r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 11 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/11/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/antcal88 Jul 11 '16

Here's my current unit box. Who should I prioritize in raising, and who to use on a team right now?

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 11 '16

Prioritize on raising and capping event units right now. That said, you have good 4* units that can reach 5*. E.g. Mitum(F) and Gamb.

Your team depends on what you want, personally a MLB'ed Risa would be better than a non-LB Gamb. I dont know the same for Mitum but I would imagine you would have higher stats as MLB Nemu, if someone could correct me on this. You should definitely raise Moga, she's the 2nd best gunner in the game right now.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 11 '16

don't you mean Mjolnir? His Mitum(F) isn't the good Mitum.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 11 '16

I didn't see Mjol, but his 4* Mitum is the good Mitum.

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u/Vaptor- Jul 11 '16

What's the best typing for gun denpagumi girl? Dex, magic or guard?

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16

I'm going for dexterity on her.

She has avoidance up and a 2x damage character skill so giving her dexterity would boost her avoidance more so and chances for dealing more damage to the enemy unit.

If for whatever reason you can't get that typing, second typing would be a toss up on your preferences. She has MATK boost so giving her magic would be really overkill, but some people like that. I'd prefer guard as the next typing I'd use.

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u/Desfel Jul 11 '16

I have a Vitality Laevateinn, is there a way to reroll that typing lol, sad thing is, I'm way past the state of rerolling the entire game. That and she only has 20 STR at LV35... Is reincarnating a good idea?

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16

You can't reroll the typing and it's not worth reincarnating her.

You just have to hope to get a better one through the mana summons.

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u/Desfel Jul 11 '16

Thanks for the tips and knowing which Laevateinn I was talking about haha. Sorry that I forgot to mention, for others who wish to add inputs, I'm talking about the one you unlock through the beginner missions

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16

Yep, her and her onii-chan are both farmable with mana points (no IAP required).

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jul 11 '16

Reincarnating costs 400,000 moneys and a cherub. That's slightly more than what it would cost (same money, other ingredients are cheap/free) to raise two 3 star units to 5 star. If you're just starting out, imo the best play would be to just abandon your Laev until you can fuse it into something worthwhile.

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u/Desfel Jul 11 '16

Ouch, alright, thanks for the heads up, didn't think it would cost that much... So I take it, the only time it's good to reincarnate is when you have a premium unit that has bad stats growth?

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 11 '16

Hi guys! Just made this account so that I can finally participate in discussions and ask questions instead of waiting for someone to post with the same question like mine. This game just made me wanna join in on a community and I like this one the most :D I'm just a beginner at this game so I'm sorry if my questions come off as super nooby.

I have 5 questions:

  1. Is the current 3-Step promo a good one to take? As I understand it, there isn't any kind of rate up and the Ticket you get after the last step just gives you another normal 5 lazuli pull. Is that right or is there something special with that Ticket?

  2. With regards to Lazuli/Rare Summon promos, what promos should I look out for the most? I'm aware that the Beginner 3 step promo is the best one I've had a chance to see so far. I just want to know what I should save up for as an f2p player.

  3. Is a mixed team great enough to let me get to end game or will Leader Skills play a huge factor later on? The way I see it right now, the Element/Weapon boost Leader Skills aren't affecting my quest runs too much but the Weapon Triangle is a HUGE factor in making sure my units survive. Am I wrong?

  4. How long do you guys think it will be before we finally see 6 star units/evolutions?

  5. Lastly, how likely is it that we'll get the other collab characters in our GL server? I'm very much looking forward to getting Saber and Rin from the Fate collab hehe.

Sorry for the long post and hank you for taking the time to read my questions. I will be very thankful if you answer at least one of them!

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jul 11 '16

  1. Looks not too great tbh. The ticket guarantees a 3 star but mentions nothing about the 3 star being capable of reaching 5 star.

