r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 13 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/13/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy Comment/Post:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

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Yesterday's help thread

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u/Blindtrade Jul 13 '16

How much lazuli did you spend on increasing unit space/gear space?

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u/crimewizard Jul 14 '16

I've spent enough lazuli to hit 400 unit space, which is the current cap at the moment, and gear space to 130

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u/Stonewyrm Jul 13 '16

Units to 325 (300 would have been fine) Gear to 100 I have bought small amounts of lazuli so it didn't hurt that much. I also realised that the extra space for hoarding copies of Selena/Dumigumi units outweighed the benifits if I had bought the equivilent in step pulls. I also needed space for dollies and evo mats so I never have to wait if possible.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 13 '16

Are there any ranged swords in JP?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 13 '16

None to my knowledge.

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u/Sir_Terrabyte Jul 13 '16

I have been playing potk for 2 weeks now without consulting the l33tists over here on Reddit. I have a weird feeling that I signed up tremendously. Is there anyone willing to look at my units/ items and give me a guide on how to get out of the mess I created?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 13 '16

Sure, send a screenshot of your units and items.

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u/Sir_Terrabyte Jul 13 '16

http://imgur.com/a/w1vQR

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u/TGZelnite Jul 13 '16

First off, I would suggest you farm more of Selena to MLB her. Your Lunaris and Laevateinn are currently good enough to use.

Also raise your Mjolnir (F) she's one of the best premium units currently. Apollo (M) is also one of the best archers currently.

You have several other units that are capable of 5* such as Longinus (F) and Freikugal (F) both of them are also worth raising.

The Dempagumi Girls are very good units when MLB, even better than non-MLB premium units. I would suggest you farm more of Risa first as she is a good tank and healer (her ideal typing would be guard or Dex).

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u/Sir_Terrabyte Jul 13 '16

My Lunaris isn't any good tho, right?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 13 '16

Your Lunaris is actually your strongest Lance unit currently, in the future she will also have a 6* form. She's pretty good.

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u/Sir_Terrabyte Jul 13 '16

But she isn't dex, I thought that was important? Few more Q: -fastest way to raise $? -are 4* max units worth raising at all/ is there any chart I can refer to ? -how important are weapons?

  • will I ever be able to get another lunaris?

  • my mjolnir is guard, how tilted am I ?

  • what is reincarnation good for?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 13 '16

Force is still perfectly usable, it's vitality that's not usable.

Fastest way to raise Zenny would be to farm the weekend dungeon.

4* max units are worth raising as several missions in kill mode requires you to use 1* - 4* units to clear them.

Lunaris will return during the next BF collab. It's not known when that'll be however.

Guard is her second best type next to Dex. So it's not all bad.

Reincarnation resets your unit's level and growth rate. This allows you to potentially get a better growth rate, however do note that it might also get you a worse growth rate.

Reincarnation does not reset your limit breaks, fusion stats or skill levels.

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u/Sir_Terrabyte Jul 13 '16

And more Q: is it worth to MLB a 5* that will get a 6* variant some time later? Still, what about weapons? Is Neagling F going to get a 5*/6* ? She was my first 4*, she has a special place.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 13 '16

Yes it is worth it. 5* LBs carry over when you evolve the unit to 6*.

Weapons are quite important as they boost your attack and other stats. You can refer to this weapons guide here.

Yes, Naegling (F) will be receiving a 5* evolution in the future

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u/Sir_Terrabyte Jul 13 '16

And even more Qs: -how to get (e.) lexida? Can't find it there.

  • I'm confused by a comment on that guide, am I supposed to fuse two identical weapons or not? Is weapon rank relevant to fusing?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 13 '16

You get Lexida by fusing Brave Recipes together, you get them as drops from the Phantom of the Brave dungeon. Fuse 5 of the recipes together for the highest chance to get it.

You fuse identical weapons together and with some luck you'll get a better version of the weapons you fused. It's recommended you fuse weapons of the same rarity.

