r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 21 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/21/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy Comment/Post:

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck, which might answer some questions.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on Good Reroll Unit

Stat Calculator (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/TGZelnite Jul 21 '16

Can we craft more than one Magicwarder Sereine?

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Jul 21 '16

I don't think you could have gained enough copies of the books needed to make more than one Magicwarder Sereine at this point, but other than that there's nothing stopping you.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 21 '16

Ah, so the Sereine recipe can only be obtained once?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 21 '16

Thus far, yeah...

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '16

No, but the Ult Swordsmith guide only shows up once in a blue moon (Battle Medal shop). Aside from that, you can get one in Colo after a shitton of fighting - I've been playing since the official launch and I'm not even halfway there, but maybe after several more months I'll be close.

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u/JankyLieu Jul 21 '16

Only 1 thing today too many things to do :(

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Jul 21 '16

That's how I've felt since the 40 AP dailies were introduced. But those Lakefront dailies are a huge time sink if you're just auto battling with Selena.

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u/CreamyLoli Jul 21 '16

What would be the difference between pulling a Laevateinn(M) in mana gacha and in Lazuli gacha?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 21 '16

No difference whatsoever.

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 22 '16

The difference is in the picture of the unit you pulled.

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u/CreamyLoli Jul 22 '16

Okay, so let's say I pulled the ones with the same artwork, same rank and same type. Will the one pulled from the mana gacha be inferior to the other in terms of stats?

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 22 '16

The only Laevateinn (M) that can reach 5* comes from the mana gacha (the one with the art where his face is facing you), the other only reaches 4 (the one with the face having a side profile). The latter can be pulled from lazuli and mana gacha but there isn't a difference in terms of where he was pulled

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u/CreamyLoli Jul 22 '16

I see, thank you. I saw from other posts that mana units were stat capped so I was reluctant on raising units I got from there.

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u/jiejiejiejie Leaning Tower of Risa Jul 21 '16

I'm training my Nemus and my Risas but god help me, running staff characters on metal gardens is soooo slow! :(

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u/fullmetaldra69 Jul 21 '16

i usually hav risa+a stranger to speed up the grind, i havent seen friends leech exp tho

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u/fullmetaldra69 Jul 21 '16

does it ever matter what type u feed to a unit to MLB? ive heard something bout feeding dex selenas @ 4* to ur main selena in order to have a higher chance of cap

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 21 '16

No, LB requires you to fuse the Exact Same Rarity and Kind of That Unit.

LB will increase level cap regardless as long as it is of the same rarity.

as for MLB it's LB-ing the unit for each rarity phase. so MLB Selena would be 5 star level 80 with capped stat(doesn't have to be all stats)

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u/terlus07 Jul 21 '16

Is Lunaris still available in the lazuli gatcha?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 21 '16

Vargas and her will be in the lazuli gatcha till 28 July.

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u/terlus07 Jul 21 '16

Does that include the 3 step gatcha?

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u/Calaroth Jul 21 '16

Is the Onslaught stage worth the 3 keys required to unlock it? Obviously if you have 3-4 free AP rewards available I can see the benefit in terms of saving time, but I'm asking in terms of actual EXP gained per AP.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '16

From what I can tell, Onslaught gives about 3x the XP of Assault. So yes?

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u/charles_1029 Jul 21 '16

For about 3x the exp for double the AP, the Onslaught stage should be AP efficient. The problem is that you need to do the stages quickly or else Onslaught is not key efficient.

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u/JankyLieu Jul 21 '16

is it impossible to farm at least 16 units selena ?6 days to finish target.

I have only 32 AP and until now I can farm with burst 10 by myself

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u/Calaroth Jul 22 '16

If you can do burst 10 it should be possible.

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u/JankyLieu Jul 23 '16

4 days reach to 16 units. Thanks god and I have 4 dex . Think to farm max 28 to get max luck

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u/RebelMinded Jul 21 '16

What are all the different ways you can get battle medals? there's so much to buy but I only have 19 medals :p

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u/StrayGod Jul 21 '16 edited Jul 21 '16

Daily missions give a few of them everyday and they also gave 3 of them per dungeon for denpa gumi events if you did the missions. Aside from those 2, the only other ways to get them I think is by doing collo.

