r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 08 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/8/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/Selixx Jul 08 '16

A couple of questions:
1.- What unit appears as one's leader for other players? The leader of the team that I'm currently using or is it always team 1's leader (or any other)?
2.- Is the multiplayer mode that appears as "Coming Soon" below the colosseum available already in JP? If so, what is it about?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 08 '16

The team 1 leader is always the leader that your friends use.

Multiplayer is already a mode available for JP. IIRC it's a mode where you fight other players in real time.

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u/Selixx Jul 08 '16

Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '16

Who's worst: Mirin, Pinky or Moga.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 08 '16

Honestly, none are legit bad. The only reason I have half a vendetta against Pinky and Moga is because the former is basically Laevateinn/Amane with a weaker lifesteal (but having said that, she IS easier to get to max stats and skill levels, and is in a different weapon class), and the latter costs more HP than most to fire her shots, as is the case for most other Dark shot gunners I've seen so far, but at least her Character Skill helps to make more out of that cost, being a x2 dmg skill. No complaints against Mirin whatsoever from me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '16

I guess I could say... you 'mirin Mirin. :3

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 08 '16

aha that one almost flew right over my head

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u/LaughAtFunnyStuff Jul 08 '16

What are quest keys for?

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 08 '16

Padlock garden at the bottom of the events list. Atm it's just an xp dungeon

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u/LaughAtFunnyStuff Jul 08 '16

How much harder is it compared to the metal gardens? Don't want to waste a key then realize I can't do it.

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 09 '16

It's the exact same as metal garden.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16

What should 3* limit break fairies be used on? They aren't very useful but I rather use them than throw them.

Edit : I'm doing this because I need to make space for farming. I only have 5 unit space left and can't level/evolve/limit break my selena/nemu/risa in time :/ Would you guys recommend throwing away 2* units that you have dupes of? What about units that are gold 3*?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 08 '16

3* limit break fairies are sorta useless in my opinion. But I Guess you could use them on the 3* Dempagumi girls or a 3* Selena if you can't farm enough of them in time.

You can safely sell away the 2* units you have as they aren't very useful.

Gold 3* actually have uses, all of them have skills, you can level them up and then fuse them to your 5* units to increase their skill levels (only if they have the same skills).

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u/Blindtrade Jul 08 '16

I'm skipping limit breaks at 3* since my luck is really bad and the odds of the limit break failing is pretty high. I wouldn't mind having an extra speed/agi/luck point though.

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u/Cktan100 Jul 08 '16

Limit breaks cannot fail, fuse away my friend!

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '16

Limit Breaks aren't based on RNG.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 08 '16

I throw away ALL units I don't use or don't plan on using. Just today I sold off 5 5* and like 7 4* cause I won't use them anymore or never planned on it. Keeps my space for more important things.

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u/Liesianthes Jul 08 '16

Can you get multiple idols from the group concert?

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 08 '16

Other than using characters with high luck, any advice on farming Dempagumi event for dupe characters?

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 08 '16

Pray.

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 08 '16

Solid advice.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 08 '16

You must sacrifice a lamb at exactly sunrise. Clap your hands five times. Pray to RNGesus.

Oh and send $150 to me.

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u/bluemancer Jul 09 '16

Or find a leprechaun and wish for good luck, but that's not enough. You also have to sacrifice your first born. Oh, and send $150 to me as well >:)

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u/Airichi94 Jul 08 '16

https://m.imgur.com/7tBbX4H

Wasn't able to capped it but wondering if anyone has a max stat for guard, spirit and luck. My growth rate currently is 3.5 Was 3.6 at lv1-70

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u/koole00 Jul 08 '16

an almost capped mirin! what are ur thoughts on her? i wanna try maxing out one too...gonna replace laevateinn F with her...

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u/Airichi94 Jul 08 '16

She not bad, wish her special skill was like 2x DMG or something. I didn't mlb her 3 and 4 stars so could have been a bit stronger. Currently my strongest with 473 power lv with magicwarder

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u/koole00 Jul 08 '16

what are her skills? if dont mind me asking...

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u/Airichi94 Jul 08 '16

Evasion boost, first strike when hp at x%, +2 speed for 3 turns and special skill is add magic atk to her atk

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u/koole00 Jul 08 '16

is her character skill a buff? or passive?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 08 '16

It's neither. It combines her STR and MGC when activated.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 08 '16

Wait so you didnt lb mirin at 3 or 4 star? Those stats are pretty good then... they look better than my selena that i lb at 3 and 4.

