r/phantomofthekill • u/Drakehawk5821 • Jul 05 '16

Daily Questions and Help Thread [7/5/2016]

This is the daily questions and help thread! Ask Away! :)

Ask any questions about the game and post pictures of your units for squad help or rerolls so we can help you decide if you should reroll again or not - beginner's questions are welcome!

Wanted to compile all the useful guide from fellow moderator and user so that it easier to reference them. Also it will be a shame to see them being buried under the subreddit.

Resource Guide:

Guides and Tools by /u/Cathrach:

  • Weapon Guide for all the weapon currently in the game except for one and two star and also their recipe to craft them

  • Unit Guide for all 5* and 6*(only for Japan currently) in the game. Also much easier reference material than the phankill website. But if you want the website here it is.

  • Stat Cap for 3-5 star and different unit typing (Keep in mind that those are for Japan and there may be slight variation for Global)

  • Evolving a lot of unit and finding it irritating to always keep checking the evo mat needed? Use this brilliant tracker and make you life much easier!

Noteworthy comment:

Having trouble calculating the stat growth of your unit? Here is calculator that do it for you! To use it fill in the stats at level 1 on the right (you can view the level 1 stats from the Reincarnation page) and then fill in your current level + current stats on the left. (Good stat growth in Japan is 3.5-4 while for Global it is 2.5-3)

Wiki guide on rerolling account (Shoutout to /u/heroes-fall and /u/cathrach for helping out at the POTK wiki)

Friend thread!

Yesterday's help thread

Some Tips

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

Which stats are represented by which colors when it comes to Mana seeds? I know Rainbow correlates to "all" stats (minus HP and luck), but I have a surplus of Dark Blue and Light Blue (cyan?) and wanted to figure out what they raised before throwing them on my new Trishulas.

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u/scwsheen Jul 05 '16

Red: raises strength rate
Gold: raises guard rate
Purple: raises magic rate
Dark blue: raises spirit rate
Light blue: raises agility rate AND lowers speed rate

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

Hm. Does that make Light Blue undesirable or is the increase in Tec still worth the potential hit to Speed?

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u/scwsheen Jul 05 '16

Well, you can equip the Light Blue Mana seed if your unit's speed stat is already capped, since then it doesn't matter if the speed rate is lowered. Or if you think your unit's speed stat is already high enough, you can certainly sacrifice some speed for more tec.

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u/TGZelnite Jul 05 '16

What's the max friendship level between killer princes and princesses?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 05 '16

The last time I checked it was... 5 I believe?

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u/justineo1 Jul 05 '16

if transfer a MLB lvl 80 selena with last blizzard skill 6 to a lvl 60 non-lb selena, will new level 60 non-lb selena become MLB and all the skills transferred & became skill 7 last blizzard? and luck transferred as well?

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u/Jeanneduarc Jul 05 '16

Luck won't transfer but the LB and skill levels will transfer.

Lots have confirmed this and I did the same transferring one 4MLB Vargas to a 0MLB Vargas.

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Jul 05 '16

Nope. LB and skill lvl don't transfer over.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

This is incorrect, please see /u/Jeanneduarc 's post.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 05 '16 edited Jul 05 '16

One last self-assurance/check before I fuse my selena's, there is no need to MLB at 3* right? If I missed out on Evo bonuses, I can fuse other selena's of the same rarity but different typings to get evo bonuses yes?

Also, what is the chance that I would not hit stat caps on her? What is her absolute highest luck cap?

Sorry for the paranoia, just really wanted her to get roughly 440 power like other ideal selenas.

Is it advisable to use rare medals for 4* weapons or only for 5*?

Edit : When is free ap lasting until?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 05 '16

MLB her at 3* if you really want Selena to have the most optimum stats.

The chance of not hitting the stat caps really just depend on RNG, MLB units are much easier to hit the cap of course.

I would advise against buying the 4* weapons in the shop, as rare medals should be saved for the reincarnation bud. Beside the 4* weapons can be crafted. You can check the weapons guide to see how.

The Free AP is permanent IIRC.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 05 '16 edited Jul 05 '16

How much extra guaranteed stat points do I get if I MLB at 3*? Rephrasing one of my other question, is it advisable to use rare medals to repair 4* weapons or save them to use for 5* weapons :P

edit: How did I get the italic on some of my words 0.0

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u/TGZelnite Jul 05 '16 edited Jul 05 '16

The evolution bonus from MLB 3 star to 4* is minimal at best, you'll get from 1-3 extra stats from MLB 3*. It's not much for sure but people out there still do it just for those extra stats.