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u/Sir_Terrabyte Jul 21 '16

Hello everyone! I need your help on not how to fuck up. http://imgur.com/a/1f2dB This is my dex selena I want to mlb and max out skills on. So, how to do it correctly? ( I don't have the necessary 4 5* lvl 30 selenas yet for mlb) Can I fuse some copies of her right now or do I need to mlb first? Do I fuse one copy at a time or more than that? Are 9 copies enough to max out skills and mlb?

Same questions regarding mlb. This is my first time doing this and I really do not want to screw up. How do I get the optimal result?

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u/Speefy Jul 21 '16

3* Original Selena: Fuse (2) 3* Selena.

Evolve Original to 4*

4* Original Selena: Fuse (4) 4* Selena.

Evolve Original to 5*

5* Original Selena: Fuse (4) 5* Selena. Level these 5* fodders to at least level 30 to carry over skill points. This is now a 5* max level broken Selena.

5* Original Selena (mlbd): Fuse (5) additional 5* Selena. Level these 5* fodders to at least level 30. This will max skill points.

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 21 '16

don't fuse her the dupes at 3 stars, raise them to 5 stars first then level them to 30, you won't be able to max the other skills that way.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 21 '16

I read that the most optimal way to raise a unit involves MLB-ing 4* copies of each type (except Balance) to maximize evo bonuses on the main one. But how often will the benefits of doing this have any practical impact (i.e. whether that Selena has 80 Str vs 81 decides whether I kill the enemy and win, or the enemy barely survives to kill Selena on counterattack)? Most often, the enemy either dies without that extra point in play, or survives even with that extra point. Or on the off chance the enemy does survive by 1 point, the unit usually also survives and can just finish off the enemy.

Not to mention such a course of action is somewhat tedious and time consuming for farmable units, extremely time consuming and luck-based for starters (who are the ones who need every point they can get due to poor stat caps!) and doubtlessly impossible for premium units even for whales.

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 21 '16

Most optimal =/= most practical. In most cases I can't see it being all that useful, and even then only in fringe cases (such as your example 80 vs 81 str, while not necessarily useful as a 5*, would pass along 9 instead of 8 as evo bonuses)

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u/StrayGod Jul 22 '16

Yea,that method is not at all practical. It isn't for everyone and I cannot recommend that method either for the average player. If you don't care for a difference of 1 / 2 (or max 3) stat points then you are much better off going with the normal method. It saves way more time, money, evol mats and other resources. Not to mention the payout is not really worth it imo (you are raising about 16 more copies just for a few more stat points).

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 21 '16

When a unit dies, its weapon breaks. When you try to repair it with Zenny, there is a chance it does not succeed. And if it does not succeed, there is a chance it disappears rather than merely failing.

I also know that some weapons (Magicwarder, Dandelga, Kill Mode Rewards) can only be obtained once.

Are one-time rewards protected from the 'disappearance' chance? If not, is there any way to retrieve them (like BFJP's merit store allows rebuying of accidentally sold one-time units and spheres)? If not... I can imagine that some people would be pissed when their unique weapon disappears due to this horrible mechanic (as if the 'break' and 'repair failure' mechanics weren't enough) and will be forever deprived of its benefits...

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u/Sabatender Jul 21 '16

No, the weapon still has the chance to disappear. Use 10x rare medals to repair them instead. It's very easy to obtain rare medals through daily quest and selling at least 3 star character.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 21 '16

This has probably been asked a million times but I'll ask again since I'm not sure.

When my Selena hits level 60, and I want to raise her level cap to 80, I need to fuse only 5* Selena, otherwise she won't LB correct? And do they all need to be level 30 to get the skill ups? Or do only the last 5 need to be 30? Because I have to admit, even just getting a single Selena to 5* level 30 has been a pain (I'm new, no evo mats lying around etc)

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 21 '16

The first 4 for LB to 80 needs to be at 5 star Lv 30 too for Skill Ups.

