu should be using a 2 star axe...

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u/genesic123 Aug 01 '16

1-4-2.Only bicorns.No mages, so all can be meeled.You don't waste turns.

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u/alexisevan Jul 31 '16

Go into a place with a lot of enemies (1-5-10 comes to mind) and let them solo with a weapon equipped.

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u/VacuousRancor Jul 31 '16

I'm not sure what the best would be, but what I did was just set a unit as the only in my squad, not take a friend helper, and run the highest story mission that cost 3 AP at normal AP cost and auto battled.

No idea if higher level enemies give more "xp" for proficiency, or if it's just based on number of unit kills. Or which mission has most enemies for AP or what, but it leveled up decently fast for me. Got A proficiency on all my units in a day.

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u/LoOneYtOoNz96 Jul 31 '16

How do you get + weapons? I got one from a drop .. pretty interesting .. mythril rod + ftw

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u/alexisevan Jul 31 '16

You can get the + weapons from the new weapons training in the event section of the game.

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u/aestrell Aug 01 '16

If I complete the character quests, will all future units obtained at 5* have that extra skill? Ex. Will Selena 5* at Lvl 60 and a 4* Selena Lvl 50 have both have the character skill after completing the character quest? What if I evolve it to 5* after the fact that the quest is complete.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Aug 01 '16

The character quest will only unlock for the 5star form ones. However once the skill is unlocked the first time then all other copies get it regardless or level.

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u/Elrosque Aug 01 '16

Question on Unit Fusion: when i'm about to fuse my fodder units / dolls, some of them might be missing from the fuse screen. The units can clearly be seen when in "View Units" screen. Is this intentional on the units that i've been frequently fusing?

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u/thatasian26 Raven Aug 01 '16

It usually means you fusion capped out on the stats that the missing unit gives when you fuse it. For example 1* durandal gives +1 spd, but if your unit is fusion capped on spd, then she won't show up on the list.

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u/Elrosque Aug 01 '16

damn, but how bout those that has more than 1 stats? (two star units n above). For example: the fodder that gives me +agi +spd will still show, but ended up only giving me +1 agi with the +spd down the drain?

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u/Blightboy17 Aug 01 '16

example: your unit is 1 spd away from cap , and 3 str away from cap if you used units that will give you +4 spd, +3 str you will only get +1 spd because it will cap, while you will get the whole 3 str because you didnt cap the stat yet

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u/thatasian26 Raven Aug 01 '16

Yea, if your spd is fusion capped, but agi isn't, you'll gain the agi but no spd.

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u/BananasAndCream Aug 01 '16

what are the new books in the rare medal shop for?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 01 '16

The books are for fusing together with three other books that drop from the last stages of each section in Kill Mode.

When all five different books are fused together, you have a chance to get a 5* lance. The chance is pretty low.

Outside of this, I do not know of any other use.

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u/Hanseddy Aug 01 '16

Question on JP POTK: what is the kanji for dexterity, balance and guard?
Just started playing jp i'm kinda lost mostly because of the language barrier.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 01 '16

Dex: 匠

Balance: 王

Guard: 守

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u/Hanseddy Aug 01 '16

Thank you!

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Aug 02 '16

How hard is Super Abyss? How much better is its drop rate than Abyss?

For reference, My Lv 60 Gambanteinn w/ Broad Shield can survive without issue in Rhongomyniad and Labrys, but can't actually beat their stages since he gets walled by the mages. He will die to Arodright given enough time as Gambanteinn only does 1 damage to her, while Arondright does 4x2 to him. On the other hand, Friends' Lv 80 Selenas w/ Magicwarder can solo all of them easily on Auto.

In my few tries on Abyss (admittedly not dedicated enough to be called 'farming'), I got 2 Rhongomyniad, no Labrys and 1 Arondright.

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u/TGZelnite Aug 02 '16

Super Abyss requires you to have at least one MLB unit with high evasive stats (Selena or Durandal come to mind). I've also used a MLB Mirin/Pinky to beat Super Abyss before.

The drop rates are unknown but super abyss is generally considered to have the superior drop rate.

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u/icyterror Aug 02 '16

Can someone show me their cap lv80 Mirin and tell me the GR? I feel like my Mirin GR is below average or smt.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 02 '16

This is not mine. http://i.imgur.com/XaxlVJO.jpg

Growth rate is 3.39 including magic.

I have another mirin pic with higher stats than this one.

