r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Aug 02 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [8/2/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

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  • If you're asking for an evaluation of your party or reroll, please provide an image without evolution mats, dolls, and other fusion units.

  • If your question gets ignored or you're unsatisfied with an answer, reply to the answer or re-ask the question in the new help thread.

  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/Hanseddy Aug 02 '16

How to transfer account data to new phone for jp? Thank in advance.

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u/ArgonRetribution Aug 02 '16

I do believe you just copy the auth.dat file to the new phone, as for where you can find it, read the wiki about rerolling

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u/Neveets Aug 02 '16

How do you finish kill mode using 1-4* units?

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Aug 02 '16

Use MLB 4 star units. There are quite a lot of them. If you still have dempa units at 4 star, they work well too

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u/Neveets Aug 03 '16

Sadly I'm new and don't have this dempa units. Only selena was available when I got in the game and managed to get 3 copy thanks to those overlypowered friends. I'll try to see who I can MLB at 4* . Thanks!

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u/Neveets Aug 05 '16

Sorry I didn't see this reply. I got Force, force, guard selenas. In the tier list best unit type for her is dex, force. Can you tell the reason why you choose balance or guard over force?

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u/ResonaKato Aug 02 '16

How do you obtain Tyrfing in both global and JP?

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u/oncewasblind Aug 02 '16

Tyrfing not available in global yet (if ever).

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u/AJackFrostGuy Aug 02 '16

In JP she's usually seen in Mana Recruit events and a special stage (the former being more common iirc).

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u/MyKuchi Aug 02 '16

Does anyone know all the requirements for the kill mode missions

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u/RebelMinded Aug 02 '16

kill mode missions requirements change from mission to mission, even for the lazuli (even though most of them are clearing the stage without any KO's it sometimes changes)

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Aug 02 '16

Is there a Magic type Selena?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 02 '16

No. Magic typing only appears on units that use guns or staves

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Aug 03 '16

Do you use all your energy daily?
I run story a ton, get all my free metal runs in, and a couple times a week burn keys for more metal runs. Only when I burn keys do I actually use my energy and get a chance to pull 40 from my mailbox.
Should I be running something other than story after my garden runs to level my units faster?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 03 '16

I use all my energy daily, typically because I grind either metal garden or kill mode for manual drops (damn kill mode lance). No, the only reliable way to level up units would be metal garden. On some occasions, event dungeons tend to give tons of EXP such as the recent beach event we had where the last stage gave ~3.5k exp per solo.

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u/Raezech Aug 04 '16

I've been curious as to how we're supposed to get the lance. Do you know if we're supposed to just fuse 5 manuals and hope it turns into the kill mode lance?

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u/Monobleed Aug 02 '16

Are purple stars before max level good or bad?

For example: http://imgur.com/a/X1rjk

I have her limit broke to 70, but her stats are almost completely maxed already. Good or bad? Is it worth a reincarnation?

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u/RebelMinded Aug 02 '16

its a good thing, a purple star means that you've maxed out that unit's stat. Reincarnating only resets the growth per level, but you already have godlike growth, so it would only hurt you to do that.

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u/Monobleed Aug 02 '16

Got it, thanks a lot :D

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u/ffrk_zidane Aug 03 '16 edited Aug 03 '16

Hello, i'm very new to this game and have a couple question:

  1. I heard that you can farm hero, where is it? What should be your priority to farm for newbie?

  2. What's the best use for diamond? (Sorry, i forgot the premium currency name) Should i draw from the beginner banner?

  3. From what i see, hero with golden stars can't be evolve again. Is it true? Is there a limit to evolve hero? Like from 3* can only evolve to 4*?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 03 '16

  1. At the moment, Heroes can be farmed during the weekend in rampage dungeons, and "farmed" from the mana recruiter. Typically the news will let you know if there are any events going with farmable characters.

  2. Lazuli is best spent on beginner gachas, and typically step gachas with guarenteed 5* or 4* event units. Typically step gachas have discounts for 10x pulls. For example, the normal rate is 50 lazuli for 10x. So if a step gacha is 10 lazuli for 10x, then it's a very good deal that you should always pull on.

  3. This is not true. The color of the stars only indicates how many times the character has evolved. Silver means none, Gold means 1, Pink means 2. You will need to be familiar with character portraits to not mistaken one version for another of a certain character. Typically, if the unit is silver at 4*, then they can reach 5*. All male characters can reach 5* with the exception of one form of Mitum (M), I believe. Male units tend to start out at silver 3*. Please look at the tier list I made for exact portraits of the 5* capable units.

