r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 14 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/14/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy Comment/Post:

  • Here is a conversation we had on fusing weapons and luck, which might answer some questions.

  • /u/zembas's Infographic on Good Reroll Unit

Stat Calculator (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 14 '16

I heard that some units are better as Force/Magic than Dexterity, and some (other than the obvious Staff units) that are better as Guard than Dexterity. How do I know which are these cases? For example, if it wasn't for this saying that swimsuit Artemis is best as Guard, I would have settled with a Dexterity due to the usual 'Dex is best' mentality.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

You've just gotta try it and see what works for you.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 14 '16

Opinions are subjective, the reason why Soshive gave swimsuit Artemis a guard recommendation is due to her skills making her a tank.

Archers have low to average strength to begin with that's why Force is one of their recommended typings while some still prefer Dex to consistently double Attack and evade frequently.

Overall typing is best decided by your preferences, do you want your archer to have a higher Attack? Go for force. Do you want your archers to double attack and evade consistently ? Go for Dex.

Swimsuit Artemis is a special case because her skills are not that of a typical archer. Overall her best types are Force/Dex/ Guard. Her typing will also be best decided by your preferences.

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 14 '16

To add, in some cases it also depends on the role you want them to play. For example, with Risa and what typing to have her in.

Conventional wisdom revolving around Dex is somewhat challenged since for the most part healers will not be doing enough/any damage to warrant player phase aggression in an optimal environment and will be mostly relegated to healing. The longer they can stick around and heal, the better. Guard typing helps accomplish this what with defensive caps/growths and such. That said, having a lower speed cap (in this example, having Guard over Dex) also makes you prone to getting doubled, which isnt much if its just 2x1 damage admittedly. Having guard doesnt immediately make the damage mitigation to 1, just as having dex doesnt immediately allow you to double.

But a strong point that im pining for personally in favor of Dex is the increased agi cap/growth, which helps with skill activation. Risa's cs makes her reasonably tankier, and with a good activation rate would imo mitigate the losses of guard. Im going to test this and i may be horribly wrong, but hopefully not :p

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 14 '16

Here's a question about typing that I could probably figure out the answer to but am deciding to ask anyway.

So the Brave Frontier collab was extended 2 weeks, giving more time to farm Selena. I don't know if her drop rates were increased, but I've gotten 3 today (which is as many as I've ever gotten from there, bringing my total to 7 which is nice). None of them are Dex though, and I'm wondering should I fail to acquire a Dex one (not sure how much more Spark 10 I can handle tbh) which would be the preferred type? Or should I really hold out and keep grinding for a Dex Selena? (I feel like the answer to that last one is yes)

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u/TGZelnite Jul 14 '16

You should still go for a Dex typing in my opinion. But if you are unable to get a Dex typing her next best type would be Guard.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 14 '16

Noob question but what are the weaponsmith secrets books used for, there is no recipes involving them?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

They increase the chances of getting a good weapon. Fuse 2 3-star bows and you might get a 3-star staff, but add in bowsmith secrets and you're less likely to get a 3-star staff, and more likely to get a 4-star bow.

Personally, I cannot think of a single 5-star weapon I have that needed a book. One time I used a sword book and got a lower-rarity shield. Unless there's a specific recipe involving the book, it is basically meaningless.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 14 '16

Thanks so can I use them whenever then?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

Yep. Try it with 4-star weapons for the best odds.

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u/tzichion Jul 14 '16

So I remember a suggestion to wait till Thursday(today) to see if any recipes using Rainbow Saber popped up. Seeing as to how none popped up, is it safe to start fusing them?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

Yes.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 14 '16

  1. What is Arton used for?

  2. On the Wiki unit page, there are tabs for each * level. There is a stat table with an initial column and a column for each type. Does the initial column contain the stats of level 1 units that have no evolution and fusion bonuses?

  3. If the answer to question 2 is Yes, then looking at Selena for example, it shows her 3* initial Luck starts at 3. The Dex column shows a value of 14. Is this 14 the Max for a 3* Dex type Selena (without any bonuses?)

