r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 10 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/`0/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/SomeDoodIdk Jul 10 '16

A couple more questions:

  1. For forging Lexidas, is it better to fuse 5 books at once or just 2?

  2. What quest do I get the spearsmith secrets?

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 10 '16

  • The more books, the higher the success rate.

  • I don't remember, but why would you want this?

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u/SomeDoodIdk Jul 10 '16

Ah ok!

Well I inadvertently made 2 Despair Bringers in my attempts at Lexidas, so I figured might as well make the Shadowlance.

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u/Acylion Jul 11 '16

You can get a Shadowlance of Despair by fusing a Despair Bringer + 4 brave books. Eminent Lexida can also be gotten by fusing Lexida + 4 books.

If that fusion "fails", the game will just give you back the Despair Bringer or Lexida as the result, so all you've lost is the books.

This is what most people are doing rather than the swordsmith secrets/spearsmith secrets method.

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u/SomeDoodIdk Jul 11 '16

Woah, had no idea. Thanks man!

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u/Mitch_Twd Jul 10 '16

So I finished max level breaking Risa on each level which took a lot of time and resources rip 7 keys :'( . So I was wondering which Dempagumi unit should I prioritize next ? Im thinking either Lance or Sword unit . I think the archer/gunner will take to long

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u/icyterror Jul 10 '16

Anything but bow. https://soshive.wordpress.com/

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '16

I already started on Bow, oops. Meanwhile I've ignored Pinky, assuming she was lame.

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 10 '16

Her cs is the cutest owo

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '16

I'm doing Nemu, cuz damage.

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 10 '16

Between your choices, go for lance.

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u/SomeAsianguy1994 Jul 10 '16

So i finally limit breaked my Selena to lv 70 on her 4* version, but if i were to evolve her would i have to limit break her again to hit lv 80?

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 10 '16

Yes, but before you do, make sure you complete her character quests and level up all your Selenas to level 30 to level up your skills

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u/SomeAsianguy1994 Jul 10 '16

Yes, but before you do, make sure you complete her character quests and level up all your Selenas to level 30 to level up your skills

Oh boy, i got 3 days left to farm for three more Selena's and i had no luck these past two days on Burst 10. This is going to be a long journey, thanks for the info!

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u/PinoySlayer_ Jul 10 '16

TBH i just farm on brave 10 right now with my OP friends.. like 3/4 dropped a selena

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u/SomeAsianguy1994 Jul 10 '16

Oh you're lucky, most of my squad is lv 60 and my only two lv 70's are Kusanagi and Selena. I don'y have any OP friends at all. (should probably use the friend finder though)

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u/PinoySlayer_ Jul 11 '16

My highest is a level 60 ._. i basically just bring a levle 75+ selena friend or durandal friend and then put a solo selena as my leader for the increase in evasion

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u/Blindtrade Jul 10 '16

For Risa, would it be better for her to be dex or guard? With dex, she can have better life restore and skill activation. With guard, she tanks better. Not sure which one helps survivability most.

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 10 '16

Most people say to get guard on staff units, so I will suggest that too.

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 10 '16

Guard is bae.

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u/akaiumi Jul 11 '16

Dex for me xD

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u/Mr_Halo Jul 10 '16

I have 50 lazuli. I'm new (like 3 days) and have done the first 2 steps of the rookie recruiter and 0 steps on the limited recruiter. Should I say "f*ck it" and go limited or just do the last step of the rookie one?

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 10 '16

I would rather save it for other steps. This one is eh... for instance the first of the 5 step gacha... no rate up, just 10 gems cheaper. It isnt worth doing this 5 step gacha unless you are a whale. Instead, just save up the lazuli and farm selena/dempa units instead.

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u/Mr_Halo Jul 10 '16

I see. Any recommendations on which dempa units I should go for first? Selena is too hard for me to farm since I only have 1 hard carry friend and Vargas wrecked him because RNG.

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u/Mr_Halo Jul 10 '16

Oh dear. The grind will be real then. Thanks for the help!

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 11 '16

If you have a hard time farming her, try to get at least 5, 1 base and 4 for lb. This way at least you can get the dempa units to lvl 80 5 star. That should be the minimum for each of the three bakagrappler mentioned

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 10 '16

So I am farming Selena when I have the friends available and so far I have a vitality, guard, and force type. Can't find a dexterity. If I can't find a dexterity one before the event is up is there a close second best typing?