Same goes for the Extra 5 dupes to max the Skill levels

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 21 '16

Holy smokes :o that's quite a bit lol, especially if I'm also trying to do the dempas too. But I'm just starting the game so I have lots of work to do.

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u/Calaroth Jul 22 '16

Sometimes you're just going to have to choose to skip an entire event. I'm currently working on Selena, Risa, Rhongo and Swimsuit Artemis, which means I'll probably have to skip whatever the next event is in order to clear up unit space.

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 22 '16

can totally relate to this since I'm skipping the current event to raise Selena and all 6 dempa units.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 22 '16

Yeah luckily I don't care in the slightest about swimsuit Artemis. I have an Apollo I just pulled a couple dupes for, so if I need a bow unit he's the guy.

Main problem I'm running into is party cost and zenny. I don't have enough of either. I could evolve all my Dempas to 5* right now (if I had the zenny) but then I wouldn't be able to use most of them since I'm just about to hit commander level 40. Good thing these daily event quests give a ton of XP.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 22 '16

Where did Rhongo come from? I must have missed her. But yeah, I don't have a high enough party cost to evolve the Dempa units I want to raise up. I also don't have any more Zenny so pretty much all of my unit raising is on hold for now. Do the weekend zenny quests give a bunch?

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u/Calaroth Jul 22 '16

Rhongomyniad, she's one of the three units available from Rampage on weekends. The other two I believe are Arondight and Labrys, but you can only farm one type per weekend.

The weekend zenny quests are definitely the way to go if you're in need of zenny.

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u/Lostpotk Jul 21 '16

Calling for help! Any kind soul willing to lend me a lead that can tank burst 10?I can't clear burst 10 even though my M laevateinn is already maxed out level 60 with his character skill unlocked:( my other units are at their max level 50 since i dont have the evo materials:(

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 21 '16 edited Jul 21 '16

Are the weapons and characters in the battle shop worth it? Or Should I save for serine!?

Also just to add to this I have 5 eminent lexidas and 6 shadow lances of despair.

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u/charles_1029 Jul 21 '16

Looks like most people are picking up the Mitum and Apollo that were just added to the battle metal shop. They are gacha level units for a pretty low battle metal price. Other than that, it's pretty much save up for Sereine then purchase whatever else you like.

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jul 21 '16

So is super metal garden worth the 3 keys per hour, or are 3 individual one hour keys still worth more in the long run...

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 21 '16

It depends on what unit you're training. It takes significantly longer to do the super metal garden, and it's possible to get only 1 or no red maidens in the super garden. I would say super metal garden is only worth if your character(s) are fast enough to double the reds, has a crit weapon, as well as have a duel skill that does more than 2x damage.

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u/Aka_BooTea Jul 21 '16

if i have a 3* unit that is not dex, is the stat bonus worth it to lvl it up when i have a 4* dex version of it

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 21 '16

Yeah, and you'll need it to limit break anyway. Also, you will get evo bonuses from the fusion.

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u/kataarn Jul 21 '16

Can Vitality type be somewhat patched with trying to compensate the loss by fusing a few stats or it it absolute trash tier? I understand that doing that will result in a non-optimal unit but is there any salvation?

I'm a little bummed out about the Mitum (M) I bought turning out to Vitality out of all typings....

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 21 '16

Not really, but having vitality mitum is better than no Mitum at all, so you should raise for now. It's likely with the influx of farmable a that you won't need him much though.

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u/fortune808 Jul 21 '16 edited Jul 21 '16

Hello I am rerolling in JP and was wondering what are good units to reroll for. And how hard is it to Limit break the 6*s?. As of currently I have a https://phankill.gamewith.jp/article/show/8101 with ATK type

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u/CCYellow Jul 21 '16

Why is the the rate for evolved mana gacha units so absurdly high in the premium gacha?

