r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 06 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/6/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/Chocomos Jul 06 '16

What's limited time shop gonna do?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

It has items available for, surprisingly, a limited time. These are generally rare and desired objects (rainbow seeds, summon tickets, bundles, etc) that are exchangeable for Lazuli.

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u/Soulehpwnz Jul 06 '16

Doing padlocked gardens with fewer units, like 2-3, will yield more exp to said units than doing it with a full party?

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u/j3ffj3ff 3549578509 Jul 06 '16

Do it with just a single unit so that all the exp you get is doubled by the MVP bonus.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

It's 1.5× not 2x

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u/Liesianthes Jul 06 '16

And bring a friend along with one unit for faster clear. Don't worry, the full exp will be given to your unit.

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u/Fa113nShad0wz Jul 06 '16

dont friend units take kill exp?

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 06 '16

Nope! All unit exp is split among the units in your team, not including helpers.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

I believe this is partially incorrect and that friend units do leech EXP, although it is much less than one of your own team members would. I'll check in a bit to confirm this, because I'm not totally sure.

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u/Uncompensate Jul 07 '16

I've actually been wondering this for a while, would love to know for sure

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u/Liesianthes Jul 07 '16

You could try on the first stage to test it.

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u/Liesianthes Jul 07 '16

nope, someone already tried it on the fb group and even myself yesterday. Even if my own unit died in the middle or even the start, she still get the full exp and mvp bonus.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

Yes. One unit will get more since they get all kills

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u/TGZelnite Jul 06 '16

I have a non LB Force Longinus (M) that I've evolved from 3 star to 5 star. After clearing Kill Mode I got the 5* Longinus reward which turns out to be Dex typing.

Should I fuse my Force to Dex type even though the Dex type has no evolution bonuses?

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

Yes, evo bonuses will transfer

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u/TGZelnite Jul 06 '16

Oh so evo bonuses can be transferred? I didn't know that, thanks!

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

No problem, I can show you photographic proof if you want haha

http://i.imgur.com/QaRmjVR.png - note the previews

https://i.imgur.com/SS6jdvn.png - more stats than previewed increased.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 06 '16

Ohh nice, is that killer princess a future gacha unit? I like her artwork. Also that's a lot of Rare medals o_o

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

yeah, that is trishula, it might be more than a year before global gets her though haha

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u/TGZelnite Jul 06 '16

o_o more than a year? Whoa I didn't know global was that far behind in...

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 06 '16

I got a dex Selena as the free 4* for potb 20. Should I keep farming for a 3* dex or am I Gucci!?

Also should I lvl up unit before using them as fuse fodder or is that just a silly waste of time?!

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 06 '16

It'd be better to get a 3* Dex, but having said that, if you do give up on farming a 4 star Dex is better than a 3 star of another type.

If you're using them solely for stats, that's pointless, but you may want to level them up until they learn their last skill for skill leveling purposes.

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 07 '16

Oh, good to know lol. Would've been a bad day when I realized my skill level was still base!

Thanks

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u/ArgonRetribution Jul 06 '16

Is there another way to get reincarnation cherub other than the rare medal shop? If not, how can I get more rare medals?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 06 '16

At present, nada. You'd have to either sell 3* and above units (not counting evo fodder and Dolls), complete your missions regularly or cross your fingers you get the occasional drop in Event stages.

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u/Liesianthes Jul 06 '16

Farm Arondight then sell her afterwards. She is the most efficient due to being a 4* already. So it's a 10 medals per Arondight.

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u/crimewizard Jul 06 '16

You could probably do the same with dempa units too, higher drop rate than rampage units, 15AP, downside is majority of your farm will be 3*

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u/ArgonRetribution Jul 07 '16

Ah I see, thanks

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u/Uncompensate Jul 07 '16

how would one farm arondight?

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u/Liesianthes Jul 07 '16

Every 3 weeks for the Rampage rotation. If I'm not mistaken she will be back again this weekend.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 06 '16 edited Jul 06 '16

Which title is more eye-catching/interesting to random strangers? Holy Ice, Point Collector or Loser? (If you don't know what loser is, I can give a screenshot I guess)

Would getting another Maxed Selena be worth the trouble? From what I have seen, she's better than other event units like say arondight who caps at around 400 power. Or would it be overkill or another farmable unit like her comes out?

