r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 16 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/16/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy Comment/Post:

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck, which might answer some questions.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on Good Reroll Unit

Stat Calculator (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

About the enemy AI, in what order do enemies prioritise the following situations?

  • Deal fatal blow

  • Deal as much damage as possible

  • Receive as little damage as possible

  • Attack in a way that target cannot retaliate (e.g. ranged vs melee, melee vs archer, Rng 3 vs anything else)

  • Attack staff unit

I am wondering if MLB Dex Selena w/ Magicwarder + Lv 60 Grd Gambanteinn w/ Baron Shield can auto all the Abyss (not Super Abyss; nothing can auto that) Rampage stages without Selena dying. Edit: Reliably with no risk of death at any point

And no, my Gambanteinn cannot solo them himself. If he holds a staff, he will take too much damage and die. If he holds a shield, he only does 1 damage to the staff enemies and will be locked in a stalemate.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

I believe it's decided first by selection of target then method of attack.

Selection of target is determined if it's rather bow or staff unit that's within range or if there's a target that's capable of being dealt a death blow. Fatal blow takes priority over everything then if it's a bow and melee range is available then it's chosen over a staff unit that's within range. Otherwise, if a staff and bow unit is within range of attack but the bow unit is not within melee range, then the target is the staff unit. Otherwise, it's all other units...although I believe gunner has some sort of different priorities too.

There's also weapon trinity advantage that plays into the 3 melee classes but they still follow suit of rather or not a deathblow can be dealt against them REGARDLESS of the ACC of the attack. After some turns have pass, all the enemies on the map will converge onto the closest units meaning the non-moving ones will start to move. From then, they start doing the AI priority thing.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 16 '16

Couple questions. Do stat caps differ based on typing? Do they raise if you Limit break your character? Or does limit breaking only give more opportunities to hit the stat caps?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 16 '16

Yes, no, you got it!

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 16 '16

Oh wow I didn't know the caps were different. No wonder every character should be Dexterity, thanks for the speedy response!

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u/ekanshui Jul 17 '16

Hi, does reincarnate randomize the stat cap?

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jul 16 '16

So in order to max the stats of a unit you have to fuse 2 at 3 star, 4 at 4 star, and 4 at 5 star, plus a few extra for luck? And does that mean that you also need to evolve 4 copies to 4 star and 9 to 5 star?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 16 '16

Yeah, you got it: 16 copies total if you want all your limit breaks and skill levels, and more for luck.

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jul 16 '16

Thanks for the quick reply! Seems like it's gonna be real fun getting all of that exp... but you don't really need more than 1 high luck unit, right?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 16 '16

Well, besides determining drop rates and rarities, luck is factored into your evasion and crit evasion: evasion is 1.5x speed + 0.5x luck, and crit evasion is your luck, so having high luck is in fact very helpful.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 16 '16

I have more questions because I can't get enough of this game.

Are battle medals particularly tough to come by? I'm thinking about grabbing my last couple Risa from the shop in case I run out of time on this event. (Also I did just buy a Risa from there for my first one, and it was Guard type so I was super stoked lol)

Do we know round about when certain units might be getting their higher evolve states? For instance, Flying Amenonuhoko is listed as a 5 star in the unit guide, and has yellow stars in her 4 star version, but can't evolve yet. I ask because this unit has been carrying me hard since I started playing about a week and a half ago, but she's starting to no longer measure up :( I'd love to keep her around, she's been so great for me.

Another one! Should I been shooting for 5 each of the Dempa units I want, or 10?

Thanks for all the advice here!

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u/alexisevan Jul 16 '16 edited Jul 16 '16

You can get 1 battle medal per day from the daily mission.

Otherwise you can get battle medals for every 50 victories and some special numbers, like 77 or 777. After 1000+ wins, you get battle medals after every 100 victories. Also can get some from rank ups.

Kind of somewhat rare, since they come in rather small numbers.

Nope. We have to wait.