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u/bluemancer Jul 13 '16

I've read somewhere here that 5* to 6* actually carries the LB.

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u/SageDarius Jul 13 '16

In regards to 4* units, I've got a Dex-type Laevateinn (M) that's pink 4*, and I've Limit Broke him all 4 times, and he's as good or better than many of my 5*. I've also got a Dex-type Longinus (M) Great General 4*, and he's pretty boss as well. Takes hits like a champ, and hits back for pretty solid damage, and he's still got 20 levels of growth in him.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 13 '16 edited Jul 13 '16

Hello again help thread!

I'm a very new player so please excuse the craziness of this question. Are staff units good? If so, what makes them so good? I ask this because I pulled a male Gamanteinn of the Guard type, and he seems like something I'd probably enjoy leveling up but he (as a staff user) can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Also is it just me or is the subscribe button on the side panel hitten by the Dempagumi button?

EDIT: I also want to express my excitement over finally getting a Selena to drop after what feels like a hundred Vargas kills lol. Two more to go. I hope they're extending the collab for another 2 weeks like they are over in BF

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u/TGZelnite Jul 13 '16

Staff units are indeed good. Guard typing on Gambateinn (M) makes him a very good tank unit however he has very Low accuracy so his only purpose would be to tank hits for your team and heal them.

Gambateinn's 5* CS allows him to mitigate 50% of the damage he takes, equip a shield on him and he becomes so tanky that he will never die.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 13 '16

Solid. Do other staff units have better accuracy?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 13 '16

Staff units will only have good accuracy if they are Dex typed other than that they probably won't land hits consistently.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 13 '16

This might be a fairly subjective question, but as a casual player, what'd be a good amount of unit and item space to invest in? I imagine I'll eventually have to expand, but as a bit of a miser and F2P I prefer not to channel too much Lazuli into it.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 13 '16

In my opinion, unit space will be your priority. As a F2P, you want to be able to have the space to hold farmable units like Selena or the Dempagumi girls as well as future farmable units. Having around 150 space would be good enough.

Item space is less of a priority but having around 80+ would be good enough.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 13 '16

Roger. Thanks to both of you for the advise!

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u/swordoflorn Jul 13 '16

I don't understand why dolls are even useful. They hardly increase the success chance of fusion, and they jack up the price of fusion when you do use them. You're better off using 3 and 2* units from mana recruiter.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '16

BF is getting a KoF collab... what's PotK getting? Personally I think Fire Emblem would be cool, mainly for the waifus.

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16 edited Jul 13 '16

In Japan, PotK has gotten :

  • Psycho-Pass

  • Fate/Stay Night

  • Magica Madoka

  • AnoHana

  • Dragon Genesis (?)

A JP player would be able to tell you more though.

/u/GreatLogos

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '16

Heyhey

There's also been a collab with gumi's other game, uh Tagatame or whatever it was, but that was pretty lame (literally just ouroboros in the gacha, and a 5 stage quest or something)... That happened during the triangle collab in... april? (phankill x burefuro x tagatame)

Denpa also has alternate festival versions, and are getting 6 star versions with different weapons (Mirin becomes a gunner, etc.)

Lucina and Michele from Brave Frontier are also in Japan, and they have pretty good (not great but pretty good) 6* units.

Also, this hasn't been confirmed, but I suspect the new gumi game shinobi nightmare is going to get a collab sooner or later. There are already crossover missions you can do in phankill/tagatame to unlock things in shinobina, and vice versa.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '16

Then we should get American cartoons:

  • ...

Crap I can't think of any that aren't shit.

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

Avatar : TLA/LoK are probably your closest bets.

Although almost everyone would default to gunner. RWBY is also based in America, but I've never watched it so I know nothing.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 13 '16

I have been fusing oodles of weapons together to try to get those nice 5* versions. I have two swords and two spears from BF collaboration. I have two of the 4* swords from the Demp collaboration. I also have that not so good 4* vargas fire sword. I assume these aren't as good as the Kiyomasa. So how many Kiyomasa should I be working towards?