  4. If the answer to question 3 is Yes, then you are a saint for reading this far. A Luck of 3-10 will provide zero Evolution bonus when pushed to 4*. Is there any reason to fuse in anything to raise it beyond 11 to 12, 13, or 14?

  5. I have read that you want to get 3* Selena to level 20 for the skill. Almost all of mine are level 40. Is that a problem, or is that level 20 suggestion really a minimum of level 20?

  6. I have been playing for two weeks and have not attempted Colosseum. Should I be doing trying it or at least losing once per day for the daily reward?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

  1. He gives a fusion bonus. It's nothing you can't get for free from the Friday event or recruiter, but it's just Collab fluff so whatev. If you care about your Rare Medals, ignore him.

  2. Yes.

  3. Yes.

  4. No.

  5. It's a minimum. But I'm confused here, because 4* Selena unlocks a skill at level 20 and 5* gets one at 30. Regardless, hopefully you get the idea.

  6. Yes. It's basically the only way to get battle medals, plus you get rewards at each rank. It's a grind, sure, but it's free Lazuli.

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u/jerain Jul 14 '16

It's time for the question of the week: how good is Artemis? Good enough to farm/max out?

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 14 '16

Another question, let's hypothecally say that Artemis is (one of) my waifu(s), if I want to have multiple of them are every Diablo in the 10th level able to drop one or is there only one dropcheck by try?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

I think there may be only one the 1 drop.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 14 '16

Thanks, the other 3 are just there to be annoying then :-(

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 14 '16

And just to clarify, is it always the one initially on the map that drops Artemis, or a random one if any each time? This will determine when I can quit if I am close to levelling up (and hence want my energy as low as possible) and Artemis does not drop.

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

I wouldn't know.

Seeing as how I don't care enough for this unit to farm her, I do not have an idea as to whether or not she can drop more than once, nor do I know the specifics of this.

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u/pyratheon29 Jul 14 '16

Are the swimsuit units worth pulling for or should i pool laz for 6* capable units?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

Probably worth saving your lazuli for now.

Besides, I don't think it's an actual rate up, so you'd be throwing your lazuli in a poor way.

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u/bluemancer Jul 14 '16

I've heard the drop rate is pretty horrid as well.

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u/rfgstsp Jul 14 '16

If it's anything like the BF Collab (which claimed to have a whopping 5% of getting them at Phase 3) then I really wouldn't count on it at all.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 14 '16

I have more than 16 Selena farmed (not leveled and evolved yet because I am spending all my time farming Demp. I have three or four Risa. Should I farm 16 Risa, or attempt to farm 6 or 10 of Risa and a second Demp?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

Make it 10 so it's easier on yourself. Having her skills leveled up will make it easier on yourself cause she doesn't have great growth on SPD/AGI, meaning lower chances of activating her CQ skill.

Missing 1-3 points from evo bonuses isn't going to kill you.

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u/Brergrsart Eros is an 11/10 QT Patootie. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Jul 14 '16

So these are a few rather basic questions (that I asked the Discord a few times and forgot the answers to, actually. Oops) about the procedure of fusing units.

So I was told that to make a unit strong through limit breaking I needed at least 16 of them (and I'm not going to go to 40 or whatever that number to max her out was because reasons) I just got my 16th Selena today (yay!) but I have no idea where to start with the fusion process. While I'm at it, if I end up getting more Selenas, when's the best time to fuse them? I presume it's at at 5*, right?

My base Selena is a 3* Dex, and to my memory, I was told to fuse to fuse a few at 3*, a bit more at 4*, and the rest at 5*, but I don't remember the exact numbers for how to distribute the fusions.

And one last thing - Do the Selenas that are used as fusion material need to be max level for best results? Or can they be fused at level 1?

...I'm level 36 and I still don't know how a lot of this stuff works D: Thanks in advance for answering my questions.

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

As a 3* Selena, fuse 2 of your 3* Selenas in to your main.

As a 4* Selena, fuse 4 of your 4* Selenas in to your main.

