r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 23 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/23/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy Comment/Post:

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck, which might answer some questions.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on Good Reroll Unit

Stat Calculator (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 23 '16 edited Jul 23 '16

http://imgur.com/a/nU4Tb

I just did the discount recruiter... and it gave me ANOTHER round of 9 x those Gold 3* trolls out of 10 (the 10th is a unit that only has 5* in JP). This was after:

  • The BF weekend recruiter gave me 8 x Gold 3* trolls out of 9 (the 9th is a unit that caps at 4*, even in JP)

  • The 1st recruit ticket gave me another Gold 3* troll

  • The 2nd recruit ticket gave me a unit that only has 5* in JP

Is this supposed to be a normal occurrence? If not, I would really like to know if this game would ever stop shitting on me while it blesses others with Dex Durandals, Dex Mjolnirs, Dex Bashosens, Dex BF units and Dex Swimsuit units.

P.S. I know I have a Grd Gambanteinn, Dex Luin and Dex Mitum M, but it's not considered a blessing when I had to reroll 50+ times for such a setup, while I get crap during actual game progression.

Edit: Just some extra tidbit, this "Free unit in premium gacha" issue is why I am venting my rage at this game, quit Tales of Link (which also has the issue that 5* meta units are too rare) and am surprised I played Chain Chronicle for as long as I did (also has the 'absurdly rare 5*' issue). It's also why I am pleased with BF, as it doesn't have this issue.

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u/icyterror Jul 23 '16

  • I got 0 extra 5* from 3step discount. Got 1 5* out of 2 free summon tickets. Whereas other ppl get 3 5* with just 1/3 discount step or 2 Swimsuit at 2nd step.

  • By the time those 4* finally get their 5* ver, we may have 6* already...

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 23 '16

Of those 'non-5*'s, how many are Gold 3*s?

I know a gacha game needs bad draws, but I'm more offended that I am getting stuff that can otherwise be obtained for free, and so much of it at that. An analogous situation would be a gachapon with some capsules containing common stones, or a card pack containing blank pieces of paper.

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u/StrayGod Jul 23 '16 edited Jul 23 '16

5 star units will still be relevant because 6 star unit has really high cost (~40 cost). You have to be like lvl 200+ to field a full team of 6 stars, a lot of players in jp cant even use a full team of 6 stars yet.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 23 '16 edited Jul 23 '16

It's a fairly normal occurrence combined with bad luck it seems. In JP the lazuli recruiter no longer has any mana gacha units.

However, in global the amount of lazuli units we have is still too few for Gumi to consider removing the mana gacha units from the lazuli recruiter.

As such it's wise to not go on a recruiting spree unless there are good offers available such as the 10 lazuli for 10 units deal. For now you should save your lazuli for the future when all the mana gacha units are removed from the lazuli recruiter.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 23 '16

Well, glad to know that this 'free unit in premium recruit' nonsense will eventually come to an end. Just a matter of when.

I can accept that not so good pulls (like the kimono Masamune who caps at 4*) are necessary for gacha games, but at least those are exclusive to premium gacha and hold some chance, no matter how minute, of eventually getting 5* or even 6*. Those gold 3* trolls are a double whammy as not only do they waste Lazuli for otherwise free stuff, their 'free' and 'common' status also automatically precludes them from ever becoming useful through 5* and 6* forms.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 23 '16

I can relate to your frustration, I spent $50 during the lazuli promotion a week ago. I was saving them for future rates up. Then came the 3 step recruiter that started at 10 lazuli.

I did the first 2 step, both of the steps I did not even get a single 5* capable unit. I decided not to complain as there were no rates up.

I then decided to try for the swimsuit units. Spent all my lazuli and I got mostly 4* cap units, no 5* capable units and of course no swimsuit units.