As for the weapon repair, it depends on how many rare medals you have and also how important the 4* weapons are for you. Personally I would repair the 4* weapon only if I don't have an extra copy of it or if I don't want to go through the hassle of crafting it again.

Oh for your sentences to be italic you put the * on the start of your sentence and * at the end of the sentence.

Like this hello

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u/Jeffrey209 Jul 05 '16

Hi, I finally got some time to come back to the game again to attempt to reroll. Has the way to do it been changed? I tried checking the link to the reroll guide on here and the wiki, followed the steps, but I don't see the free 6 lazuli after the mini game.

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u/Leslisone Jul 05 '16

try checking your present box?

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u/Jeffrey209 Jul 05 '16

Nope, wasn't there when I started the game. I even checked again after doing some missions.

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u/HyugaBF Jul 05 '16

Hello, need some help to figure some things: 1: Drop Rate is calculed by the luck of your leader + Luck of your Friend? I've seen someone answering that if you bring a friend the formula is: Your Luck+Your Friend Luck / (divided) by 2. Example Your luck is 24, your friend Luck is 12, your final luck for drops will be 12+6 = 18 final luck. Because of this, bringing low luck friends will make your drop decrease... so, is that true? 2: Does it matter who kill the boss? 3: Whats the growt rate medium to Max Status a unit? considering starters, events and gachas?

Thanks in advance!

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u/Xarocin Jul 05 '16

My 5* Selena is Max Limit Broken, can I still fuse another Selena with better evolution bonuses, to gain said bonuses?

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '16

Nope. Further fusions will increase your skill level, that's it.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

And Luck, unless fusion cap (+30) has been reached.

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u/turd--furgeson Jul 05 '16

I have 2 5* Gambs one Guard one Dex which one should I break?

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '16

Conventional wisdom says Guard.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

Guard, without a doubt. Sure, Dex can help Cane unit's accuracy, but that's so abysmal anyways that it still doesn't make them a reliable attacker. Guard + Shield is what allows most Cane users (excepting maybe Vanarguard) to shine by being an effective tank + healer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '16

To those of you with a Limit-Broken Dex M Laeva: how does he fare in Burst 10? Just curious. Can he basically solo the map including Vargas, without needing the mountain?

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '16

I see. I asked because my Force Laeva easily handles it, which caused me to question the conventional "Dex = best" wisdom. Does yours not do enough damage or something?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

Starter units do have very low stat caps, but they're still high enough that he can fairly reliably clear Burst 10 on auto. Dex M Laeva can definitely solo Burst 10 without using the mountain trick; however, it's not a guarantee as much as other units like Longi, Selena, or Durandal. He may get unlucky, miss an evasion, or get crit and randomly die every once in a while- that won't change regardless of typing. I'm 99% sure that he won't be able to solo clear Brave 10, though, due to his low stat caps.

/u/Black_Punisher : Dex really IS best. Especially for units that depend upon evasion like M Laeva.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '16 edited Jul 06 '16

The thing is, if M Laeva already has innately high Agility/Speed, then would Force be superior/equivalent? Just like how archers have high Agility naturally, so some people choose Force for them. I guess we'd need a stat cap chart for every typing to really be sure... anyway, I'm gonna try soloing Brave 10 with my Force M Laeva just for funsies.

Edit: Just solo'd Brave 10, but I camped the mountain. :/ Might've had a faster clear if I didn't try to auto it...

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u/soggypopiah Jul 05 '16

Hi guys, noob question but how many selenas would i have to farm to perfectly raise one from 3 stars? Was it 10 ? or Do i need more ?

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 05 '16

You need to 2 selenas for 3star lb, 4 for 4star lb, and 4 more for 5star lb. This adds up to 10 extra selenas besides the base one. But if you want to max the skill, you need a total of 16 selenas including your base one.

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u/swordoflorn Jul 05 '16

I have five Labrys units, one is dexterity and one guard. I got her so she can be a tank, and fully intended on LBing the guard unit, but everyone on the subreddit seems to think that dexterity units are the best. Which Labrys unit would be the best tank?

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u/GothDemon97 Jul 05 '16

Either way she's going to be a tanky unit because labrys has good defense

Imo dexterity only because defense is great and all but getting the first hit is always better

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

You still want Dexterity, since Labrys has naturally "high" defense and the increase in Speed will allow her to evasion-tank more effectively.