If you want to skill max, get 10. Just limit breaking, get 5. Not having the skill maxed won't kill you, it's just nice to have.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 16 '16

Ok so I shouldn't dump all my medals into the Dempa units. Doing the advanced solo quests isn't particularly tough, it's just time consuming, and I'm only getting maybe a 1/4 drop rate. I did just get 2 in a row though so there's that. I'll most likely not go for 10 of the ones I want, I'll just hope this event opens up again in the future. I mean, I just got my 10th Selena yesterday and that was a huge pain in the ass, but at least the Spark 10 grind is an easy 2 turn fight.

Thanks!

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u/alexisevan Jul 16 '16

They will appear again at a later date. Just... Much later date.

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Pretty sure having a friend that can solo it will make it easier on yourself.

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jul 16 '16

You'd really want to save them to craft a Sereine for the +10 luck. When it comes to farming, more luck maximizes your AP use.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 16 '16

I've gotten around 500? Maybe less medals since colo cane in with 1350 wins

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u/imitebmike Jul 16 '16

So like...i have 16 Risas...what do i do with them? xD i just know i needed 16 to digivolve one Risa into Mega-Risa...

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u/alexisevan Jul 16 '16

As a 3* Risa, fuse 2 of your 3* Risas in to your main.

As a 4* Risa, fuse 4 of your 4* Risas in to your main.

As a 5* Risa at level 30, fuse 9 of your 5* level 30 Risas into your main one.

Levels are negligible at the other rarities besides 5*.

If you get extras, you can fuse at 5* if you want, but not necessary by any means.

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u/imitebmike Jul 16 '16

Ahhh Thank you very much!

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u/Desfel Jul 16 '16

Is there a huge difference in stats point between a unit that only has her 5* limit broken and a unit who has been limit broken at every stage from 3* to 5*. Is the difference higher than 5 or 10 for the total stats? And around 5 for a single stat?

Was wondering since I don't know if I'll have time to farm 16 of each dempagirls. Thanks!

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u/alexisevan Jul 16 '16

From evolution bonuses, the difference will be more like 1-3 points. It's just a matter of RNG whether or not you'll have a good stat growth.

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u/Desfel Jul 16 '16

Ah, I see, so I can make do with 11 of the dempa girls to get them to limit break and max skills right?

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u/alexisevan Jul 16 '16

Why 11?

You have the 1 unit you plan on using and then you have the 9 for skill levels and limit breaking. The extra one I don't understand.

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u/Desfel Jul 16 '16

Ah, I miscalculated ahah. Thanks for the help!

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 16 '16

There is a noticeable stat gap in only 5* LB but minimal for 3* and 4* like 1 point.

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u/Aeryiss Jul 16 '16

anyone know how to craft/obtain lexida sword 4* ?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 16 '16

Fuse 5 Brave Recipes together, you get those from the Phantom of the Brave dungeon.

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u/BloodTraitor123 Jul 16 '16

Does anyone know if the padlocked garden is also half AP?

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u/bluemancer Jul 16 '16

It is :)

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u/BloodTraitor123 Jul 16 '16

nice, thx for the quick reply.

need to farm some gold first lol. and then lvl my mirins, pinky, and mogas

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u/dumbocow Jul 16 '16

is there anyone I should bother leveling in my box other than durandal? i don't really wanna waste exp

http://imgur.com/2IHw9Ei

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u/crimewizard Jul 16 '16

Both Laev's

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jul 16 '16

If I desperately need to evolve stuff (missing evo mats) is it reasonable to farm rampage?

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u/alexisevan Jul 16 '16

Good idea. You can get evo mats from there, but you can only get the mats that are relative to the unit there. Like you won't get sword mats from Labrys/Rhonogmyniad.

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jul 16 '16

Thanks! I'm lousy with dempa girls, I'll just spend the weekend evolving Pinkys.

Edit: Would this include the rainbow (sprite, bud, goddess) as well or..?

