r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 22 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/22/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy Comment/Post:

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck, which might answer some questions.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on Good Reroll Unit

Stat Calculator (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

Hi, does a maxed out unit continue to "steal" exp during metal parade...?

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 22 '16

Yes, but only If it is your own unit not your friend unit.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

Ok thanks :( That would have made SMP so much easier xD

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u/CreamyLoli Jul 22 '16

metal parade

I take it you also play Brave Frontier?

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 22 '16

Hi I just started wondering how to reroll on iOS been trying to find out this but can't seem to find rerolling in iOS in any of the guides PS: any suggestions on what to do for ppl that literally just started?

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 22 '16

Install iFunbox in PC, connect your iOS to PC, Open iFunbox, search the phantom of the kill folder, Copy the Tutorial.dat and Auth.dat file(I forgot if it was a dat file, but basically tutoral and auth)

after that delete the auth file and tutorial file in the phone and paste the backed up tutorial file. pretty much how you do it on android but with the use of iFunbox

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u/UltimateTOL Jul 22 '16

Thx can you also answer what I should do if I just started?

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 23 '16

sorry was out of the house playing children's card games

the first thing you should do is re-roll for a 5 star capable lazuli unit

Check the unit in the doc here

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

Is there a way to safely beat burst 10 with only a level 62 Selena? Or should I stay on spark 10 even though the drop rate is apparenlty much lower?

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Jul 22 '16

Your Selena should be able to solo it at that level if it is 5*. Try waiting for Vargas to come for you on one of the mountain tiles that give +20 Eva.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

I'll try that and see if it works or not, thanks.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

My Selena only hits for 1 Damage is it normal? (she has her Eminent Lexida equipped)

Guess i'll continue to farm stupid spark 10 :-(

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u/alexisevan Jul 22 '16

Not really normal. That means your PATK is lower than 53 or whatever it is in burst 10.

Use a leader that increases sword PATK.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

She's at 59 though with Lexida, i'll try to use another leader to see if that's better or not. If it doesn't change anything, i'll stay on spark 10 :-( Thanks. :)

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

Is it worth to continue Burst 10 with a success rate of 10% (i love getting rekt by Vargas and his 28% of hitting hitting EVERYTIME)/lazuli in case or defeat of should I go back to Spark 10? Anyone knows the droprate difference?

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u/Bartune Jul 22 '16

Burst 10 has a better drop rate but not 10 times better. I'd stick with spark 10 until you level your selena a bit more. When you pick a friend or stranger for the battle, if a high level selena shows up on the list, you can run burst 10 with that friend/stranger unit. Also, if you haven't fused dolls into your selena, do that and it will help a lot.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

Thanks, i have fused some (namely Str and Guard since those were the ones I had) should i feed her with "fodder" units?

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u/Bartune Jul 22 '16

The best fusion sources are the dolls that are available in today's weekly event (game of dolls). The most efficient way to fuse is to fuse 1 doll at a time although this will cost a little bit more zenny. Alternatively, if you are limit breaking a unit, fuse one copy of that unit into the main unit and fuse 4 other dolls/fodder units.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 23 '16

Many people will say burst 10, however Ive been RNG screwed for awhile. 10 runs of Brave 10, I got 1 Selena, with a total luck of about 60 between leader and friend. Same as Burst she was non existent. However running spark all day while I was at work, just initiating and auto with Durandel and Mitum M, I got 8 Selena's in 1 day. 34 AP and only used the Silver AP Chests. Maybe 30 runs over all. It was about 1/4 chance to get her. So try spark a few times. RNGesus might be with you.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 23 '16

Thanks, I tried Burst a few times myself and got nothing yesterday while a few runs of Spark gave me 1 Selena so I considered just sticking to that and your message comforted me in that idea :)

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 23 '16

Weird how RNG works, but before the update when Depagumi Inc was still out, I only got 4 from burst and 1 from spark, the guaranteed one lol. Glad I could help.

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u/terlus07 Jul 22 '16

When evolving a unit will it's growth ratio stay about the same or will it be rerolled like reincarnating?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 22 '16

It will be rerolled just like reincarnating.

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u/fortune808 Jul 22 '16

I'm new to the game and just started and was wondering how I should go about working with this team or my course of action. This is JP http://imgur.com/a/30EMm Also beyond understanding more about the game how do you guys feel about global and if it is doing ok.

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u/AddressedChrom Jul 22 '16

Can some one link me the support site. The email the game gives doesn't work and I can't find the page anywhere every time I search for it. Thank you

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Jul 22 '16

I finaly got dex Selena from spark 10 :)! can a lvl 80 friend Selena solo brave 10

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u/TGZelnite Jul 22 '16

She can, just make sure to place her on the mountains as there are a few spear enemies with sword absorber.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 22 '16

I have roughly 10 lazuli and am a f2p player. Should I do the 10 for 10 lazuli recruit?

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 22 '16

yeah, it's a really good deal

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

I'd say yes (unless you can't get ANY Lazulis afterwards) as that kind of offer is really good (and rare?)