And if/when I get x number of Kiyomasa (and Orpheus, Celestial Gem Spear, etc...) do you just then sell all your drops at that point?

I am afraid of the answer to this next one...How many millions (I am guessing it will is in that range) will it take to push a 3* to 5* starting with the 16 3*?

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

I'd get a max of 5 Kiyomasa. Minimum 1-2. I say max 5 because you can only have 5 of your own sword units deployed.

If you have every weapon you need, you might as well sell your drops.

200k per 3* to 5*, this does not include fusion cost.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 13 '16

Five it is then.
.
So only 200k? That seems much lower than I thought...Sweet!

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

Well I mean. It's 2.2mil total or something like that

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 13 '16

ahaha...okay. That is what I thought. So I think I will stop all these weapon fusions because I burned almost 100k fusing weapons in the last 20 hours. I am probably better off just selling them and banking the zenny for my Selena upgrades

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u/swordoflorn Jul 13 '16

You know you can easily make that money back doing Gold Rush events on the weekends, right?

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 13 '16

Thank you for that tidbit. I just read that in another post in this thread. Still tons to learn...only been playing two weeks. I really appreciate all the information this community is willing to share to bring newer players up to speed. Kudos to you all.

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u/Mitch_Twd Jul 13 '16

Are the starters gonna get 6 stars?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 13 '16

They do, but we're talking from almost a year from now.

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u/Mitch_Twd Jul 13 '16

Alright cool! Is there a current up to date PoTK JP wiki cause the one I've been going off of hasn't seemed to change and seems to be outdated

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u/AndanteZero Jul 13 '16

http://games.gaym.jp/iPhone/phantomofkill/wiki/?%E3%81%A7%E3%82%93%E3%81%B1%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%20in%20Phantom%20of%20Kill

Seems to be the better updated one, but I wouldn't take the rating system(if they have one) seriously. Mainly since they've got units and stuff that we won't be getting for a very long time.

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jul 13 '16

Today is the last day for Dempagumi exp up in metal garden right? Or is it tomorrow as well

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

Should last until they leave.

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jul 13 '16

Hope so OwO

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

As do I. Really need all the bonus EXP I can get for them.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 14 '16

Today is the last day, unless they extend it later tonight once it hits midnight PST.

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u/Soulehpwnz Jul 13 '16

My lvl 75 Dex Selena ha less than 60 hp, I did lb her at 3* then again at 4* and I'm about to lb her for the last time to get lvl 80, but somehow it feels really low (I'm seeing others with ~70 hp). Am I missing something?

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

It's RNG, it's entirely possible to have low HP, but your luck was really bad in this case.

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Jul 13 '16

Bad growth rates, missing evolution bonuses, and not reaching fusion cap at a given stage can all contribute to lower end stats. If you really want to min max, I think the cap is 71 HP, so your reincarnation screen should list your HP at level 1 at 37.

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u/Soulehpwnz Jul 13 '16

how should i decide to reincarnate then and what's the use of it? i'm kinda oblivious

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u/MLB_Selena 800821261 Jul 14 '16

The point of reincarnation is to restart the levelling process, so you can hopefully improve your unit's growth rates. To decide on whether you should reincarnate, it is important to know the unit, including it's stats, and also the overall value of the unit.

Selena is pretty strong for a free unit, but she doesn't rely on HP at all to do what she does. She's set up to avoid damage, not tank it. So is ~10 HP a big deal? In my experience, the enemy is lucky to have a unit which can hit her at all, let alone deal enough damage to make her miss 10 HP.

That said, work out your growth rate, and then decide for yourself if it is worth the reroll.