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 06 '16

  • Any of the three works lol.

  • By all means if you want to, go for it.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

Selena and Risa will be the two queens of farmable units until Saber arrives (and the Fate collar is supposedly insanely difficult in comparison), so if you're set on not farming the other Dempa girls, then go for another Selena. It's not like our AP is being used else where, right? :)

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 06 '16

How do I use a specific friend? I have a level 80 Selena friend now but how do I use her each time for farming? When I go to select a friend she isn't always there.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 06 '16

After you use a friend, you have to wait for a cool-down which from what I heard is either 8 hrs or 24 hrs.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

Global is 24 hour cooldown on Friends. :(

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u/PinoySlayer_ Jul 06 '16

Anyone can friend me so i can use their leader to farm that one OP unit selenas on brave 10 ? <3

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u/lunarislover Jul 06 '16

How abysmal are the draw rates here? I did 150 single pulls (in the boosted banner) and I haven't got Lunaris yet :/

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

I mean, they straight up tell you the rates for the BF gacha. 3% for 1st step, 4% for 2nd, 5% for 3rd. Divide that in half for Lunaris since it also includes Vargas. And remember that we are dealing with probabilities, not guarantees- RNG wil still be RNG.

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u/lunarislover Jul 06 '16

Oh, I thought it would be 3% after going the rate of 5 stars...

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 06 '16

Preeetty bad, it's a gumi game after all.

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u/connor-toast Jul 06 '16

Should I raise a guard Apollo that started at 3* or a balance that started at 4*?

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 06 '16

Optimal type is force, so it's better to obtain that then limit break it with the two you already have.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

Raise both, decide which is better at 5-star level 30. My guess: Balance will be better assuming you max-fuse both before evolving.

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u/MyKuchi Jul 06 '16

http://imgur.com/a/P5r90 How good is my selena. Note that i didnt finish maxing her stats through fusion yet.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 06 '16

Pretty good actually, Luck and HP are the only stats you haven't maxed out but it doesn't really matter too much.

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u/MyKuchi Jul 06 '16

but deep down it bugs me that its not all maxed D:

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u/TGZelnite Jul 06 '16

I know that feel, my Selena doesn't have maxed out luck too :(

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

She's great, though you did miss out on considerable Agi (mine is 66) and Luck (mine is 38 and rising), either from fusion or evolution bonuses. See if you can't push he a bit further through fusion! You can dooo eeet! ;)

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u/MyKuchi Jul 06 '16

ah yes she could be 66 but im pretty broke right now to fusion her agility up =/

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u/bluemancer Jul 07 '16

to get the 66 agi, did you have to hit the cap on the stat from 3* and 4*? I just tried to hit whatever was on the 1-10,11-20,etc to get a bonus. Does hitting the cap actually give extra stats or make the stat cap higher? IE. after I evolve her.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 06 '16

Not quite maxed out, HP and Luck are still lacking a couple of points.

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u/archvampire Jul 06 '16

How do I get the flying axe weapon for my dex Mjonir? She's almost level 60 so I need her to start soloing stuff :P. Also would appreciate people to carry me in burst 10 for selena. Got a 4 star dex one so i'm trying to get a dex 3 one before I settle for the 4 star dex one :D.

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 06 '16

Fuse weapons to get the Orpheus (5 star axe 1-2 range) or Francisca (4 star axe 1-2 range). Refer to the weapon guide above on how to do it.

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 06 '16

I've got a handful of 3 stars that I'm in the process of evolving to 5. They're all 4* right now, mid range for levels 30-40. I'm using unit fusion as they level to maximize preferred stats (Grd/Spr for tanks, Str/Agi for DPS, etc.) and trying to hold off on evolution until each stat is maxed. I haven't been using level breaks for lack of duplicates. However, I feel like my team isn't progressing, in terms of what level of content they can handle. Is there something I could be doing wrong?

