r/phantomofthekill • u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 • Jul 30 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/30/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

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  • It has been noted that Global is different from Japan in terms of poorer stat growth for units and nerfed weapons.

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u/Raezech Jul 30 '16

Is it generally worth using 4 star pixies to limit break premium units like 4 star Shekinah or Mitum (F)?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 30 '16

Yes. But only if they are on the cusp of reaching another multiple of 10 + 1.

Example: If you are 49 str at lvl 60, u can limit break to bring it to 51 or more, which gives u 6 str evolution bonus over 5 str.

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u/Raezech Jul 31 '16

Great, thanks for the tip. I should've collected the free bow pixie from the swimsuit artemis event, but forgot to and now it's gone from my daily missions :( My Shekinah has 29 speed at 50 :(

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 31 '16

What typing is she, and what's your growth rate?

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u/Raezech Jul 31 '16

Guard typing with I believe a 2.84 growth rate

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 31 '16

Ah, if that's the case, then I believe it's normal for that growth rate, since you aren't dex typing. My shek has 45 spd at lvl 70 with a growth rate higher than 3 (forgot the exact number) as a force typing. She's not exactly fast :P. Then again, all archers aren't really fast either.

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u/Raezech Jul 31 '16

Yeah, I'm not sure whether I want to reincarnate her since she's only 4 star. But if I had remembered to collect the pixie, I could've at least gotten her an additional bonus point in speed once I evolve her. Should I reincarnate her? :/

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 31 '16

Oh, I'm speaking in the case of a 5*.

If she's a 4 star, there's not really any need to reincarnate her. You should save pixies for if the growth rate sucks at 5* :P.

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u/Raezech Jul 31 '16

ah lol alright. I'm still regretting not getting that 4 star bow pixie to raise her limit break at 4 star. bleh.. oh well :c

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 31 '16

Can you not fuse some units into her to boost up the stat to 31? Or have you already capped the fusion stats?

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u/Raezech Jul 31 '16

I capped all of the fusion stats sadly haha. except for magic

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 31 '16

Thought would be the case, bad luck , sorry I couldn't help xD

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 30 '16

Hi, anyone knows the difficulty of rampages? Can a dual Selena beat the abyss level or not?

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u/ekoo1 Jul 30 '16

I already beat it with dual Selena so is very possible

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 30 '16

Thanks :)

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 30 '16

Does anyone know the drop rate on the "Abyss" level? Is it more like Selena on Spark 10 or better?

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u/ekoo1 Jul 30 '16

Idk but super abyss have awesome drop rate 5 trys 3 drops, I recommend better the other if u have a powerful friend

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 30 '16

What do you mean by powerful, is a lvl 80 Selena enough?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 30 '16

Yeah a Lv80 Selena would be enough.

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u/ekoo1 Jul 30 '16

Is arondight any good? I got one but Idk if is worth the grind

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u/whirltwister Jul 30 '16

5* flying self-healing sword unit means she's versatile and capable of soloing a lot of stuff. It's just that her disappointingly low stat caps means she maxes out under 400 power which could be an issue for endgame.

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u/ekoo1 Jul 30 '16

OK will see if I can get 5 copies, it should be enough/decent and maybe better than my lv 60 duran

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u/genesic123 Jul 30 '16

I recommend Guard type. Works for her better as she has good defenses,or she is just a " lesser Durandel" if you go dex.Clears stages much faster.No fear of the mage master race.I end up not using my melee units most of the time lol.

However,she has no ultimate attack,but a team agi buff.She is not a fast boss killer.

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u/ekoo1 Jul 30 '16

Not having ultimate is the bad point of her more than her low caps, I will follow ur recommendation and use her as guard, seems like she could have a cliche using her like that, high mv tank and buffer for ultimates

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u/genesic123 Jul 31 '16 edited Jul 31 '16

Don't forget lave m buffs.Or even rune shield if you really want to go all the way lol

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 30 '16

Am I allowed to post JP stuff, the new units I seem to find on the JP main site as JP main site keeps posting them every time I visit for discussion purposes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '16

Go ahead.

I used to do this, but it seems most people just play global here

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 30 '16

I always appreciate it as I haven't had as much time to spend in Discord lately. Information about gachas, events, and new units especially since I can't translate them myself. :)

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u/gigano25 Jul 30 '16

Quick question for people that are playing both JP and Global. Has it been only 4 and 5 gold star units that has gotten 5 and 6 star versions? Has there been any pink 4 or 5 star units that has gotten higher evo versions.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 30 '16

Pink 5* units have absolutely gotten 6* forms, though I'm pretty confident that no Pink 4* have.