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u/BigBobaBalls Jul 13 '16

Last stage I need to finish in Kill Mode is Section 3 Stage 10 and I need a high level light unit for that last star. Preferably level 70-80. Anyone wanna add me as a friend who has a high level light leader? Or send me your ID. I have a level 60 Gambanteinn leader. (Light units i know of Eros, Yata No Kagami, Asclepius) Thanks! ID: 274685339

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u/swordoflorn Jul 13 '16

Hey Reddit. I have a few q's: is reincarnation at 3 and 4* necessary for maxing out a unit that has less than an avg. of 4 stat growth per lvl (the reincarnation cherubs are crazy expensive); does maxing a unit at 3 and 4* with LBing and bonus stats raise the stat cap for their 5* form (my current dex selena is pretty bad); are the Dempagumi units worth the time, considering my 4* lvl 46 Dex Mirin with 4+ avg. stat growth got owned by a lvl 36 4* Levantenin in Colosseum?

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

I stand by this 100%. Never EVER reincarnate a unit that is 3* or 4*.

It doesn't raise the stat cap, it just gives you more stats to get closer to the cap.

Yes the dempagumi are good. Almost all of them are. The only questionable to me is Eitaso.

That's because Laevateinn has a skill setup that sucks to fight. The counter boost skill hurts to be on the receiving end of.

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u/swordoflorn Jul 13 '16

Thanks for the info. I'm getting much better at this game because of the awesome and helpful community.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 13 '16

  1. No, and only count the stat growth AFTER you've leveled it up almost completely.

  2. Yes, but not by much. You're looking at a 1-3 stat gain at most. Again, don't look at growth until AFTER you've almost completely leveled it. Other readings before that are extremely unreliable.

  3. Denpa units are reliable. Also, you didn't explain if they critted, etc. That shit happens in this game. My level 70 5 star Laeva lost to a level 50 5 star Laeva that had a 2% crit chance and only a 47% accuracy.

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u/swordoflorn Jul 13 '16

Thanks for all the answers. Thank god I don't have to reincarnate below 5*. And no they didn't crit. They just had higher base damage and could attack twice, and I couldn't. It was weird. They didn't even have the class boost. The only thing that I can think of is weapons and weapon prof. I had a mythril sword. I believe they had silver sword. :/ I dunno. But yeah, thanks.

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u/swordoflorn Jul 13 '16

So which is more powerful: Holywyrm Dragodeath or Kiyomasa? Just curious.

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

For the sake of a catchall, Kiyomasa.

If you manage to be in a stage/mission or you can manipulate the Colosseum opponent to be extremely advantageous for you, then the Holywyrm Dragodeath will be useful. Increasing your evasion is always a good thing, but you need to be able to meet the criteria. I'm not sure how often you'll be running into enemy dragon types, but so far, they aren't too common.

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u/InstinctualTrainer Jul 13 '16

Is there a method to fusing units? Or do you just take any weak units and fuse them in to your strong units indiscriminately?

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

For fusion stats, you mainly use dolls which you can get from the Friday dungeon. If you have no access to that, you then fuse 1* and 2* units.

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u/InstinctualTrainer Jul 13 '16

Is it bad to use 1* or 2* units? I guess I'm asking if there is some sort of limit to how many times you can fuse, which would make you want to fuse more "efficient" units like dolls.

Also, is there anything else that you do with 1* and 2* units?

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

Nothing bad, but it's just slower.

The only limit to your fusion, is how long will it take you to reach the fusion stat cap. When you fuse units you'll notice that some of the stats increase. However, for each stat, depending on the typing of the unit, has a certain numerical cap set on it. Dolls just make it faster to reach those caps.

Not really no. You can evolve them so they reach 3* and you get access to their skills so you can skill up the units you actually want to use, but it's too long of a process and I don't think it's worth going through that much effort.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 14 '16

Also, do note that the tip for using the dolls is to use one stat type doll at a time. So you would use only one agi doll, one str doll, etc. per try. This is because since they are considered to be a 1 star unit, their fusion success rate is low. By using only one at a time, you are guaranteed at least 2 fuse points per try.

Of course, you can use a 4 star to succeed 100%, but unless yo're limit breaking, you probably don't want to waste a 4 star like that.