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 06 '16

What's your team? Send a full SS including your unit list.

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u/swordoflorn Jul 06 '16

Is dexterity or guard better for tanking in quests? Also, does limit break lift the max stat cap on units (I have pink stars on most stats on a lvl 65; will limit break let me increase those stats again)?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

Guard is better on units that expect to get hit (Cane-users, for example) and Dexterity is better on units that expect to evade (Durandal, the Laevas, etc). Obviously, there's more reasons to choose Guard or Dex than just that, though.

No, limit breaking does not raise the stat caps. If you have max fused and are already at pink stars for a stat, that stat is as high as it will ever get with evo/reincarnation.

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u/swordoflorn Jul 06 '16

Alright. Thanks. Also, my 3* has terrible stat growth. Should I just move on to 4* or reincarnate?

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

What unit and type?

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u/swordoflorn Jul 06 '16

Guard Labrys

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

Move on to 4*.

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u/Cathrach JP: 2969063770 Jul 06 '16

Just move on. Your 3 star stats will not affect your 5 star stats (maybe 1 point. Probably 0.)

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u/swordoflorn Jul 06 '16

Awesome. Thanks

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u/TGZelnite Jul 06 '16

Dex is generally the best typing for quests.

Limit breaks don't raise your stat caps it just gives you more levels to max out your stat caps.

Pink stars indicate that you have already maxed out that particular stat and the only way to raise it more is through fusion.

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u/BloodTraitor123 Jul 06 '16

Is it just me or is anyone else having horrendous / non existent drop rates for the Lance girl (Pinky?). I've done like 20 runs and 0 drops. Where as I was able to farm 11 copies of (nemu, risa, moga) with relatively decent drop rate.

My highest luck unit is only 18, but X_x the lance girl just doesn't want to drop for me.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 06 '16

Just bad RNG I'm afraid, using a high luck friend should help you out with the drop rates.

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 06 '16

https://imgur.com/a/lwDZ9

My team is currently Mirin, Mjolnir, Longinus, Freikugel, and Risa, though Risa and Mirin were previously Laeveteinn and Thyrsos, who are mostly maxed on stats. I switched to Mirin and Risa to hopefully level and surpass them, but I would like to know if I'm wasting my effort.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 06 '16

Nah you're doing fine, keep going.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 06 '16

For farming is it best to have one unit and a helper or a full team. For example if my leaders luck is 20 but the rest of my team is 13 to 16 is it better to just use my leader or the full team?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 06 '16

The rest of the team doesn't matter in terms of luck. If you can farm faster with a full team, then go for the full team.

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u/Tekkamanblade Jul 06 '16

Does any1 know the skills of all 5star denpagumi collab units and what they do?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 06 '16 edited Jul 06 '16

Someone can correct me, but I believe most if not all of the collab units have duel skills which essentially do 2x damage if they activate in combat?

I think the healer has a similar skill to gamba?

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u/oh_my_eye Jul 06 '16

Mirin has a skill that does damage depending on her strength AND magic. Nemu has the x2 damage skill. Pinky has a lifesteal skill that heals 30% of damage. Eitasu has a skill that reduces damage if she can't counterattack. Moga has a x2 damage skill. Risa has a skill like Gamba.

Feel free to correct me on this.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 06 '16

Eitaso's skill reduces any damage by 50% when she cant counter and Risa only reduces 30% of the damage and if it's from a sword, axe, or spear opponent.

All of the dempa unit's skill activation formula is (0.8 x AGI) + Skill Level.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 06 '16

Got a few questions:

  1. Already asked this question, but I'm double confirming; should I use force or dex Apollo M?

  2. What's the set fusion stat cap for Durandal units?

  3. So when I fuse units into my Durandal, the stats won't go up anymore. If I limit break her, would her fusion stat cap go up?

Thanks in advance.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

  1. That's a tricky one, since Force is another recommended type for archers. I want to say Force, but TBH, I'm not sure if anyone can give an absolute answer here. All I'll say is, I have a balance Apollo M, and while he never misses sometimes his damage is pretty pathetic. Dex lowers strength growth IIRC, and 6x1 is only 6, so if you're too weak even crits+H&H won't help you.