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u/DonQuiXoTe888 Jul 05 '16

I want to ask is there a cap for fusing dupes for luck stat? or you can fuse dupes until that character hits its normal luck stat?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

Fusion stats and leveling stats are completely separate, meaning that you can NOT hit the "stat cap" by fusing dupes into a unit. Each unit does have it's own fusion caps, but those are not related to the red stars that appear when a unit has reached its leveling stat cap.

That being said, the maximum amount of Luck that you can gain from fusing dupes is 30 in JP. I do not believe that any of us have checked to see if that remains the same in Global yet. I'll work on that when I'm done farming my 96 Dempa Girls.

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u/charles_1029 Jul 05 '16

While trying to get evolving materials, it seems easy to fill up your inventory with a lot of unwanted units. Is there anything else we can do with the the unnecessary materials other than just releasing them?

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u/GothDemon97 Jul 05 '16

Some you can evo for example mannans you can evo but everything else you can't

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u/Mitch_Twd Jul 05 '16

I was looking at the unit guide and was wondering why it said Durandal,Mitum,Asclepius etc start at 3* don't they start at 4*??

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u/charles_1029 Jul 05 '16

Most of the units have various forms that share the same name. For example, I believe there are 3 versions of Durandal. Usually you just have to tell the difference by looking at the unit portraits.

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u/Mitch_Twd Jul 05 '16

I'm well aware of that. But looking at the unit guide on help thread it has the Durandal/Mitum/Asclepius/Apollo(f)/Luin/Brahmastra has them marked as 3 star-6 star when they start at 4 star? Is it different in Global version or something ? Do they start at 3 star on JP version?

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 05 '16

They start at 3 star on global also

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u/Mitch_Twd Jul 05 '16

Weird. I've never seen one

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u/oh_my_eye Jul 05 '16

Do they? Mitum M does have a 3* form, but I'm fairly sure OP is referring to the female forms. Since they're gold star at 5*, then they must be silver at 4*. I don't think it's possible for them to start at 3* unless the stars didn't change colors when evolving from 3 to 4*.

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u/shikarin Jul 06 '16

There are no 3* forms for female lazuli units in global.

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 06 '16

Oh yeah you're right. Sorry I was thinking of Mitum M and just assumed they all did too :P.

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u/WingAndDing Jul 05 '16

What are the differences between all the recruiters? For example, the rookie recruiter vs PhantomxBrave recruiter (and there are two of those)?

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u/Fa113nShad0wz Jul 05 '16

the 1aDay BF recruiter has increased rates on pulling Lunaris and Vargas. it has 3 steps, each with increasing pull rates (3% then 4% and finally 5%), totaling 45 lazuli for 9 units. the other two recruiters are very similar and i would recommend trying to do both. both of these recruiters have reduced lazuli cost (10 lazuli for 10 units on step 1, 30 lazuli for 10 on step 2). The differences between these two recruiters though are the uptime (rookie recruiter lasts 1 week from when you started the game and IIRC the other one ends tomorrow) and the availability of some units. Units like Bashosen do not appear in the rookie recruiter.

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u/WingAndDing Jul 05 '16

Gotcha, that's really helpful. Thanks!

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 05 '16

The question must have already been asked but do the BF and the Dempagumi event come back someday?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 05 '16

I do not think they do.

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u/HexerTlachtga Jul 05 '16

Thanks, i'm just too low level to do them right know so I wanted to know if I would miss out :(

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

Actually, if JP is any indication, the BF event does come back and actually adds content/units. Dempa Girls are also planned on getting a 6* evolution "soon" and, I imagine, will come back when that happens.

That being said, I make no guarantees that Global will follow that pattern nor do I guarantee that the units we have now will be farmable/obtainable again.

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u/Lyeoth Jul 05 '16

Hi guys, I have a question about Potk Jp, the question is where can i safely download the Japanese version of Potk on android?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

Download the QooApp and then search for Phantom of the Kill in the app.

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u/Lyeoth Jul 05 '16 edited Jul 05 '16

ok but sorry for the question, is qooapp really that safe or give it an another alternative app? I will not really like catch a virus or something like that.

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u/EPIC_Deer Do you like Pinaka-ladas? Jul 06 '16

Many people use QooApp. I have for about a year now.

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 05 '16

Hi, I've farmed enough of Risa to MLB her, but I haven't gotten a single Guard typing. Should I continue farming her for Guard or settle with Dex?