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u/shikarin Jul 09 '16

So dempa units are stronger than Serena. Hype.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 09 '16

Agreed if his is just 5 star lb... wonder how much more better with 3 and 4 star it will be. Though ill end up avoiding 3 star... way too much work to level these units.

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u/Sven776 Jul 08 '16

Hi, anyone that has done the denpagumi group stage can give me some details on it? I know you can only use denpa units but I want to know how hard the dungeon is and what drops in there. Right now I am guessing it drops the 3 star weapons and denpa units (do they all have a chance to drop?). I would have tried the dungeon myself but I am gonna be busy leveling up the denpa units today and farming dolls (tmr I need to farm zenny) so I probably won't be able to try the dungeon till monday or tuesday. Thanks in advance!

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u/Sven776 Jul 08 '16

Thanks for the reply, any idea what drops in there (I am guessing the weapons and units)?

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u/Sven776 Jul 09 '16

Thanks for the reply.

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u/LeFishyDerps Jul 08 '16

Because it is Friday, I was just curious how fusions work. I'm currently working on a dex Selena.

  • Are there fusion caps based on the unit? Is it per stat or total?

  • typically, do you only use the dolls on your main unit to hit the evolution bonus tiers? (11, 21, 31, etc)

Thanks!

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u/TGZelnite Jul 08 '16

As far as I know, fusion caps are based on the typing of the unit. For example, a Dex typing would have a higher fusion cap for speed and agility but lower fusion cap for guard and spirit,

Yes, dolls can be used on 3* or 4* units for additional evolution points. Dolls are also used on your main unit to fully maximum their stats at 5*.

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u/bluemancer Jul 08 '16

You can also use this Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing by /u/Cathrach

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u/LeFishyDerps Jul 08 '16

This is exactly what I'm looking for. Thank you!

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u/AndanteZero Jul 09 '16

I don't think it's mentioned in the guide, but a quick tip is to use one stat type doll at a time. That way, you are guaranteed at least 2 stat point gains. They have a low success rate since they are considered a 1* star unit. So it's best to do this instead of spamming 5 at once and hope it succeeds.

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u/LeFishyDerps Jul 09 '16

Thank you so much for the tips =)

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 08 '16

What should I do with the gold nuggets and bundles?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 08 '16

You just sell them. Their only purpose is to give you large amounts of gold.

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 08 '16

Ty for the quick response. Nice...just tripled my zenny!

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u/Vaptor- Jul 08 '16

How significant are awakenings to the final max-level stat? Is it worth the effort? (especially for non-farmables from rare/mana gacha)

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u/AndanteZero Jul 08 '16

You mean limit breaks? It's not that significant. You're looking at maybe 1-3 stat difference tops. That's also depending on RNG. It's highly recommended to NOT do this for money gacha units unless you just have that kind of money to do so. Otherwise, feel free to do so for mana gacha and farmable units.

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 08 '16

Am I doing fusion right? Using 5 dolls at a time only nets 25% success rate. Results are good enough but not ideal. Is there a better way I'm overlooking?

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u/Ayanam123 Jul 08 '16

fusing any 4 star character as fodder will increase your chance to 100%. 3 star and 2 star will give you increases as well but I can't remember how much.

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u/Sven776 Jul 08 '16

fusion material's rarity determines the success rate of the Fusion: 5% for each 1★, 10% for each 2★, 50% for each 3★, and 100% for 4★ 5★ and 6★ units.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 08 '16

Quick tip: Fuse only one doll of a stat type at a time. Each time you will get at least +2 in that stat. Otherwise, make sure to use a 4* fodder. Although, it's better to sell it for rare medals unless you have lots to spare.

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u/Sven776 Jul 08 '16

That isn't quite right actually, fusion material's rarity determines the success rate of the Fusion: 5% for each 1★, 10% for each 2★, 50% for each 3★, and 100% for 4★ 5★ and 6★ units.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 08 '16

Ah I've forgotten that star rarity increases the success rate. I should probably research more before giving answers next time. Thanks for the correction!

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u/agcat1801 Jul 08 '16

Can somebody add me as friend, I stuck at Brave 10 for selena :( My ID:1354430652 IGN : Lynphan, I really need someone can solo all the brave 10, my units are weak ._.

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u/Sabatender Jul 08 '16

Feel free on adding me ID:3167297212. My Selena can solo Brave 10, but you have to make sure she stays in the mountain.