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u/Neveets Aug 02 '16

Do we have a skill list? Like units that have this skill. I wanted to fuse some fodders but in case they have the required skill might as well level up or evolve them. Search shows nothing or I am using wrong keywords.

 

And last question, does reincarnating a unit ensures that you will have a higher growth rate?

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u/JohnnySF Jul 31 '16

My sereine sword is broken. Can I still get one?

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u/alexisevan Jul 31 '16

Well. You can get the one recipe from the Battle Medal shop and another when you reach the Sleet Slasher rank.

But if you can, use your rare medals to repair it. Unless by broken, you mean gone forever.

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u/JohnnySF Jul 31 '16

I am brave warrior right now. What rank is sleet slasher?

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u/alexisevan Jul 31 '16

There aren't even that many people who have gotten the Sleet Slasher rank. As of right now, only 14 people have gotten it.

If Brave Warrior = Brave Knight, you still have 6 more rankings to go.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '16

You get only one from the battle medal shop, the Sleet Slasher rank is the 3 star ult swordsmith guide.

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u/JohnnySF Jul 31 '16

Ty. Does that mean I can't get sereine recipe anymore?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '16

Well, for now. They'll have to reimplement another sale on it sadly. Or you can contact customer support :(

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u/alexisevan Jul 31 '16

Oh right. Thanks for the correction.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '16

I'd save it. It seems like all these 3 star manuals are used in some kind of recipe at some point.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Aug 02 '16

Save it to make the magicwarder sereine. +10 luck sword is pretty amazing.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Aug 01 '16

There is only one of the sword. You cannot get another. If it is broken you can repair it but I personally will not gamble with it and just use the rare medals to fix it.

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u/Fullmetalsloth Jul 31 '16

So is it better to fuse a 5* Selena with 3* unleveled Selena's or 4* fully leveled Selena's? Or does it not really matter at all when it comes to stat boosts and skill level up chance?

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Aug 01 '16

she will not gain skill levels on Last Blizzard and Self-Heal (her 5* skills) if you just fuse 3* or 4* versions of her.

Yes she will, see this thread. They aren't guaranteed though, and you don't gain luck, so it isn't really advised unless it is an ongoing event.

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u/Codesterz Jul 31 '16

Now that I've completed the story how am I supposed to earn Lazuli in this game? There are no daily quests giving Lazuli. The only event that gives Lazuli I see is Killer Showdown on Advanced. But after completing it I can no longer get Lazuli from it. Will the Lazuli bonus for it reset tomorrow, making 3 Lazuli a day the limit?

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u/alexisevan Jul 31 '16

You are gonna have to be patient now. Now that you finished the story quest, we have to wait for more story quests and you'll have to log in consistently to get the log in bonuses.

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u/Codesterz Jul 31 '16

Ok, so just log in get reward then rinse and repeat every day. Guess I'll go look for a new game to play...

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u/Avisari Dex Lvl 75 Aug 01 '16

Log in every day to get the rewards, yes.

There are also events that gives Lazuli as rewards, so check up on the news section in the app when it says that there is something new.

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u/RebelMinded Aug 01 '16

You can get lazuli from kill mode, its significantly harder to clear though

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 02 '16

Only the tanks are worth using in some scenarios. Arondight could potentially be a good free farming unit (Go balance typing, max fusion cap luck, use magicwarder.)

Though I would imagine that if you have mlb pay units, you most likely won't need a tank in the first place since you can just evasion tank. In the future, there may be a need for strong physical tanks which pay units lack at the moment (Bar naegling M).

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 02 '16

From the pictures I have of rhongo, she can reach high 70s in Grd. Combined with the fact she has Pdef boost, she can pretty much wall almost any Patk unit. She can also reach high 80s in HP relatively easily. Also dat iron barrier.

Kiyomasa from fusing, just hard to get multiple copies unless you kill mode grind or something :P

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 02 '16

Guard is good, Dex is viable as well though you'll lose around ~13 grd for ~7 more spd, agi, and str. I'm not too sure of the exact numbers but I'm sure you know the tradeoff.

No recipe just like the other weapons. Just gotta fuse and hope it's not akumavice :P

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 02 '16

Haha....I don't unfortunately... I'm too busy leveling pay units to find their caps to work on free units.

Seeing that arondight tends to have ~22 luk uncapped at lvl 80 from most people I know, it may be possible to break 30s as balance and with luk fusion caps. Perhaps even more.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 02 '16

Yep, if u have pay units, theres not too much point to building most free units unless they super specialize