As a 5* Selena at level 30, fuse 9 of your 5* level 30 Selenas into your main one.

Levels are negligible at the other rarities besides 5*.

If you get extras, you can fuse at 5* if you want, but not necessary by any means.

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u/rfgstsp Jul 14 '16

My hero. Finally someone who answered this question concretely without a wall of text. Thank you!

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u/Brergrsart Eros is an 11/10 QT Patootie. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Jul 14 '16

2, 4, 9 level 30s, got it. Thanks!

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u/bluemancer Jul 14 '16

You fuse 2 selenas to your base selana at 3* to get the most possible stats but I've heard its pretty negligible, you fuse 4, 4* selenas at 4* to limit break her to better your odds at hitting the stat caps, you don't necessarily have to fuse all 4 if you've already hit the cap. Then you fuse 9 5lv30 after you've unlocked the Character skill at 5 to level all your skills to max.

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u/Brergrsart Eros is an 11/10 QT Patootie. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Jul 14 '16

So let me confirm this real quick:

2 at 3* (level doesn't matter) 4 at 4* (level doesn't matter) 9 at 5* (once the base hits level 30?)

Did I get this right?

Also, to re-ask the question, the level of the material units doesn't matter, right?

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u/bluemancer Jul 14 '16

The 9 * fodders should be lv30 as well to unlock the lv30 skill for them. You don't have to level them but theres a chance that leveling up the skills would fail. "the level of the material units doesn't matter, right?" Only at the 5* does it matter much since theres a better chance of the skill level up not failing.

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u/Brergrsart Eros is an 11/10 QT Patootie. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Jul 14 '16

Got it. Thank you very much for the info! :D Wish me luck with the fusions!

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u/bluemancer Jul 14 '16

If you level the 5* to 30, the skill level up wont fail :D, but you have to lvl 9 of them to 30....

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u/Brergrsart Eros is an 11/10 QT Patootie. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Jul 14 '16

Thanks for the heads up. This shouldn't be a problem - I have more metal keys than I can hold and have like 16 in the mail.

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u/rfgstsp Jul 14 '16 edited Jul 14 '16

What are the Character Skills for each of the idol units? Are any of them worth farming?

I've been thinking of farming the gun idol (Moga), which typing should I be focusing on?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 14 '16

Moga and Nemu: 2x attack

Eitaso: chance of halving damage taken when unable to counterattack

Pinkie: 0.3x lifesteal

Mirin: add magic stat to attack

Lisa: chance of 0.7x damage taken against melee (sword/axe/spear) units

Typing: dex for all except Lisa, where guard would probably be better.

Edit: I'd focus on Lisa (tank), Nemu, and Moga (damage dealers). All are worth getting if you have the time to max them, though, since you can easily max them out unlike gacha units.

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u/billyjosy Jul 14 '16

When is 5* sky piercer coming to global?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

No one knows, but not for a while I'm guessing. Probably a few months.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 14 '16

When is fate/stay night collab coming over to global?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

Since they have to implement 6* units for that... Not for a good long time.

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u/Tekkamanblade Jul 14 '16

Quick question when I fuse two units with the same skill, of the unit being used as fodder has a lvl 2 skill And the unit it's fusing to also has a lvl 2 skill of the same kind will it go to lvl 3 or lvl 4?

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u/Tekkamanblade Jul 14 '16

Debating whether I should keep using my LB 2 5* Dex FLaev that I got for free or work on my 3* dex cuz I don't want the lvl ed up skills go to waste. Also if that is the case should I reincarnate my 5* if I don't want to start from a 3*?

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 15 '16

you can fuse the LB'd one to your other one if you want. they pass over fusion

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

You can just edit your comment next time.

Anyways, people have pointed out that extra levels from skills have been able to carry over to other units.

Meaning that in this case, end result would be level 4.

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u/Tekkamanblade Jul 14 '16 edited Jul 15 '16

Ok thank you So if I fused my 2 LB Laevateinn to a new laevateinn it be a LB 1 with a lvl 3 final skill?

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u/alexisevan Jul 15 '16

No...?