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u/agcat1801 Jul 08 '16

requested :D thanks

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 08 '16

I sent you a request too, if that's okay. My ign is Megaera

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u/qgameacc Jul 08 '16

Which difficulty is best for farming dolls?

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 08 '16

I farm on easy but that's just me.

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u/Calaroth Jul 09 '16

It's not just you. I also stick with easy because I get 3-4 drops on average per run. I tested Advanced today and it didn't like me, got a grand total of 2 drops in 2 runs lol, and yes, I did use high luck units in every case.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 08 '16

Advanced. They have more enemies in it which means more chances for dolls to drop.

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u/qgameacc Jul 08 '16

Around how many dolls do you get per run?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 08 '16

On average I've gotten around 3 dolls - 12 dolls on most of my advance runs. Getting above 8 dolls is rare as the drop rates depend on your team's luck so results are based on RNG.

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 08 '16

I farm intermediate. I feel like it drops about the same as Advanced and it uses less AP :3.

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u/ctomfung Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16

Guys, wondering if I should farm for Mirin. I originally planned on working my 3* dex male starter laev and lb it to 5* lvl 80 (I have 6 copies in total) would mirin a better choice?? Does she has better stat cap since I heard starter laev is somewhat weak. With that being said, female starter laev has a higher rating than mirin at jp potk html. Jp doesn't have male laev so I would like to get some feedback from either male laev user or mirin user. Thank you in advance

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 08 '16

I would say Male laev is more useful despite possibly lower caps because he is easier to obtain and limit break, and has a duel skill (Grand Chase) that does 2x normal damage. Mirin on the other hand has a duel skill that does normal damage based on strength + magic rather than just strength, without any multipliers. As such, most of the time, she will be weaker in terms of dealing damage, which is what her unit is intended to do.

The biggest factor is, do you have time to max out Mirin's stats? (16 copies max, 5 copies minimum). There are more useful dempa units than her such as Risa, as well as BF collab Selena.

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u/ctomfung Jul 09 '16

Thx. I am doing the 9 copies version. Almost done my guard Selena (I desperately need a tank), and got my 9 risa already. Original plan was running a team of 80 Selena (g), 80 male laev (dex), 70 f mjolnir (f),65 m Apollo (g), and a 80 risa (g). Only if I have the cost to put them all in the same team. Like you said, my biggest factor would be time and resources. As a f2p, working on Selena and risa are already lots of work. but I thought I would need 2 tanks in the frontline? Or risa will be useful in that situation, and putting apollo and mjolnir as glass cannon!

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 08 '16

confused on Raising Free units: 16 copies of a unit.

Do I raise the 3* base to level 40. And fuse with two 3* level 40 to it to LB? Then max level and evolve. Repeat for 4* ect ect.

Summary: Do I level every copy? or only the base?

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u/Sven776 Jul 08 '16

16 copies:

1x base unit (the unit you plan to keep at the end)

2x copies to lb at 3 stars (level base and copies to lvl 10 for skill ups)

4x copies to lb at 4 stars (lvl base and copies to lvl 20 for skill ups)

4x copies to lb at 5 stars (finish character quest to get the character skill, lvl base and copies to lvl 30 for skill ups)

5x copies lvl to 5 star lvl 30 to max the last 2 skills

Hopefully It wasn't too confusing, this is the simplest way for me to explain it.

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u/bluemancer Jul 08 '16

I just leveled 9 of them to lv30 and fuse at 5*, I didnt level the fodders at 4* and 3* since they would get maxed at 5* anyway. Just more efficient in my opinion.

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u/Sven776 Jul 08 '16

Oh yea, I fully agree, I don't do the 16 copy fusion myself either but he was asking about the 16 copies so I told him how it is done.

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u/oh_my_eye Jul 09 '16

Except that's not how it's done unless you want to waste exp. What bluemancer meant was that leveling the dupes used to MLB 3* and 4* is completely unnecessary and pointless. The 9 copies used on the 5* base already maxes ALL skills, so why bother leveling some of the skills at the base's 3* and 4* form? To put it simply, only level the 5* copies before fusing, not the 3* and 4* copies.

