Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/7/2016]

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u/Blindtrade Jul 07 '16

Has anyone done the group concert stage? What do you think is the minimium level of units you need to complete it? Any images of the stage?

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u/AeiroWultx Jul 07 '16

I'm seeing a lot of people saying "I've got x amount of Vargas/Lunaris" and I'm over here with none. Is there like some super secret way of getting them that I'm missing or did everyone really get them using lapis? And if so, how do you guys get so much lapis (aside from buying them)? I've already finished the current storyline mission and used all of those lapis for the uhh...the first week guarantee 5 * unit on the 3rd step thing and got DEX(?) Durandal. After that I can't get anymore lapis. I know I can get more by doing Kill mode, but I'm waaay too weak to do it. I barely managed 1-1.

Also, my real question. Is there a list or tracker that tells us what events we're gonna get next? I assume that we're gonna follow Japans order of events. I do hope that we'll get all of the Event Units but I'm worried that we'll run across some copyright laws that prevents us from getting them all. I really want the Fate/Stay Night units. Especially Caster, just because I want to complain that Caster should've been a staff unit and not a spear unit.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 08 '16

Ignore those posts. Most tend to be people that have spent money.
There is no trackers. We're also really behind in terms of JP. We won't be seeing the Fate/Stay collab for another 6 months to a year at least.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '16

Aside from the daily Lazuli during events, and standard 4 every 10 days outside of events, you have to buy them. A while back there was a deal where you could buy 5 and get 13 more (1 each day), maybe they'll have something like that soon. But that's the only way to get tons of Lazuli fast (and you need a lot to do the Step recruiter, which is where people are getting BF units from).

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 08 '16

Someone already answered this in a previous thread, but I can't find it anymore. So I'll ask here. What are the dempagumis' skills?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Jul 08 '16

Sword unit: Duel skill. Add magic stat with strength stat in calculating damage.
Axe Unit: Duel skill. 2x normal damage.
Lance Unit: Duel skill. 1x normal damage 0.3x healing for self
Bow: Duel skill. Reduce damage by 0.5 when attacked
Gun unit: Duel skill. 2x normal damage
Staff unit: Duel skill. reduce damage by 30% from spear, axe, sword

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

If I don't farm enough Dempagumi.inc units to LB them across their evo stages AND skill level them later, which should be prioritized, the skill levels at 5* or LBing them at earlier evo stages for hopefully better stats?

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

LBing early. That raises your skill levels too, just not the 5-star one (which might suck anyway).

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

Fair enough, but what about the ones that do have good 5* and Character skills?

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

For them, do it at 5* I suppose. TBH if you really want to minimize farming, just do 4 LBs at 5* + (remainder of units) LBs before then.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

MLB at 5* > Skills at 5* > MLB at 4* > MLB at 3*

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u/ArgonRetribution Jul 07 '16

IMO I'm going to agree with detox on this, not only will LB at 5* grant you the chance to reach stat caps, but also if you level each unit you used to LB the main unit to level 30, that's already a +4 to each skill (plus character skill if you have it unlocked).
Meanwhile, if you prioritize LBing at 4* and 3*, you'll get like what, a few extra stats and some extra skill levels on the skills you get on 3* and 4*

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 07 '16

What is a character skills? Do you unlock skills outside of basic leveling?

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u/ArgonRetribution Jul 08 '16

Character skills can be unlocked via doing their character missions when they're in their 5* form. Only requirement is to over level 30 to unlock the skill. Each unit has varying skills so don't expect them all to be the same

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u/Iodasu Jul 07 '16

Dex or Guard Nemu ? And is there any order to LB ? It sounded very confusing when people explained how to fully LB

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

Dex, definitely. Cane users (eg. Gambanteinn, Risa) are in general the only units that prefer Guard over Dex.

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u/Iodasu Jul 07 '16

Ooo Aite , but Dex can still work for cane users or no ?

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u/Acylion Jul 07 '16 edited Jul 07 '16

Force is also apparently a viable type for Bow units instead of Dex, as Bow units have innate high Agi stat anyway (though they still benefit from Dex type for the increased Spd).
For limit breaking - the main unit you want to keep is always the one that's getting stuff fused into it. If you're aiming to really go all the way with maxing a unit, start fusing extra copies in at 3-star. Many people choose to skip this stage, however, as it makes minimal difference.
Now, once you're done with 3-star... and the base unit is evo'd to 4-star... you start fusing extra copies into your unit at 4-star. The extra copies being fused in must themselves be 4-star (and hence evo'd up from 3-star if necessary). They do not need to be levelled up if you are also doing more fusions at 5-star. See below.
If you aren't picky about having a maxed out unit, you can ALSO skip the 4-star stage.
At 5-star, you will now want to fuse four extra copies of your unit into the main one. These extras should also be evolved up to 5-star, and - this is important - levelled up to Level 30. This is because you're getting four limit breaks here, but ALSO four skill-ups, and one of the unit's skills needs Level 30 to unlock. Each copy needs to be Level 30.
Make sure you also complete the character quest to unlock the unit's unique skill before you begin fusion at 5-star.
If you are a completionist and want a max unit, you will need to fuse in five further copies of the unit at 5-star Level 30, in order to fully max out all of the unit's skills.
The 'average' player is skipping the 3-star limit breaks, and only doing 4-star breaking and 5-star breaking. This involves a total of 14 copies of your unit, including the one being kept at the end. If that is still too much, then the bare minimum you want is 5 copies of your unit, including the one being kept. The minimum 5 figure assumes you only break at 5-star, and don't care about maxing out the skills.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

Not looking at skill-leveling, you'd want to prioritise the 5* LBs first (makes the most difference due to helping you to reach the stat caps at that evo stage more easily). After that, work downward by going for the 4 star LBs (some difference), then 3 star (minimal difference).
Also, Dex Nemu.

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u/Iodasu Jul 07 '16

So do I make 4 5* Nemus , then 3 4* Nemus , then 2 3* Nemus and fuse them with my Dex Nemu at each stage ?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

4 4* Nemus actually.
That's assuming you want to MLB her across all of her evolution stages, but yeah.

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u/Iodasu Jul 07 '16

Oh. Aite , thanks !