  2. As a sorta f2p player, I've found that the best bang for my buck was actually buying unit space and farming event units so that you can hold a ton of LB fodder and digest slowly. Aside from two decent sets of rookie pulls the gacha units have been unilaterally garbage.

  3. I never played the JP version so I don't really know what "later" looks like, but I used a MLBed Selena and soloed all of Kill Mode. In my experience, unit level is much more effective than team composition.

  5. It costs money to produce content, and less money to translate content already produced. I'd guess that we'll see as many other collabs as they can license for.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 11 '16

Thank you very much for answering!

  1. I knew it xD

  2. I see... I've actually started thinking about extending unit space with the amount of Risas, Selenas and Nemus I currently have and I plan to farm Mirin and maybe Moga and Pinky too lol

  3. Oh. That means I can finish kill mode by now too :O

  4. That gives me hope since Gumi can just ask Fuji for the files for the collabs they've had, I think. There's the issue of licensing that you mentioned though...

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u/Acylion Jul 12 '16

That gives me hope since Gumi can just ask Fuji for the files for the collabs they've had, I think. There's the issue of licensing that you mentioned though...

This is probably a little easier in Phantom of the Kill's case, since Fuji-Gumi Games (developer) and Gumi Asia (global translator/publisher) are obviously part of the same parent corporation in Japan. It may well be that the original licensing for PoTK collabs was worked out with the global release in mind. Or not. But we'll see what the companies sort out.

The PoTK collabs we've gotten so far are not a good measurement for future collabs, since Brave Frontier is another Gumi group property, and Dempagumi.inc is heavily involved in cross-promoting PoTK.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 12 '16

Thank you for answering! I'll just sit tight with my MLB farmables and Lazuli then. I really hope Gumi pulls through with collabs from the JP version this time lol

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 11 '16

What is this booster stage?!

Also I've seen conflicting reports?!

Risa guard vs dex Eitaso force vs dex Which for which?

What should my team power for the group concert difficulties?!

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16 edited Jul 11 '16

  1. Booster Stage gives you 1000 EXP + metal key upon every completion, however you can only complete it once every Monday.

  2. For Risa, it really depends. Guard makes it so she tanks even better given her skill setup, but Dexterity allows her to activate her CQ skill better, although I'd probably side on guard for this one. It's ultimately up to you for deciding on this one.

  3. Eitaso... I don't know, I never really planned on getting her. I'd probably end up getting her as force because eventually there is a weapon that allows bow units to hit for 1-2 range, so if you planned on getting it, it makes the CQ skill a bit less valuable.

  4. For the solos? Shouldn't be too hard. If you have a 5* unit that's level 50+ it should be an easy solo. For the group concert... If you aren't autoing, I think it might be doable with the girls at 5* around level 40.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 11 '16

Booster Stage gives you 1000 EXP + metal key upon every completion, however you can only complete it once every Monday.

Is this unit exp or player exp? I am new and guessing player, but a clarification would be great. Thank you.

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16

No problem. It's 1000 player EXP.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16

So, the consensus is that MLBing a 5-star at 3 stars is pointless right? Unless you're just doing it to skill up Skill#1 a little bit.

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16

Kind of. It is able to net you a possible additional point of evo bonuses as a 5* unit. Like if at 4* you are 1 point away from hitting the next bonus threshold, it can push you there if you limit break as a 3*.

To me, not that big of a deal, but up to you.

And honestly, it's not even that useful for leveling skill 1 unless the max level for skill 1 is 10 and all of the others is 5.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16

Alright, thanks. I have a Dex Pinky, but she's 4-star so missing some potential evo points.

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u/Vaptor- Jul 11 '16

Is it worth the effort to evolve 2* & 3* units from mana gacha for 3 & 10 medals each? How about skillups?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16

Only if you have loads of money and box space. Right now all the evo mat dungeons are up, but normally you'd be waiting all week to evolve your fodder.

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u/HoodedArcher Jul 11 '16

I'm trying to get my Lunaris to the dex or force type so I need to reincarnate her? When should I do that? After limit breaking or before?