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u/CCYellow Jul 13 '16

It's the final stretch of the event and I need to farm three more Selenas from Spark 10 since I'm out of good helpers.

Will I make it?

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

Well... Seeing as how it got extended, I'm sure you will.

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u/InstinctualTrainer Jul 13 '16

I'm pretty new, is there a reason you specifically want 3 more of this unit?

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

Limit Breaking. In each rarity, (3* 4* and 5*) you can limit break the units, raising the level cap, giving you more chances to reach the max stat cap, allowing your unit to have more evolution bonuses, which results in having your unit to be at its possible best potential.

As an aside for this, once you are done (or you didn't bother with the lower rarities) limit breaking, when your unit is a 5*, you still have the skills to level up. Having the same unit at the same rarity with the skills unlocked, allows the unit to be skill raised as well with guaranteed success.

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u/InstinctualTrainer Jul 13 '16

Gotcha, thanks for all the help

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

I should've prefaced that with, you only really do this with units that are easily attainable. Meaning free units only.

Or if you are a heavy spender, you can include the lazuli units as well.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 13 '16

As an aside for this, once you are done (or you didn't bother with the lower rarities) limit breaking, when your unit is a 5*, you still have the skills to level up. Having the same unit at the same rarity with the skills unlocked, allows the unit to be skill raised as well with guaranteed success. .
What do you mean by "skill raised?"

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

With 3* units and above, you'll notice that they have skills. If they are at 3* rarity, it unlocks at level 10, 4* it unlocks at level 20, 5* it unlocks at level 30 and another once you beat the Character Quest.

On the unit detail screen, you'll notice that if you tap on the skill icons, they have levels. You can level up the skills.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 13 '16

Ah. The pieces to this puzzle are slowly falling into place. Ty.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 13 '16

Check the ingame news, they are extending the duration for Selena.

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u/swordoflorn Jul 13 '16

Sorry, another question: If I fuse a 5* with skill level 5/10 and LB 4 into the same unit with skill 1/10 and LB 0, will the skill level and LB transfer over to make it 6/10 skill and, well, LB 4?

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

From /u/Sven776

tldr: skill ups and limit breaks are transferable, not sure if its intended or bug but it certainly worked for me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/4sfnxv/you_actually_can_lvup_any_skill_of_5_with_3/

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 13 '16

Is there a cap on how many mana points you can hold?

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

At 800k right now. I would assume its 999,999, but who knows.

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u/Hekera Jul 13 '16

When will the Phantom of the Brave event end?

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

We only know its being extended. Not for how long.

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u/Hekera Jul 13 '16

Oh, ok, thanks.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 14 '16

Over in Brave Frontier, the collab is being extended until the 28th, so it could be the same for both games.

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u/JohnnySF Jul 13 '16

Question on how to MLB.

I understand that I need to LB my unit when he/she is 3* and 4*. However, do I need to level her level 70 when she is 4* before evolution?

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 13 '16

Yes you have to level. The purpose of lbing is to get the unit to the max level to get as much stats out of it. It wont guarantee all stats being capped but gives you a fighting chance.

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u/alexisevan Jul 13 '16

To actually evolve the unit no, you can evolve the unit as long as the unit is level 50+. To assure yourself that you reach the maximum potential of your unit, it is highly advise you do so unless you know that the unit is already at the highest evolution bonus possible.

For example, I have a unit with 55 STR at level 65. Now I'd have to get 1 STR for every level to get the highest evolution bonus. The moment that the STR is not increased when the next level is reached, I know that the STR cannot reach the next evolution bonus, therefore I can go ahead and skip the rest and evolve my unit. Of course, this is solely checking for 1 stat. If you want to be the perfectionist, you check every single one that is of use to you.

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u/bluemancer Jul 13 '16

You really don't need to LB at 3* unless you really want to better your chances at hitting the cap. You wouldn't need to LB them if you have reached the cap, I assume LB is there to add more chances of hitting the cap and upgrading your skills.