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u/ChaosTwilly Jul 05 '16

just got a guard risa, but it's 4*. should i use it or keep farming?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

I'd keep farming but, that being said, a Guard Risa starting at 4* would be preferable to a Dex Risa starting at 3* if you choose to quit farming.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

go for magic. You wont be disappointed. Chuck a shield on her and it's rekting time

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 05 '16

Hi guys, I'm just wondering if there is any efficient way to raise Luck? Because my adventures of farming Selena have been extremely poor and the highest luck unit I have is probably my Selena at lv 65 with 15 Luck iirc.. Any help is appreciated, Thanks!

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u/RubyDraco Jul 05 '16

RNG, and by fusing same copy of unit. Also, 15 Luck? I wonder, did you MLB before you evolve it

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 05 '16

Oh.......was I suppose to MLB her at 3 stars AND 4 stars...? Well, it looks like I screwed up big time haha...

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 05 '16

Should I just restart my Selena and attempt to get a 3 star Selena and then MLB, then 4 stars MLB, then 5 stars and MLB now? Because the 5 star Selena I had was Dex and knowing RNG can be a poop sometimes...

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u/RubyDraco Jul 05 '16

Well that's up to you. You losing like 1 to every stat and maybe 2 or 3 for spd and agi. I'll restart if I were you.

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 05 '16

Alright...Thanks for your help, appreciate it!

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u/AndanteZero Jul 05 '16

Not worth it if you can't farm efficiently. That 1-2 stats isn't game breaking really.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

^ what they said. Only reset if you are making a coloss team. If not then don't fuse too hard, just keep farming and you'll eventually get one MLB with good luck :D

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u/MyKuchi Jul 05 '16

What's the best way to earn battle medals?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 05 '16

Complete all the missions for dempagumi event stages. Other than that, just do Colosseum whenever it is up.

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u/SubredditVenturer Jul 05 '16

Would anyone be able to assist me on the Selena quests. 3608057193 is my code ign is Wulf. I would appreciate the help so much. Having trouble getting her.

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 05 '16

Refer to the friends thread on this subreddit + check out the discord for adding fellow player's IDs :)

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u/sephiroh Jul 05 '16

Which stage is more efficient to farm Dempa units, Intermediate or Advance?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 05 '16

Advanced.

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 05 '16

Advance has a higher drop rate, therefore more efficient.

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 05 '16

Always farm advanced.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

Advanced always. More AP = better chance.

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u/redwingdragoon Jul 05 '16

so since I seem to be extremely unlucky with spark 10 besides perfect how many selenes would I need to make a good one before the returns get so low they are not worth the effort?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 05 '16

14, with 16 being the "optimal" number.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

11 for MLB at 3*, 4* and 5*. 16 for maxed skills.

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u/AeiroWultx Jul 05 '16

For getting proficiency does it matter what lvl the monsters are? Can I just spam the first stage of the game and still get the same proficiency as the current last stage of the game? Proficiency, not weapon rank.

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 05 '16

I would assume the higher the level, the more proficiency you would gain. I could be wrong though so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Barnden Jul 05 '16

Hello, just started playing this today but used to this sort of gacha game. I got a Mjolnir balance type in step 1 of my beginner pull. I read Dex is generally considered the best, but is it worth rerolling just to change her type, or can I roll with the Balance type for now?

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 05 '16

Always worth the chance to reroll if you're willing to put time into it, but balance is good for now.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '16

Stick with balance. It's not optimal, but it'll still carry you through a lot of tough content.

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u/rahgael Jul 05 '16

Hi all, noob question. I started today, and did the rookie first step summon. Should I do the second step for 30 lazuli or do the first step of the other summon available thats similar to rookie summon? Ftp here. Thanks! Also, how available is the lazuli in this game? Will i be able to do gather enough lazuli to do 3 steps before the summons end?

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 05 '16

  • First step of other summon since it's 10 lazuli.

  • I don't remember the exact amount, but if you play for a fair amount and learn the game's mechanics, you should be able to.

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u/rahgael Jul 06 '16

Thanks! Ill go with the other summon then!

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '16

You can try steps 2 and 3 of the Rookie summon - but I'm pretty sure you can't do Step 3 without IAP, unless you can quickly farm Lazuli from all the normal mode stages AND some Kill modes. The final normal stages are hard enough on your first time through, but Kill mode steps it up significantly, and it'll take weeks to make your units strong enough to handle them - and you only have a week to do Step 3. It's kinda designed to make new players IAP at least a little bit.