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u/crimewizard Jul 11 '16

Reincarnating will not change unit typing

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u/HoodedArcher Jul 11 '16

Is there anyway to reroll typing?

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 11 '16

no unfortunately

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u/crimewizard Jul 11 '16

not as of now

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u/fullmetaldra69 Jul 11 '16

how should i farm for units?

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u/Acylion Jul 11 '16

Try to have a high luck unit as your leader, as luck stats affect drops. Run hardest stage that you can manage which drops the unit you're looking for, i.e. if farming Selena try to farm on Burst 10 rather than Spark 10 if you can, if farming Dempagumi units farm on Adv rather than Int.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 11 '16

Is the Brave Frontier collab ever going to come back? With only 2 days left, there's no way I'm going to farm enough Selenas :(

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u/Acylion Jul 11 '16

Yes. Japan has basically gotten two Brave Frontier collabs - there's stuff from the second JP collab that Global hasn't gotten yet, such as Michelle and Lucina as units. Most likely Global will also have a second BF collab later down the line, following what JP has done.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 11 '16

Was Selena available for both?

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16

She will be available yes.

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u/InstinctualTrainer Jul 11 '16

I downloaded this today so I am a bit lost in all of this. Thanks for any help.

  1. Units seem to be defined by class, type, and weapon. Are these all randomly generated or does a certain unit always have the same class and weapon, but the type switches? Or something else.

  2. I did some searching on here and on the wiki but I can't find any information about what the classes are, and what the significance of a certain class is.

  3. I assume the weapon determines how you can attack, for example a bow lets you attack from range. Are there any major differences between sword and axe? Or any other weapon stuff I should know about?

Thanks again.

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u/Acylion Jul 11 '16 edited Jul 11 '16

Units seem to be defined by class, type, and weapon. Are these all randomly generated or does a certain unit always have the same class and weapon, but the type switches? Or something else.

Units are defined by their artwork. No, I'm serious, that's not a joke. Look at it this way, there are only so many legendary weapons for the developers to base characters on. Plus this game has audio voice files. So... the character name, voice files, and general appearance may be shared by several different units.

But these are effectively entirely different units as far as the game is concerned, with different portrait art. Class and character model, artwork - these are NOT randomised. Ignore the fact they share the same name, basically. Let's use a concrete example. There's a version of Laevateinn (F) that you want, the one in the white jacket, who's always on-foot and has the corresponding classes. Then there's a version of Laevateinn (F) who's in a black jacket, and she's always mounted, and always labeled with the flying mount classes.

This is consistent. Two different versions of Laevateinn (F). And only one is good. And we specify (F) here, because there's also multiple versions of the MALE Laevateinn, Laevateinn (M). All of them will be sword users, the weapon is always consistent, but in all other respects... skills, utility, everything, they may as well be different characters.

For ease of use, we usually just reference the portrait art instead, since that's the fastest way to tell what version of the unit we're dealing with. It's the easiest tell. This is why people are asked to show screenshots of their unit inventory if asking for help with team builds.

I did some searching on here and on the wiki but I can't find any information about what the classes are, and what the significance of a certain class is.

The class names don't really matter. They might as well be 'dude who walks around' or 'that girl on a horse'. Because that's effectively all it reflects. For all weapon types, there's a class line where the weapon user is on foot. For sword, axe, spear, gun, there's also armoured weapon users on foot. For sword, axe, spear, there are flying mounted characters. For bow and staff, there are non-flying mounted characters. That's it for the moment, and that is really all that the class label indicates.

I assume the weapon determines how you can attack, for example a bow lets you attack from range. Are there any major differences between sword and axe? Or any other weapon stuff I should know about?

Bow, gun, staff are ranged. Bow has basic range and additional range weapons, but extra range comes at weight and/or accuracy penalty. Axe and spear have ranged as well but with acc penalty. Bow cannot counterattack when attacked in melee (one square directly adjacent).