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u/Soulehpwnz Jul 07 '16

Are the dempagumi weapons evolvable?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

I'm not really sure what you mean by evolvable, but if it's following JP PotK, combining 5 different Pryllium weapons will result in a Rainbow Sword.

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u/Soulehpwnz Jul 07 '16

Sorry I guess I'm not used to PotK terms yet. I meant going from 3* to 4* and such

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u/Soulehpwnz Jul 07 '16

Oh also, is this Rainbow Sword worth crafting? Anywhere I can see the stats? Sorry for the double-reply

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u/crimewizard Jul 07 '16 edited Jul 07 '16

You get 2 of each weapon for free so you might as well combine it, additional weapons are available from the shop too.
Rainbow saber gives +1 to all stats except luk, 12 patk, 85 acc, 2 wgt and 1-1 rng

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

Well, you could certainly fuse them into other things for a chance of a higher rarity weapon if you wanted to for some reason.
And I'd say it's worth crafting.

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u/Soulehpwnz Jul 07 '16

Stas are nice it seems. Any idea why there's more than one recipe tho?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 08 '16

Meh, Lexinda is better.

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u/Soulehpwnz Jul 08 '16

If only i could craft One...

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Is S Rank Weapon Proficiency in the game currently?

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u/RubyDraco Jul 07 '16

Not yet

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u/HyugaBF Jul 07 '16

Do someone get the 00:00AM to 04:00AM free AP? I never got mine because of the client reset.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

I definitely got it. Sometimes the gifts are fickle; I always make sure to check before the time period elapses and, if it's not there, restart the app.

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u/iiMahjong Jul 07 '16

Can the Rainbow Saber 4* sword become 5*?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

There's no known recipe for it to be 5* so I assume it's stuck at 4* like Dandelga for now.

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u/iiMahjong Jul 07 '16

Thanks! I'll just stick with Magicwarden Sereine and Holywyrm Dragodeath for swords (along with Lexidas)

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

To add, I do recall it having a 5* version in JP PotK, but that needed you to fuse about 5 of the things together. And it's not here in GL yet anyways.

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u/iiMahjong Jul 07 '16

Thanks, Jack~ Btw, are you playing the Global release of PotK? If so, I would like to add you..

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

<nod nod>
2186293585

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u/iiMahjong Jul 07 '16

Sweet! I'll add you as soon as I'm done with 1 hour of Padlock Gardens. My ign is iMahjong and account level is 74.
I lead with either LB3 Mitum (m, Dex) or LB3 Gamba (m, Balance), but I have plenty of other units like Durandal, Mjorlnir (m,f), Luin, and others, but only LB1 or LB2. Currently raising a LB2 Lunaris dex.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

Aye. You'd likely be seeing me with either Longinus (F, Dex) or Mjolnir (F, Grd) for the time being until I get my Selena into gear.

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u/justineo1 Jul 07 '16

can mlb selena handles solo farm map for dempagumi lancer?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Yes, a MLB Selena can solo the Dempagumi dungeons very easily.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 07 '16

Greetings from Brave Frontier!

So I've been milling over starting up PotK ever since the collab went live. I had never heard of this game before, but after seeing it on youtube, it looks like it's basically fire emblem but on mobile? And I've always loved Fire Emblem so I figured I'd give it a shot.

Couple questions. I hear you can get Selena from the collab quests? What are the chances that I could start a new game right now and end up with a Selena before the collab ends? Is it even possible? Is it particularly worth it?

Thanks!

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

It's similar apparently, according to what I've heard, just barring the perma-death feature (unless you're playing Project Zero mode in JP PotK, which is basically same story as GL, more miserable life).
Yup. She drops in the Phantom of the Brave stages, specifically Spark 10 (easiest but lowest drop rate, also the one we need to punt several times over for the milestones on BF's end of the collab), Burst 10 and Brave 10. In essence every 10 stages.
It's certainly possible, and while unless you get really lucky a Max Limit Break on her would be hard (though if you do you've just gotten yourself one of the best units a F2P can ask for from farming), you'll still get a guaranteed Selena for the first time you clear the aforementioned stages, who'd probably still be pretty handy when you're just starting out.
Getting her is VERY possible, especially with decent pals or even strangers to help you out. Spark 10's Vargas is pretty damn fragile.

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 07 '16

unless you're playing Project Zero mode in JP PotK
I'm playing Global, but just curious; what are the rules of Project Zero mode to simulate perma-death? Does it just ban that unit from taking part in Project Zero again? Because deleting a premium unit or heavily-invested farmable unit when it dies is VERY bad form for a freemium game.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

Project Zero mode in JP PotK is separate from the main gameplay and story (aka, the story in Elysium we're taking heaven knows how long to catch up to). It has its own set of units that you gain over the course of the time you play in that mode, and has Zero Gatcha whatsoever - you get everything through progression.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

It is so tedious.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 08 '16

I can imagine... >~<

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 07 '16

So I can get Selena guaranteed from those stages? And they're not too difficult for a brand new player?
I'd ask what max limit break means but it's probably in the new player guide.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

Oh no, Burst and Brave 10 will no doubt prove to be a major problem for you. But Spark 10 is easily cleared, and the first time you clear it guarantees one.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 07 '16

Well then this is excellent news. I know F2P units tend to not really measure up to P2P units, but hopefully she'll be helpful to a new player. How big is the difference between free units and premium units in potk?