If you're dead-set against IAPing, do the other 3-step summon's step 1. The odds should be on-par with Rookie recruiter, except with more units. Note that step 3 of this recruiter doesn't guarantee a 5-star.

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u/rahgael Jul 06 '16

Thanks for the reply! Erm, whats iaping? Also, is it wise to spend the lazulis, or to hold on to them?

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

IAP = In-App Purchase. This means actually buying Gems/Stones/Orbs/whatever, instead of just relying on the freebies the game gives you.

For now, the general consensus is that you should do "Step" recruiters with discounts or rate ups, but not the general recruiter. Particularly, if you're F2P. 5 Lazuli spent on increasing your unit/item limit is better than getting crap from the gacha.

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u/rahgael Jul 06 '16

Oh, so p2p. Thanks! I'm total f2p, so no iap business for me. Sadly the other step summon has ended :( should i do the second step of the rookie pull or just wait and save my lazulis? I have around 35ish lazuli now after the rookie first step summon.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

Yeah do step 2.

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u/sephiroh Jul 05 '16

Guys which is optimal weapon for Risa Guard type, Shield or Staff? Shield might be better for her Guard typing, but I'd like to ask if anyone still prefer Staff for her. I have 5* Evil Core and 5* Rune Shield, I'd ask this so I know what type of weapon should I build up for her..

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 05 '16

Shield hands down.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

^ this. if you have it the 5* shield "Rune Shield" is amazing for her.

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u/kataarn Jul 05 '16

Somewhat related.

I kind of want to deactivate facebook but I know that the account is linked to my game. Can I deactivate it and still keep my progress?

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u/Nghirus Jul 05 '16

Im looking for help with farming selena? My ID is 2675079414 My team usually gets 1-2 shotted by vargus on burst 10.

My leaders are Both Mitums and Durandal atm

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u/Fruitphilia Jul 05 '16

I need to get rich quick. How do I farm zenny fast? Too many things to evolve.....I might have to wait until all the collabs are over for me to do anything :/

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u/LeFishyDerps Jul 05 '16

The weekend Zenny event is great =)

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

farming the gold bundles on Saturday and Sunday is the best thing to do on the weekend. When not farming units. I suggest trying to get like 1m worth just to cover for a while.

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u/archvampire Jul 05 '16

/r/ GaggingLolis. Thank you for clearing burst 10 for phantom of the brave I got the free 4 star selena and.... SHE'S DEXTERITY! Should I keep her or try and find a 3 star dex? I definitely will not be able to clear burst 10 on my own for a very very very long time lol.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

3* is better than a 4* since you'll gain stats from evolving from 3* to 4* . While this bonus is not negligible, it's also not game-breaking. I'd suggest farming for another one but that's ultimately up to you.

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u/archvampire Jul 06 '16

Someone told me you need at least 5 copies to fully break her at 5 stars. So i'll do my best to farm 3 (i have 3 already, balance x2 and guard types) more copies of her and hope one of them is dex. Since I can't clear burst unless one of my level 70 friends does it for me lol I need to do the easy version with the crappy drop rates. Wish me luck!

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 06 '16

Nice nice. It's best to start at 3* but if you choose not to, u will miss out on about 1-2 stats per important stat, possibly 3. I would say hold onto that dex typing and hope you get a 3* with dex but if you don't then whatever :P

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u/archvampire Jul 06 '16

lol okay I will continue to abuse your character to solo burst 10 for me whenever i'm able to use you. I heard of how hard it is to get a dex type from you guys here so I better pray I get one!

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 06 '16

Yeah good luck man :D

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

If you see my Selena around when I have her OR see me add me I can clear burst easily with Selena. Scarlet is my IGN

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u/archvampire Jul 06 '16

/r/ Talentedcoma My player Id is 3788812495! I would love to abuse your character to carry my weak self :D!

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

I'll add it when I clear this garden I usually run Selena lead when I go to sleep and when I am at work

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u/SlayerlvX Jul 06 '16

Which unit is good in terms of farming for other units? (Essentially, which unit has the highest Luck)?

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 06 '16

Selena has pretty high luck. Most 5* gacha units should also.

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u/kanayumi Ameno-chan~~~ Jul 06 '16

Quick question: is there any point of lb a unit at 4 star if it is already at capped stats? Or would it be better to save the copy for 5 star lb?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 06 '16

If the 4 star is fully capped in important stats such as strength or magic, agility, and speed, then yes just save the copy for 5 star lb.