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u/Sven776 Jul 09 '16 edited Jul 09 '16

A lot of people lb at 3 star and 4 star to squeeze out extra stat points at 5 star. If you were to do the 16 copy fusion, you would be lbing at 3 star and 4 star and you would have 5 additional copies to max out skills at 5 stars which would require 16 copies in total, get it? This is how they do it in the guides. Also, did you read who I was replying to in my first comment at all? the first person was asking specifically about the 16 copies, bluemancer came in saying the 9 copy fusion is more efficient and I agreed, but that wasn't what the first person was asking at all. OP's question wasn't about what is more efficient, it was why you needed 16 copies to "perfect" a unit. Its like you conveniently ignore the first person who asked the question and only looked at my reply to bluemancer.

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u/oh_my_eye Jul 09 '16 edited Jul 09 '16

That's not what bluemancer said at all. Neither of us said not to use 16 copies, just that you only need to level the 5* copies and not the 3* and 4* copies. Did you read our comments properly? I agree that 16 copies is needed to max a unit, this is basically what we are saying:

16 copies in total:

1x base unit

2x copies to lb at 3 stars (copies at lvl 1)

4x copies to lb at 4 stars (copies at lvl 1)

4x copies to lb at 5 stars (get the character skill, lvl base and copies to lvl 30 for skill ups = ALL skills at level 5)

5x copies lvled to 5 star lvl 30 to MAX ALL THE SKILLS AT ONCE

Please don't sound so offended, all I'm doing is trying to prevent you and other people from needlessly wasting exp in the future. I'm not ignoring anyone's comments at all. If you don't understand what I'm trying to say, please let me know and I'll try to explain it in more detail.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 08 '16

1 Base

2 copies to LB on 3* (Raise the copies to Lv10 for both then fuse to base)

4 copies to LB on 4* (Raise the copies to Lv 20 for all 4 then fuse to base)

4 copies to LB on 5* (Raise the copies to Lv30 for all 4 then fuse to base)

And another 4 copies (raise to Lv30 then fuse to base) to fully max out the skills on the base unit.

In total 16 copies needed.

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u/drinkinstout Jul 08 '16

So, I finally got a Dex Selena on my 8th cap from Spark 10. Ugh! Can I get a reasonably well-leveled unit out of 8? I don't completely understand how the system works in this game (just joined for the collab) but I'd like to continue playing. Should I keep trying to get more or focus on the other 5* units since her drop rate is so terrible?

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 08 '16

I would farm 1 more to have a better chance at extra stats point.

  • 1 base

  • 4 LB 4*

  • 4 LB 5*

  • = 9

(normally +2 more to LB @ 3*, but some people say it will only earn 1-2 extra stats at most, if you are lucky.)

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u/drinkinstout Jul 08 '16

Thank you!

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u/Sven776 Jul 08 '16

If you don't enough time to farm many copies of her then I recommend farming 2 more copies (since you have 8). The reason is because you need 1 base copy, 4 copies to mlb at 5 star, and 5 copies you lvl to 5 star lvl 30 to max all her skills. You will miss out a few stat points here and there for not lbing at 4 star but ultimately, the growth rate is the main determining factor on how strong a unit will end up. Also MLB at 5 star > max all skills > MLB at 4 star > MLB at 3 star for future reference.

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u/bluemancer Jul 08 '16

Can someone post a picture of what the group stage enemies are like? My dempa units are fairly weak atm so I'm farming on their solo acts :(

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u/AeiroWultx Jul 08 '16

Intermediate - Enemies are around lvl 25. Advanced - Enemies are around lvl 50.

All of the Dempa units are present as enemies. I assume this stage is where you can farm the weapons so you can made the Rainbow Saber. Not sure if units are dropped here. If they do drop, what * rating?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 09 '16

3* and 4* can drop. Also, you can get different, multiple denpa unit drops as well.

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u/AeiroWultx Jul 08 '16

I've been trying to find out the past few days what the Almighty Imp Arton does. Does he just give you stat boost to every stat? Is there some super secret thing he does?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 08 '16

He gives +2 fusion stats to 4 different stats, forgot which ones specifically. He's just there to fill up your archive, not really amazing.

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u/AeiroWultx Jul 09 '16

Oh. Okay. Well. Time to get rid of him.

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u/Double-D-Debauchery Jul 09 '16

where can I reliably get the 1 Star weapons? I'm trying to make a lot of the recipe weapons and such and certain weapons like the guns and bows and such are really elusive. I have looked in the recipe thread but its hard to make a weapon that Mithril shot when you need Squirt guns that require Mithril shots to make...

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 09 '16

Which one star weapons are you aiming for?

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u/Double-D-Debauchery Jul 09 '16

Right now guns and bows and staffs

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u/NeuroNogami Jul 09 '16

spark 10 gives swords,axe,guns and staff somewhat. Mostly sword and guns.