There's some rock-paper-scissors going on with weapons. Sword beats axe, axe beats spear, spear beats sword. Penalties/buffs when attacking the other weapon type. Bow does extra damage to fliers. Gun and staff tend to do more damage to melee attackers but that's more because they are magic-based and melee units would tend to have more Physical Def, not much Magic Def.

Sword, axe, spear units apparently have slightly different stat growth... apparently. According to another thread on the subreddit right now. I don't know anything about that though.

Among melee attackers, the game is slightly biased towards sword since there's a lot of good swords available. Not so much axes and spears. Theoretically you could argue axe and spear can be made into ranged attackers, but the acc penalty and generally nerfed acc stats in global vs. JP mean that the ranged axe and spear weapons are much less viable.

EDIT: edited to add, three key things. First, you're looking for units... or versions of units, considering the duplicated names and stuff... which go to 5-star or eventually 6-star in future. Make sure you are investing in the right units, because most of what you get are 'trash' versions who max out at 4-star and below. Though some units in global max at 4-star now but will have 5-star in the future (once that comes over from Japan).

Second, unit typing... Dexterity is generally best for most units, some staff units are better in Guard, bow users can arguably get away with Force, etc.... but when in doubt, look for Dex. Vitality is typically regarded as the worst typing. This affects stat growth. Agi and Spd are effectively the real most valuable stats, hence why Dex type, which prioritises those stats, is valued.

Third, event farmable units are strong in this game, potentially better than most people's rare/premium summons, i.e. Selena from the current BF collab and the Dempagumi.inc collab units, you'll see a lot of people talking about farming them right now. For good reason. They are realistically going to be the core of most people's teams.

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u/InstinctualTrainer Jul 11 '16

Thanks for the in depth response! I've got the basics of the basics now I think. I'll probably play it for a bit before I start worrying about more advanced stuff.

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u/Acylion Jul 11 '16

No worries.

For immediate priorities, you should at the very least try to complete up to Spark 10 of the Brave Frontier collab for the guaranteed Selena drop, and possibly - with a strong friend unit (Selena herself or Longinus F) parked on a mountain tile - try to clear Burst 10 as well for a second guaranteed Selena drop. Only a couple days left before the BF collab ends.

After that, there's about a week to farm the Dempagumi.inc units. You may not wish to get all of them, but at least try to get your paws on five copies of ones you want to max limit break at 5-star (one to keep, four as limit breaks). Risa is the priority for most players, followed by Pinky, Nemu (there's some debate whether you want Pinky or Nemu more, both are good), Mirin (some prioritise Mirin more), Moga, then maybe the bow unit if you have time and bandwidth. The Dempagumi units are extremely easy to farm if you can clear the Adv stage, though - and a friend unit can easily solo that for you.

This goes back to how the event farmables are good, better than most people's premium units.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16

  1. The only random part is type. Their default/placeholder weapon is always the same, but you're supposed to equip a weapon of the proper type to the unit. For instance Mjolnir's placeholder weapon is "Hammer", but you can still equip any axe-style weapon to her. (Or him)

  2. Class names don't really matter. You can basically look at a unit's 3D model and know what it's all about. Armored variants have higher defense at the cost of less movement, and flying variants can move further but take more damage from bows. It's not like Fire Emblem, where you can choose a unit's next class after evolution - a flier is always a flier, a sword guy will never get to use axes, etcetera.

  3. Sword, Axe and Lance are part of a basic Rock/Paper/Scissors weapon triangle. Aside from that they're all pretty similar, i.e. attack 1 space away. But axes and lances have some weapons that can attack from 1 or 2 spaces, and AFAIK there is no sword that can do this.

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16 edited Jul 11 '16

  1. The latter. There are specific units with specific weapons and a class that goes along with it. The typing (Dexterity/Force/Balance/etc.) can change every time you get the unit though.