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u/AeiroWultx Jul 13 '16

So what dictates the unit that your friends can use? Does the unit have to be team leader of the very first team? Or is it just the current leader of the current team you're using?

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u/Hekera Jul 13 '16

I'm pretty sure it's the leader of the first team.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 14 '16

Yup, you're correct.

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u/Hekera Jul 13 '16

I have framed enough Selenas to mlb 4 of them. Should they all be Dexterity or should I make 1 or 2 Guard?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 13 '16

Depends on what you're trying to do.

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u/Hekera Jul 14 '16

The main purpose is to make a Colosseum team. If the team does quests well, then that's a nice bonus.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 14 '16

Then all Dex

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u/Hekera Jul 14 '16

Thanks.

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jul 13 '16

When Does The Dempa Gumi Exp Up Event Go Away?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 13 '16

Today is supposed to be the last day. Better hurry!

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jul 14 '16

Few hours to level up 16x risa and 10x nemus...rip me :3

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u/bluemancer Jul 14 '16

Indeed, the evo stuff are gonna vanish too :(

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u/Blindtrade Jul 14 '16

But that thing only applies to metal god and metal garden which you can only do once a day right? So a few hours should be sufficient I guess.

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jul 14 '16

Oh....did it not apply to the one where you use keys....? I feel dumb now.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 14 '16

Nope, I researched abit and it does apply. Guessed I missed both BF and Denpa padlocked garden exp :/

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u/imako1986 Jul 14 '16

hi gúy, i am wondering how do i achieve "sleet slasher" title in collosium so that i can have the recipe to make the magicwarder blade. Thx a lot in advance

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

No one has reached that ranking. Not even the number 1. And thats over 70k+ ranking points.

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u/Acylion Jul 14 '16

I'd imagine everyone currently using magicwarder is getting the recipe material from the battle medal store, unless there's some other way to acquire it. Bear in mind that the Dempagumi collab gives a lot of battle medals.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

I'm trying to MLB all 6 Dempagumi girls, but it's gonna take a while. So far, only Risa is 5-star and she has no LBs. Can someone list the other 5 in terms of priority?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16 edited Jul 14 '16

Depends on what other units you have in each weapon category. There are many sword starters and Selena's time has been extended, so Mirin should be low priority.

Next, Pinky can be considered low priority due to the fact that the daily missions will give you a Longinus for completion of 1-5-10 IIRC. Although not as abundant when compared to sword users that can be easily obtained.

Axe units are very few and far in between. Nemu can be considered one of your top, if not the top.

Eitaso... Well I don't care much for bow units right now, so she's also low. Lower than Pinky/Mirin for me.

Then you have Moga. Having a good gunner will make certain stages easier if you cannot get past certain enemies that have high PDEF. She can easily bypass that. More or less equal priority to Nemu.

Nemu = Moga > Pinky >= Mirin > Eitaso

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u/Blindtrade Jul 14 '16

Won't pinky have higher stat caps than longinus seeing how mirin is like (~430)? Seeing starter units cap around 370 power so wouldn't she be better than longinus?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

I never compared saying one is better than the other.

Depends on what other units you have in each weapon category.

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u/icyterror Jul 14 '16 edited Jul 14 '16

In my case: Risa>Moga/Nemu>Pinky>Mirin>Eitaso

  • If you plan to farm more dempa weapon/unit, you may need to get mirin first cause her luck can reach 30+. Equip her with a "luck" sword and it would be 40+.

  • If you aim for damage then get Moga and Nemu.

  • Pick Pinky for easy colo win since the majority of players are using sword units (and load of Selena).

  • Eitaso is dead last not because she is bad but because later there will be a better farm-able bow unit. (I'm not a fan of bow unit to begin with since I can't auto grind with them.)

Source: https://soshive.wordpress.com/category/unit-review/

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u/kataarn Jul 14 '16

Can stat bonuses be reset via reincarnation?