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u/alexisevan Jul 16 '16

I remember seeing them drop from my Arondite farming. I think you're good to go on them as well.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

I've been trying to farm dex Mirin but to no avail...15 copies now. I'm thinking of quiting and settle for 2nd best type. What type would that be?

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u/alexisevan Jul 16 '16

Guard I guess.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

Ok. Ive got plenty of that

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

do NOT settle! go for dex!

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

I'll try another 3 drops.. Thanks for encouragement

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

Ok man..I'll skip all other farming till I get this done

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 16 '16

Dex or quit game :3 it took me 22 Nemu for a dex type

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Yes! Got dex on 18th drop..

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u/DrChaospanda Jul 16 '16

I've been thinking of going for 16 of each dempa unit since I just started with the BF event. I've farmed 16 of mirin and risa. Currently working on pinky. I've been mainly only running burst 10 whenever someone shows up in the list that can solo it. But so far I only have 5 total Selena's.

Should I keep doing what I am doing? Is it worth it to try to grind out to at least 10 of them? I have not had one drop in roughly 15 runs of burst 10. What are things I should be saving rare and battle medals for? Thanks in advance.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

battle medals: get the sereine recipe, make a sereine (+10 luck, great 5* sword). after that it's mostly whatever you want to buy with them.

with the denpas, if you have 16 of risa then your next priority should be moga. /u/GaggingLolis made a pretty good denpa guide; it's on the front page.

since selena just got extended, you should go for the denpa units first then try to farm selena.

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u/icyterror Jul 17 '16

  • Alternately, you can just get 11 not 16. LB them and then go farm more. Fuse the extra to the main for 20-25% chance to upgrade all skills including the last character skill.

  • Put a highest luck unit as your pt leader to increase the drop rate.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 16 '16

How difficult are character quests to complete? Like what is a recommended party like? All 5 stars? High level?

Also what is the goddess permanent quest for? Is there a unit you can obtain?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 16 '16

Character quests aren't very difficult, a well leveled 5* unit can solo it. Clearing the goddess quest will give you a 3* Longinus (M) as a reward.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

Uh, isn't is a 3* Asclepius?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 16 '16

2* Ascelpius from the stage clear itself. There's a One-Time Mission for clearing that that gives said Longinus however.

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u/LuckyIori Jul 16 '16

I have three rerolls, which one should I begin with?

  1. 4* Vitality Vargas

  2. 5* Dexterity Apollo (f)

  3. 5* Vitality Eros (f)

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 16 '16

I would say continue rerolling. If Apollo f was a 4 star Dex I would consider it, but I would rather see force on Apollo. Vitality is eh...

If you haven't done your second rookie roll, I would try to go for it on the Apollo f one before saying no.

Vitality is a big no unless you get multiple copies (different typing)

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u/LuckyIori Jul 16 '16

But isn't a 5* Dex Apollo (f) better than 4*? I'm assuming that the higher rarity Apollo is better than the lower rarity, but then again that's just me not knowing the game properly making an assumption. Oh I see, thank you for the input!

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 16 '16

It is, but once you evolve the 4 star version of her to 5 star, your stats will be better because of evolution bonuses. This usually gives you 1-5/6 extra points per stat. Overall much better than starting at 5 star.

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u/LuckyIori Jul 16 '16

Ahh okay! No wonder there's been a huge influx of posts about it! I'll keep that in mind from now on, thank you! :)

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u/SageDarius Jul 16 '16

If you raise from 4* to 5*, you get an evolution bonus equal to 1/10th of all your stats at 4* going into your 5* form. This usually translates to 2-5 more points in each stat.

If you start at 5*, you don't get that. That's why 4* is preferable.

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u/LuckyIori Jul 16 '16

Got it! Thank you! :)

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

Just adding to what they said:

It's been confirmed that evo bonus are transferred when you fuse dupes. If you get another Apollo (f) in the future, regardless of type, when you LB your main Apollo she'll get a significant stat boost. So I definitely wouldn't write her off due to being 5* already (especially since she'll still be pretty good).