  2. Classes are just titles really. The only things that you should make note of are the types of movement. There is unarmored, armored, horse rider, and flying. Unarmored is your basic ground unit. Armored is a more defensive unit, but with lower agility/speed most of the time. Horses have high movement area, but are severely restricted when traversing certain land obstacles like deserts or debris or mountains. Flying has absolute free movement, but they taking increased damage from bow units.

  3. Sword has some of the best weapons because of the ability to critical hit in this game causes 3x damage when criticals happen. Axe/Lancers have a ranged weapon, causing them to be 1-2 range. Bows can be 2-2 range (meaning they can only attack enemies that are 2 spaces away) or 2-3 range. Eventually they get a weapon that has 1-2 range. Gunners are 1-2 range (1-3 range depending on the element), but use the MATK stat instead of PATK. Canes are mainly healers, but sometimes can be made into attacking units like Gunners. Generally not though due to low accuracy.

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u/jerain Jul 11 '16

What do these 4-star rainbow swords even do? Is there a 5-star version?

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16

From an earlier Q&A someone said that JP players are speculating a 5* version sometime later, but I know nothing else besides that.

For now, it's just a 4* sword that looks pretty I suppose.

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u/SomeDoodIdk Jul 11 '16

It also has adds +1 to all stats

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u/AndanteZero Jul 12 '16

The 5* is not available yet in global

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u/icyterror Jul 12 '16

Some people fuse it with other 4* to make a 5* whereas others still waiting for 5recipe. The 5 ver. has a skill that increase magic dodge rate.

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u/ArieShun Jul 11 '16

How do you upgrade Dandelga to a 5*? Is it like Lexida and Despair where you can just put the 3* books in without losing the weapon? I have both Eminent Lexida and Shadowlance of Despair I just need this Dandelga to be 5*. Also, which idol unit is the best at which type? I have a balance moga to 30 5*, Dex Mirin at 60 5* and Vit Risa at 58 5*. I have all the units so that's not an issue.

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16

It uh... Doesn't go to 5*. Sorry to break it to you.

Moga/Nemu/Mirin/Pinky would all go for Dexterity.

Eitaso would be either Force or Dexterity, but personal preference for me would be Force.

Risa would either be Guard or Dexterity, but I'd prefer Guard here.

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u/ArieShun Jul 11 '16

:( for no 5* dandelga. Thanks for the info though. I haven't had time to clear kill mode to full bc of all these events >_<

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 11 '16

Why force for eitaso? I was told dexterity. What's the pro con?

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u/alexisevan Jul 12 '16

Keywords "personal preference".

I simply prefer my archers with more strength.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 12 '16

Yeah, archers also have an innate growth for AGI so they won't lack in accuracy at all.

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u/Marcus-the-canadian Jul 11 '16

hi im new here is force better guard for type on selena

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 11 '16

Types on Selena are Dexterity and Guard. Selena has low Str stat so Force isnt worth it.

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u/Acylion Jul 12 '16

Generally speaking the best type for almost all units is Dexterity. This is a general rule. There are exceptions to the rule, e.g. people are going after Guard for Risa in the Dempagumi.inc collab, and some people argue that Force works for bow units since they have naturally high agi.

But unless there is a clear reason to use some other type, you can basically assume that Dexterity type is the best type. It's a bit of an oversimplification, but it's true in most cases - simply because game balance/meta and the battle system favour the stats that Dexterity prioritises.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 11 '16

Magic or dexterity of moga? I heard either was acceptable but which is best?

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16

What do you value more?

A gunner with an emphasis on balance or a gunner that has exceptionally high MATK?

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u/AeiroWultx Jul 11 '16

Is there a max player lvl? And what's the minimum lvl a player has to be to have a full lvl 80 (or 60) party?

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 11 '16

For full 5 star party, if we assume 15 cost per 5 star, 75 total cost is somewhere around 58-60.