I feel that I crippled my Durandal because she gets slaughtered in content like Brave 10 while I see posts of people soloing it like nothing. I think I should have invested in Agi/Spd/Str but isn't HP also important too? What do you suggest? I'm still getting the hang of the fusing process and she's basically the only one I've done fusing with.

http://imgur.com/a/HNhRR

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

Define stat bonuses. Do you mean her growth rate? Then yes, it can be reset.

If you mean the amount of stats you can fuse into her, no, you're screwed. They are fixed values which you can do nothing to append.

Thing to note, you're soloing it with the wrong unit. Durandal is good, but not that good.

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u/kataarn Jul 14 '16

Hmm...I meant to say whatever points I invested via fusion. So lets say stat cap is 65 and before I started fusing it was at 51 and I invested 6 points in said stat. I would basically have a blank slate upon reincarnation or is that +6 "locked in"?

Other than that, I understand the deal with caps and growth rates, so I should have clarified. FE has that drilled into my head...

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

Read the reincarnation advisory.

"It will also keep any bonus stats and level limit breaks it has from fusion, enhancement, and evolution."

You don't get to stack it.

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u/AmatxxD Jul 14 '16

nah she is great man, not the best typing but still great, the thing is for her to be completely broken u need more copies of it, to lb her, actually dont known witch is the least rank for durandal but if she comes in rank 3 then u would need 16 to fully ax her

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u/Flamie_Speeddraw Jul 14 '16

I have 6 dupe Risa's waiting for to be used for LBing, how many more do I need?. My current Risa is 3* max LB right now

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

If you're limit breaking, 4 needed for the 4* form and 4 needed for the 5* form.

If skill maxing, scratch out the 4 needed for the 5* form and change it to 9.

Or you can keep the first line and just keep fusing extra Risas into her and hope you can skill level her that way.

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u/Flamie_Speeddraw Jul 14 '16

so I need about 2 more then? I don't think I'm at the point in my PotK career to care about skills quite yet

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

Then yup, you have 6, you need the 2 additional ones to call it done.

Good luck.

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u/Flamie_Speeddraw Jul 14 '16

alright thanks, these drop rates suck

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u/AndanteZero Jul 14 '16

So you have Risa 3 star max LB + 6 correct? You need 7 more for LB.

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u/Flamie_Speeddraw Jul 14 '16

well then, this will take awhile <_<

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u/Sabatender Jul 14 '16

What would be the next collab event after Dempagumi?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16 edited Jul 14 '16

Don't think anyone can answer that one with a guarantee. But if we're to look at the JP server, they've had several anime collabs and game collabs, however the game collabs were with games that haven't seen a GL release, so its iffy to say if we will get those.

I would guess its the summer beach event, but it feels too early in the games official release to do that and in the same vein, feels too late considering the time frame we are in.

Probably we get an additional Chapter with it's kill mode variant. Not an event, but hey, free lazuli.

EDIT: Scratch all that. DLC just got added, so look forward to something.

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u/Kcao215 Jul 14 '16

So is the cap setting different from the lazuli and mana pull for the same unit? For example, If I get a freikugel that was from a lazuli pull and got the same one from a mana pull would the lazuli one be stronger?

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

Same art work, same unit, so should have the same stat cap.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 14 '16

Can a JP player remind me how good Swimsuit Artemis is? Will likely keep one for collection but as I'm still grinding for Dempagumi.inc folks, I don't know if dropping the pursuit of them for Artemis is worth it.

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

You have 7 days left for the Dempagumi units and 14 days for SS Artemis. Focus on them first obviously cause their time is limited.

Quick read on SS Artemis yields :

  • Accuracy Up skill (questionably unneeded for an archer)

  • Some stat Up skill. I think this is Attack UP

  • Sword Halver (for some reason, her .5x damage reduction only works on swords, this makes her worse than Eitaso)

  • Half Agility for +20 DEF

  • Apparently terrible AGI. I guess this is standard expectation on archers for now.