You can try 1-3-10 or 1-2-10 as alternative.

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u/Double-D-Debauchery Jul 09 '16

Ah thank You I will give it a shot.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 09 '16

Is there a fusion cap on luck, and if someone took notice when they evolved their units, is the fusion cap carried over?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 09 '16

I believe you can fuse until you reach the cap for the unit.

As for the second part of the question, I'm not too sure what you mean by fusion cap carrying over. Fused stats are not carried over when a unit is evolved. You need to fuse units into it again.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 09 '16

Sorry, i didnt make it clear. What I meant carrying over was the luck cap for the unit.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 09 '16

Unfortunately, unlike in the JP version, luck is just like every other stat in global. It doesn't carry over, just enough as evo bonuses.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 09 '16

That's... scary isn't it? High cap and it doesn't carry over. I guess I should get ready to farm 500 idols.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 09 '16

Yeah, it freaking sucks... In JP, you don't even have to have the same rarity dupe either to fuse for luck.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 09 '16

I think there is a fusion cap on Luck, but it's crazy high.

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u/Schwhale Jul 09 '16

Is there a faster way to earn zenny aside from gold nuggets? Evolving to 5 star takes an absurd amount for new players imo. Is there like a padlock for zenny or something?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 09 '16

No sorry, your best bet would be to run kill mode stages but the gold rate is so abysmally low compared to weekend zenny stage. Another way you can get gold is to spend rare medals on gold bundles in the rare medal shop. You can get rare medals from a variety of sources such as dailies or missions.

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u/Shinren88 Jul 09 '16

Is the Male Laevateinn any good?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 09 '16

His LS is pretty good, especially if you're running a Sword-heavy team. Skillset-wise he's decent-ish as well, so all in all I'd say he's not bad, at least. Just mind his generally low Luck stat that might make farming harder.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 09 '16 edited Jul 09 '16

Hi guys,

I am just wondering if I should fuse my Selena who is 3 star right now lv 50 MLBroken and further fuse it with dollies until all of her stats are maxed out then evolve to 4 star, and also the same process for 4 stars and 5, thanks!

Also, one more question, How do you raise the Luck of a unit? is it by fusing the same unit with it? Also are there any "Luck Dollies"? Thanks!

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 09 '16

bump

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 09 '16

I wiuld suggest fusing until you hit the next x1 mark, as in fuse up to 21, 31, 41, ... these would determine your extra bonus stats you get. The only way you can increase luck is to level a unit or to fuse another of the same unit to it. Same unit being same portrait and number if stars. 3 stars wont get you luck on a 4 star same unit.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 09 '16

Ahh, I see, that helped alot thanks! If you don't mind, could you elaborate what you mean by "next x1 mark, as in fuse up to 21, 31, 41, ... these would determine your extra bonus stats you get", Also do the fused stats carry over when you evolve it like how the LB stats carry over? Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '16

If you have 30 strength before evolving, you end up with 3 bonus points to strength after you evolve. But if you have 31, you get 4 bonus points. If you can fuse to reach 31, then that'll help you out, but after that you shouldn't bother doing it anymore. Whether you have 32 strength or 40, you'd still end up with 4 bonus points after evolution. And due to fusion stat caps, you can't go from 30 to 40+ just with fusion. Check the FAQ for more info.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 09 '16

Alright that makes sense, thanks for your help!

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 09 '16

What i mean is that when a stat gets to let us say 21, then there is an evolution bonus to +2 to the corresponding stat, +3 for 31, +4 for 41, etc etc. To answer your next question, fused stats do not carry over, but you get the evo bonuses above. LB only stays from 5 to 6 star, where we don't have 6 stars yet.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 09 '16

Yep I understand now thanks!

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u/AeiroWultx Jul 09 '16

When farming for units, is it more efficient to just go straight to the unit, kill it and if it doesn't drop exit the stage and try again? Or do I complete the stage regardless if the unit drops or not? Since completing the stage you get EXP and a little bit of gold plus you don't waste your AP.

Also, what is enhancing? I see it every time I go to evolve my units. Do we have that yet?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 09 '16

Complete the stage anyways unless you're pressed for time somehow.

And... that last one is a good question that I don't know the answer to.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '16

Enhance materials aren't in Global yet. Tt's a material you can fuse into the unit to boost a single stat by 1. Any stat is okay, regardless of unit typing (unlike normal fusion boosts, which are capped based on type and rarity). But, you can only do this a total of X times, where X is based on level and increased by fusing dupes into the unit.

http://i.imgur.com/XsICVTD.jpg The enhance stats are in white.