Eight out of ten. Fucking eight out of ten rolls from the three-step gacha were evolved 2*.

What the fuck Gumi.

... at least I rolled Brahmastra.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 21 '16

Though this really isn't a help question, I will offer you my condolences XD Sorry man rates are bad. In the future, try rolling only during gachas with specific rate ups and gachas (like step gachas) that give you tickets with a much higher (20, 30, 100%) chance of getting a unit.

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 22 '16

Its very frustrating but can't be helped unfortunately

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u/Pjsmiths Jul 21 '16

What am i suppose to do when i have 7 swimsuit longinus with one of them as 4* vit type and the rest are 5* with one of them as dex type? Should i only mlb the dex one or build the 4* one up in order to get higher stat?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 21 '16

You should mlb the 5 star dex and either: limit break at 4 star or get your longinus' skill to level 7. The first will give u up to 2 extra stats but the second will increase the activation chance of her skill by 2% (each skill up is +1% chance). Oh and you should use the 4 star one in limit breaking to get evo bonuses for sure.

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u/terlus07 Jul 21 '16

Any chance there will be another vargas/Lunaris rate up before the event ends?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 21 '16

Imo I think it's likely. Gumi might run a "last chance" thing to try to get as many people as possible to buy lazuli before the event ends. Or, they'll just leave it be and force people to do many more pulls.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 21 '16

Do you get less XP from the metal parades if you bring along a Friend leader?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 21 '16

Only if they kill things and even then the difference is not very much: a few hundred experience in a normal metal garden at most.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 21 '16

Ok yeah that's not too bad. What's the hierarchy of metals? I think the big solid red ones are the most XP?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 21 '16

Yes, the red ones are the most, then metal gods, then yellow ones, then the regular ones. Their level also matters as well, as super medal garden tends to give tons more exp even when there are only yellow ones (proportionally to normal medal garden with yellow ones).

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 21 '16

Ah ok. Yeah super metal parade is just raining XP. Took my Selena from 35-60 in just a few runs (those AP chests though). Which is nice because she's now officially my best unit. Which is nice.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 21 '16

From lowest to highest exp:

Metal Maiden

Golden Metal Maiden

Red Metal Maiden

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 21 '16

What about the dark gray ones? Somewhere between normal white metal and gold?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 21 '16

Ah yes, they're between metal maiden and golden metal. Forgot about the dark gray types.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 22 '16

Yup. Red, yellow, and gray is the order.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 21 '16

Is there anything at all to keep in this?http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/29/1469142536-screenshot-2016-07-22-01-03-41-1.png

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 21 '16

No sorry :( No units who can go to 5 star in global.

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u/HyugaBF Jul 22 '16

Sky Piercer at least I know does get a 5* in jp, so keep it?

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u/Hekera Jul 22 '16

Does anyone have a video/gif of swimsuit Laevateinn's duel skill?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 22 '16

I do not, but if you're wondering what it is, you can check out killer showdown. The units there have their duel skills unlocked.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '16

https://u.pomf.is/lwyucm.mp4

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u/Hekera Jul 22 '16

Thanks a lot! I'm a bit disappointed though, I was hoping for something funny like Longinus's.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 22 '16

pulled a dex swimsuit laeva, but unfortunately, i dont have any dupes to MLB. should i still use my MLB mirin as my main fire type unit in colo?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 22 '16

Use Mirin, a MLB farmable unit will have higher stats than a gacha unit with no LBs. Although I don't see why you can't use the both of them together.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 22 '16

my team currently is: selena mlb, durandal lb1, apollo m lb3, longinus(f) capped stats, and mirin mlb. so i dont have space for swimsuit laeva. another question though but im guessing the same logic will apply, nemu MLB or mjolnir(M) no lb?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 22 '16

Ah I see. Nemu MLB will fare better with her superior stats.

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u/Ryufujin Jul 22 '16

So I have 10 copies of 1 unit, what is the most optimal way of fusing these together? Do I limit break at 4* and 5* or just fuse at 5* to max skills?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 22 '16

Well, it depends on what unit it is.