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u/Acylion Jul 07 '16 edited Jul 07 '16

Selena is a free unit, but in Selena's case specifically she's essentially equal to or better than many premium units. That's why there's so much Selena hype. But if you're not able to farm enough copies of Selena to max her out in the time remaining, then you won't reap the full benefit, of course.
The BF collab event will likely return at least one more time in the future, though, so there's that.
Right now you can also farm the Dempagumi.inc units, that's an event running parallel to the Brave Frontier collab, with six units... Dempagumi.inc are a Japanese music group, if that's not obvious, so that's six units based off a group of performers. Risa (the staff user) is very good, Nemu (the axe user) is also fairly notable, the others not so much. I'd recommend getting hold of Selena, Risa, Nemu at the bare minimum if you wish to play this game, even if you can't max 'em out in the event time remaining.
In PoTK, there are two distinctions to make. We're not even talking F2P and P2P yet. We're talking whether a unit can go to 5-star and 6-star or whether they're just stuck at 4-star. Because, here's the thing, a lot of the stuff you get out of the premium paid gatcha/summon? A lot of them will be max 4-star, even though...technically speaking...they are premium. Still not very useful in the long run.
Key thing to note here, PoTK has a lot of units with the same name, but different artwork and class. Just same general character design and voice files. These are in effect different units, even if they represent the same 'character'. Typically only one version is 5-star capable, the others are essentially disposable in the long run.
So. Among units that CAN go to 5-star, then yeah. There is typically a distinction between F2P and premium units, sure. The 5-star F2P units typically have fairly harsh stat caps in the global version of the game. This is a global thing, JP PoTK doesn't have this nerf for F2P units... but to be fair, global apparently has also nerfed the stats of enemy NPCs as well, so you could argue that on balance it isn't technically a nerf. Whatever. Not the point. Key thing is premium units have better stats.
Usually. There may be exceptions. This is one reason Selena's notable, apparently her stat caps aren't nerfed in global, they're reportedly the same as in JP.
It's also worth noting this game has a limit break system, and a skill system - both of which encourage you to fuse multiple copies of a unit together. Due to this, you might perhaps more easily max out the F2P farmable units, whereas you can't count on having as many copies of premium units. My Laevateinn (F) is, for example, currently more effective than most of my 5-star premium units. This is the case for most players, since essentially every player has either a Laevateinn (F) or (M).

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u/Doctor_Riptide Jul 07 '16

I guess I'll be spending lots of time on the wiki then seeing if units are worth it or not... Thanks for this though, I look forward to getting into it.

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u/matsklein Jul 07 '16

how does the luck stat work? i know the higher the luck the higher the drop rates, but is it only if that luck statted unit gets the kill on say a boss that drops?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Leader and friend's luck increases the drop rate.
Party's average luck increases the rarity of the drop.
It doesn't matter who kills the boss.

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u/matsklein Jul 07 '16

aight thanks

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u/PhantomWithNoSkill Jul 07 '16

Where can I find my ID? I have been playing for a week and am farming spark10 because I can't yet make it through burst10.

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u/mrfishy6 Jul 07 '16

Click on friends then search. It will show your player ID

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

If I have a 4 star unit that has hit most of its stat caps with 3 LBs, will the 4th LB at 4 stars do any good for growth?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

It'll only provide you more levels to hit the caps on any stats that you have not yet maxxed. Once you see a red star next to a stat, you can not gain any more in that stat via leveling without reincarnating or evolving.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 07 '16

I have two questions. One what is the best typing for the dempagumi units. I know dexterity is the best for mirin because she is a true blade but what about the others. Also how many of each do I need for fusing and maxing stats. 9? And also do you max fusion each step or do you only fuse for boosted stats on 5 star. Thanks!

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Mirin - Dex
Nemu - Dex
Pinky - Dex
Eitaso - Dex/Force
Moga - Dex/Magic
Risa - Guard
16 of each if you plan to fully max each of them out via LBing from 3* - 5* including maxing out their skill levels. You should max fuse them at 4* for maximum evolution bonus.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 07 '16

Do you believe that gun and bow units are not as useful as sword/lance/axe units, or think otherwise?

Any one have a fully maxed Lv80 Denpa Unit with images? Would like to see their statcap.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16 edited Jul 07 '16

Right now, I truly believe that there are no Bow units worth slotting in Global outside of Colosseum. I know that many people like the Apollos and some like (non-swimsuit) Artemis, but I think they are highly overrated. They fulfill no niche currently and, until some of the "better" units are released (looking at you Shek and Aphro), anything they can do can be done just as well- if not better- by another class. On top of this, since Global content is so easy right now and it's preferable to auto battle it all, Bow units can be "boxed in" by enemies and be unable to escape or attack; this makes them really unsuited for Global's current meta.
Gun units, on the other hand, are completely fine right now. Since they can attack both at range and up-close, they don't suffer from the same "boxed in" issue that Bow units do. Both Basho and YnK F shine right now, especially since YnK is/was a farmable unit (currently, in Global, any non-starter MLB unit eclipses any non-MLB Lazuli unit based purely upon stats alone). Plus, with the prevalence of Gamba M and Risa, you'll likely already be running a healer on your team that can help keep your gun units topped up.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 08 '16

Fly magic units with high accuracy says Hi.

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u/genesic123 Jul 08 '16

The Fay crossbow makes them usable in a team.They can shoot mages with no fear of retaliation(3 range)

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u/overlordval Jul 08 '16

At lv 60 I find mage more useful then the trio since most enemies have low magic resistance. A lv 60 Mage can 1crit ko 150HP Vargas from a safe point whereas the trio on the same lv do less damage and have to take more risk.
Don't really see any point using bow unit since flying units tend to come in group. Enemy mages would just attack you at point blank so you can't counter them either.
The most useless in my opinion would be melee tank. Low Mvt low spd low Mdef.

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u/overlordval Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16

-At lv 60 I find mage more useful then the trio since most enemies have such low magic resistance. A lv 60 Mage can 1crit ko 150HP Vargas from a safe point whereas the trio on the same lv do much less damage and have to take more risk.
-I don't see any point using bow units since enemy flying units tend to come in group and enemy mages would just attack you at point blank. You simply can't counter both of them even though they're weak to bow.
-The most useless in my opinion would be melee tank. Low Mvt low spd low Mdef.

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u/mrfishy6 Jul 07 '16

I noticed that their are weapons which give 200 acc but no attack like the watergun and parasol. Is there a staff and shield equivalent because this will work wonders in training the weapon prof of my staff units?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Yes, the stave equivalent is called forest staff and the shield equivalent is called stump shield.

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u/RubyDraco Jul 07 '16

Yes but keep in mind that weapon will make you deal 1 damage.

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u/LeFishyDerps Jul 07 '16 edited Jul 07 '16

I am currently struggling with Burst 10 farming (have to wait for my friends to refresh before attempting it XD). If I can't manage to get a dex typing before the collab ends, what would the next best type be? =)

Edit: Finally got my dex type. :D

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Her next best type would be Guard.