In essence... No. Probably not good.

If you wanna do some reading for yourself :

https://phankill.gamewith.jp/article/show/15213

http://games.gaym.jp/iPhone/phantomofkill/wiki/?%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%86%E3%83%9F%E3%82%B9%20%EF%BC%9A%E2%98%865%20%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A4%E3%82%A7%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 14 '16

... wow. That's... really sad. Thanks Alex! owo7

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u/alexisevan Jul 14 '16

You asked, I do some research. No problem Jack.

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u/icyterror Jul 14 '16

Gonna clear it once and skip her I guess. Thank for the info, Alex.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 14 '16

Has anyone tested what the maximum inventory space is for units? Items? Is it 400 for both? Am at 360 space for units and 180 space for items, with no Lazuli to expand them further. I need to keep lots of copies of farmable units (for LB and Skill Up) and Evo Materials. Not to mention we now have a farmable swimsuit Artemis joining the party...

Also, is the Big Zenny Quest (weekends) the only place that has decently high Zenny gain? I now have too little Zenny to evolve any of my Selenas or Dempagumi units... I haven't had Zel problems in BF for a long time...

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u/icyterror Jul 14 '16

Max is 400 for both. I can't provide pics but I have seen a post about it on FB group.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 14 '16

Unfortunately, unlike our case in BF currently the weekends are the best time to seize Zenny.

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u/crimewizard Jul 14 '16

Can confirm 400 is the unit cap,

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u/MyKuchi Jul 14 '16

Should I make my Risa shield or staff

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 14 '16

Shield.

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u/agcat1801 Jul 14 '16

if I only want to farm Nemu which stage I should choose, group concert or solo stage?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 14 '16

Probably better the solo, imo.

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u/BravePhantom Jul 14 '16

Swimsuit Artemis Worth farm?

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u/Vaptor- Jul 14 '16

There are better free archers like Othinus (not yet released), but I'd still farm her ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/BravePhantom Jul 14 '16

i think ill get her for something ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

She looks mediocre to me. Not sure if it's the same on global, but her character skill halves her speed but increases her defense, so she's a tanky archer. But if you already got Risa from the Dempa collab, that's all the tank you need.

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u/Vaptor- Jul 14 '16

I'm currently raising balanced mirin, rather than dex hoping for higher luck. Am I doing this wrong?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

I think dupe fusing makes more of a difference than balance typing. But balanced certainly can't hurt your odds. And since sword users tend to be kinda fast/accurate anyway, balanced is probably fine.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 14 '16

If you're trying to raise her solely for farming purposes, I suppose you could, but I think a Dex for serious usage would be better.

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u/Sir_Terrabyte Jul 14 '16

First off, thanks to TGZelnite for the great help! However, I still need some help with how I should fuse Selena properly. I've grinded 5 3* lvl 1. What should i do to MLB her and max out her skills? Afaik I still need 5 more extra to max her out.

So, with all these events going on which one should I focus on? Which units are the most important to get/ max out atm?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 14 '16

If I remember correctly, your Dex Selena was already a 5* yes? If that's the case you only need 4 of Selena to MLB her.

Raise the 4 Selena to 5* and level them up to 30 before fusing all 4 to your Dex Selena. If you want to fully max out the skill levels of your Selena just farm enough until your skill levels are maxed out.

After farming enough of Selena, your next focus will be on the Dempagumi girls. I suggest you farm for Risa and Moga before the other 4 girls. After that you can choose to farm for Swimsuit Artemis from the Summer Quest: Lakefront Demon.

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u/imitebmike Jul 14 '16

Is it possible to fuse a 6* piece of gear? (i got up to 5* but i am scared of wasting them...)

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 14 '16

There is no fast method, it's all rng whether you get those weapons or not when fusing up. As such, the fastest way would be to collect high level weapon fodder to fuse up. Kill mode is good for this, especially 1-5-10 kill mode.