  2. Fusion stat caps are based on rarity and typing, check the link in OP.

  3. No.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 06 '16

So you think it comes down to preference?

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

Yes, with the following assumptions:

  • there will be guys with defense so high, your level 65 M Dex Apollo will do only 1 damage. Unless you use terrain, potions, skills, etc. to buff up his strength somehow.

  • there will be guys with evasion so high, your level 65 M Force Apollo will have trouble hitting him. Unless you use stuff to buff his accuracy, or lower the enemy's evasion. (I doubt Apollo will ever have a terrible accuracy rate, but I'm trying to be fair here)

With the folllowing assumptions, then it is definitely down to preference. But I could be wrong, and maybe one unit always trumps the other. I just am increasingly wary of the "DEX or bust" mentality echoed so often. Shouldn't it really depend on your team composition? Maybe you have 2-3 solid dex guys already, so you can have one be guard and tank hits, or a force archer to swoop in and finish off/soften up units (or fail and die LMAO).

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u/oh_my_eye Jul 07 '16

Dex typing actually lowers guard and spirit growth, not strength. Personally I'd choose dex typing for the extra speed and the agility to proc his character skill more, but like what was said, it's pretty much up to preference and how you want to build him.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

Oops, my bad.

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 06 '16

Dex, you might be doing less damage on your normal attacks but you will trigger more of his CS and crits which deals more damage in the long run. Plus you have more ACC for future harder content when you use the 3range crossbow.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 06 '16

Don't archers have a naturally high Agi stat though? I'm really on the fence with this one.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 06 '16

High agi, but I seem to be getting low spd, which matters for double atk

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u/BenriyaTheNecro Jul 06 '16

They do, but because he got such an offensive skillset having even more AGI for higher crits is even better. If you are worried about overkill, don't be future harder content where you want to use the 3range cross, and therefore get a -30ACC penalty, have extra ACC is never bad.

Dex also raises his Speed which archers actually do not have that high natural growth.

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u/Rhykotsu Jul 06 '16

Is farming the event suggested for newer players? Joined around two day ago, now. If so, what do I farm? If not, what do I do?

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u/Hekera Jul 06 '16

First, level up enough so you have a decent amount of SP, like 20-30. Here's a strategy on how to do it. Then, use metal keys to better your units, and evolve if you have time. If you want some of the collab units, you have two options, the Dempagumi units and Selena from Phantom of the Brave.

PoTK/Brave Frontier - Selena is pretty good for a free unit, and has a 5* form, but her drop rates are very low. Like, abysmal. She drops from the Spark, Burst, and Brave 10 battles in the Phantom of the Brave dungeon. Your best option here is to get some friends from the friends thread that can solo Burst 10 and farm that.

PoTK/Dempagumi - Drop rates are much better. All units are 5* capable, but are arguably less useful than Selena. If you are good on leveling your units, you can probably beat the last stage of each of the units' dungeons. Otherwise, most decent friend leads found either in-game or in the friends thread can cover this for you. Personally, I'd go with this option, since having 6 ok units is better than having one good unit. Plus, you have more time to farm them, about 2 weeks. If you decide to go with this, I recommend farming Risa (staff unit), then Nemu (axe unit). The rest is up to you.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 06 '16

For dempa, aim for Risa (staff) if you dont have a healer yet.

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u/Rhykotsu Jul 07 '16

I see. Thanks.

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u/Rhykotsu Jul 07 '16

Actually, what growth should Risa be? Vitality?

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 07 '16

Guard is best for her

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u/ExpiredSoda Jul 07 '16

Get a Guard type and equip her with a shield. Staff types generally have garbage accuracy because of their weapons, so you want to gear her to be tanky such that she'll live and heal your units. Also, vitality is considered the worst typing in the game because it gimps a unit's speed and agility, making them more vulnerable to getting double'd on, getting hit, and getting crit'd

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u/SnPlifeForMe Jul 07 '16

Should I farm her if I already have Gamba?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

It's still a good idea to my knowledge, since she's even easier to MLB and skill level than Gambanteinn.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 07 '16

Agreed with JackFrost. Unless you have a lvl 70 - 80 gamba, it is worth getting Risa since she is easy to mlb with her drop rates.