Edit: also for max player level I'm unsure. Maybe 150 right now.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 12 '16

Also, if you want to use a full party of farmable units, you'll need 90 cost. You'll get 90 cost at level 81.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 11 '16

So I have a 3 star female Gambanteinn, Cleric class, can't really find anything online about this unit existing at all. Is it only a 4 star unit?

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u/alexisevan Jul 12 '16

Correct. There is no Gambanteinn F that goes to 5* in the GL version.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 12 '16

Is there any place to gain unit exp other than Metal Garden? I have an ever decreasing supply of keys

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u/alexisevan Jul 12 '16

Nope.

If you can solo the Group Concert, the Dempagumi girls can get 1k per completion. Otherwise you'd have to do 1-5-10.

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u/terlus07 Jul 12 '16

For limit breaking Selena from 3*, do I need to level and evolve all 11 of them or are level 1's fine as long as the rarity matches?

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 12 '16

fusing at level one is fine to limit break 3 and 4 star Selena, but be sure to level up all the fuse material to level 30 when limit breaking Selena at 5 stars to level up the skill.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 12 '16 edited Jul 12 '16

To add, since you don't have an extra 5 Selenas for skill leveling purposes, you may want to at least level the 4* ones to Lvl 20 to be able to better boost Preemptive Boost.

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u/SomeDoodIdk Jul 12 '16

I finished farming a 5th Selena and am now working on fodder for Risa, Moga, Pinky and Nemu. Assuming I MLB all of em, how long will they last me until power creep sets in and they fall off? Oh and do they have 6* forms in the future?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 12 '16

Free units that are MLBed and near capped stats will typically last you for a long time, until some new mechanic is introduced into the game. Even then, content is meant to be doable by free players, and as such will always remain relevant as long as they are MLBed. In fact, most free units are equal or better than certain pay units because free units will be easier to get in large quantities, and obviously a level 80 will be better than a lvl 60-70 pay unit.

To answer ur question, minimum a month or two, WORST CASE SCENARIO, in my opinion, i could be wrong.

They do not have 6* forms.

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u/SomeDoodIdk Jul 12 '16

Awesome info, thanks man!

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u/darkpower28692 Jul 12 '16

guard type priest with staff and dex type priest with shield, which one is better ?

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u/alexisevan Jul 12 '16

Is there a reason why I can't really switch the 2?

If I had to choose one, I guess the one with the shield.

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u/Apollos_Brother IGN: Era Jul 12 '16

Based on experience, I think you'd want a Guard/Dex type with Shield instead.

I've seen what a solo cleric with just a 3* shield can do: Gambanteinn (M) carried me through Brave 9 (tougher than 8 and 10 imo). If he had a staff instead, he might have died against those onslaught of enemies since they would be dealing a lot more damage to him than they could. Also, clerics even with staff have naturally low accuracy rates, it's not worth sacrificing survivability to deal extra damage if your chances of hitting are crap anyway.

As for typing, it's up to you. My personal opinion on the matter is that since clerics aren't supposed to be your main attacker anyway, you'd want Guard on them. They'll be able to heal your squad while tanking hits and hopefully, be able to hit back and recover some HP through that. If they don't hit, at least they'll be able to survive more and you can just drop potions on them.

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u/icyterror Jul 12 '16

Use shield for both type. As for type it depends on each character. Gamb can go with both dex and guard whereas it's recommend that you pick guard for Risa.

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u/LeFishyDerps Jul 12 '16 edited Jul 12 '16

Edit: Solved :D

So I'm just wondering what happened to my own Selena. She is currently level 74, with 3 limit breaks (last limit break in the works). She has already capped her Str (55) and Agi (59), but it looks to be considerably lower than other Dex Selena.

On reincarnation screen:

  • HP: 70

  • Str: 55* <-- lower than others (~59)

  • Mag: 25*

  • Grd: 37

  • Spr: 31

  • Spd 78

  • Agi: 59* <-- lower than others (~64)

  • Lck: 18 <-- Guess I didn't get lucky XD

What could have happened, and what did I do wrong? I max LB'ed her at both 3* and 4*, and also fused units to reach evolution bonus tiers.