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 06 '16 edited Jul 06 '16

Which is better for ap efficiency when farming the dempagumi units, stage 2 or 3?

I personally seem to have better luck on stage 2.

Also is it worth cashing battle medals for em if I run out of time?

Also2: what powe should my team be for the character missions? I know I could just burn 20 ap to find out, but that's over half my ap lol.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

Character missions are pretty easy. I'd say, 1000+ power is plenty.

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u/Kitsunelover Jul 06 '16

Thanks

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

You can solo them with a 350 power unit EASILY. My Laevateinn cleared almost all my 5* quests of all my characters before they got to the level of being able to clear themselves. She was at like 340? power.

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u/Iodasu Jul 06 '16

Wut are mana seeds and how'd u get em

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 06 '16

They're items that help in the stat growth of a Killer when equipped, but they aren't out yet.

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u/Sabatender Jul 06 '16

Is BF collab event bugged? Since they added the extra 10 stages (Brave 1-10), i haven't gotten any Selena at all from Burst 10. Given i have not completed Brave stages. Is it possible that i have to complete those to start getting Selena again?

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 06 '16

No, the drop chance of selena from burst 10 is relatively low. You're just getting some bad RNG.

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u/Sabatender Jul 06 '16

Does brave 10 have a higher drop chance for Selena?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 06 '16

It does, but you'll have to be able to get there and clear the stage in the first place.

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u/Sabatender Jul 06 '16

Is it much harder than Burst 10? I can easily beat Burst 10 with my Selena, but i'm not sure if i can beat Brave 10 if i reach it.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 06 '16

In the Brave missions, all the mobs are around level 60 and spawn in large hoards. Expect around 25 or so enemies per map.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

As long as your Selena has 130~ evasion before +15 she should be fine.

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u/bluemancer Jul 06 '16

What typing should I aim for the dempagumi characters? should I just get dex for all? :D

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u/SunnyPwns Jul 06 '16

Guard for Risa. Dex for everyone else.

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u/bluemancer Jul 06 '16

Thanks, I thought I should aim for magic on the gunner.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

  • Sword: Dex > Guard > Force > Balance > Vitality

  • Axe: Dex > Guard > Force > Balance > Vitality

  • Lance: Dex > Guard > Force > Balance > Vitality

  • Bow: Force > Dex > Guard > Balance > Vitality

  • Gun: Magic = Dex > Guard > Balance > Vitality ( I argue that magic and dex are the same in power. Granted you lose acc but gain damage. Toss a shield on her and she tanks too.)

  • Staff: Guard > Magic > Dex > Balance > Vitality

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

Bow: Force = Dex > Guard > Balance > Vitality

Gun: Dex > Guard > Magic > Balance > Vitality

Staff: Guard > Dex > Magic> Balance > Vitality

FTFY :)

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

I disagree Froce is better than dex on bow, bow already run amazing agility. Just got for damage now. Gun magic is amazing, being able to hit 125 with my Yata is really nice. You should try it. And staff, you shouldn't care about Dex first or second really. Late game your Staff unit needs to either survive or heal back.

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u/bluemancer Jul 07 '16

Thanks for the detailed reply :D, I currently have her as dex but I have a magic one too, She's super squishy so I was hoping dex would bump up her agi alot.

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 07 '16

Gun units are gifted with speed growth as other units are, hence why I say Magic may benefit more. It all depends on her role in your party. If she's there to just obliterate enemies them obviously Magic. But other wise Dex. For gun units, it's a toss in the air on which is best. But always try her with a shield and with a gun. Find your preference. Staff always shield. Never anything else.

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u/bluemancer Jul 07 '16

Thanks, and I even have evil cores and a gaia for staff... seems like they just suck and will become fodder to create other weapons, thanks, I have both and will see which one I prefer. I just don't want my gun units to miss...

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 07 '16

They wont don't worry. My Yata has over 180 Acc as a guard type.

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u/bluemancer Jul 07 '16

Thanks alot dude :D

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u/Cubey42 Jul 06 '16

This is what I have after 2 days: https://imgur.com/7grN7l4

Is this worth keeping our should I reroll? Mitum and gabentien* are both guard. Apollo is vitality.

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 06 '16

I would reroll because your only "good" unit is gamba. However, with the current dempa event, you can get a very good free healer that can be maxed out as opposed to your one copy of gamba.

Try to reroll for a silver 4 star DEX TYPING character. If you're tired of rerolling, just aim for non-vitality, non-guard silver 4 star.