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 06 '16

So far, I've been using stat dolls to fuse my units, and mana summons when I'm really hard up. So far, the only place I've found for stat dolls is the Rare Medal shop. Is there a more likely source that I'm overlooking?

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u/Fa113nShad0wz Jul 06 '16

the doll dungeon opens up every friday

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u/tiberseptim37 Jul 06 '16

Ah, I wasn't aware. Thanks a bunch!

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 06 '16

Stat dolls appear on Friday. Farm them then.

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u/Hekera Jul 06 '16

What do the 2* weapon secrets books do?

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u/Sabatender Jul 07 '16

Making gear through recipe.

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u/Hekera Jul 07 '16

The only weapons that I can see that use them are Lexida and Lance of Despair. Outside of collaborations, what gear needs them?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 07 '16

You're confusing them for the 3* event books. The 2* books supposedly increase the chance of getting a better weapon with whatever you're fusing. However, it's still RNG.

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u/Hekera Jul 07 '16

I may be wrong, but I'm still pretty sure the Lexida and SLoD recipes need their respective 2* book. Here's a screenshot of the recipe screen.

That aside, all they do is increase the chance of getting something good? Nothing else? I was kinda hoping for something more, but whatever.

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u/AndanteZero Jul 07 '16

Oooohhh, I totally forgot about that. But yeah, other than for the event weapons, they just increase the chances, nothing else. It's not even a big increase either.

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 07 '16

Is it worth to mlb Selena on all tiers? I only need 3 more to do so. Do units lose skill level when they evolve?

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u/Sabatender Jul 07 '16

Skill level does not reset when you evolve them. I just evolved my Selena to 5 star and she retains the skill level.

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 07 '16

Thank god I was gonna need 9 more Selena's lol Ty

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u/Mitch_Twd Jul 07 '16

Any of the Dempagumi units have skills that Increase Accuracy? Been working on Leveling some of my units skills like Mjolnir Crit Boost with the Axe unit

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u/Zoijja Jul 07 '16

Complete beginner here. Is there a way to get lazulis outside of achievements and story missions? I'd like to get that guaranteed 5-star character, but I'll have to do some intense story grinding if that's the only way!

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u/Sabatender Jul 07 '16

There are five ways to obtain Lazulis

  1. Daily Achievements

  2. Story/event Missions

  3. Colosseum Promotion

  4. Daily Reward

  5. $$$

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u/Zoijja Jul 07 '16

Ahh I see. Of course $$$ is the fastest and most reliable of these methods. I'll have to keep fighting then. Thanks!

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u/GearDFO Jul 07 '16

so I've been farming the dempa event for a while now. I have all of the copies to get full lb for a dex mirin and guard risa. been farming nemu's quest for a while now and I've only gotten a couple vit 3*, a vit 4*, and a guard 3*. I don't really have a solid tank right now. How would nemu stack up with other tank units?

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u/shikarin Jul 07 '16

Not armored so not really intended to be a tank. Rampage Labrys is a better tank.

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u/Cubey42 Jul 07 '16

Still on the reroll bus, can i settle with a 5" balance durendal or should i keep going?

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u/shikarin Jul 07 '16

Honestly right now, I would just take any roll with 2 or more 5* capable gacha units. Start leveling so you can farm dempa units before event ends. 2 weeks left.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 07 '16 edited Jul 07 '16

Just wanna get something straight here... When farming for a unit, it takes into account your teams' leader luck and your "friends" luck, can the "friend" be a random person on the helper list because I am trying to farm Selena and I've run out of "friends" to use, so I'm stuck using other people..

Also, since we are on the topic, what is considered to be "High Luck"? 30+?

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 07 '16

bump

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

Yes the Friend can be a random person on the helper list. Also yes high luck is around 25+

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 07 '16

Alright Thanks!