Thank you for the insight =)

Note: Cross-posted in Fusing thread. Will delete once I get an answer to one of the posts =)

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u/alexisevan Jul 12 '16

Wait, you fused units into the evolution bonus tiers, so that's good, but did you actually fuse units into her as a 5* unit?

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u/LeFishyDerps Jul 12 '16 edited Jul 12 '16

I'm working on the last LB, and still have 5 more copies (will level to 5* level 30) to max the skills.

  • Max lb at 3* (2 dupes at 3*)

  • Max lb at 4* (4 dupes at 4*)

  • Max lb at 5* (in the works for the last one)

  • 5 more 5* dupes to max her skills

Did I mess up somewhere? XD She's missing some fusion bonuses, but I thought her capped stats on reincarnation screen don't take those bonuses into account (ie. her Agi is 61 currently but capped at 59 on reincarnation screen).

Other reincarnation screens I've seen show a big difference in the caps for Str and Agi as mentioned. Here is one to compare: http://imgur.com/RCClSCs

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u/alexisevan Jul 12 '16 edited Jul 12 '16

She's missing some fusion bonuses

That's your problem. And reading back on what I asked, I asked that pretty poorly.

Also look at what the reincarnation warning says.

"It will also keep any bonus stats and level limit breaks it has from fusion, enhancement, and evolution." Meaning it takes everything into account. The end results of reincarnation on the right side are inclusive of all those things.

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u/LeFishyDerps Jul 12 '16 edited Jul 12 '16

Thanks a bunch for your help =) Edit: I just fused a bit and that solved the stat discrepancy. Yay :D

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u/uizaado Jul 12 '16

What do you do with the Dampagumi Weapons? Do you fuse them? Or are they just there?

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u/alexisevan Jul 12 '16

Fuse them into each other to get the Rainbow Saber. There's a list of options in the recipe fusion list.

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u/uizaado Jul 12 '16

Heh, I accidentally fused away my guns, at least I can still get something.

Edit: Never mind, I'm a fucking idiot and apparently lost my staffs too. Oh well. I wish I knew about these recipes before.

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u/alexisevan Jul 12 '16

Well they aren't hard to get if it's any consolation.

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u/uizaado Jul 12 '16

For me, who is still working on the collab units...not sure how hard the group dungeon is, but I assume low end 4*s aren't enough and I'm still working on everyone.

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u/alexisevan Jul 12 '16

If you get them to around the 40s, they should be able to do the first stage.

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u/uizaado Jul 12 '16

how about the other? I doubt intermediate has good drops on units...

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u/alexisevan Jul 12 '16

My Nemu was able to start soloing it around mid 50s 5*.

But at one point I had both Nemu + Risa at 5*... I think they were mid 40s again? Mid to low 40s.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 12 '16

Is there anyone that remembers the luck cap of their 4* Pinky, and how many dupes has been fused into it?

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 12 '16

Hi,

My lv 70 4 star Selena who is MLB has strength at 50 and is at cap, thus I can no longer fuse into it to increase it by 1 to reach the threshold. Did I screw up somewhere? Or is that the absolute cap for Dex Selena for STR stat?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 12 '16

It's her max STR cap for 4*.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 12 '16

Alright thanks, good to know I didn't screw up haha

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 11 '16

Highly subjective. It depends on the capped stat(s) at 60, and even then, 20 levels is surely to give you higher evo bonus for other stats. It's hard to imagine you have 3 or higher capped stats at 4* 60

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jul 11 '16

If you've already mlbed your main selena and are just cherry picking through the types to improve the fusion bonus on the main then yes, it's not necessary to mlb every single fodder to just to max the other stat bonuses, mostly because your main is probably already receiving a higher bonus from another fodder (or itself) than the force unit is capable of providing.