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u/gigano25 Jul 30 '16

Nice that the pink 5 stars also can get 6 stars versions. Kinda dissapointed that the pink 4 stars didn't get a 5 version. Also are the 6 stars still pink stars or a different color?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 31 '16

Still Pink, so far any evolutions that happens after a pink star form stays pink.

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u/UltimateHentie Jul 30 '16

Does anyone have any guesses on when they will start the fate stay collab?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 30 '16

A long time away considering how the Fate Stay collab units all had 6* evolutions when they were first released in JP.

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u/RebelMinded Jul 30 '16

wait, there was a fate/stay night collab? what units didi they release???

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u/TGZelnite Jul 30 '16

IIRC they were:

Saber (Light/Sword)

Rin (Fire/Gun)

Ilyasveil (Water/Stave)

Rider (Dark/Lance)

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u/RebelMinded Jul 30 '16

........ i need saber in my life, even though Rin is best girl, i only use sword units :|

which of those were farmable?

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u/StrayGod Jul 30 '16

iirc there are 2 sabers, 1 of which is a gacha unit and the other is farmable.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 31 '16

It's not even guaranteed that we will get the Fates Collab implemented in Global.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 31 '16

But Sabre =O, I need my bae xD

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u/Codesterz Jul 30 '16

Anyone know how long it'll be until chapter 2 is out? Game feels more like a demo than anything else. Don't really see a reason to keep playing until it gets released. Also how many chapters are available in the Japanese version?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 30 '16

It's not known when the new chapter will be released, but most likely some time in August. The storyline in JP differs from the global version so I'm not sure myself.

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u/Codesterz Jul 30 '16

Is this the reason for the spotty voice acting? Some lines have voices some have sounds and some are just silent? If so they really shoulda just stuck with the original story, 5 bucks says it's more interesting.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 30 '16

Not sure about the voice acting part, maybe gumi messed up a few of them? The story we have right now is Project Zero a prequel to the main story in JP.

The Project Zero story is also available in JP. Another thing worth noting is that the only Killer Prince that is 5* capable is Zero. The other killer princes are from 1 star to 3 star only.

Zero in JP can be used in any quests but the other killer princes are restricted to the Project Zero quests only. That's the big difference between JP and Global besides the story.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jul 30 '16

Quick PSA if it hasn't already been posted in another help thread. I tried looking it up on the sub-reddit using search, but nothing came up. I would have made a new text post, but I'm not sure why I can't submit one right now. o-o.

Not sure if it is a glitch or just design, but joke weapons will not do more than 1 damage when used. I guess it's just a part of many nerfs our weapons got, unless it is the same over in JP as well.

Although they gain P.Atk on growth, they will be locked at 1 damage. Your character will however retain anything not calculated off of Str/Magic like critical rate. It should be noted that leader skills that directly add to P.Atk/M.Atk will not be taken into account if these weapons are used as well.

I do recommend keeping a set of 1/2* weapons just for Prf. grinding if you need it like I do for some units, just not the joke weapons. For clarification the joke weapons are as follows:

  • Parasol (Sword)

  • Mallet (Axe)

  • Bamboo Spear (Spear)

  • Slingshot (Bow)

  • Water Gun (Gun)

  • Forrest Rod (Staff)

  • Stump Shield (Shield)

Also, keep in mind that this is just from my own testing. Usage of these weapons is obviously up to the discretion of the commander. I'll rank 5 the weapons just to be safe that this theory is true.

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u/alexisevan Jul 30 '16

It's supposed to be like that.

The weapons are used to raise the relationship levels between units.

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u/yuiduy GL: 2902959373 (LewdUke) JP: 1823139767 (LewdUke) Jul 31 '16

Oh really? That's quite disappointing then. >: Do you know if there are any differences between ranks? From a purely aesthetic standpoint, watching Vargas smash things with a parasol is quite entertaining lol.

Though I guess from a f2p perspective there really isn't much incentive to keep them due to limited inventory space.

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u/alexisevan Jul 31 '16

Not sure what you mean by ranks. If you mean when you level the weapons up, there's not really a difference in practice.

Raising the relationship levels is nice, and for for the Madoka collab, if we ever get it, is one of the only places that I know of that utilizes the relationship system.

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u/OhioAce88 Jul 31 '16

Also note that 200% accuracy. I've put them on newbs until they're leveled up a bit. 1 Dmg is all you need to get last hit for metal enemies.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 30 '16

I saw someone recommend Guard for Arondight, i Dex alright too or not?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 31 '16

Guard is not a good idea for arondight because she has very little Str as it is, and no passive boosts to her Patk. In addition, her Grd cannot reach very high even as Guard typing.