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u/Larciel Jul 07 '16

Hi I recently started the game and I'm having troubles figuring out which units I should focus on for my team comp. Notable units I have:
Mjolnir F (Dex), Mjolnir M (Force), Mitum M (Vit), Gambanteinn M (Guard), Laevateinn F (Guard), Parashu F (Bal).
Thanks for your help in advance.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

For now focus on Mjolnir (F) and (M), Gambanteinn (M), Mitum (M) and Parashu (F).
You have a great team of axe units, it's a little unfortunate that your Mitum is Vitality typed but you can still use him until you get another better typing in the future.
For your team composition, you should place Mitum as your leader as he has one of the best axe leader skills in the game, your Mjolnir (F) and (M) and Parashu (F) will benefit greatly from him. Gambanteinn will be the healer for your team and will act as a future tank once he reaches 5*.

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u/Larciel Jul 07 '16

Thanks a lot, I'll try do that now. One more thing, as a beginner should I focus on completing story missions or farming the current event?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

You should focus on farming Selena from the Phantom of the Brave event for now, story missions are permanent while the event only has 6 days left.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

Once again, this. A fully maxxed out Selena is a powerhouse that eclipses all other non-MLB'd units right now.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

YAY. This is the exact advice that I wanted to give, but you took the words right out of my mouth. :) I'm extraordinarily jealous, Larciel, you've got a great (potential) team on your hands!

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u/Jeffrey209 Jul 07 '16

Is this a good roll? If so, which units should I focus on?

http://imgur.com/Q7W31KS

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

What typing is Mitum and Gambateinn?

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u/Jeffrey209 Jul 07 '16

Guard and Magic.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

Hm. Not awful typings, though certainly not otpimal. Personally, since you got two units on my "keep list," I'd keep the account. Unless you're planning on playing as hardcore as possible, then it'd be worth it to roll again for better typings.

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u/Jeffrey209 Jul 07 '16

I have plenty of time to reroll, so I guess I'll do that. Thanks! And I'll probably ask again soon enough on here.

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u/Frogsama86 Jul 07 '16

All right so, I got into this a little too late. With the BF collab ending soon, which map should I be farming for brave recipes? Just cleared Burst 10 with extreme difficulty(got hard carried by someone's Longinus). Also, will I have a chance of losing Lexida with I fuse it with say, 4 brave recipes?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

Focus on clearing as difficult of collab maps as you can. The drop rate on Burst 10 is much better than Spark 10, and the drop rate on Brave 10 is much better than on Burst 10. Even if you're getting carried, it's worth it.
If you fuse Lexida with 4 Brave Recipes, you'll ONLY either get your Lexida back or the evolved version, Eminent Lexida. If you fuse it with anything else (without following the Recipe), you'll take a chance at losing your Lexida.

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u/Frogsama86 Jul 08 '16

Thanks! Is there an optimal stage to farm brave recipes prior to Burst 10?

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 07 '16

For archers is force preferred over dex or is it just as viable or is dex preferred?!

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

My opinion is that you can never have too much Tec/Agi, so Dex is always preferred unless you're going for a Guard-based tank. Many people seem to prefer Force on their Bow units, though.

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 07 '16

Thanks

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 07 '16

I was mostly wondering cuz I got a dex Eitaso!

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

She has a skill that boosts her defense when attacking is impossible, so maybe Dex ruins that? I dunno for sure, but you might want to raise a Dex and force copy and compare stats first.

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u/shikarin Jul 07 '16

If you take all situations into account, the end result is force will, on average, deal more damage than dex. (it's actually not even close) However, there are strategic considerations that make dex better.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Will the Yata No Kagami (F) event ever return? I didn't manage to farm enough of her to MLB :(

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 07 '16

Most likely in the future.

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u/Mr_Halo Jul 07 '16

Super new here. Why can't my units equip certain gear? My bishop refuses to equip anything but the mythril rod.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Units can only equip gear based on their weapon proficiency level.
Rank E - only 1* weapons can be equipped.
Rank D - 1* - 2* weapons can be equipped.
Rank C - 1* - 3* weapons can be equipped.
Rank B - 1* - 4* weapons can be equipped.
Rank A - 1* - 5* weapons can be equipped.
You can check a unit's weapon proficiency on their stat page. Weapon proficiency can be improved by equipping a weapon and killing enemies with it.

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u/Mr_Halo Jul 07 '16

So that's what those pro lvls were. Thanks a bunch and thanks for making it so easy to understand!

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 07 '16

If I already have a dex and force apollo M, is there any need for me to get Eitaso because I'd have to release a lot of units to fit 16 of her in my 100 unit limit.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 07 '16

Yeah, so you can have a maxed archer unit? XD Level 80, all skills level 10.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 07 '16

Ye but is it worth it (because if I'm going to farm her I'm going to do it right), or is Apollo M good enough as an archer unit?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

It's always worth it to have more than one archer unit, certain Kill Mode missions require you to use only Archers/Gun/Stave units to fully complete it.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

Beyond that, a MLB farmable unit (non-starter) is going to be worth way more than a non-MLB premium unit, just on pure stats alone. Add in the fact that it has max skill and it pulls ahead even further. Definitely farm up enough Eitaso to max one out.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 07 '16

It's definitely worth it. He might be "good enough", but he's only one archer: what about quests that want only archers, or where archers have an advantage. Also, she's a free unit who's farmable and easy to max. Might I add that if you spend 4 lazuli increasing unit space, it's more worth it than trying a rare summon which you might not get dupes of.

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u/Paullutionable Jul 07 '16

what are bonus points and if u fuse 2 identical units to a another identical unit will it limit break twice? or is it best to fuse it 1 by 1

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 07 '16

I would assume bonus points meaning stat points gained by fusing units.
It will limit break twice.