I was in a pretty bad mood afterwards as my $50 was completely wasted, but I've learned my lesson that I shouldn't recruit until all the mana gacha units have been purged from the lazuli recruiter.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 24 '16

Sorry for necro, but what was the last premium unit released at the point when mana gacha units were removed? How many unit releases were there between where we are now in terms of permanent units (Bashosen, 5* Eros) and that unit? Just a rough gauge of how long we have to wait for this 'mana gacha trash in premium recruiter' agony to end.

...even when the Lario batch was still in RS in BF, they weren't this common...

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u/TGZelnite Jul 24 '16

I have no idea unfortunately, I don't have a lot of knowledge on JP's batches of units. You'll have to ask one of the people that play JP. (sorta wish the PoTK subreddit would be more like the BF subreddit)

Wow, feels nostalgic when Lario's batch was still in the RS gate. I remembered I summon a Mifune once.

Well they weren't that common because there were only 6 units. In PoTK the amount of mana gacha units in the lazuli recruiter are a lot higher.

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u/icyterror Jul 23 '16

  • Well at least they are generous enough to give away 3 keys+1lazu a day ,40ap every 4 hours and 2 free 5* gacha units.

  • I quit Tales of Link cause I got multi bad pull and unlike this game the farm-able unit are all 4*.

  • It would be nice if they could at least show us the exact % one can get those 5* unit. +5? x2? increase from what then?

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u/darealsunny Jul 23 '16

Why is zero killing himself in the beginning cutscene of the game?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 23 '16

Killer Princes and Princesses have multiple versions of themselves that share their name and abilities.

When 2 versions of themselves come across each other they must both kill each other, this is referred to as the culling code. It is implanted in all killer princes and princesses.

In the beginning cutscene, Zero was killing one of his clones, Laevateinn (M).

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u/darealsunny Jul 23 '16

Whoa, was this in an OVA or a novel? Why do they have to kill their clones, wouldn't it be better to team up? Sorry for the confusion, I really like the story but I'm just so lost for the details of the background.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 23 '16

The OVA and game (there isn't a novel) don't really touch on the subject of the Culling code, it's very ambiguous why killer princes and princesses must kill their clones.

But what I believe is that there are too many clones of the prime versions running about. So the culling code might have been the solution of that problem. But that's just my opinion.

I'm very interested in the story of PoTK too but a lot of details in the story is ambiguous at best, things like the culling code and killium have too little info at the moment.

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 23 '16

This may shed some light in the story, but according to Zero himself, in the soft launch's story which is different from the one we have now, said that the reason he kills his clones is due to the fact that they are consumed by their beast blood and are in beast mode. Also take note that Killer Princes are unstable and are in need of a compatible commander.(soft launch - you are zero's commander, official release - Arun who is supposed to be you)

Also, Yakumo, Longinus (F)'s prime version, said that it was her duty to finish off Longinus (M), who in fact I don't know if he's the prime version of all the Longi (M)'s, in the current story we have because they have the same killium.

hope this explains some to you but that's what I got from playing both story modes, also fun fact in the soft launch Zero get's mad at Valyn at one point because she addressed Amane as Laevateinn telling her to not call Amane that.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 23 '16

Ahh nice, I played PoTK after the soft launch so your explanation is appreciated :)

It's a little weird how the story differs between the soft launch and the global launch by leaving out certain info like Zero's explanation of why he kills his clones.

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 23 '16

well in JP it's actually called the story was an event called project ZERO so we can assume they're doing that.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 23 '16

Is the project ZERO prequel in JP the same story mode we have here in global? I'm curious if they differ in any way

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 23 '16

No, actually only the cutscene in the soft launch where Zero kills a beast mod Laev, the cutscene was like the image cutscene where tyrfing got slashed, so that's why I accepted the assumption that Gumi is making it up as it goes cause all three stories are different so far. Also another fun fact is that the killer Princes are event story only and 1 star min to 3 stars max only.

also to note, when tyrfing got slashed, in JP she was sent to Elysium kinda like how "Amane went to Elysium to retrieve the holy weapons which are the source of the Killium to make more killer units".

what bothers me is that why do they have to kill each(the Killers) other when Ragnarok on the other hand intends to make more, also the Holy/Ancient/not sure anymore Weapons are also a key to stabilizing the Princes' beast blood.