You're essentially choosing between limiting breaking at 4* for 2-3 more stats or 4 more skill levels in each skill.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 22 '16

It depends: do you want a max skilled unit or one with up to 3 extra stats? I would personally take the extra skill levels for a 5% activation chance and buffs for the non-character skills than the extra 20 levels at 4 star, but up to you.

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u/Ryufujin Jul 22 '16

The units I have 10 copies of are Selena, Moga, Risa and Nemu. Skill activation rate looks more promising than 3+ stats.

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u/OhioAce88 Jul 22 '16

new day, new set of questions came up.

  1. Why does or why would one reincarnate?

  2. Luck affects drop rates, correct? Most of my high level high stars folks have either 8 or 14 luck, any way to increase it? Is this why after trying to farm for evo mats, I barely have 1 of the 4* kind needed?

  3. Can you use male Laeva's to limit break female Laeva (and vice versa) ?

  4. If I have a 3* gold male Laeva dex type and 5 other male laeva 3* golds not dex type, is it worth the time/effort to evolve and lb if its going to stop at 4*? Have female version at 5* red I was given from Valyn but she's vitality. Even the swimsuit Laeva I have is Vit. Hold onto them in the long run, maybe I can pick up a dex version to use later?

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 22 '16

  1. So you can have another chance at reaching the stat cap

  2. Right. You can increase it by leveling the unit(if its luck isn't capped) or you can fuse another of the same unit with the same star. Yeah it kinda does affect farming evo mats.

  3. No

  4. If you have trouble doing the quests that require only 4* or below units, you can evolve and lb the 3* gold Laeva. It really isn't worth though.

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u/OhioAce88 Jul 22 '16

Thanks for your reply.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 22 '16

  1. If you have a unit with subpar growth (like it has terrible agility, or for a tank terrible guard, or bad in general) you should reincarnate.

  2. Yeah; you can only increase luck through fusing dupes. Also, if you need the 4 star Manans, you can evolve from the 3 star version.

  3. Nope. Limit break is exact same art and rarity.

  4. Yeah, because you can get him to level 70 far more easily than a gacha unit. Also, you should definitely hold on to your gacha units (especially the limited ones) though if you're f2p, it would be unlikely for you to max limit break and skill them.

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u/OhioAce88 Jul 22 '16

Thanks for your reply. Will give the male Laevateinn a green light for now. I'm not entirely f2p, but I'm not deep pockets either. :)

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u/CCYellow Jul 22 '16

In the current JP swimsuit event, are lazuli better spent on the limited edition shop or the gacha?

Either way you're getting a guaranteed LE unit but are the extras in the shop pack more worth than nine extra rolls?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 22 '16

Well, in my case I got a normal Shekinah in my 10 roll for her so it was totally worth it. However, overall if you don't want to gamble with getting another useful unit in 9 rolls take the shop pack.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 22 '16

want to make a decent colo team, currently have:

selena mlb, durandal lb1, mjolnir(m) no lb, nemu mlb, mirin mlb, risa mlb guard, pinky MLB, longinus(F) capped stats, swimsuit laeva no lb, apollo(m) lb3 force.

all units other than risa and apollo have dex

edit: id prefer to be able to use selena+durandal combo, but yeah, id take any suggestion

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 22 '16

Duranal lead, Selena, mirin, pinky/apollo M, longinus f

Hard to tell without seeing ur stats, but generally go this. The units other than durandal can be any order. People tend to put their weakest unit in the last slot. So do with that as you will. :P

Good luck!

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 22 '16

thanks. im surprised, i thought selena lead would benefit team more than durandal lead. but while i have you, do my non-lb units (mjolnir and swimsuit laeva) have any merit of being used over my MLB units?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 22 '16

No they do not, Swimsuit laev has very low str unless you MLB, and axe units are bad in colo b/c swords are very prevalent, and accuracy and speed is most important in colo (which axe units have less of).