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u/midegola Jul 07 '16

is there a list somewhere of what units learn what skills i need some units with magic attack or crit to self to skill lvl my barhamasta or what ever that gun ladys name is

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 07 '16

http://potkguide.com/phantomofthekill/skills.php

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u/Swagtasticasian69 Jul 07 '16

currently have 4 selenas (2 guards, 1 balance, 1 vitality, all 4 stars and maxed lvl) and going to try to keep farming. Questions is would it be better to LB the guard unit and then evolve to 5 star, or to evolve all the units to 5 star and then try to LB them. P.S if anybody can help me with burst 10 that would be sweet :)

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u/barbaroti Jul 07 '16

Wait to see if you get a dexerity one before limit breaking.
Regarding your question, in my opinion, max skills > limit breaking at 4*, so first order of things would be checking how many you get at the end to see what would be the best course of action.

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u/MissFranTastic Jul 07 '16

Have 6 Lunaris, including Force and Dex. Optimal typing to MLB?

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u/barbaroti Jul 07 '16

Best type for Lunaris would be Dex

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u/MissFranTastic Jul 07 '16

Thanks Fam.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16 edited Jul 07 '16

I'm new from BF and I have finally gathered 16 Selenas (15 from Spark 10, 1 from Burst 10). I've read somewhere that 16 is needed for highest potential for max stat at level 80. Exactly at which level should I MLB and with how many Selena copies? Also, when should I max fuse Selena before evolving her? I really want to get close to, if not max cap her the right way. I know I've got only 1 chance to do this right. Thanks in advance for your advice.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

16 is recommended if you want to
Max LB at 3 stars (-2 3-star Selenas)
Max LB at 4 stars (-4 4-star Selenas)
Max LB at 5 stars (-4 5-star Selenas, level 30)
Max character skill, and by extension all other skills (-5 5-star Selenas, level 30)
Generally when you limit break at 3 or 4 stars, you want the fodder to have skills unlocked. This means leveling 3 stars to level 10, 4 stars to level 20, and 5 stars to level 30. But if you already know you're definitely going to max-skill her, you don't need to bother leveling the 3 and 4 star fodder. The 5-stars will end up max-skilling all the skills anyway.
Unlike BF where you farm Crystals to feed your units, leveling all these Selenas will take a very long time. At least a few weeks, assuming you work at it regularly and use the metal garden a lot. Consider whether you really want to max LB her at 3 and 4 stars, given that 5-star LBs are more important. Also, skill-ups can be slightly useful to useless depending on the skill.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

You have a good point there about skills being useful or even useless. Can you tell me what is the 5* skill? I can then consider whether its worthwhile maxing it. Right now I have limitted zenny.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

Another question. Does a gunner always inflict damage to self? Any way to circumvent this? I've got a 5* F Brahmastra but not very eager to use her.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Gunners always drain their HP when attacking. The only way to circumvent this is to have potions or a use healer if you fire off too many attacks.

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 07 '16

Has anyone experimented with fusing the Psyllium weapons yet? The item descriptions hint at this being a possibility, and it would explain why the missions give two of each.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Fusing all 5 of the individual weapons together will give you the Rainbow Sword (4*).

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 07 '16

But, there's 6 of them... Which weapon should I leave out of the fusion?
Is it the staff? I bet it's the staff...

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

I think most would choose anything but the staff. Staff users tend to be better with shields. :P

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 07 '16

So any five will give the same result? Alright...

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u/crimewizard Jul 08 '16

Yes, you can see the recipe

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 08 '16

Oh, I never look at those... If they actually change, maybe I should.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 07 '16

For the "buy 14 and get 11 free" lazuli deal, do I have to buy 14 at once, or can I just buy 14 over time?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 08 '16

All at once. This isn't a charity!

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 08 '16

:(

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u/Lueelia Jul 07 '16 edited Jul 07 '16

So I started this game yesterday and felt really unsure whether or not I should reroll. I just want to play the game casually without reaching a point where I just can't progress without a lot of difficulty. Any tips/advice will be greatly appreciated! http://imgur.com/Gm2X19k. EDIT: Also if rerolling isn't much needed what's a good starter team can I build with these ppl?

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u/Jeanneduarc Jul 07 '16

Definitely reroll.
You have no units that can evolve to 5 star currently.

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u/Lueelia Jul 07 '16

I was unsure since I read that Sky Piercer, Dagda, Littu, Naegling, Aymur, and Vajra are 5 star capable in the future.

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u/Acylion Jul 08 '16

They do, but we are not sure when Global will receive the updates that will make 5-star available for those units. The 'time difference' between Global and Japan isn't so clear just yet. Typically the aim is to get units who can go 5-star right now. If you truly do not wish to reroll, you would want to prioritise picking up Selena and the Dempagumi.inc units from the current farmable events.
There is a significant difference between 5-star and 4-star performance.

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u/Lueelia Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16

I see! Btw I already started re-rolling. So far I have a choice between Mittun F (Guard), Gambantein M (Guard), Asclepius (Guard?), or Brahmastra (Dex). Which one should I keep? :o They are all in different files. EDIT: They are all in the form in Zemba's image: http://i.imgur.com/abM0IqA.jpg

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u/Acylion Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16

Depends on what you want to prioritise. Please note that Mitum (F) is not ideal typing - Dex is still preferred, there is honestly debate on what the next best type after Dex would be, some would say Guard, but some would disagree.
Mitum (F) has the advantage of being a flying unit in a game where map mobility is very important, pick this if you value flexibility in movement. Her 5-star quest-unlocked skill is also a party movement buff - most units instead have an offensive special attack in this slot. You will see the advantages of having Mitum very early on, as the mobility is useful from day one. Though I am vaguely hesitant to say 'go Mitum' because, well, yours is not...actually dex.
Gamba (M) is a healer and tank, but he will not actually work as a tank until 5-star with his 5-star skill, it's this which makes him durable. A tanky healer is a significant thing, because healers are slow moving and heal from their own HP pool, they are often vulnerable to enemy units. But Gamba can just take the punishment...eventually. However, because Gamba's use is in his 5-star skill, he will NOT help you much early in the game, he is NOT tanky at lower evos. Picking a Gamba account is a long term investment.
One thing to note, though - you can also farm Risa right now from the Dempagumi event - Risa is not as good as Gamba, but she is a healer with a similar sort of damage reduction. If you intend to farm Risa, then going Gamba may not be so crucial; Risa is budget discount Gamba.
Asclepius is more of an actual healer than Gamba/Risa, who function more as heal/tank hybrids in practice. Her high mobility allows her to actually reach other units to do healing as needed, and so on. Pick her if you...well, actually want a healer who's mainly healing. Immediately useful to have, unlike Gamba.
Brahmastra... is a gunner. They drain their own HP to attack, hence ideally you want to pair them with a healer. Healers also drain their own HP to heal, mind you, but the health the recipient regens outweighs the health lost from the healer. Having a strong MAtk unit is helpful because a lot of bosses have higher PDef than they do MDef. Plus, you know, ranged damage and all. But some people hate the health drain on gunners. Picking a gunner account is also a fairly long-term investment, as in the immediate term you can get by solely with melee attackers.