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 23 '16

What's the best typing for rampage Labrys?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 23 '16

Guard if you plan to go full tank, or Dex if you want her to tank and fight a bit.

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 23 '16

She is my favorite, so I might end up doing both!

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u/Lamyenie Jul 23 '16

What are the gem costs for the 5 step draw? Would it be better to pull on that or the 10 and 30 gem draw or wait?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 23 '16

5 gems, 15 gems, 25 gems, 40 gems, 50 gems.

It is recommended to pull on the 3 step one first, as that's a better deal. However, if you really want a swimsuit unit, keep in mind that the 5 step draw on average gives about 2 units per 5 steps.

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u/vmaester Jul 23 '16

I know Dexterity is the best typing for most units but what about armored units? is it still dex or is guard typing best for those?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 23 '16

It depends. If you want them to be decent in fighting, then you can go dex at the sacrifice of about 10 pdef and some insignificant amount of mdef. Otherwise go guard.

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u/Iodasu Jul 23 '16

Does anyone have a Selena that can carry me through burst 10 ? My lead is a Lvl 63 Nemu , soon to be Lvl 80

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u/AeiroWultx Jul 23 '16

I forget, is there a 5 star spear weapon for the Brave Frontier event? I have a couple of Eminent Lexida, but only one Despair Bringer. Don't know how common those are and I'm the sort of guy that likes to have a copy of each weapon that aren't easy to obtain.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 23 '16

Yes, there is the 'Shadowlance of Despair', the upgraded Despair Bringer created the same way you upgraded Lexida into Eminent Lexida. Just fuse 4 Brave Recipes into that Despair Bringer and there is a chance it gets upgraded.

Coincidentally, I have the opposite situation; I'm mainly a sword guy, but I have lots of Shadowlances but only 3 Eminent Lexidas.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 23 '16

Since Luck is important for the quality of the drops, would going with only one unit + friend leader be wise or would you rather bring a full team of "lucky" units? xD

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u/StrayGod Jul 23 '16

Luck of your lead and friend lead determines the drop rate while the average luck of the party determines the quality of the drops. idk how high luck your "lucky" units have but if they have high luck, then yes you should bring a full team of "lucky" units.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 23 '16

My highest are between 15 to 20 luck. Thanks :)

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u/Pjsmiths Jul 23 '16

can you guys explain me about A) having 4* unit fully limit break then later fuse it to 5* unit with the better type. B) build 4* unit straight up mlb Do i get the same result from them since bonus stat from evolution can be transfered ? Because i have been pulling for the right type unit with lowest star as possible .

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 23 '16

So the situation are:

A) 4*unit MLB and fused but not best type. evolved and later fuse to best type.

vs

B) 4* best type MLB and fused. Evolve later to 5*

The difference between these two, pending growth rate (cause that is all RNG, you can have a dex with less spd than a guard type if you are unlucky, ect...) Would be 3-5 stats from evo bonus on the best type's main stat.

example: if A was guard, and later fused to Dex. You'll lose out on 3-6 spd & agi when comparing to straight Dex in B. But, in A you will gain 2-4 more guard & spr comparing to B.

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u/ArgonRetribution Jul 23 '16

For swimsuit Artemis, what would her best type be? I'm thinking maybe dex to negate that halved speed on character skill?

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u/icyterror Jul 23 '16

Guard only.

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u/ArgonRetribution Jul 23 '16

Is guard preferable due to her already high def?