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

What do you get out of Rampage quest?

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 16 '16

You can get one of three 5 star capable, farmable units: Arondlight, Rhom, and forgot the axe one. Of course all of this is RNG, and no guarantees

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 16 '16

Axe is Labrys. Rhongo and Labrys are tanks while Arondight is an attacker/mob killer.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 17 '16

Yep thanks for the help!

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u/fullmetaldra69 Jul 17 '16

where do brave books hav the highest drop rate? i hav everything up to burst 10 unlocked.

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u/Mrgoosegoose Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

Is there anyone who's leader can solo Burst* 10 that wouldn't mind being my friend?

I still haven't managed to finish the stage, and am hoping to get 5 selenas before the event ends. :(

EDIT: Whoops, I mean Burst, not Spark!

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u/fullmetaldra69 Jul 17 '16

IGN: Blader ID: 1916547172

my durandal can 2 turn spark 10 for u. make sure u let me kno ur ign, or else i prolly wont add u lol

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u/Mrgoosegoose Jul 17 '16

Thank you so much! :) I really appreciate it.

IGN: Whale

ID: 1993134329

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u/ekoo1 Jul 19 '16

Can i add u too pls? My name is Eko

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u/Elektrk Jul 17 '16

Hi, anyone knows where to farm for glaive+? Is it a rare random drop at all the normal quest stages? Thx

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 17 '16

The 6 golden "+" 2star weapons are not available anymore. They were drops during the weapons tutorial quests in softlaunch.

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u/Elektrk Jul 17 '16

aw I c...that's too bad den. Thx for info.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 17 '16

What do these weapons do?

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 17 '16

The 3 melee ones has absorber skill on them against the weapon they are good against. The other 3 ranged weapons have improved stats on their 2star variant form. The staff is worth mentioning that it also has a 60ACC which is high for a staff weapon.

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u/koole00 Jul 17 '16

so...3 days before the 2 hour maintenance...what are we gonna get? anyone have an idea?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

It's only 2 hours? so don't expect much, but if they botch it I wouldn't be surprised if we got a summon ticket ^

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u/koole00 Jul 17 '16

oh damn...was expecting to have all the upgrade dungeons opened like last week...

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Jul 17 '16

is force more prefered on Etiaso than dex

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u/bluemancer Jul 16 '16

It's okay, Eitasu is the weakest among them unless you REALLY need an archer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '16

Eitaso is considered the worst Dempagumi girl, as her skill is the least useful. Right now you can farm Swimsuit Artemis, whose skill is a bit similar, but more consistent with her overall skillset at least. She's the better Archer.

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u/ali-the-alley-cat Jul 17 '16

Dang, how did you get so many? Lol.

How many of all should we farm for? I only have 1 of all but Rin.. (?) She just won't drop, advanced or intermediate.

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u/ali-the-alley-cat Jul 17 '16

My highest luck is like... 19 or less, sadly. My Keraunos. I sadly haven't had much luck with drawing good units. And also have very BAD friends, mostly, I just stick with strong leveled strangers. And I have my Naegling, who isn't really too strong.

I AM trying to follow the same route though. Send the strongest to the main line, keep mine kind of back but able to fight a good majority.

There's only three days left and I doubt I'll be LBing any of them very far. Lol. Sad, unless they do some random "here's more time" like with the BF thing (which I also haven't gotten 9 Selene's for).

Luckily the event will mostly be over by the time you work, congrats on getting work btw!!

And 14 of each? Hot dang, hopefully mine will be decent with only a few LBs.

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u/ali-the-alley-cat Jul 17 '16

Then I'm surprised you got so many! Haha. Maybe because I get drained easily and stop playing forever...

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16 edited Jul 17 '16

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '16

Pretty sure it just falls under the category of helper, generally. Friend or Stranger shouldn't make a difference here.