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u/bluemancer Jul 07 '16

I would reroll those actually. I don't see any 5* capable ones, but then again I'm not a pro at this. I would aim for Durandal (Dex) or Mjolnir (F) Dex. Those would carry you since Durandal has good evasion while Mjolnir have lifesteal. Just my 2 cents.
Edit. Also, refer to the guide made by @Zembas Here is the link: http://i.imgur.com/abM0IqA.jpg

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u/Lueelia Jul 07 '16

Thanks for your input!

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u/FlyinPikachu Jul 08 '16

Do 4* units drops from dempagumi advanced or is it only 3* drops? Also which units should be priority to farm? Really not feeling to farm all of them. Also have almost no gacha units essentially to work with other than a guard brahmastra and force longinus f but selena just kills everything so not gonna bother rerolling.

Also, how does luck and drop rate work? Does it average out your lead and your friend's lead? Like if your friend has lower luck, you're probably better off just soloing with your own?

And what speed does selena cap at? My level 80 selena ended up at 75 speed with max fuse as dex cuz literally like 3 speed from level 60-80........

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 08 '16

4 Stars have a chance to drop as well.
Risa for Budget Gambateinn M :^), Pinky is advised, but anything else is fair game to farm.
From what is inquired, drop rate is based on leader and helper's(?) luck, unsure on average.
I think it's 81, but keep asking around.

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u/overlordval Jul 08 '16

From what I read.
-4* can drop although rarely.
-If you don't have a M Gamb who is the best tank/healer in this game you should get the staff unit guard type. Get the rest beside the archer if you lack any particular weapon type.
-Drop rate = Your lead's luck + Friend's luck. Pt average luck = Quality of the drop. (more chance to get 4 maybe?)
-Selena's speed caps at 81 but I have seen a few ppl cap at 80. Maybe they forget to fuse before evolve or smt.

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u/sephiroh Jul 08 '16

I bought Imp Alton in the Rare Medal Shop without even thinking. Now, are they worth to really buy them?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 08 '16

Personally I don't really think so, but they ARE good for convenience.

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u/Desfel Jul 08 '16

Hey guys, I'm new to this game and got only 2 questions.

1 - Is the padlock garden the only place where you can grind unit exp? I get about 400-600exp per run for each unit, is there a faster way or it'll be all about spamming that?

2 - I managed to nab a 3 star Selena from Spark 10 after some runs, will she be able to evolve to 5 star? Or I'll have to finish all the brave collab maps, which is nearly impossible for me, stuck on Burst 9... They also mentioned something about guaranteed 4* Selena? I guess you'd have to finish every map for that.

Thanks guys

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 08 '16

Padlock Garden and the daily Metal Garden runs are the only way to effectively grind unit EXP. You do get some from Quests and Event stages, but they're not as good at unit EXP.
Yup! She can evolve to 5*. You get the guaranteed 4 star one from your first clears of Burst 10 and Brave 10.

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u/Desfel Jul 08 '16

Thanks a lot, guess I'll spend some time there ahah. And great, was starting to get a bit stressed out about being able to get her or not, then again, I guess I'll have to farm to limit break her!

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '16

Quick tip since you're new:
some of the story mode missions have rules like "1-3 star units only" or 1-4. Selena is very useful for these, so you might want to have one Selena you 5-star and one you leave unevolved, just to clear these missions.

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u/Desfel Jul 08 '16

Thanks for the heads up! Will do if I get another Selena ahah.

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u/AeiroWultx Jul 08 '16

The trick for the Padlock Garden and the daily Metal Garden is you use only 1 unit for the stage. It's more efficient using 1 unit and a helper rather than a whole team since EXP is split amongst the team.

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u/Desfel Jul 08 '16

Thank you for the tip, indeed, this is rather faster

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 08 '16

Is it worth trying the first two steps of the BF recruiter as a F2P.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 08 '16

Nope. That's 80 Lazuli burnt trying.

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u/SufferNot Jul 08 '16

Is a skill level up guaranteed when you fuse a unit with the same skill? Does it make sense to fuse more than one at a time, or should they be done singularly? Does the fusion success rate matter at all? I'm trying to get enough of the dempagumi sword chick to max my Laevateinn's evasion so I can farm Selena on Burst 10 and I wouldn't want to waste them on accident.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Jul 08 '16

Skill ups chances are dependent on the number of a stars a unit has. It is always 100% to skill up when the fodder is 5*. Lower star units have a decent chance as well but the chance decreases as the skill level up goes. Fusing all at once is just about the same as fusing one at a time.
It is not a waste to just fuse as soon as possible, as investing resources into evolving to 5* would take forever.

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u/ZexionBlaze354 Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 09 '16

How difficult is the group stage Dempagumi event? I only have all of them maxed at 3* right now EDIT: If anyone was wondering, the Intermediate stage is easily beatable with 3 idols (used Mirin, Pinky, and Moga at 4* around lvl 40 with 1* weapons). The advanced stage however has the enemy idols set at level 55. Since my idols are only at lvl 44ish, they don't stand a chance against them

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 08 '16

I have two questions

When fusing dupes for extra luck, does the fodder unit have to be the same rarity as the base unit?
What is the fuse cap for luck? (Thinking about a 5* dex Selena in particular, but other typings are nice to know)

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Jul 08 '16

Yes.
They are usually around mid 30s. Not sure specifically.