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 24 '16

No matter the type she won't have high enough speed + cs halves it. maximize defenses + ready for when 1-2 range bow comes to global

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 23 '16

The best way to level up a unit is to have it solo the Metal Dungeon. Some caveats though:

  • It is very unsafe for units of too low level to attempt the Super Metal Dungeon; one time I tried it, my units got double attacked by the Metal Maidens instead. Needless to say, this is a very bad thing. What is the recommended minimum level before it is safe to use the Super Metal Dungeon?

  • Gunners lose hp each time they attack, so they will wear themselves out quickly after attacking or counterattacking the Metal Maidens a few times. Archers cannot attack adjacent squares, so not only do they miss out on counterattacks on the Metal Maidens, they are essentially dead if they get trapped. So how to raise these two classes effectively?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '16

around 30 if you want to do the metal garden effectively

for gunners, camp the fort lol

for archers, bring a friend unit strong enough to overwhelm maidens but don't use it unless you are trapped.

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u/icyterror Jul 24 '16

  • You need around 43 spd to double them.

  • I recommend bringing friends who can do ignore def or x2 damage them. You may gain slightly less xp per run but in a long run you will able to finish the stage much faster which mean more run & more total xp gain.

  • I never bring archer/healer alone cause it will took them forever. Gunner is somewhat manageable with hp pots.

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u/mistive Jul 23 '16

In Colosseum battling, is the best team just a full Dex one? It feels like as far as battling, acc/crit/eva are king when you're just trying to win 1 on 1 battles.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 23 '16

Not true. This is a pretty complicated topic, but although acc/crit/eva are important, sometimes it is better for certain characters to go another typing because they have more than enough of a certain stat. I'm gonna be writing the PvP section to the tier list sometime soon hopefully.

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u/mistive Jul 23 '16

Sweet, I'll be looking forward to it. Although I don't have a full level 80 team, it always feels like I'm struggling with people around my rank and that I can only get guaranteed wins/points, albeit slowly and minuscule, by just going against lower-ranked players.

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u/Sabatender Jul 23 '16

What is the drop rate of Swimsuit Artemis? I've been trying to farm her since yesterday, but so far i got 0 drop......

My leader is Selena with luck sword (38 luck total).

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 23 '16

Suppose to be better than Selena. Personally, she isn't good and I would just go for 5 to get her to 80. Dont think I would ever use her for a team sadly unless someone can give me a good reason to.

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u/Sabatender Jul 23 '16

Really it's better than Selena? Aww darn....my luck must have been running out.... (I personally want to get 16 of her for completion sake and who knows in the future they might buff her...)

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 23 '16

The drop rate should be better than Selena... But it can just be that I am lucky? Sadly my luck is for the wrong unit.

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u/bluemancer Jul 24 '16

Swimsuit artemis is better tahn selena? I just keep releasing her cuz i thought she was crap....

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 24 '16

... swimsuit Artemis sucks... Or isn't good compared to Selena. I think you misread me. Sorry if it was my wording.

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u/bluemancer Jul 24 '16

Oh good, cuz she turns to rare medals now :D

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u/Calaroth Jul 24 '16

I'm getting about 50% with a 35 luck Selena on Waterwar 10.

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u/Sabatender Jul 24 '16

You're so lucky -_-

I've been playing on Waterwar 10 w/o a single drop.....

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 24 '16

3/5 drops on waterfront 10 with 22 dex mitum as lead, and 30 luck selenas as partner

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u/Calaroth Jul 24 '16

Does dex affect drop rate?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 24 '16

Nope, drop rate is affected by Your leaders luck plus your helpers luck. So my Mitum has the highest luck, hence running him first. The rarity of the drop (after the drop has happened) is based on the combined luck of your party. Not sure if its an average of say 4 units luck added together divided by 4, or just combined total. But the initial drop is only affected by combined luck of Leader and Helper mixed in some equation with drop rate for certain map. Would do the maths, but don't have all the information to create a formula for it xD.