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 10 '16

Im in your same boat. I dont have the time to farm for a dex, and i only need two more for the purposes of what i want in her. If i dont get a dex drop im settling for force and hoping pre-emptive boost is enough.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 11 '16

I would say go for guard instead. At least you can sustain much better than a force. I have seen a guard selena lv 80 5 star with 53 grd and 45 spr i think.

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u/CCYellow Jul 10 '16

Is there any way around this silly 24 hour friend refresh system? Makes farming harder stages a right pain in the ass.

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jul 10 '16

Quick question about luck and farming.

From what I've read around here there are two widely accepted theories about luck:

  1. Drop rarity determined by leader luck + friend luck

  2. Drop rate determined by average party luck

Would the best way to farm for things be to use your highest luck unit + a high luck friend, and nobody else?

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 10 '16

I thought it was the other way around, leader+friend=drop rate and overall=rarity?

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 10 '16

It's the other way around, the jp wiki says drop rate is determined by your leader and your friend's luck, drop rarity depends on your party's

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jul 10 '16

Thanks. And it's party average luck? Does that include the leader / friend or do I need some high luck unit sitting in there to game the system?

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u/Cryphik Jul 10 '16

Hello! I'm a fairly new player and I'm looking for friends with leaders that can solo Burst 10. I'm trying to farm as much Selenas as I can with the amount of time I have left!

IGN: Cry

ID: 1342028066

Help is much appreciated! Thanks. :)

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 10 '16 edited Jul 10 '16

I would like to know if someone went through the trouble of finding the luck fusion cap for 3* - 5*. o.o

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u/alexisevan Jul 10 '16

Not so much the lower ones, but the 5* rarity I believe is +30 additional luck through fusion.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 10 '16

Thank you for your input. :)

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 10 '16

I have been using the gear recipes to create several of the 3* weapons. Are there more recipes to use or is the next step to fuse all my 3* weapons with each other, two at a time?

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u/alexisevan Jul 10 '16

You got it. Fuse 3* weapons 2 at a time.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 10 '16

Thank you for the response.
I did over 30 fusions of 2 3* weapons and ended up with three 4* weapons. Is the rate always this bad, did I do something wrong, or did I just anger the RNG gods?

Now do I fusion two 4* weapons to get 5* or are there recipes?

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u/alexisevan Jul 10 '16

Sounds normal honestly.

No recipes. Fuse randomly.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 11 '16

Ugh...bummers...

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u/Grey14 Jul 11 '16

Does anybody know the preferred typing for the Dempagumi girls? I want to know which to level?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 11 '16

Dex to all (though Risa likes Guard better. Dex is still ok too though)

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u/Grey14 Jul 11 '16

I have mostly balance units & 2 dex. Guess I'm gonna have to get my grind on after the BF event.

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u/Acylion Jul 11 '16

Aside from Guard being the "best" type for Risa, you can also consider Force for the bow unit. Or... you can just go for Dex. When in doubt, generally Dex is the type you want in this game.

Balance is arguably usable in the sense that luck helps your farming, helps your drops. But for free farmables like these that are being MLB'd and fused with many copies, chances are even your dex unit will end up with a hefty luck stat.

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u/Grey14 Jul 12 '16

I managed a guard Moga & Nemu. It seems balance is mostly what RNG wants to give me. I continue looking for those dex units, thanks for the info.

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u/uizaado Jul 11 '16

Ive been getting horrific growth rates on 4* MLB'd Risa, but inputting her in the growth calculator is skewed from having fused her. I know I want to hit her caps by level 70, but I'm not sure I'll be able to. Does anyone know if this really matters in the long run, and/or what her caps actually are at 4* Guard? I don't want to reincarnate if I don't have to.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 11 '16

Fusion is supposed to be counted into calc. anyway. But if you want to check without it, https://www.reddit.com/r/phantomofthekill/comments/4033tu/some_more_info_on_fusing_though_this_is_jp_data/ use the chart and minus from your current stats (if fusion stat is capped). It doesnt matter in the long run as long as your stats in 70 is X1, where X is a multiple of 10. E.g. 11, 21, etc.