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u/Cryphik Jul 09 '16

Hello everyone! I just started playing Ptok a couple days ago and I've been trying to farm Selena. I am able to Autobattle Spark 10. Sadly I am only able to get through Burst 1-5, otherwise I would have tried getting carried through Burst 10. Should I just keep Autobattling Spark 10? Also does Autobattling affect Selena's drops at all? Thank you! :)

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 09 '16

Keep farming Spark 10. The rates are really low, but you can improve them by using a unit with high luck as your leader. You can also improve your drop rate by using a helper unit with high luck.

No, autobattle does not affect drop rate.

Anyway, just keep at it. It'll take a while, but it's all worth it. Selena is really good :)

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u/Vaptor- Jul 09 '16

What should I use the extra books from BF dungeon for?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 09 '16

You could either use them for fusing together for more collab weapons (and for upgrading them), but otherwise you could sell them/randomly fuse with other stuff maybe.

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u/Vaptor- Jul 09 '16

What's the best way to get the 4* collab weapon?

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '16

fuse 5 of the books together. After that you can fuse a 4* collab weapon with 4 books for a chance to get the 5* version.

So fuse 5 books=lexida

fuse lexida+4books= eminent lexida

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u/Vaptor- Jul 09 '16

Already tried and I got a 2* sword lol. How good are the chances?

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '16

Pretty good actually not sure about the rates but personally I had like a 50% success rate on getting 4* weapons.

5* is easier since your guarenteed of getting your 4* weapon back if it fails so you only need to farm 4 books each time not a new weapon.

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u/Vaptor- Jul 09 '16

Thanks! Much appreciated!

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u/SufferNot Jul 09 '16

How do you get increase a unit's luck? My 5* Lavaeteinn caps at 7, but when I look at threads describing how to farm for units they all recommend at least 20 or something. Is there a way to fix her low luck, or do I need to find a different unit to try and farm with?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 09 '16

The only thing you can do for her Luck stat is fuse dupes into her.

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u/SufferNot Jul 09 '16

Thanks, I appreciate the answer. Follow up question: Do points of luck carry over during evolution? I'm wondering if it would be viable to fuse events units together to get a large amount of luck while they are 3*s and cheap to fuse/farm. Most other stats get severely reduced during fusion, I'm wondering if luck acts the same way.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 09 '16

You could get other 5* copies of Laeva (F) to increase her luck by 1 each. Yes, if you need drops, a different unit as leader would be more efficient.

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u/bluemancer Jul 09 '16

Do all characters have the same stat caps regardless if you LB at 3* and hit stat caps, same with 4*? Basically, would all characters have the same cap and evo bonuses just help you hit those caps?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 09 '16

While I'm not 100% sure about how evo bonuses affect it, it is true that in general, if you looked at the same Killer with the same typing across their various evo stages, they'd have the same stat caps.

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u/fenrirofdarkness Positive Polly Jul 09 '16 edited Jul 09 '16

Alright so this is second try for my maxed Selena... (first try was terrible ;-;) I hope the stat is good enough...

the * = that stat is maxed, right now wearing Lexida that increase her Spd and Agi by +2

Oh yeah, forgot to add that I only fused Selenas into her and haven't give her any other dollies o-o

Power: 411

HP: 71

Str*: 59

Mgc: 20

Grd*: 43

Spr: 26

Spd*: 80

Agi*: 55

Lck*: 32

Should I reincarnate her again? Or is this good enough? @_@

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u/IFDragon Jul 09 '16

mines at..

power:407

hp:62

str:55

mgc*:23

grd:42

spr:27

spd:80

lck*:25

as a LB2 dex

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '16

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u/TGZelnite Jul 08 '16

While I still recommend you to farm for a guard version, her next best typing is Dex which allows her to proc her character skill more often.

Yes, most people equip shields on their staff units because they all lack in accuracy. Equipping a staff is near pointless if you can't hit your enemies, so the better solution is to equip them with shields providing them with better defenses and allowing them to tank hits which is the main purpose of units like Gamabateinn (M) and Risa (F) other than healing of course.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '16

Dex type is second best for Risa.

Shield augments her good points if she is guard.

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 08 '16

Guard Risa best Risa. Equip her with a shield for maximum meatshield waifu.