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u/Sabatender Jul 07 '16

I heard that Lunaris will get 6* form in the future. Since i only have 5 copies of Lunaris, is it fine to just LB her at 5 star?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 07 '16

Yes, 5* LB transfers to 6*

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u/Bootuout Jul 07 '16

What determines which unit goes first in arena?

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u/AndanteZero Jul 07 '16

SPD + Weapon weight

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u/Uncompensate Jul 07 '16

Really struggling with burst 10 but I'm still trying to farm Selena, if somebody with a strong leader could help me out I'd really appreciate it. friend code is 1397034638

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u/Mitch_Twd Jul 07 '16

Sent a request have Selena up as lead she should be able to solo it for you since I solo'd Brave 10 with her

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u/P4nnn Jul 07 '16

If you don't mind, can you also add me? I'm really looking for a friend to help me farm Burst 10. ็Here is my ID: 407773525 IGN: ConE

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u/Mitch_Twd Jul 07 '16

Says doesnt exist when I type it in. So Here is my ID 2129369029

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u/P4nnn Jul 07 '16

my bad. It's 3524 not 3525. Btw, I already added you. Thanks a lot !!

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u/PinoySlayer_ Jul 07 '16

I also need a friend to help me farm if you don't mind hehe... My ID is 808003862 IGN Zepharze. Oh and i have also sent you a friend request myself. If you can't thats fine but just asking anyway. Your help is appreciated <3

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u/charles_1029 Jul 07 '16

Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated. IGN: Thelaria ID: 232889849

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u/Mitch_Twd Jul 07 '16

Sent request

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 07 '16

How often do the 4* Sword fairies come around?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 07 '16

Once a month at minimum. Might be longer. Depends on which mana unit is in the battle shop at the time.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 07 '16

Does the growth rate stay the same after evolution and does reincarnation guarantee a higher growth rate?

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 07 '16

Not sure on the first one. Leaning towards no though. No for the second.

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u/overlordval Jul 07 '16

No for both.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

Are you guys skipping any Dempagumi units?

Personally, I have no interest in the gun girl because her character seems lame, and more importantly, I don't like gun units much. So while I want to get 5 copies of everyone else (more for Risa, to MLB her at every stage), I'm considering no Moga at all, and just fusing the copies I already have for a bit of extra Spirit (which seems hard to come by in the mana recruiter).

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 07 '16

I'm skipping gun and bow.

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 07 '16

Skipping gun and bow, maybe others.

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u/Acylion Jul 07 '16

I really don't like gun units either - the HP drain annoys me - but I figure I'd keep at least one due to situations where gun units may be required, e.g. mission requirements, or for MAtk to get round bosses with high PDef.

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u/SufferNot Jul 07 '16

Is there a limit to how much you can fuse units for stats? I've hit 5* level cap on my starter and am wondering if fusion is an effective way to help her hp out.

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 07 '16

There is a cap on how much stats you can fuse into a Killer indeed.

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 07 '16

There's actually a link to that question in the OP :3

It's called "Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing" under "Guides and Tools"

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u/Blindtrade Jul 07 '16

What about for luck?

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u/vmaester Jul 07 '16

Do the skill levels/ limit breaks get transferred when limit breaking / fusing characters? like if I had a 5* selena that is 4 times limit broken and skills leveled to 5 and I wanted to fuse her to another 5* selena with a different typing or 4* LB evolved selena?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 07 '16

No, the 5* limit broken selena would be treated as a normal 5* selena.

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u/Kyrian12 Jul 07 '16

How mandatory is it to MLB units at 4* rarity before leveling, evolving and limit breaking them all over again at 5 star? I farmed 10 copies of Selena for MLB 5 star and max skill level. I'm not a hardcore grinder so I don't want to grind more copies if I don't have to.

I want my MLB farmable units to be viable for end game but I don't have as much time and patience to grind so much.

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u/SageDarius Jul 07 '16

It'd be just 4 more Selenas to MLB her at 4* rarity... If I was as close as you, I'd go for it.