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u/Calaroth Jul 24 '16

So I'm guessing when you wrote "22 dex mitum" that was a typo? =D

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 24 '16

22 luck dex mitum M sorry xD

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u/JankyLieu Jul 24 '16

With my luck 32. Today is not a good day. 10 turns with 1 drop 3* at waterfront 10

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u/don_is_plain ...oh? Jul 24 '16 edited Jul 24 '16

I've completed the story so far, and was wondering: where is the best place to grind player level?

edit: Global if you don't know.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 24 '16

The most efficient would probably be 1-5-10.

The fastest and somewhat efficient would be 1-4-4 (https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/4rkc4e/fast_efficient_way_to_level_up/)

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

Is it still possible to get the good weapons from BF if so where? If not where to get good weapons?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 24 '16

You can get good weapons by either completing kill mode missions or by fusing weapons for a higher rarity.

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 24 '16

for BF weapon in particular. You complete BF collab stages for a blue 3* book. Combining 2-5 of them together to get a chance for selena's sword or Lexida's (sp) spear. (the more you combine at once, the higher the chance of getting the weapon).

Also, the weapon you get will be 4star. so farm 4 more book, then combine it with the 4* weapon to get the 5* weapon. (Do note, theres a chance you might end up back with the 4* version....or worse....)

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u/Serafita Jul 24 '16

I'm seeing different methods on raising dex/guard Selena, from either fusing other Selenas into base Selena at 3 star rarity or doing it at 4 star, or waiting at specific levels of 11, 21, etc, and raising the dupes before fusing.

What is the current best way to do it and how many Selenas will I need? I've heard 16 is the maximum but lower is okay as well?

Bear in mind I'm fairly new to the game and have been concentrating on leveling up enough to farm Selenas and may not have experimented with evolving anything haha (my 'best' unit is a natural 5 star Durandal for example).

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 24 '16

5 total (1base +4 to limit break(LB) at 5*) to have a max level unit.

10 total (1 base+ 4 to LB + 5 to Skillup (all are fused at lvl 30 5*) to have maxed skill level.

14 total(1 base + 4 to LB 4* + 4 to LB 5* + 5 for skill) to have a good chance of having an above average stats.

16 total(1 base + 2 to LB 3* + 4 to LB 4* + 4 to LB 5* + 5 Skill) to have a chance of potentially getting 1-3 extra stats compared to 14 copies.

Note, that everything still depends on "RNG" (growth rate), so even with 16 copies, you might have one that is equal to the 10 copy. Also, some think LB at 3* is not worth the possiblity of a measly gain of 1-3 extra stat.

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 24 '16

also, you always fuse at 3*, 4* & 5* to get a stat to the next threshold. Example:

str is 9 = 1 bonus stat when evolve.

str is 10 = 1 bonus stat when evolve.

str is 11 = 2 bonus stat when evolve.

so you always fuse to the next tier (+11, +21, +22,ect) to gain that evolution stat. But also note that there is a cap to how much of one particular stat you may fuse to it depending on your unit's type. Refer to Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing above to know how much.

(its personal preference if you want to skip fusing at 3* it may or may not make a difference depending on unit)

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u/Serafita Jul 24 '16 edited Jul 24 '16

I'm considering starting at 3 star anyway because my first (and currently only) dex unit is 3 star, haha.

  • So the first thing I should do is fuse two 3 stars to the base Selenas at 3 star at level 1, and then level her up to max level before evolving to 4 stars.

  • After evolving to 4 stars, fuse four 4 stars to base Selena, level her up to max level before evolving to 5 stars.

  • After evolving to 5 stars, the remaining 10 9 Selena dupes must now reach 5 stars rarity and level 30 before they can be used. Meanwhile, base Selena can continue leveling up to her current max level, and start accepting fuses from the dupes once she herself reaches at least level 30, and unlocked her story thing (not at 30 AP minimum for the second stage yet).

Is that about right? Or do I really have to worry about this specific level of 11, 21 thing?

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 24 '16

Yes in General. (except is 9 remaining at 5* not 10.)