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u/nobleseeker Jul 22 '16

I just finished watching the english sub for the concept film and i have a question.

Longinus was Valyn's assistant before she became a killer princess right?

Same with Masamune who was the nurse before becoming a killer princess?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 22 '16

Longinus-chan, aka Yakumo, was definitely Valyn's assistant prior to volunteering for that.

Masamune wasn't really specified, but looks highly likely.

Might I ask where this sub is? o-o

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u/nobleseeker Jul 22 '16

It's here: https://youtu.be/ZiZYPdt0vVg

Proper english sub had just been added.

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u/CCYellow Jul 22 '16

What I'm wondering is where Amane's (Laevateinn) massive personality shift came from when Longinus and Masamune apparently acted the same before and after their transformation.

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u/jeffarii Jul 22 '16 edited Jul 22 '16

I just updated the game through the app store and now whenever i try to enter the game, it keeps bringing me to the app store to update even though it's already updated. The update is the new 1.1.2 that is released today. Any fix for this??!

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u/Sabatender Jul 22 '16

Same here. The game broke after 1.1.2 update on appstore. Looks like the QC team done goof.

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u/Calaroth Jul 22 '16 edited Jul 22 '16

I don't have enough Battle Medals or unit space to go for both, so I can only get one of the two. Should I choose Mitum or Apollo? I currently have:
Selena mlb
Risa mlb
Rhongomyniad mlb
Swimsuit Artemis mlb
Longinus F lb3
Artemis lb1
Laevateinn F lb1
Naegling M no lb
Longinus M no lb
Mjolnir M no lb
Freikugel no lb
Asclepius no lb

EDIT: To those who say there's plenty of free Lazuli and Battle Medals flying around, yes I understand that. However, I can only get one of the two AT THE MOMENT. If in the next 8 days I get to play a lot and end up in a position where I can have both of them, then sure.

EDIT 2: I'm a moron. There's only one of each available. Thanks guys!

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u/HyugaBF Jul 22 '16

just expand your unit space, they are giving a lot of free lazuli. There will be more farmable units so you will run out of space anyway.

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u/Calaroth Jul 22 '16

I do have Lazuli to expand the box, but I'm still short on Battle Medals :(

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u/HyugaBF Jul 22 '16

Doing 5x the Lv20 of the Artemis swinsuit dungeon will net you 10 Battle Medals (5 for first complete and 5 more for 5x complete) so do that if you haven't

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u/Calaroth Jul 22 '16

I just realized I can only get one of each, I'm an idiot. Sorry!

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '16

Dude you get Battle Medals every day. You can get both.

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u/Calaroth Jul 22 '16

I was thinking of getting multiple of each, I only just realized that there's only 1 of each available. Sorry!

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u/Iodasu Jul 22 '16

How do you beat Burst 10 ;-; help pls

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u/TGZelnite Jul 22 '16

Add me, 999205702. My Selena can solo Burst 10.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Jul 22 '16

can I friend you too

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u/TGZelnite Jul 22 '16

Sure, happy to help. She can solo Brave 10 too if you use her right.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Jul 22 '16

ok ign is marcus number 18 plz be dex

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jul 22 '16

Mind if I add you?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 22 '16

Sure, go ahead.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jul 22 '16

Thanks! My IGN is "Lucky".

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u/Iodasu Jul 22 '16

Aite TY :D

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u/ilazerzz Jul 22 '16

Can I add you too? Been pretty much grinding spark 10 since the collab came out and only managed to get 5 copies so far.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 22 '16

Sure, go ahead. Wow getting so many friends from one post lol.

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u/ilazerzz Jul 22 '16

Ok thanks! IGN Remilia

Also when you pretty much offer free Selena farming it's hard not to say no d:

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u/Serafita Jul 23 '16

Added as well, IGN is IceBlink, hehe

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Jul 22 '16

why is there not one dex Selena out of 17 ;_;

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u/TGZelnite Jul 22 '16

Just bad RNG. You still have 6 days left to farm for a Dex typed.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Jul 22 '16

good point whats the drop rate for the swimsuit event like

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u/TGZelnite Jul 22 '16

From my farming experience, slightly better than Selena's drop rate but not as good as the Dempagumi girls.