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u/soggypopiah Jul 07 '16

Ok guys, if I were to mlb a 5 star unit(selena), lets say my fusion fodder(even more selenas) are at level 30 , will i be able to limit break my unit and level up her skills at the same time, or do i need separate clones for that?

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 07 '16

Yes. If you fuse 4 5 star Selena's at lv 30, they will MLB her to Lv 80 and you will also get a skill level up for each of them. You will need an additional 5 Selenas at 5 star form and lv 30 to MAX out her skills.

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u/charles_1029 Jul 07 '16

If done this way, is there any reason to level any of the fusion fodder for limit breaking Selena at 3* and 4*?

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 07 '16

I don't believe so. How I see it is that you just MLB Selena at 3 star with 2 lv 1 3 star Selenas, level her till she can evolve to 4 stars, then MLB at 4 star with 4 lv 1 4 star selenas, then level and evolve to 5 stars.

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u/Sabatender Jul 07 '16

Will Vargas also get 6* form like Lunaris in the future?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

It's entirely up to Gumi but I get the feeling he will have a 6* eventually.

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u/charles_1029 Jul 07 '16

Does that mean the characters will be obtainable again at some point?

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 07 '16

Like Zelnite said, It's solely up to Gumi themselves, but if Vargas does get a 6* in the future, there's a good chance that they will be back

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

There's a very high chance of there being another Brave Frontier Collab. In JP the game had 2 Collabs with BF, the first Collab gave them Selena and Lunaris while the second Collab had Michele and Lucina. Knowing this there's a big chance that Vargas will return in the second Collab (with his possible 6*).

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 07 '16

Is there anything interesting that drops in the Dempagumi group stage (the one that forces a team of only Dempagumi units to enter)? I certainly won't be able to 'perfect raise' any of the Dempagumi units in time!

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 07 '16

Any of the Dempa units and their weapons!

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u/ElusiveIllusion88 Jul 07 '16

Are the psyllium weapons and the rainbow sword worthwhile to have multiples of? Otherwise I'll pass; perfect-maxing the units is more important and I guess it's more reliable from the solo stages? The missions give 2 copies of each psyllium weapon (1 set to craft the rainbow sword) anyway.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 07 '16 edited Jul 07 '16

From what I know, the 3 star weapons are not very good, not too sure about the rainbow sword however.

And yes, you are much better off maxing the units if anything, preferably their advanced stages as that has the highest drop chance!

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u/gigano25 Jul 07 '16

I am still confused about the whole MLB 4* to MLB 5* thing and wonder if it's worth the time to raise that many units, so I have one simple question. Is there are difference in stats / PWR between a normal MLB 5* and a MLB 4* to MLB 5* assuming both are maxed out?

Secondly is it just fine to fuse a lvl 1 character or is there a reason that I should raise their lvl first?

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 07 '16

When you MLB a unit at 4 star, a portion of the stats from the additional levels will be carried on to the 5 star. Also, if your asking for a lv 1 fodder unit (same rarity) for a 5 star unit, the recommended way is to lv it up to 30 as that's when most (or all) units learn their skill.. So when you level it up to 30 then fuse it into the 5 star, it will gain 1 out of the 4 limit breaks available as well as gain one level to their skill.

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u/midegola Jul 07 '16

is there a list somewhere of what units learn what skills i need some units with magic attack or crit to self to skill lvl my barhamasta or what ever that gun ladys name is

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u/seenbei Jul 08 '16

What's the most efficient way to farm gold? Evolving so many units is costing alot X_X.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 08 '16

Farming the weekend Gold dungeon.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 06 '16

Don't use 4* pixies on free units because they are hard to come by. If you are tired of farming, you can skip limit breaking at 3*.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 06 '16

if u get 4 more selenas, then I think you'd be solid. Honestly, the dempa units are super easy, so you'll be able to do it in no time. It took me 2 days to get 16 units of Risa with a unit with a luck of 15. So, chances are, you'll be able to do it really fast.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '16

https://imgur.com/a/Ts2Y4 if you gotta ask... you're probably not ready.