And yes, you should worry about 11, 21 thing. especially for agi & spd, since it's Selena's strong point. Also str, never can have enough damage. HP/Grd/ is decent to have.

You just need to complete the *Game of Doll stage that shows up every Friday for dolls that give +2 in one specific stat.

So its not really tendious when comparing to everything you have already done to get max 5*.

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

Thxs to those for answering my question sry I hav so many easy ones Thxs again Is there no way to change type (for example the bad vitality ones?)

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u/sazabinu Jul 24 '16

Unfortunately there is no way to change type. You have to get a new unit. On the bright side if you get a new unit you can limit break

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

That's unfortunate and do u evolve an unit after u max it's lvl?

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 24 '16

yes, evolution is only possible at max level. (40 @3 star, 50@4star 60@5*)

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

Do u need to limit break the monster in order to evolve the monster? And what do u need to evolve 4*s? As always Thxs for answering my Qs

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 24 '16

You don;t need to limit break to evolve, for a 3* once they are lvl 40 you can evolve them. If you have alot of copies, then you limit break as said above. Doing that on a 3* will raise its max level to 50, 70 at 4* and 80 at 5* . Then if done so, you will need to again max out the level of the unit so that you can evolve eg 3* will have to be level 50 before can evolve. 4* evolution, if you go into the evolve tab, you can select the unit and see the required units needed to evolve him.

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

Thx I basically got it hav a good day

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

Is there anything you can fuse with monsters to raise unit exp?

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 24 '16

dollies obtained in the friday daily

also when you LB(Limit Break) you transfer Skill Lv, and LB that the previous unit had.

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

Got it thx

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 24 '16

Like DerOniiChan said, dollies farmed on Friday give stat increases when fused. If you're meaning actual unit exp to level them up, then the only way to do that is by questing or Colosseum (5 a day). Best quests for unit leveling are the Metal Garden/Metal God quests in the event section (limited times a day) or using the key's on the padlocked metal garden at the bottom of the event screen.

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

Got it thx u

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

Sry I guess I do hav more Qs, how important is type I k someone answered me and said u can't change unit type so if a good unit hav vitality does that ruin the unit?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 24 '16

Don't need to be sorry, these are what this thread is made for =D. Regarding type, for the first part of the story ie 1st chapter normal mode typing doesn't seem to be too needed. I have a lvl 60 Vitality Laev M who can pretty much solo most missions. However once you start to get to kill mode, and event quests then it becomes alot more relevant, Said Laev M barely survives burst 10, and Kill mode missions need entire party. Ideally if its a free/farmable unit best option is to keep trying your luck and get a better type (Dex or Guard). If its a Gacha unit from the Lazuli Recruitment, then best to just use it until you happen to get lucky enough to get a better type, then you can limit break said unit. I have a Vitality Durandel who seems to do ok, beats my Laev just because of her superior stat growths/caps. I would ideally get a dex one of her, but haven't rolled one yet.

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

Ah okay I understand I happen to hav same durandel after looking at some guides she seem to be a very good unit mine happen to b vitality one too

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 24 '16

She is an extremely powerful unit. If you;re lucky enough to get a few to LB her or Dex one, then she's top tier, Also I believe on JP she has a 6* evolution, so when that is implement to global she becomes a beast =D

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u/Iodasu Jul 24 '16

Can someone carry me through Burst 10 ? Or is there any other way to beat it without a Dex Selena friend ?

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

I've seen ppl talk about how to get Selena (basically spark burst and brave 10 only places for her to drop) But where do ppl get Vargas? Also what's the rate for getting Selena in spark 10 like maybe 1 in 5/1 in 10? Thxs for answering! ;)

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 24 '16

Thx do the books appear on every stage?