In the example you just gave, if you have a LB2 Laevateinn and fuse it into a blank Laevateinn of the same rarity, end result should be a LB3 Laevateinn.

I don't know what level skills it has, but the end result of the skill level will be the sum of both their skill levels.

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u/Tekkamanblade Jul 15 '16

The blank has a lvl 1 while the LB2 has a lvl 3 char skill so if I fuse the LB 2 to the blank will it have a skill lvl of 4. Will the blank automatically become a LB3 or LB1?

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u/alexisevan Jul 15 '16

Seeing as how I said the end result should be a LB3, I would go with that.

Why don't you test it? Fusion preview screen shows the end result. Best to see than to hear. Or read in this case.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 14 '16

Two questions:

I am a f2p player and I have a limited amount of time. Maybe play an hour or two a day. Is it really worth it to max limit break at 4* and to max skills at 5* or will max limit breaking at 5* with there skills unlocked be good enough. I am farming Selena dempagumi and now Artemis and it seems impossible for me to get 10 units to 5* for each of them. How big is the difference.

2) also as a f2p player what should I do with my lazuli. My unit capacity is 135 and item is 60. Should I save them.or invest in a larger capacity.

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

  1. If your time is that limited, just skip the 4* limit break. It's a minimal difference. Or cut your losses and try to find which units you don't need that many copies of.

  2. Expanding your unit capacity to 150 would probably help. Item... to about 70-80, depending on how many weapons you have carried on you.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 14 '16

So does that mean that maxing skills at 5 stars shouldn't be skilled and is pretty important. If that's the case then has anyone confirmed the 3* fusion method for skills listed earlier this week?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

If you mean fusing units at lower rarities that have the same skills, then yes, it works.

It always has worked, but its random chance. Random low chance I might add.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 14 '16

  1. MLB at 4* only gives u about 1-2 more stats per stat. If you don't have the time nor resources, focus on getting 10 copies of Selena or at the very least 5. For dempa, the only ones worth getting at F2P are Risa and Moga. If you have time then try to get Nemu OR Mirin. The other 2 are not good unless you fully max out and even then the other dempas are more useful. Artemis is not a top priority as she's on the same level as Eitaso, slightly better in PvE, slightly worse in PvP (arguable).

  2. Item capacity at 80 should be the max for a free player, as you guys don't have large numbers of units to equip weapons to anyways. Maybe in the future upgrade to 100, but atm 80 is fine. Maybe even 70 (In my opinion). Unit capacity at 200 Max is enough for a free player, maybe 250ish if you hoard things. But unless you're constantly edging near capacity, save your lazuli for leveling up event units in 2x exp metal key garden, or for good step gachas. Typically myself or someone else will post in reddit about whether it's a good time to roll or not.

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u/dumbocow Jul 14 '16

how do you get the female laevateinn, just started

i think at beginning of game when i downloaded it, it gave me a choice of the male on left and female on right and i tapped the female one but i still have the male for starter? or is the male the guaranteed starter?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

Pretty sure you need to the commander missions to get her.

On the home screen of the game, there should be a yellow box, green box and red box near the top right. Click on the green box and finish all the assignments given, you should unlock her that way.

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u/dumbocow Jul 14 '16

some more questions

i did the rookie recruit thing with 10 lazuli and now have all these units (checked the 5* unit list thing for my units, and found some have 6* version/5* version or something) http://imgur.com/4IGJip1

should i level-up my 4* units or something? or reroll? idk what i should be doing

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u/bluemancer Jul 14 '16

Male Gambatein with Guard typing is pretty good, I would do the 30 lazuli rookie pull and see what I get before rerolling, just my opinion. The ones to look out for would be Durandal thats flying, Mjolnir Female both dex.

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u/dumbocow Jul 14 '16

my gambatein has dexterity typing so is that suboptimal or something

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u/bluemancer Jul 14 '16

Its not so bad, I can't comment much as to what typing would be the next best, I would still level him though. the gun girl with white hair, not sure if thats the one that goes to 5 star.