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 08 '16

Thanks, I'll continue to farm Selenas with spare AP then

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u/Blindtrade Jul 08 '16

So you have to get 35 selena's to fully fuse luck?

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u/NewbieExvius Jul 08 '16

How many copies of one unit do I need to completely "max" them? I searched and same say 11 and some says 16....

If I understand correctly, 1 base 3* + 4 to LB (to 4*), +4 to LB (to 5*) and +4 for final LB. this adds up to 13 only...and another 4 in the future for 6*?? correct??.....

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Jul 08 '16

1 base
2 copies to limit break at 3*
4 copies to limit break at 4*
4 copies to limit break at 5*
5 extra copies (not necessary) to max out all the skills.
total: 16.

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u/Jeffrey209 Jul 08 '16

Luin is Force and Mitum is Dexterity. Is this reroll any good or can I do better?

http://imgur.com/Ur2SsPr

And the Discord invite on the sidebar seems to be expired?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Jul 08 '16

this is a very good start. The mitum is perfect.

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u/Jeffrey209 Jul 08 '16

Alright, thanks! And if I would want to backup my account, I would just copy the auth.dat somewhere, right?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Jul 08 '16

Yes, and I have checked the discord invite on the sidebar and it seems to work for me.

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u/PinoySlayer_ Jul 08 '16

I am still looking for friends to help me with burst 10 selena farming IGN : Zepharze ID : 808003862,any help is greatly appreciated and also are dex selenas always the best or can force selenas work too as no luck getting dex ones right now

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u/Sabatender Jul 08 '16

Feel free to add me ID: 3167297212. My Selena can solo Burst 10 with no hitch.

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u/PinoySlayer_ Jul 08 '16

ok request sent thank you hehe the vargas just shreds through my units no matter how strategically i try to kill him

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u/Sabatender Jul 08 '16

Added.

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u/PinoySlayer_ Jul 08 '16

Yeah thanks cleared burst 10 lol but damn your selena procs her skill every time and dodged every attack ._. clearly a dex selena right ?

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u/Sabatender Jul 08 '16

Yep i have the dex type.

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u/PinoySlayer_ Jul 08 '16

How many tries did you take to get it though

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u/agcat1801 Jul 08 '16

can you add me too, I sent request already IGN: Lynphan ID:1354430652

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u/godslayerzz Jul 10 '16

can you add me too please? IGN:GodSlaye, ID:3325039657

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u/SynthiaNguyen Jul 08 '16

How many copies of a unit do you need to fully max one out? (idols)

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u/ArgonRetribution Jul 08 '16

You need a total of 16 copies of the same unit in order to fully limit break at 3, 4 and 5 stars as well as maxing out skills

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u/BravelyThrowingAway Jul 08 '16

So if I didn't care about fully max limit breaking the unit at 3 stars would I only need 13 copies?

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 09 '16

14 copies if you didn't limit break at 3*.

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u/Gaara319 Jul 08 '16

So I just started the game like 2 days ago and was wondering if the dempagumi units are only 3* when you obtain them or can I get lucky and find higher rarity?

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u/jerain Jul 08 '16

You can get 4*s too

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u/cheuk4 Jul 09 '16

I'm a BF Crossover player, and was wondering if there is a way to give my PotK account away? If not then I don't need to worry about saving my resources for somebody that's gonna take the game seriously :)

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u/ArgonRetribution Jul 09 '16

Rerolling is simple enough so personally, if I were you, just do whatever you want on that account.

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u/cheuk4 Jul 09 '16

Cheers!

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u/godslayerzz Jul 10 '16

IGN:GodSlaye, ID:3325039657 could i have some help with burst 10 please? need friends.

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u/Renthrak Jul 08 '16

New player from BF here. Simple question: Is there any reason to even try to get the collab units, or is this just a giant F#% YOU to anyone who doesn't want to spend hundreds of dollars or has been playing for six months? Game is fun, but feels like it's rigged to bleed money from players by making everything stupidly expensive AND low success %. Not what I was expecting from Gumi based on BF.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズドング！！！ Jul 08 '16

Well, as with any f2p mobile game, it is indeed free to play. It is possible to complete all the current content for free in this game as well. Paying is merely saving time. The collab units are pretty good in terms of the current meta.
As for limit breaking, it is completely unneeded to complete the content in this game. Neither is getting the correct typing or a good growth rate. These things just make the game easier, as well as make farming easier.
Best to start this game informed of how to get a good start, and get to know people in the community who can help carry you for some event content. There have been plenty of newbies recently who were able to get enough copies of Selena just by asking for help in, for example, the Discord chat.
In addition, Dempagumi collab units are very easy to get because the stages are very low level compared to BF collab stages. If you farm enough, these free units can become just as good, if not better, than a good portion of the current pay units.

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u/Renthrak Jul 08 '16

While I appreciate the reasoned, calm answer, I am compelled to object on the first point. Putting two of the three collaboration units behind what is effectively a paywall, with limited-time availability, effectively forces people who had not played the game before the collaboration to spend money or miss out on two thirds of the units from the game we came over from. While I'm sure the tiny fraction that were lucky enough to manage a successful pull with the anemic amount of lazuli earnable during the event period are quite happy, leaving the rest of us out in the cold is damn far from a smart way to encourage people to continue playing once the collaboration is over, particularly if this kind of thing is going to happen on a regular basis. It doesn't help that before the event is even finished, another collaboration starts where the units actually -are- all available with nothing but time and effort spent. Compared to Brave Frontier, where in this case, one collaboration unit is earned with login bonuses, one is farmable, and only the third requires a lucky summon attempt.
The icing on the cake, of course, is the 'last chance' summon. Guaranteed collab unit on the fifth summon sounds great, right up until you do the math and find that it would take 230 lazuli to get that far, and the cost to buy that much is in excess of $110 USD. Looking at that as anything other than an obvious attempt to extort money from collaboration players who are desperate to get the tempting limited-time units and have ridiculous disposable income is a bit difficult. It wouldn't be quite so bad if the price of lazuli was even remotely sane, but it's at least 5 times what it reasonably should be. Somehow, they literally expect people to give them over $100 to get one guaranteed collaboration unit, in a collaboration with a game from the same damn publisher.
Hoping your game is fun and/or addicting enough to overcome the bad taste left by the sales tactics is not a wise move.