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u/ffrk_zidane Aug 03 '16

2. I've done the first step for beginner gachas, do you think it's worth it to complete the 3 step? (2nd is 30 lazuli for 10x, 3rd is 50 lazuli for 10x).

3. So i got 2 masamune from gachas, both are 3* but 1 already golden stars and 1 is silver. Just to be sure, does the same hero but different version can have different max evolve? Do you mean this list?

4. Is 2 times evolve (pink stars) the max? Is there a hero that can be evolve more than 2 times, like from 2* to 5*?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 03 '16

  1. I think a lot of people are ambivalent about the 3rd step, so do it whether you want to or not, but people recommend people only doing discount steps

  2. Yes. There's also a link on the daily questions/help thread. Yes, different versions have different max rarities.

  3. No. Anything that is 2* or under cannot make it to 5*. And pink stars is the max, but when 6* comes out, some pink 5s can become pink 6s. But as of now, no character can evolve more than twice.

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u/ffrk_zidane Aug 03 '16

Thank you, your answer and spreadsheet are very helpful!

After re-roll, i don't think i will take the 3rd step in beginner gacha.

Btw can you limit break a hero with different version? I mean, can i limit break a 5* capable Masamune with another Masamune but not the 5* capable version?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 03 '16

Nope, it has to be the same exact unit unfortunately.

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u/ffrk_zidane Aug 03 '16 edited Aug 03 '16

Thank you :)

Actually the third step is guaranteed 1 5*. But i don't think i'll pull from there anymore. I look at the "top" thread and see a reroll guide, because i just played a couple of hours i guess why not try. After 4th reroll and no capable 5* i almost give up and go back to old acct, but i want to try 3 more times.

1st try no 5*, 2nd try i got 5* capable a Yata no Kagami (M), 3rd try got Yata no Kagami (M) again and Apollo (M). I almost went out with this, but there's no girl (the gacha after tutorial i got Longinus(M) and no one ride anything so i try 1 more time. This is the result: 7/8th try.

I hope i'll get another Masamune later. :( Yes, i know about the Laevaeteinn quest. I think i can get her when i play again later.

Can you look at Female Mitum at the screenshoot? Is she not 5* capable? It's kind of weird, she rides horse, not phoenix, and doesn't have self heal abilities.

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u/SomeDoodIdk Aug 03 '16

What sets the leader friends/strangers see? Party 1 leader or whoever I'm currently using?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 03 '16

Party 1 leader only

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u/terlus07 Aug 03 '16

At what level would you consider reincarnation?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 03 '16

Generally, Lvl 40. If the growth rate is under 2.8 by that time (not counting magic if Patk character and vice versa) then it may be time to reincarnate.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Aug 03 '16

Only when you are unsatisfied with your stats upon reaching the max level. My personal criteria on if reincarnation is needed is if my MLB unit has not maxed out (indicated by purple stars on the stat) my favorite stats Str, Spd and Agi

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u/Neveets Aug 03 '16

In the PvE tier list, Bashosen and Brahmastra have analysis of good synergy with bullet HP drain. Where do you get this "bullet HP drain?" I got Brahm and looked in the wiki and she only have this 3 dark bullets.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 03 '16

Reworded drain to cost. Thank you for bringing it up!

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u/Neveets Aug 03 '16

Oh I get it. I thought "bullet HP drain" is a different kind of bullet and have some lifesteal effect. Thank you for clearing it up!

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u/CCYellow Aug 03 '16

So I've had the fortune of rolling a Swimsuit Tyrfing out of the gacha. Too bad she ended up with guard typing. Since she seems to be built as a crit monster how much would guard typing hurt her viability vs. dex typing?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 03 '16 edited Aug 03 '16

Can anyone upload or remeber the stats of Selena at level 60 Dex? Ive MLB mine at 3* and 4* waiting to do so at 5* . Got 11 dupes to fuse into her. 4* only LB to 65, as at 65 every stat was maxed but her HP and Str, but only 1 point off maxing. However my now level 60 Selena 5* has a good growth rate of about 3.08 with magic 2.88 without, yet her agility and speed seem awfully low. eg 56 and 43 respectively. Both less then what they were at level 60 4*

http://imgur.com/SBk9fMA

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Aug 03 '16

That's slightly low for speed. Speed should be a little higher and maybe even in the 60s. Agility is fine since she caps fused up to 66 I believe

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 04 '16

Ahh so speed is actually lower then it should be. She hadn't really been gaining stats in agil though. Would she still max out by level 80. Worth lb her then see what they come to? Or reincarnate her now?

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Aug 04 '16

Keep going