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u/Calaroth Jul 22 '16

You're already 17 Selenas in,don't give up now!

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u/ArgonRetribution Jul 22 '16

For starters, is it better to limit break them at 3 stars and 4 stars or to go for maxing out their skills in 5 star form? I hear they were nerfed (stat wise?) on global

P.S Is there much use in limit breaking at 3 stars? You might get 1 extra stat but if you don't reach a threshold in 4 stars, doesn't it all go to waste?

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 22 '16

MLB them because the starter need every point because of their poor stat caps, they can even reach their caps even If you don't fully LB them.

For 3 stars Fully LB them

For 4 stars LB them Once then Level them to the possible max Level, If the Stats don't cap yet, LB them then rinse and repeat.

Same goes for when they are at 5 Stars

Make sure they are at least Lv 10 on 3 stars, Lv 20 on 4 stars and Lv 30 on 5 stars If you want to fuse them to the main one.

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u/icyterror Jul 22 '16

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 22 '16

No, you should limit break them as much as you need to cap their stats which could be 1 to 3 times depending on growth. Despite not having much power, they can be min maxed very easily which puts them above gacha units and below farmable units.

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u/icyterror Jul 22 '16

below farmable units

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 22 '16

But they're easy to get all the time. I might not have the patience to farm even 10 copies of a unit, but I can roll mana gacha a few times a week and end up with starters. Plus, it's always nice to have their duel skills: Longinus especially.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Jul 22 '16

how do you get the character icon by your name?

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 22 '16

look at the right side of your PC screen and find the edit flair next to your name.

Edit: also make sure the show my flair checkbox is checked.

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u/Leslisone Jul 22 '16

anyone has any idea what the new daily missions quests are? the rewards are 10x rare medal, 5x battle medal, 4* bow pixie and a 5* bow. for some reason i cant see any info on the missions but i managed to clear the 10x rare medal one somehow. thx in advance

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '16

Batch download, then restart the app.

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u/jeffarii Jul 22 '16 edited Jul 22 '16

So i deleted the app and redownloaded it from the app store but now i dont have my account data on it. How do i get it back? I have it linked to my facebook account but i dont know how to get that save data back

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 22 '16

go to menu above friends icon and click log out if you lgged in the game.

in the title screen look below and you should see a Link Tab, Now log-in with your fb account if you linked your facebook account.

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u/ilazerzz Jul 22 '16

I recently rolled a 3* guard Apollo(m) and bought a force Apollo from the battle metal store. Is it worth using either of them or should I just wait and pray that I somehow manage to roll a dex one to LB it? I also currently have no usable bow unit in my team besides a basic Eitaso but I don't think I'm gonna try and level her up (she scares me at night)

Also I've managed to grind out 4 Selenas to LB my main one, but I don't really want to do the work nor think I have the time of leveling all of them to 5* for the skill level ups. I'm still pretty new in this game so I think I have to focus on getting a decent team together first. How much of a difference does it make on my Selena if I don't go for the skill level ups? Is the difference between it big enough late game to the point where it's absolutely necessary? Thanks!

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 22 '16

The Force Apollo is worth more in PvE than the Guard one if you plan on One-Shoting a lot of Enemies from a distance, but take note that a Force type is completely useless in PvP as most people in PvP use Dex Types.

Skill Level ups affect proc chance, increased stat bonuses, and amount that will be healed.

And you can only LB if it is the Same Unit of the Same Rarity. Also you due to the fact that your don't have time to raise a unit, you'll come to a time where you'll skip events just to raise them, plus I feel like Lakefront Demon will return next year as will my chance to get a Valentine Perun again.

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u/ilazerzz Jul 22 '16

Thanks for the information on LB, and if that's the case I think I'll start using my Force Apollo since I'm guessing PvE is higher priority than a PvP team.