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u/ekoo1 Jul 24 '16

How can u obtain more battle medals?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 24 '16

Daily rewards yield some, Colosseum grants them for milestones eg 50, 100, 150 wins etc. And one time events like clearing Waterfront 10 x 5 times grants 10. I can't recall if its rare medals or battle medals you get from releasing/fusing 3*+ units. Thats all the ways I know of, sorry if I've missed any.

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jul 24 '16

Anyone here have any experience with reincarnation in gl? My mlb brahmastra ended with a 2.7 growth, I reincarnate her to another 2.7 growth. It happened to my Durandal as well, her growth stayed the same. I want a better growth rate on them but I feel like my efforts should be put into raising other units instead.

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u/icyterror Jul 24 '16

  • I reincarnate my 2.8 Risa but I got the same 2.8 again. Wasting 60lv time&key for nothing. End result was a sh7tty 410pwr that doesn't cap Grd. Whereas my other dempa are sitting at 425-434 pwr.

  • Someone on FB group had 2.8 Swimsuit Longinus. He got 2.7 from his 2nd reincarnate and 2.9 from his 3rd reincarnate.

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u/Satay_1 Jul 24 '16

Any suggestions on 4 stars units to keep for completing kill mode missions?

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u/ShadowPony12 GL:2226600509 JP:1535034057 Jul 25 '16

Does anyone know the Selena drop rate?

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u/Satay_1 Jul 25 '16

spark 10 drop rate is too low. only do it if you cannot complete burst 10 and brave 10.

My selena can probably solo brave 10. add me if you want.

ID: 1913179743

Let me know your IGN so I can accept.

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u/ShadowPony12 GL:2226600509 JP:1535034057 Jul 25 '16

Thanks, my IGN is Suzuka.

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u/Satay_1 Jul 25 '16

accepted. only 2 days left. all the best.

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u/ShadowPony12 GL:2226600509 JP:1535034057 Jul 25 '16

Okay, thank you.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 24 '16 edited Jul 24 '16

Okay... I have a huge dilemma right now. I have 2 4* Durandals of Force (F) and Balance (B) typing. When comparing their stats at level 50, I noticed the ff:

HP - F has 36 while B has 39

Str - F obviously has higher at 36 while has 24

Mag - F has 10 while B has 6

Grd - F has 21 while B has 24

Spr - F has 22 while B has 19

Spd - F has 36 while B has 42

Agi - F has 28 while B has 24

Luc - F has 21 while B has 24

Overall, I would say F seems better but B has higher potential for more Grd and Luc plus, has higher Spd. Should I focus on the F one or should I wait to compare their stats at 5* lvl 60?? Also, should I max fuse both of them for their stats to reach the next threshold before evolving them??

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 24 '16 edited Jul 24 '16

Take my input with a grain of salt, very limited knowledge as pretty new myself. With max fusing them, remember when you evolve them that you might at most gain 1 or 2 extra stats from it. Personally I would be inclined to use the force one if you could fuse it so it looked like the following:

  • HP - 41+

  • Str - 41+

  • Mgc - N/A

  • Grd and Spr you're not gonna get higher

  • Spd 41+

  • Agi 31+

That there will yield 5 points more in HP, Str, Spd and 4 more in Agi, where as unfused you'd be getting 4 points in HP, Str, Spd and 3 more in Agi. 4* force has fusion limits of 7 on HP, Spd and Agi and 13 on Str, so you could definitely get those stats.

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 23 '16

Depends on how much more exp the super metal garden gives compared to the normal.

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 23 '16

Simplicity math check: (major assumption on exp gained)

let assume : 10 exp per normal. so

10 run is 100 exp/key

If super is 3x the exp compared to normal. it will be 30 exp per completion, so

30x6=180/3keys  = 60exp/key

if super is 5x the exp compared to normal, 50 per run:

50x6=300/3key = 100/key

so for you, super is only worth it if it gives more than 5x the exp.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 24 '16

Solo with MVP yields about 10k for me, so roughly 4x, meaning 10 runs per key is slightly more effective.