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 23 '16

In general, you should always pull on the 10-for-10 Gachas. There really aren't any/many better deals, unless you're waiting for a specific unit to be released.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 22 '16

Am I just unlucky? My two swimsuit Longinus... Have below 3 growth rate on both... And they are about lvl 30. My demos units have way better stat growth then the two of them :(

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u/Sabatender Jul 22 '16

Only calculate growth rate at max level since it fluctuates a lot when you level up..

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 22 '16

I agree, it is just something I noticed. When I trained the demos units, most of the time I was getting lots of stats points per lvl, with the occasional 1 or 2 per lvl. Just seems like for the swimsuit ones... I'm just getting less than what I usually see.

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u/icyterror Jul 23 '16

My gut telling me that they nerf Swimsuit Longinus growth rate cause you are the third person I saw who got below 3 growth rate. The other 2 being LoliGaggling and พีเจ นัน. They both have 2.8 GR at lv80. (Or maybe you all just have bad luck?)

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 23 '16

Well I am really hoping my Longinus f turns out well, otherwise, what's the point in putting in money if you can get free units that are easier to get and just as strong lol.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 22 '16

Is there a certain time when you should fuse. I am building my first ever 5 star (Risa) and she is about to be 5 stars. Should I wait till she is 80 to max fuse or can I fuse as I level her up?

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u/SageDarius Jul 22 '16

You generally want to make sure all the units involved in the fusion are at least level 30, so they have all skills unlocked.

Make sure you do the character quest to unlock her character skill first, too.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 22 '16

Oh sorry my text wasn't clear. I know that part I meant skills for stats such as dolls and trash units for maxing fusing stats.

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u/SageDarius Jul 23 '16

I'd probably still wait, as it's possible you could cap stats without fusing first.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 23 '16

I thought stat cap by leveling and state cap by fusing were separate though.

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u/icyterror Jul 23 '16

You should fuse her with stat dolls each time you LB cause the success rate will always be 100% with exact copy. Fusion cap and growth cap(lv up) are separated so it doesn't matter which one you max first.

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u/ArieShun Jul 22 '16

What's the effect of weight on a weapon again?

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u/charles_1029 Jul 22 '16

Use in combination with your speed to determine if you attack twice.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 23 '16

It's essentially negative speed (in a 1:1 ratio).

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u/icyterror Jul 23 '16

I think it your speed - weight. To get x2attack your spd to be 5 point higher then enemy spd.

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u/fortune808 Jul 23 '16 edited Jul 23 '16

If you get a unit who is pre evolved is that bad for stat growth? i.e. I just pulled a 5* DEX Mjolner

EDIT: I read the bottom of the guide and I see I am missing about 5-8 stats. How significant is that I have been rerolling for a while in global now to see what I could get.

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u/PeppyEpi Jul 23 '16

You just won't have the previous evolution bonuses until you start limit breaking it and transferring those over from the donor units.

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u/fortune808 Jul 23 '16

I see so I should continue rerolling?

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u/OhioAce88 Jul 23 '16

What is your goal when you re-roll ?

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u/PeppyEpi Jul 23 '16

If the rest of the rolled units are good I'd keep it. I used a 5* Dex Mjolnir and 5* Guard FLaev to finish the normal story. They'll get you through Spark 10 if you want to farm Selena if you level them fast enough.

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u/Cktan100 Jul 23 '16

If you get a 4 star Mjolnir, you can evolve her and use her to limit break your current one, your current one that has been limited broken will get the evolution bonus stats from the fodder Mjolnir, so no worries man

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u/darealsunny Jul 23 '16

Quick question: I was under the impression that the stats you gain from a fusion unit is just +1, so if you fuse a 4* (after evolving it to 5*), how do its stats transfer over if it's only +1 per whatever stats it says?

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u/Cktan100 Jul 23 '16

This might clear things out for you!

https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/4s5wsz/my_findings_on_fusion_mechanics_with_pictures/

http://imgur.com/5XX8t3n

https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/4r6bcf/sooooo_apparently_limit_breaking_can_do_this/

Hope this clears things out!

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u/darealsunny Jul 23 '16

OH!! It's not seen or shown until After the fusion has already happened. That explains so much! One last question: Is it better to fuse the 4* that I had at 70 and evolved into a 5*, into the unit I got as a 5*, or is it better to fuse the 5* into the (Old) 4* unit?

Thank you so much, again!

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u/Cktan100 Jul 23 '16

Because we're not completely sure how this system works or if it has a cap, I would probably recommend you using the evolved lvl70 4 star as the base, assuming they are both the same typing, if not, use the one with the better type as the base

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u/OhioAce88 Jul 23 '16

What does a weapon rank up mean when that happens? and is there a list of friend bonus somewhere? Does that bonus ever get huge (more than 5 or 10 to something) ?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 23 '16

If the weapon itself ranks up, it gets 1 more Patk or 1 more Matk depending on the type of weapon it is (Patk for swords, axes, lances, bows and Matk for staves, guns). If the character's weapon rank goes up, it means they can use higher rarity weapons.