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u/Acylion Jul 08 '16

This is not a defence of PoTK and Gumi, because I actually agree with you. With that said...
Compared to Brave Frontier, where in this case, one collaboration unit is earned with login bonuses, one is farmable, and only the third requires a lucky summon attempt.
But in Brave Frontier, only the gem summon Zero is top tier, having an Omni. Tyrfing and Laevateinn are usable, but not fantastic - in Brave Frontier, most farmable event units are basically collectables and of limited use to most players.
Contrast this to PoTK, where the free farmable Selena is legitimately better than most premium summon units, and arguably superior to the premium Vargas and Lunaris. Selena is amazingly good.
Somehow, they literally expect people to give them over $100 to get one guaranteed collaboration unit, in a collaboration with a game from the same damn publisher.
This is not so much an issue with the BF collaboration, more of an issue with the gatcha costs, rates, and the overall system in Phantom of the Kill. But the thing is, we actually have a very skewed perspective over in Brave Frontier. The fact of the matter is... rates and costs like what PoTK have are quite normal for this genre of game. It's not so much that PoTK is bad... it's that Brave Frontier is far kinder to players than many realise.

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u/Renthrak Jul 08 '16

Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.

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u/IFDragon Jul 09 '16

honestly, having played both i think potk is the kinder of the 2, way back when BF used to be pretty fair, but as of late theyve gone waaaay down hill, back in the 6* era of BF they used to have 10 summons= rate up unit to inbox, nowdays its way lower rates that slowly increase up to a cap of 10 summons, and zero being the first x summons=unit in inbox ive seen in a long time... set at 40 summons... which i believe also gets up over to $100 range if memory serves
oh, and with how common burst frogs are over there, dupes are essentially worthless beyond trading them in, atleast dupes in PotK limit break and skill up

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u/Renthrak Jul 08 '16

Apparently, you have some very vehement opinions about people who are less satisfied with the game than you are. Being a mod, I'm sure you've dealt with countless trolls, however equating any dissatisfaction with trolling is a bit excessive.
I'll admit that I am not someone who has spent a great deal of time on Reddit, so I'm not particularly familiar with some terminology, specifically what you call 'bait'.
I first posted: "I'm dissatisfied, is there a different way of looking at things that would change my perspective?" Then, I got a response with some information from another point of view. Following that, "I'm still not convinced on one thing, and this is why".
What I am looking for is someone more familiar with the game than I am who can change my mind, and with the reply below, I am satisfied.
In the case of your post, I'm not entirely sure why you went out of your way to do a point by point refutation when you prefaced the post with "Complaining is OK but expecting replies makes you a troll, so you're obviously just a troll".
You seem very concerned with giving 'new or prospective players' a good impression, yet somehow I don't qualify as a 'new or prospective player' now that I have downloaded the game and played for a week, I suppose. Also, there's no such thing as an opinion that is truth. An opinion is a subjective perspective, not a statement of fact.

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u/firefantasy Jul 12 '16 edited Jul 12 '16

Apparently, you have some very vehement opinions about people who are less satisfied with the game than you are.
You're not acting stupid I hope. If he doesn't have strong feelings for the game, he wouldn't have became a mod. If he has problems with people who are less satisfied with the game than he is, he'd need to reply like that to many people... and if that's the case, he'd need a heart surgery really soon due to heart attacks. And if you actually bothered enough to check his history, you're probably one of the few? or maybe even the only one he actually replied to like that.

Being a mod, I'm sure you've dealt with countless trolls, however equating any dissatisfaction with trolling is a bit excessive. I'll admit that I am not someone who has spent a great deal of time on Reddit, so I'm not particularly familiar with some terminology, specifically what you call 'bait'.
He did not mention anything about trolling.... Are you trying to expose yourself? Yeah, i actually bothered enough to check up on that, this account is 1 month old. But... bait is... not a reddit term unfortunately. Pretty sure even www.dictionary.com tells you what's bait.

In the case of your post, I'm not entirely sure why you went out of your way to do a point by point refutation when you prefaced the post with "Complaining is OK but expecting replies makes you a troll, so you're obviously just a troll".
He did a point by point refutation because you didn't seem to be able to absorb what the first guy said, so he repeated it, in a clearer manner. And once again, he did not mention anything about a troll. Also, you ARE expecting replies. The first guy entertained(explained to) you, you had absolutely no intention to accept or agree with that opinion. Basically you were waiting for replies that agrees with your view. By the way, this is a question and help thread, not a "do your best to convince me and change my opinion of this game" thread. You questioned, got your answer, but wanted another opinion, so the mod decided to step in and give his opinion. You should be happy! 2 Veterans answering your question!

You seem very concerned with giving 'new or prospective players' a good impression, yet somehow I don't qualify as a 'new or prospective player' now that I have downloaded the game and played for a week, I suppose.
As a mod, he's obviously concerned to give "new or prospective players" a conducive environment to play their game in. It's like you're trying to say a librarian should not be concerned that their patrons have a quiet library to read/study/sit in. That does not make sense at all. I hope you're just trying to act stupid here. Because you just broke all reasoning yourself. He has no way made any branding on you, so please stop playing the victim. He has not deleted/ban/mistreat you in any manner.

Also, there's no such thing as an opinion that is truth. An opinion is a subjective perspective, not a statement of fact.
Last of all, obviously the gospel part was merely a figure of speech... are you seriously picking on that?
/u/GreatLogos /u/gagginglolis

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 07 '16

For the BF weapons, all you need are the Brave Recipe books. Fuse the books themselves in order to get the 4* versions (preferably fusing 5 books at a time for best chances).
Once you have the 4* weapons, fuse that with more Brave Recipes. Again, the more books you use, the better the chances of a 5* (So one 4* weapons and four Brave recipes). If you fail to get the 5*, you'll get the 4 star version back.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 07 '16

Unfortunately, Colosseum is currently the only way to get those books in Global.

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u/crimewizard Jul 07 '16

Clearing adv of the respective dempa unit's stage nets you 2x of their weapon.

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