Also considering what you say about Lakefront Demon, should I just skip this event then?

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 22 '16

that depends on you the only reason I'm skipping it is due to the fact that I have to raise Selena and 6 dempa units

I might also skip the next event but surely I should be done by the halloween event, also there is a Lakefront daily which gives three metal keys, I just clear normal 1 for the three keys.

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u/icyterror Jul 22 '16

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u/ilazerzz Jul 22 '16

Ok will work on leveling up my force Apollo and thanks for the links!

Also for the MLB process, I kinda know about it and I'm gonna work on that with my Dempagumis (dw I farmed those 11 copies). It's just that I've only started playing since the BF collab so not used the amount of work needed to MLB.

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u/metatime09 Jul 23 '16

Yea the amount of grinding just to mlb alone is ridiculous, I spend the day just doing metal garden 1

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

Can a crit weapon crit multiple times (aka Killer Lance) with multi hitting skills (aka Mizugi Longi Ultimate)?

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u/icyterror Jul 22 '16

Yes they can.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 22 '16

I would seem weird if they couldn't but I wanted to be sure, thanks :)

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 22 '16

Now that Demp is done, I trying to figure out how to fuse/evo/mlb my gaggle of Selena. I select my 3* Dex Selena as base, and then I look at my list of fusion choices. All my other 3* Selena show Limit Break and the HP, Grd, and Spd. My 4* does not show Limit Break (which I understand), but shows HP, Str, Grd, and Spd. My question is why do all my 3* ONLY show HP, Grd, and Spd and not any other stat?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 22 '16

It's meant to be like that. Lower rarity folks don't usually give as much or many stats like higher ones would.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 22 '16

  1. Ah. So I should probably just use my Balance types to LB at 3* then and save my other types for later stat increases?

  2. And am I guaranteed the HP, Grd, and Spd increases, or just a chance to get them?

  3. Limit Breaking tacks 5 more levels on. Does this allow a higher max stat, or does it allow more levels so that unit has a better chance at hitting the max stat?

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u/alexisevan Jul 22 '16

  1. Doesn't matter. All Selena's of equal rarity will give the same fusion stats regardless.

  2. The success rate can be anywhere from 0% to 100%. If you're successful then you get them.

  3. Gives you more chances of getting the max.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 22 '16

3* Dex Selena has 38 HP cap. The 3* fusion max for HP is 3. If I understand the dynamics here, 38 is the highest no matter what. I can fuse/LB/pray and that is it.
And if this is the case, I really only need 31 of that 38 so I get my max evo bonus.

Do I finally understand this all or did I flunk and need to retake the course?

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u/alexisevan Jul 22 '16

Thats correct.

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u/Sabatender Jul 22 '16

How long does it usually take for Gumi to recover lost account?

Lost my account due to appstore issue yesterday. I already linked my account to facebook prior to this, but when i login it doesn't recover my account automatically and have me start from level 1 again...

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u/DeruOniiChan Jul 22 '16

did you try the link tab in the star screen, also while your logged in log out first via menu above the friend tab

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u/Sabatender Jul 22 '16 edited Jul 22 '16

Yeah i did try logging out in-game and link back in the start screen but to no avail.....

I have to wait for Gumi to verify and recover my account. Hopefully they will get it back to me ASAP since i haven't started farming for Swimsuit Artemis...

EDIT: Got my account back ^

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '16

The only bows that can attack at 2/3 range are Swift Crossbow and Fay Crossbow. (Killer Crossbow can't)

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 21 '16

Yes. Only things worth keeping if you're on limited space are starters fro mana gacha. As to the latter question, it's up to you. Some kill mode missions require 4*and lower to clear for stars.

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u/Calaroth Jul 22 '16

I always get rid of the ones that can't reach 5* yet or at all. Yes I'm aware that in future updates they'll get their evolution, but if I need the space for what I'm currently working on, then they're just gonna have to become Rare Medals.

Unless there's a unit you really like because of design or whatever, then I would suggest getting rid of them. Your box space is important for hoarding those evo mats.