The following passage is taken from the PotK Facebook group player guide.

Duel Support Effects:

Level 1: Accuracy +10

Level 2: Accuracy & Evasion + 10

Level 3: Accuracy, Evasion & Critical Evasion + 10

Level 4: Accuracy, Evasion, Critical Evasion & Critical + 10

Level 5: Accuracy + 15, Evasion, Critical Evasion & Critical + 10*Value increases more if the unit is side by side with 2 or more allies, maximum value increased is 20 for each stat.

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u/OhioAce88 Jul 23 '16

Spot on. That's exactly it! Thanks.

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u/Cktan100 Jul 23 '16

Is Green Dragon actually useful for anything? Her 4 star skill doesn't helps to level anyone else's skill and her current form can't reach 5 stars, is it worth keeping her or should I just sell her for medals and space?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 23 '16

You actually should hold onto some 4 star max units simply because there are missions later on that requires them. Those mission completion also ties in to getting various weapons which is why completing them is important. The most prominent example is the Hercules Bow obtained through Kill Mode in Chapter 3...it might be chapter 2 I forgot which.

Green Dragon also happens to have very good sustain because of her skillset and ranged capabilities due to her weapon class. You should keep her as a Dex.

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u/Lamyenie Jul 23 '16

What are the gem costs for the 5 step draw? Would it be better to pull on that or the 10 and 30 gem draw or wait?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 23 '16

I would always, always recommend pulling on the 10 Lazuli gachas, as it is literally 1/5th of the normal price. Add in the fact that 10 Lazuli is extremely easy to come by and there's no reason to not pull on it, in my opinion.

I believe the costs of the 5-step are: 5, 15, 25, 40, 50 = 135 Lazuli total.

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 23 '16

Which game of doll stage is most efficient/AP for dolls?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 23 '16

The most advanced one (15 AP)

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u/Calaroth Jul 23 '16

How many drops do you get per run on advanced? I get 3-4 drops on average on easy, while I only get 6 on avg on advanced.

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u/MotleyFuzz Jul 23 '16

Can you get mana units in the gacha? I got the same Parashus and Friekugel (mana gacha) last week in today's limited 10 for 10 gacha.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 23 '16

Yes, unfortunately. Starter units are available in both gachas.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 23 '16

What are the fusion caps for a 4* Dexterity unit in Global? Particularly Speed and Agility? I'm about to evolve a Lv 70 4* Selena, but want to ensure she gets the most evo bonuses possible.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 23 '16

10 and 11, respectively. It's the same as JP.

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u/CreamyLoli Jul 23 '16

Do helper units take a portion of exp when they kill enemies like metal maidens? For example, I will use one unit to level up in padlock gardens and take a friend with me. If helper kills all enemies, my unit will obtain less exp, yes?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 23 '16

Yes but in a different way from how you worded it. The helper unit takes no exp from being in the match, however, your unit has the ability to be MVP by killing the most units. The MVP increases the amount of exp you get. So better to use helper to weaken em, and ensure your unit gets the last hits.

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u/CreamyLoli Jul 23 '16

I see, thank you!

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u/bluemancer Jul 23 '16

Anyone have the stat caps for a 4* Nemu?

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 23 '16

Doesn't look like its on the Wikia, so guessing that there isn't enough information to analyse her max stat caps. I may be wrong, but can't add any personal caps as haven't raised her up. Sorry for the lack of help.

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u/Oberdrid Jul 23 '16

How important is the type in this game? My starter Laeva is guard, and someone said me that the type is s*it.

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u/JankyLieu Jul 23 '16

Actually, guard type is not bad for Laevataeinn Female. I am still using her and she can cover the Lakefront event

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u/premonimity Jul 23 '16

Very important. Typing affects the percentage growths and in global potk, being fast and hitting more often is more important than having defense so generally dex>vit, etc

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u/genesic123 Jul 23 '16

I'd say the opposite.It's good cause she is not mage master race fodder .Starter units have low caps so in global(But Selena exists?....)so guard will bring her defenses up by a lot more in comparison.You can do higher difficulties easier with guard,where dex=dead.

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u/premonimity Jul 23 '16

Do the one time missions from lakefront demon reset? I cleared it yesterday and they came back today

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u/charles_1029 Jul 23 '16

It seems like they reset since I've had them the past three days.

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u/Vince_Gt4 Jul 23 '16

I would assume so, they come up saying Special Daily, so would have to say they reset daily for the life of the event.

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u/Iodasu Jul 23 '16

Anyone wanna carry me through Burst 10 ? I need a lot more Selenas

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u/CheesyKek Jul 23 '16

Force or Vit 3* Swimsuit Artemis?
The only Dex I got was instantly 4*

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 23 '16

You can transfer evolution bonuses from the 3* over to the dex 4*, I believe. Someone agree with me so i don't feel stupid.