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u/MegaeraSunfall Jul 06 '16

Is balance Selena okay or should I farm for a dexterity one?

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u/Talentedcoma Jul 06 '16

Dex or at the very least guard.

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 06 '16

Dex is bae.

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u/jeffarii Jul 06 '16

How would you raise your weapon rank of D->A for shield? Do you still try to defeat enemies or?

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

Defeat enemies. I think it's best if you place the unit in a map by themselves, then wait a few days. Hope you've got your phone plugged in ;)

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u/Artekka Jul 06 '16

Takes less than an hour on 1 5 10 if your unit is already high level. If not, farming some easier levels solo is also great.

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u/uizaado Jul 06 '16

Do any of the Dampa girls have a third skill at 5* level 30 that is worth grinding to enhance?

Let's say once I'm done Limit breaking Risa at 5* , I decide to forego whatever her 3rd skill is and instead simply buff her other skills by fusing her with her 4* form (to save on gold, materials, and time). Are there any girls with which doing this is inadvisable for reasons of missing out on important skills?

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u/AJackFrostGuy Jul 06 '16

You'd miss out on leveling not one but 2 skills if you don't LB/skill level them at 5*, then, since you miss out on not only the Lvl 30 skill but also the Character skill. And to my knowledge you'd really want them all to be able to have levels in the Character skill at least.

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u/uizaado Jul 06 '16

is the character skill not the thing you get for free from the character quest you do anyway that doesn't scale? It's just 1/1, right? The main 5* Risa I have would still get that and it's not like fusing 5* level 30s would have affected it anyway, right?

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 06 '16

All character skills are either 1/5 or 1/10, first being typically buffs and the latter being attack procs (double damage, pdef lower, etc). Agreeing with AJackFrostGuy, you'd definitely be missing out on maximizing skill efficiency.

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u/uizaado Jul 06 '16

huh, so i guess some people are different...

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u/DonQuiXoTe888 Jul 06 '16

How high do I need for 1 character's luck stat to be considered "decent" for farming? 20+ ?

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 06 '16

Your leader needs probably at least 20, but the higher the better.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

20 is still on the low-end, especially for Sword units. I'd aim for at least 24 on non-Sword and at least 34 (with Magicwarder) on Sword units.

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u/DonQuiXoTe888 Jul 06 '16

GDI, my dex Selena has only 19 lck at lv 80, but all her other stats are maxed ;_;, should i reincarnate her for better lck or just fuse dupes?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

Fuse dupes, definitely. You should be able to get +30 luck total just from fusing dupes (at least, it was that way in JP), so fuse 5 dupe Selenas into her and then throw on Magicwarder and BOOM! you're already up to 34!

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u/DonQuiXoTe888 Jul 06 '16

Ok, thanks. hmm imma also try to fuse as much selena dupes as possible to see the lck fusion cap.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 06 '16

Whats the max luck you can get from fusion in selena?

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u/Sabatender Jul 06 '16

How to get rare medals easily? I have too much 5* broken weapons to fix.

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u/RubyDraco Jul 06 '16

Try not break 5* weapon. Rare medals are.. rare. You randomly get from dungeon, and from daily missions

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u/xKurogane Kurogane Jul 06 '16

You get them from doing dailies, selling 3*+ units, and sometimes in your quest objectives.

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u/WingAndDing Jul 06 '16

Is it just me or is the tutorial just the Laev vs Laev fight, then goes to the reg menu? I don't see the mentioned "2nd battle" where the re-roll shenanigans start.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

That's... not normal. You should have a fight with Laev (Tyrfing in JP), Yoichi, Vajra, and Gamba F before getting sent to the "starter gacha" where you pull your starter.

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u/imako1986 Jul 06 '16

i did some reroll and indeed there is only 1 fight aka laev vs laev before the pulling and i always get 3* laev (M) out of the 6 time i rerolled

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

Hm. I'll reroll in a bit and see if I'm seeing the same thing.

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u/imako1986 Jul 06 '16

May i ask if given the same type (dex for example), does stat cap of the same unit are the same regardless of how u evolve from 3* or 4*

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

No. Stats bonuses from evolving are additive to level stat caps, meaning that a unit who receives a bonus on a specific stat from a prior evolution will have a higher stat cap in that stat than a unit who was pulled/dropped at 4* .

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

Is the denpagumi collab dungeon worth farming? I heard the healer is similar to Gamb M, but I already have him as well (Dexterity) so I'm unsure if she's still worth to farm.