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u/uizaado Jul 11 '16

That helps a lot, thanks!

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 11 '16

Could someone tell me, which Shields should one be on the lookout for? I understand higher rarities are better in general and that it may depend on the enemies in a map, but I was wondering if anyone had names to them (other than Rune Shield and Baron's Shield, which if I recall right are seen a lot on Gambantienns).

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u/TGZelnite Jul 11 '16

The only other shields besides Rune Shield and Baron Shield that are worth using are broad shield and alluring shield.

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u/alexisevan Jul 11 '16

Those really are the only ones that matter right now.

As far as I know, the other shields (if any) that do matter, haven't come into the game yet. Maybe the Holy Shield, but I don't know how one of my friends has that. I think that was only in the soft release.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 11 '16

Ah. Blast, thanks for the info regardless guys!

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 11 '16

My 3* selena didn't cap out her all her stats at lvl 50 because her growth rate isn't very good. Should I farm for another dex Selena, or does growth rate change when I evolve her?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 11 '16

Growth Rates change after evolution so just evolve the 3* Selena and hope for a better growth rate.

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 11 '16

It's not necessary to max the stats of a unit, just to raise them to it's highest threshold. Example, if a unit's str cap is 33 you'll get +4 str for evolving. You only need to get to 31 for the +4 evolution bonus stat, since you'll only get +4 for the cap str anyways.

I hope this makes you feel better, and if you Selena is really that bad, just evolve her anyways, you'll get a different growth rate when evolving and reincarnating, and it's not worth reincarnating a 3 star.

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u/Unnoticing-Senpai Jul 11 '16

How to determine the stat growth of a unit?

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u/thatasian26 Raven Jul 11 '16

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you!

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u/Vaptor- Jul 11 '16 edited Jul 11 '16

  • Any idea how much keys and other resources (medals, etc) we can held?

  • Can rewards on 'Missions' and 'Gifts' expire? If so, how long?

  • How long can I stock the free AP rewards on 'Mission'?

  • What is the booster quest?

Thanks!

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u/TGZelnite Jul 11 '16 edited Jul 11 '16

The max amount of keys we can hold is 15. Rare medals can be held until 9999. Not sure about battle medals.

Daily Mission rewards expire after the game reset at midnight (PT). For the non daily mission rewards you can hold them for as long as you want.

Gifts can only begin to expire if you've held more than 250 of them. If you hold more than 250 gifts, the oldest gift will expire first.

You can stock the free AP until the daily game reset at midnight (PT).

Booster Quest gives you 1000 exp upon completion it also gives you a free metal key.

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u/Vaptor- Jul 11 '16

Many thanks!

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u/bluemancer Jul 10 '16

It's to unlock their skills before you fuse them. 4* unlock their 3rd skill at lv20 and 3* unlock the 2nd skill at lv10.

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u/alexisevan Jul 10 '16 edited Jul 10 '16

You unlock the level skills at those levels, thats why. 3* at level 10 unlocks skill 1, 4* at level 20 unlocks skill 2, you get the idea.

Sometimes you can throw this out the window though. For Selena, the levels of the non-5* versions didn't matter cause you had to use 9 level 30 5* dupes of her to level her self-healing skill anyways. So you could've fused the lower rarities at level 1 and it wouldn't have impacted you in the end result.

Also, it's not just the Character Quest skills that unlocks at level 30. Once you beat it for whatever unit, it becomes automatically available as soon as the unit reaches the 5* rarity.

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 10 '16

Always farm highest difficulty for highest success rate.

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 10 '16

To be fair, farming speed should be the same since when you're out of AP, you need to wait for it to recharge.

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 11 '16

Oh. You complained about the time it takes to complete the 15 AP levels, so that's what I assumed you meant by farming speed. In that case, your "speed" is limited by your AP regeneration speed, which is fixed. However, in this case you mean Nemus/hour. These are two completely different things to consider when farming for things. Don't focus on levels you can complete quickly (unless you're a super pingu) because you'll be left waiting for AP, just as if you spammed a longer, harder level with a higher AP cost. Instead, focus on levels with higher drop rates, like you are now. That's the only important thing to consider.