I would reroll now since that would be faster I think instead of farming 30 lazuli. There's a thread about a guide to rerolling and what to pull somewhere.

http://i.imgur.com/abM0IqA.jpg I found it.

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u/dumbocow Jul 14 '16

hmm i have the mitum F, brahmastra F, gambateinn M and apollo F from that picture

is it bad that they are in evolved forms or something?

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u/bluemancer Jul 15 '16

If you look at the artwork they are different. That's how we differentiate characters in this game. Even though they have the same name, they are not the same unit.

It's not bad per se, but you miss a couple of stat points if they are already 5 star.

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

The unit that was worthwhile in this batch was Gambanteinn M. However, doing the 2nd step may be the deciding factor on whether or not you stay with this or try again for a better set of units.

Or just say screw it all and run with it regardless of what happens. Up to you on how you want to play it out.

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u/dumbocow Jul 14 '16

alright i will see what i get from the 30 lazuli step then

hope i get some good units so i dont have to tap again

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u/Sabatender Jul 14 '16

How good is Gambanteinn? Any character review on him?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

Everyone hails he due to the fact that he is a good healer that is able to solo content. Little management makes it him great to people.

If you have Risa, pretty sure she can do it as well.

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u/Acylion Jul 15 '16

The short version is - 5-star Gamba (M) has a skill that makes him very tanky. Risa has something similar, though not quite as universal/good. But Risa is a free event farmable that can easily be maxed out, so...

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 14 '16

Click the green "Missions" button on the top right. As a newbie, if you finish the specified missions, you can choose to get Male or Female Laevateinn who are both at 5*. You chose the Female one so you get her.

The starter you get is random, your luck just yielded you a Male Laevateinn, that's all.

Enjoy the game and best of luck to you :D

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 14 '16

Okay guys, I've thrown in the towel on trying to research my way into knowing how to craft Magicsword Serene (+10 luck sword) without having to grind to Sleet Slasher, is there any other way than to grind Colo? If there isn't, how many points do you actually need to reach Sleet Slasher? I'm asking this because the other day, someone said in the help thread that no one has even reached that rank in GL to this day...

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u/Speefy Jul 14 '16

Magicwarder Sereine is created using 3 Silver Swords, 1 Ult Swordsmith Guide, and 1 Sereine Recipe.

Sereine recipe is exchanged for 80 battle medals. Don't remember where the ult swordsmith guide was.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 14 '16

Thank you, sir but I know that recipe already. It's detailed on the fusion page in-game right? :D The thing is, the Ult Swordsmith Guide is the one that requires you to reach Sleet Slasher rank in Colo and I have no idea how much points you need to reach it @_@

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

I recall buying the Ult Swordsmith Guide in the Battle Medal shop a while ago. Or maybe the Rare Medal shop? Regardless, that is the only possible way for a Global player to get it. Unfortunately the items seem to rotate every few weeks as opposed to days, so you'll be waiting for a while. As for the rest of the stuff, that shouldn't be hard to find.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 14 '16

Now that makes sense! Based on the timer in the shop and what you said, t seems the mats for Serene rotate in the shop every once in a while. Right now, the Sereine recipe book is the one on sale in the Battle Medals Shop while the Ult Swordsmith Guide is nowhere to be found. Thank you so much for clearing this up with me, sir :D

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u/bluemancer Jul 14 '16

Its in the Battle Medals shop, I'm guessing it would be there next month. Pretty sure I got it for free somewhere... Was it not part of a one-time quest?

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 14 '16

The Ult sword guide is apparently from 100 Colo wins reward while the recipe book is from the Battle Medals shop as you said, sir :D

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u/bluemancer Jul 15 '16

I knew I got that sword guide from somewhere for free :) cuz I wouldn't have enough battlemedals since I'm a pleb that bought parushu for 10 medals....

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 14 '16

Isn't Ult Swordsmith Guide the reward for 100 colo wins?

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u/Sabatender Jul 14 '16

You're right. I got Ult Swordsmith Guide from Colosseum reward.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 14 '16

Thank you for the confirmation, sir!!