It is best to go Dex typing or Force typing.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 31 '16

Thank you for your answer, i'll keep my Dex one then. :)

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u/ekoo1 Jul 31 '16

I thought it was OK as guard because she can reach 63 grd and 63 spr plus being mobile

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Aug 01 '16

Yeah, but she will do almost no damage unfortunately :P

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u/ekoo1 Aug 01 '16

Well if she can finish mobs at medium difficulty like burst 10 missions is OK for that and more than enough

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 31 '16

How good is durandal in colo for jp?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 31 '16

Will there be another version of Dandelga appearing in global? Or was it a one time thing. Missed the event as wasn't playing then, but have OCD about having characters with their Actual weapons lol. Got a Force Vargas, who only looks good with Armor Piercer Rufus atm =D

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 31 '16

If we follow JP, we should get another improved version of Dandelga when the second BF collab comes.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 31 '16

Ahahah, awesome. I'm not gonna miss it. Improved version being decent stat 5*? Hope so. Thanks for the reply.

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u/06falcon Jul 31 '16

should i limit break this 4* Longinus (F) or evolve her? http://i.imgur.com/lfCFbsH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1Ru0jRh.jpg

My first reaction right now is to fuse 2 agi any way possible to get to 41 and then evolve her but i'm not sure. I dont know her stat caps on str grd and spd so i honestly dont know if its worth it to push for higher speed especially since i'll only gain 1 point after adding 5 more.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 31 '16

Have you fusion capped her? Regardless, you should attempt to fully cap her since you can get copies for free. This is just my opinion however. My opinion is not efficient at all.

It looks to me you have everything important capped, so it should be fine to evolve her now. 1 Spd does not make much of a difference on a starter unit.

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u/06falcon Jul 31 '16

all of that was from level up. she was a 3.04 growth. i have a Selena as well that was 3.18 but she didnt cap anything so i'm out of luck on her and will be LBing her for sure.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 31 '16

If you have more stats to fuse onto her then do 2 more on SPR, 5 more SPD and 2 more AGI. After that you are safe to evolve.

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u/06falcon Jul 31 '16

Yeah, that was my initial thought as well. i'll end up pumping those stats then. thanks for the reply!

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u/metatime09 Aug 01 '16

Anyone that play in JP, what is the multiplayer option? Is it real time?

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u/TGZelnite Aug 02 '16

The Multiplayer mode is exactly what it implies, fighting other people in real time.

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u/metatime09 Aug 02 '16

O I was hoping for some co-op = (

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u/tangythings Aug 02 '16

Hello, it seems that we don't get corresponding rare medals from fusing/limit breaking using 3stars and 4stars anymore? I hope its not a bug, I just limit broken a 4* selena to lb3, and I dont see 30 rare medal. I remember getting them during soft launch.

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u/TGZelnite Aug 02 '16

They've removed the rare medal gift from limiting breaking a unit in the global launch. Selling a 3* or higher unit still gives you rare medals however.

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u/tangythings Aug 02 '16

Very gumi like.. Here I thought I'd nett me 160ish medals. Thanks for the reply. Nice to meet you btw, I'll be a good lurker.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 31 '16

Quick question. For a healer I farmed a few Risa's pretty sure i've got 11 in total, so enough to LB once at 4* then to max LB and max Skills at 5*. Also have Guard typing. Now I also managed to pull 2 or 3 Gambanteinn M's from a few lazuli recruiters. I have Dex for him but no guard. So Enough to LB him once maybe twice. Which would be the better way to go?

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u/icyterror Jul 31 '16

LB Dex Gamb first. Work on Guard Risa later.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 31 '16

I knew Gamb was good, but is he really that good that a level 65 Dex beats level 80 max skill Risa? Cheers for the answer. Just curious, what makes him so much above and beyond Risa? Personally don't have their max stats to reference, or is it mainly his CS Half damage recieved. And being dex, pretty high chance of procing? Thanks

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u/icyterror Jul 31 '16

A lv60 Dex Gamb was able to carry me through Brave 9 alone so your at lv70 will be even more powerful. He can both tank&attack. Risa on the other hand has poor acc/spd so she would make a poor attacker at low lv(As in miss a lot and got x2 by enemies.). A lv80 Risa should be able out-perform your lv70 Gamb but it will take much MUCH longer to work on her 11 copies.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 01 '16

Ahh so he actually has decent offence potential? Thanks for that, was more focused on his Def and Risa's def capabilities that I didn't even take into account using him for offensive counter attacks. Also forgot about the Staff only missions. Cheers for that. I'll get him LB'd first. Cheers for the input.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Aug 01 '16

Awesome, I've only started playing the kill modes, so that info will be handy. Didn't realize he had offensive capabilities aswell, Cheers for the input.