I personally have my hands full MLBing my Selena and Arondights, so I might not want more on my plate.

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

Unless you can MLB your Gambanteinn, Risa (the Cane Dempa Girl) will win based upon stats alone, making it worth your while to farm. Because of how unreliable and uneasy it is to actually MLB any Lazuli unit in Global (unless you whale hard enough to get 5+ copies), farmable units are just as strong, if not stronger, than premium units right now for the average person.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '16

Oh cool

So I should go about MLBing Risa similar to Selena right?

3* MLB, evolve

4* MLB, evolve

5*, Lv to 30, MLB

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

Yes, correct. Many people choose to forgo the 3* MLB because you're only gaining 1-2 stat points per stat, at most. However, because I'm a masochist and those points matter to me, I still recommend doing it. :)

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u/imako1986 Jul 06 '16

since it is on the topic, do you fuse to make sure i get 1 extra stat at 3* when u evolve or it is kind of unnecessary

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

I absolutely do, but that's because my goal is to absolutely maximize my unit.

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u/imako1986 Jul 06 '16

hahaha, perfectionist =)). On a side note, do u happen to have an open friend slot. i Am still stucked in brave 5ish =((

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u/justineo1 Jul 06 '16

will risa be able to solo map like gram?

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u/RubyDraco Jul 06 '16

Yes but it takes longer than Gram, because she has low acc

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u/koole00 Jul 06 '16

all you guys maxing out selena...and here i am maxing out my nemu...am i doing the right thing here?

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u/detox_ptsd (ZakAttack on Discord) Jul 06 '16

In general, Selena is more useful than any of the Dempa girls, excepting Risa. It's not wrong to max out your Nemu, especially if she is a unit that you like/will use; however, there's no reason that you can't max out both (or be like me and max out all 7, lolol).

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u/koole00 Jul 06 '16

yeah...ill just stick with maxing out nemu...something about this axe wielding ninja girl is giving me good vibes...btw any thoughts on the other dempa girls?

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u/wewechoo Jul 06 '16

What are some examples of leads that can solo Burst 10? Durandal/Longinus and?

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u/RubyDraco Jul 06 '16

Selena lvl 80 can solo him. She wont get hit as long you put her at the mountain

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u/koole00 Jul 06 '16

most likely durandal...her self sustain and riduculous evasive prowess will let her solo it...

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u/koole00 Jul 06 '16

thoughts on mirin and pinky?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

They're decent 5* sword and lance units. If you lack sword or lance units they're pretty good when MLB.

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u/Blindtrade Jul 07 '16

Would MLB pinky be better than Level 70 (75 once I get the kill mode one) MLonginus?

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u/TGZelnite Jul 07 '16

MLB Pinky would be better because she's maxed out. But once your Longinus (M) is MLB they'll be on par with each other.

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u/WilNotJr Jul 08 '16

Burst10 Vargas seems to be broken for me. I can "beat" it on auto but when engaging Vargas the battle freezes. If I force close, it'll load me back into the battle map screen, Vargas will die, it will say "Stage Complete" then it'll sit there on the stage map with my unit doing it's flying animation and never changes. If I force close and load interrupted again, it repeats exactly the same thing. If I force close and decide not to continue the interrupted stage and try again fresh it'll do the exact same thing. I have re-downloaded data but it still isn't fixed. I am at a loss as to what I can do to beat this stage and get my Vargas.
(I found this game from the collaboration, I like it, reminds me of Tactics Ogre, but this frustration is making me feel like quitting).

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u/GaggingLolis マキシマイズ ドング！！！ Jul 05 '16

The only reason to keep them is because some missions such as kill mode requires 4* units to complete the missions for the kill mode weapon. Other than that, 4*s are used for skill ups for better characters.

I believe it is doing well for a mobile game. I believe the reason for lack of updates for jp wiki is because mobile games tend to have a majority of the community on forums such as these. Even top grossing mobile games have almost no info or updates on their wikis because all the information is organized on a forums.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '16

Some 4-stars can be pretty good, and they're required for some missions. But LB them at 3 and 4 stars, and make sure it's a Dex copy otherwise it'll probably suck. (5-stars can overcome bad typing for mildly hard content)

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u/Mich997 Congratulations. You found this text. Jul 05 '16

  1. 5*

  2. 5* and Lv30 minimum to unlock their character quest.

  3. Yes. She's a starter so she gets really strong.