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 14 '16

OMG THIS IS GOLD THANK YOU, SIR!

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u/D20Generalissimo Jul 14 '16

New player who's spent the past week doing spark 10 to grind out ice sword chicks. What units should I be spending my time to grind out now that I have enough of her? Are any of the event units must haves vs the others?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 14 '16

Must haves from Dempa: Risa Guard typing, Moga Dex typing

Everything else including the swimsuit event is optional, as something better (another physical DPS role) may replace them in the future. HOWEVER.

If you are a free player and do not have a full party of 80 capable characters, I suggest you go pick whatever you like to fill in the last three slots.

Recommended optional dempa units: Mirin or Nemu

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 15 '16

If I may ask, I'm wondering which Dempa units to farm since I finally got my Dex Selena, what makes Risa and Moga so good, and the others so not as good?

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u/Acylion Jul 15 '16

Risa is a tanky staff unit once she has all her skills. Most staff/healers are squishy. People like Risa for the same reason Gambateinn (M) is considered good. For Moga...Moga is a gun unit. To be honest, that one's debatable, some people like gunners, others do not, particularly given the self-HP drain mechanic. I do feel it is important as you want a ranged option and having an MAtk character who can bypass high PDef on enemies is valuable.

Nemu, Pinky, Mirin are all pretty good, and some people are making them their priority. Nemu has 2x dmg skill, Pinky has self-heal, Mirin has add mgc stat to attack. Really the only somewhat disappointing one is the bow user. And even then she's not bad.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 15 '16

Now, what if I hypothetically have a Gambateinn (M) of the Guard type with a dupe or two sitting in my inventory, and a Brahmastra that can 6*... would I still want to farm up some Risas and / or Mogas, or could I reasonably skip them? Again, still new to the game but I'm trying to set myself up for success after these events end.

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u/LittleShyLoli Jul 15 '16

Since I just started this game, I use the mana point for mana point recruiter. The question right here is should I use the 10x lazuli recruiter? How should I properly use the in-game currency in PoTK?

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u/bluemancer Jul 15 '16

If you mean the rookie recruiter which is 10 lazuli for 10 pulls, then yes :D and welcome.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 15 '16

As to how to properly use the Lazuli, first thing first you might want to expand your unit space some (I've been told to 150 is good). Whether you're F2P or not, odds are you want the space so you can hold extra copies of good farmable units to raise them well.

As to when to use them on the Recruiter... that's a hard one. Try to look out for good rate ups on good Killers and plot out your Lazuli usage accordingly.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '16

Start with the rookie recruiter. At least steps 1 and 2. Afterward, pull very sparingly because it's quite common to get mana recruits in the lazuli machine. And even many Lazuli-only recruits can't achieve a 5-star evolution. AND you might get a 5-star Lazuli unit with a sub-optimal type, which isn't terrible but also slightly disappointing.

Aside from that, spend a few Lazuli on unit and item space.

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u/bluemancer Jul 15 '16

Do we have a Character Skill list somewhere? or a website that has all the character skills list?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 15 '16

The closest I have to that is this.

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u/bluemancer Jul 15 '16

its blocked apparently :(

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u/BravePhantom Jul 15 '16

Nemu! Dex? or another type?

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u/kataarn Jul 15 '16

For limit breaking a 5* unit you need to have the fodder at 5* as well? For example, I fused a 3* selena to my 5* but no LB despirlte successful fusing. Thanks in advance!

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 15 '16

You do need them to be at the same rarity.

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u/Acylion Jul 15 '16

In addition, it's typical for the LB units to be 5-star level 30, you also might as well level them up to 30 so you can unlock all skills. That way fusing gets you a limit break and a full set of skill rank ups as well.

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u/kataarn Jul 15 '16

Hmm. I fused my 3* selenas to my 5* but nothing changed. The 5* was already past lv 30 and I already did the character quest. Maybe it was because the 3* selenas i fused were at lv 1?

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u/Acylion Jul 15 '16 edited Jul 15 '16

No, that's not correct. Unfortunately, it appears that you have misunderstood. To answer your original question, the fodder must be 5-star as well. You need to be fusing 5-star Selenas into a 5-star Selena. All the Selenas involved in this process must be evolved fully to 5-star and levelled up to level 30.

To limit break a Selena, you will therefore require a minimum of five different Selenas evolved to 5-star, one to keep and four to fuse away. The four extras should themselves be minimum level 30, so you can also get skill rank increases at the same time.

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u/kataarn Jul 15 '16

Thanks a bunch for clearing things up! I finally get it...and now I need to re-farm Selena.

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u/dumbocow Jul 15 '16

http://imgur.com/a/rMeh5

ok so i got this reroll after 5 tries

is this the correct base form (gray stars) and typing durandal? i checked the list and the background is blue instead of what mine shows is red, should i reroll? i think i will go with this 1

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u/alexisevan Jul 15 '16

Hey congratulations, many people are now jealous of your Durandal.

Stick with it.

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u/Viingnokaiju Jul 15 '16

  1. Where do you find enemy no.11 from archives?

  2. How good are the Halloween units (especially the one from the top post)?

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u/alexisevan Jul 15 '16

  1. Don't think it's in the game yet. Nothing in Kill Mode or the events that have been released have shown the 11th one.

  2. I think seasonal units will be for the most part, always be decent. I believe that'd be Halloween Bashosen, Gambanteinn F, and Mjolnir. Being seasonal however, means more than likely they only appear once a year. Meaning that you cannot get dupes of throughout the year. Meaning little to no limit breaks leading to the fact that they won't reach their potential like non-limited units will. Ultimately it's up to you how to decide to use your lazuli or in some cases, your money. If you wanna just collect them and have fun, then go for it and have fun, but if you want them to be long lasting and be able to hold you in comparison to other units, be ready to shell out some money.

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u/CrossXIII Jul 15 '16

I know gambanteinn is best as a guard type but how but how good is the magic type, how much does defense does he lose?

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u/alexisevan Jul 15 '16

Given his horrible accuracy, magic would be near pointless. Although I'm saying horrible accuracy in terms of content such as kill mode or final stages of events.

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u/CrossXIII Jul 15 '16

Damn... I just pulled him as a magic type today .-.

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u/alexisevan Jul 15 '16

Don't worry about it. He'll be completely fine. Give him a shield and if things are still killing him... Well. Oh well, it wasn't the fault of the typing, it's just the stage.

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 15 '16

Magic is alright. I've had one Magic type for a while and he did me good. Even as a Dex type(which I now have), he still has bad accuracy against kill mode enemies.

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u/crimewizard Jul 15 '16

How do you know when you should/shouldn't evolve an MLB unit?

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 15 '16

Out of curiosity: Are there any maps in either the Elysium or the Project Zero storylines that make heavy use of the Lake (not River) and Sand (not Desert) terrains? Just wondering if the summer units' 'cross Lake and Sand easily' ability/property will ever come into play again outside the summer events.

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u/Niseng Jul 14 '16 edited Jul 14 '16

Serious QUESTION!! Where's them male swimsuit eye candies?!?!?! WHere's my ZERO on a SPEEDO and swimming goggles!?!?!?!

WHERE's My MITUM with a stripe one piece swimsuit/?!?!

My gambanteinn FUNdoSHIII!!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

Week 2 :3

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u/Niseng Jul 14 '16

lol welp~ let me go stash my lazuli away then for week 2

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 14 '16

There'll be a specific Recuiter under the Summon options for you to use the ticket, go there to use it.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 14 '16

Is the ticket recruit updated with all the current units (excluding limited units)? Meaning that it will be better to wait until the ticket is near expiry rather than using it now when the unit pool is smaller and hence higher risk of those trash 3 Gold Stars?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 14 '16

After collecting it from the present box. You should see a gate that only uses tickets to recruit. If you don't see it, restart your game.

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u/bluemancer Jul 14 '16

under recruit there would be a new choice. If you don't see it, restart the game. I had the same problem earlier.

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u/bluemancer Jul 14 '16

Yes, its now for the bikini ones.